Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-28 Thread Gregory
On 26 August 2012 11:02, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/24 Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com: If you walk past a building that says Toy Factory but everyone knows it is a secret military base because of the armed guards. You map it as a toy factory. -1,

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/8/28 Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com: On 26 August 2012 11:02, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: -1, you might map the sign as toy factory (maybe I am misinterpreting what you said? I never met a building that said something ;-) ) but if _on the ground_ it is a

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/8/24 Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com: I agree with the rules: * Don't get shot * On the ground rule +1, I'd extend this to do not get arrested, do not get fined, do not break local law (where local is referring to the country from which the mapper is operating, not the country which

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-24 Thread Michael Krämer
2012/8/24 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de 1. Don't break local law - this may include mapping military installations But local law should not be valid if you are in another country. I'm not a lawyer but I'm guess it's not that simple. I think local law might apply even if you're

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-24 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com wrote: I think local law might apply even if you're somewhere else. Ergh, that's an interresting new concept. My friends tell me the same when they smoke joints : it's legal in Netherland ;-) I'm not a lawyer I confirm. Btw, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-24 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
: OSM Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com wrote: I think local law might apply even if you're somewhere else. Ergh, that's an interresting new concept. My friends tell me the same when they smoke

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-24 Thread Gregory
as a reason to unmap subjects ? Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:39 AM Aan: OSM Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Michael Krämer ohr

[OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
What is OSM's policy in mapping military installations... cetest ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: What is OSM’s policy in mapping military installations… I'm not aware of an OSMF policy on mapping military installations. I'm not aware of mapping guidelines that are specific to military installations. General mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Cartinus
Like for most things in OSM, there is no global policy for it. In some countries there might be a national consensus about whether to map them and in how much detail. In some other countries it might actually be lethal to try mapping them. As for the Netherlands where you and I live, I know of no

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:59 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: What is OSM’s policy in mapping military installations… Wait, when did OSM start having policies on what to map/not map? If this has started, I have some suggestions :) I would say the

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: What is OSM's policy in mapping military installations... I'm not aware of an OSMF policy on mapping military installations. I'm not aware

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:01 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: I found a completely erased military base in Israel, that is uncensored on Bing and Google, and two instances in OSM of it have subsequently been removed, the first one drawn by me (for 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
On 23-08-2012 21:34, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:01 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: I found a completely erased military base in Israel, that is uncensored on Bing and Google, and two instances in OSM [...] They seem to have been

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 08/23/2012 07:59 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: What is OSM's policy in mapping military installations... Is it visible publicly legally (either locally or through remote imagery) ? Is it legal for you to map it, according to the laws of the country where you are

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 23.08.2012 22:01, schrieb Jonas Häggqvist: He makes his thoughts quite clear in his diary: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Wikipod/diary I'm not sure whether Israelian right is valid e.g. in the UK... = I don't see any reason someone should not map things in a different country. If we

Re: [OSM-talk] Policy in mapping military installations

2012-08-23 Thread Jonas Häggqvist
On 24-08-2012 00:11, Michael Kugelmann wrote: 1. Don't break local law - this may include mapping military installations But local law should not be valid if you are in another country. Then it's not local :) -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk