2009/2/11 Someoneelse :
> One thing that might be useful would be some sort of "My OSM" or a
> "saved play mode" feature* -
Now, that would be an interesting idea - being able to access all
your edits and the history of these in one place.
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> ... But, are there any
> elements in their user interface that are nice to have (if they work
> right)?
I didn't get that far, to be honest.
If it helps, the things that I found confusing about Potlatch 6 months
or so ago were the same things that have been discussed here before -
"where's th
> The concept of an editor is already too complex for most people.
> This guy searches for command buttons corresponding to it's
> first desire: "add a road", or "add a cycleway", or "change road",
Then let them add road (highway=road) and then let the "geeks" figure
out if it is secondary, resi
Someoneelse writes:
> Maybe something more akin to "openstreetbugs plus a simple guided way to
> add one feature at a time" should be integrated into OSM, but I wouldn't
> use GMM as an example except of what not to do!
We certainly should not try to emulate their bugs. But, are there any
ele
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Someoneelse wrote:
> Maybe something more akin to "openstreetbugs plus a simple guided way to
> add one feature at a time" should be integrated into OSM, but I wouldn't
> use GMM as an example except of what not to do!
>
Maybe it's because I read the initial blog
I had a look at Google Mapmaker as well (I'd not used it before either).
Frankly, it seems a bit pants:
When trying to use it it asked me to "Please zoom in to browse features
in the current map view" but on the same screen said "We are sorry, but
we don't have maps at this zoom level for thi
I had never played with it, so I gave it a quick try, and it's
probably a bit easier to use than potlatch. Here's what they say in
their help page:
http://sites.google.com/site/mapmakeruserhelp/making-maps
But I think that the way it works, while good for beginners, is
probably slow and fru
Claudius Henrichs writes:
> Am 11.02.2009 13:18, Gert Gremmen:
>> Kenneth:
>>> does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'?
>> Do you know any mapping application accessible for everyone
>> having internet ???
>
> *cough* http://www.google.com/mapmaker *cough*
And the thing is that Map
There was some discussion of this at the hack weekend see:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2nd_International_OSM_Hack_Weekend
and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/APIzza_0.6
If I remember right the integration of an OSB interface would come
after 0.6 was complete. So the earliest that we ca
I agree with Gert on the fact that 'the concept is good for geeks' but
it IS time to create a user interface for the rest of the world. I
have held a few mapping parties, trying to get more hikers, cyclists,
retired folk who love maps, involved with OSM but with the barrier
that OSM isn't u
I thought that last summer after SOTM, there was some desire to build
a system similar to OSB but integrated to the main site and
opensource. There was even a talk about having a hack weekend (or
day?) in London but unfortunately I can't find any trace of it.
It probably disappeared due to the pres
Am 11.02.2009 13:18, Gert Gremmen:
> Kenneth:
>> does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'?
> Do you know any mapping application accessible for everyone
> having internet ???
*cough* http://www.google.com/mapmaker *cough*
btw. They have expanded the list of supported countries to 160
On Feb 11, 2009, at 6:37 AM, Gert Gremmen wrote:
> I think he is representative for a lot newbies
Probably. Been to Wikimapia.org lately? They now have shapes on
their POI database. The method for drawing shapes is VERY simple.
LIke this:
o Click "Add place"
o Move the corners o
On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> work? I cannot even begin to dream of how to code such a thing.
Here's how to dream of it: ask a newbie what they expect. Write down
the steps. Try to code them. If you can, you're done. If not, then
go back and ask the newbie for mo
On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:43 AM, David Earl wrote:
> Indeed, but his misunderstanding is even more fundamental than that.
> Where did he get the location of his road from?
Guessing, from where the other roads are? My thought about the OSM
philosophy towards editing is "incremental improvements, al
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Kærast wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:08:05 -0500
> Adam Schreiber wrote:
>
>
>> I agree, there should be some slight barrier to entry in which the
>> mapper learns about communitty standards for adding data, especially
>> dervied data. The reason Google's MyMap
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:08:05 -0500
Adam Schreiber wrote:
> I agree, there should be some slight barrier to entry in which the
> mapper learns about communitty standards for adding data, especially
> dervied data. The reason Google's MyMaps can allow just about
> anything is that it isn't added
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Richard Fairhurst
wrote:
> If future-Potlatch were
> to become _an_ editor available on the main site rather than _the_ editor,
> I'd be very happy.
>
> Of course, CloudMade might already be working on this - can anyone from CM
> confirm/otherwise? Would help the
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:43 AM, David Earl wrote:
> On 11/02/2009 12:05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>> On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:07:18 Gert Gremmen wrote:
>>> An "Add Road" option, maybe? Oooh no, nothing like that.
>>
>> does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'?
>
> Indeed,
nstreetmap.org]
Namens Kenneth Gonsalves
Verzonden: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:54 PM
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 18:10:32 Jonas Svensson wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > yes. OSM. And there i
For very simple editing, would it not be possible to use the vector
features in openlayers?
http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/vector-formats.html
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 February 2009 18:10:32 Jonas Svensson wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>
> Indeed, but his misunderstanding is even more fundamental than that.
Or just trolling. It wouldn't be the first time on a Register comments
page.
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On Wednesday 11 February 2009 18:10:32 Jonas Svensson wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> > yes. OSM. And there is a limit to the extent that we can dumb down
the
> > interface without compromising usefulness. How would 'add a road'
> > work? I cannot even begin to dream of ho
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> And there is a limit to the extent that we can dumb down the
> interface without compromising usefulness. How would 'add a
> road' work? I cannot even begin to dream of how to code such
> a thing.
Have a look at Google MapMaker. We don't have to dumb down; we can off
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> yes. OSM. And there is a limit to the extent that we can dumb down the
> interface without compromising usefulness. How would 'add a road'
> work? I cannot even begin to dream of how to code such a thing.
Just guessing:
That kind of user might be lo
On 11/02/2009 12:05, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:07:18 Gert Gremmen wrote:
>> An "Add Road" option, maybe? Oooh no, nothing like that.
>
> does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'?
Indeed, but his misunderstanding is even more fundamental than tha
Shaun McDonald wrote:
> I have created:
> http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1584 for RichardF.
:) Thanks.
Of course, the other thing we could do is rescue the wiki from trainwreck
territory.
cheers
Richard
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Gert Gremmen wrote:
> The current concept is good for geeks , like you and me,
> and people that are really interested. The geeks are on-board
> (> 1). Now it's time to create a user interface for the rest
> of the world.
Yes, I agree absolutely (wow, Gert and I agree on something :) ).
h
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:48:03 Gert Gremmen wrote:
> Kenneth:
> > does *any* mapping app have an option like 'add road'?
>
> Do you know any mapping application accessible for everyone
> having internet ???
yes. OSM. And there is a limit to the extent that we can dumb down the
interface w
un McDonald
Verzonden: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:01 PM
Aan: Talk Openstreetmap
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
On 11 Feb 2009, at 11:37, Gert Gremmen wrote:
> On of the comments:
>
>> I took a look, and blow me down, my road was missing. So I
>> registered, and trie
On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:07:18 Gert Gremmen wrote:
> >I took a look, and blow me down, my road was missing. So I
registered, and
> > tried to add it. I failed. A project that's all about the people adding
> > the >roads, and I couldn't for the life of me work out how to add a
road.
> > An
On 11 Feb 2009, at 11:37, Gert Gremmen wrote:
> On of the comments:
>
>> I took a look, and blow me down, my road was missing. So I
>> registered, and tried to add it. I failed. A project that's all
>> about the people adding the >roads, and I couldn't for the life of
>> me work out how to
11:20 AM
Aan: Ed Loach; D Tucny; Talk Openstreetmap
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
I am just waiting for David Earl or someone else to comment on the "firstness"
statement!
Cheers
STEVE
Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
Manager of e-Learning Academic Developmen
Behalf Of Ed Loach
Sent: 11 February 2009 10:00
To: 'D Tucny'; 'Talk Openstreetmap'
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
I saw this yesterday and wondered why it took El Reg so long to report
on this? The announcement made these mailing lists on 23rd December last
ye
>
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org]
> On Behalf Of D Tucny
> Sent: 11 February 2009 09:31
> To: Talk Openstreetmap
> Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
>
>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02
Openstreetmap
Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/10/brum_map/
Couple of nice links there, both to the map and the home page...
Comments in the comments section are largely at the same level of positiveness
and understanding as is largely normal on
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/10/brum_map/
Couple of nice links there, both to the map and the home page...
Comments in the comments section are largely at the same level of
positiveness and understanding as is largely normal on the reg these days
(read mostly negative)...
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