Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-18 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Simon Ward wrote: > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:07:30AM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: >> >> There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of >> >> relevance to this thread. >> > just tested, very promising ! and works like a charm o

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-18 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:07:30AM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > >> There's a Debian port taking shape in branches/ports/debian which is of > >> relevance to this thread. > > > > /me suddenly gains an interest > > > > I'd already got an svn checkout but hadn't got as far as doing anything

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-18 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Andy Allan wrote: >> I'll just point out that I got the trunk version working fine on >> Ubuntu without modifications, so people shouldn't be afraid to try it >> out. There were two dependencies (dang, I should have written them >>

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 2:24 AM, Simon Ward wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:31AM +, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) > wrote: >> Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself >> via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and >> you'd like wr

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:37:31AM +, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: > Anonymous read-only access exists, so have fun :) Poke Till or myself > via the osm2go-users mailing list if you have some contributions and > you'd like write access. > > There's a Debian port taking shape in bra

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Andy Allan wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) > wrote: >> I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a >> corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and everything. >> >> >> People who'd like to test osm2g

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:03 AM, Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists) wrote: > I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a > corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and everything. > > > People who'd like to test osm2go out on the desktop (and, ahem, like to > build things from s

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists)
I feel really silly for having missed this thread earlier. It's a corker, with a real live BAN POTLATCH!!! and everything. People who'd like to test osm2go out on the desktop (and, ahem, like to build things from source, and are running a recent Debian-based system) might like to try out:

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists)
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > wrote: > > I forgot to ask, do you have a public repository for osm2go or do you > only make release tarballs? Ævar, hi -- Current development is focusing on the Maemo "garage" svn repository: https

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ed Loach wrote: > It is IE7 fully patched, and I'm guessing (as it doesn't always > do it) that it is user error (me). It is probably that when I > switch from one tab to the wiki tab and back that the way > looks like it is still selected but in reality the flash bit > doesn't have focus. Ri

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Ed Loach
Richard asked: > Ugh, that's horrid. What browser are you using? Other parts of > the window > shouldn't respond to keyboard events when an SWF (like > Potlatch) has focus. It is IE7 fully patched, and I'm guessing (as it doesn't always do it) that it is user error (me). It is probably that when

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, > Define trivial. I can just speak for myself and it took me some minutes to be able to do anything useful in josm. Potlatch on the other hand gave me very nice and intuitive first few minutes, but i went in trouble once i tried to map things. Don't get me wrong: I am really not saying "al

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Ed Loach wrote: >> I think Potlatch has the advantage that you can switch from >> map view to edit mode easily for the area you are viewing, >> but once you've done that I still need to have an extra tab >> open for the wiki page to ke

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ed Loach wrote: > I think Potlatch has the advantage that you can switch from > map view to edit mode easily for the area you are viewing, > but once you've done that I still need to have an extra tab > open for the wiki page to keyboard shortcuts Once people have stopped ing around with t

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ed Loach wrote: > I find it annoying that sometimes I press Enter to stop > editing a way, only for it to decide that I've clicked a link to > take me elsewhere (user page, usually, I think) and I have > to go back and repeat the last few edits. Ugh, that's horrid. What browser are you using? Ot

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Ed Loach
> JOSM imho isn't trivial for beginners. That may be where osm2go > can help > on the desktop. Define trivial. I think Potlatch has the advantage that you can switch from map view to edit mode easily for the area you are viewing, but once you've done that I still need to have an extra tab open f

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Till Harbaum wrote: > The big show stopper with potlatch was that everything > is stored in the database immediately, so you are always > afraid to damage things. Of course, patches are always welcome. :) The sole reason Potlatch doesn't have such an (optional) feature right now is that I haven

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, Von: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > * The toolbar items don't have any tooltips - I've attached a patch > that fixes this which you may or may not want to use as-is Great, thanks. I applied it and it'll be part of the next release > * When I select a way and try to add a node to a way I can't a

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Till Harbaum
Here you go: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osm2go Till - original Nachricht Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool? Gesendet: Di, 16. Dez 2008 Von: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason > wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, > I had already planned to try osm2go on my eee (4G), where I try to use > josm, but the screen resolution is problematic; a debian package would > make me go from "sooner or later" to "right now" :) Would you be able to compile osm2go for the eee and give it a trial? Till _

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, - original Nachricht > value. If you can manage to do both then do it, but I believe that if > you aim too much at large-screen users then you may get all sorts of > feature requests from that area which actually make the application > worse (or, at least, more clumsy) for the

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-16 Thread Till Harbaum
Hi, i am afraid i don't get the relationship of your question with osm2go. Do you want to achieve this using osm2go? Till - original Nachricht Betreff: Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool? Gesendet: Di, 16. Dez 2008 Von: Andre Schoonbee > Hi List > >

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andre Schoonbee wrote: > By using Merkaartor I could download the respective town data, but how do I > download a larger area for the national road. You can do that using OSMXAPI (see Wiki entry "Xapi"). > Secondly, what is the best or correct process for updating (deletion > existing and a

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Andre Schoonbee
Hi List I have a basic question: I have new data for some towns and also some national roads. I now need to update the respective areas. This would mean I need to delete the current roads and load the new data. By using Merkaartor I could download the respective town data, but how do I download

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? Editing on mobile device

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machin

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: I forgot to ask, do you have a public repository for osm2go or do you only make release tarballs? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Till Harbaum / Lists wrote: > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machin

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Montag 15 Dezember 2008 schrieb sylvain letuffe: > I suppose you didn't asked that if it was allready ready for linux distro, so > there might be an additionnal cost such as : > - package making > - compilation testing > - libraries dependencies > etc. You mean after writing 12.000 lines o

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread sylvain letuffe
> "Porting costs"? What's that supposed to be? In the case of osm2go : - developpers's time I suppose you didn't asked that if it was allready ready for linux distro, so there might be an additionnal cost such as : - package making - compilation testing - libraries dependencies etc. So yes, I

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, Am Montag 15 Dezember 2008 schrieb sylvain letuffe: > I'll be happy to give it a go, if the porting cost isn't too huge. "Porting costs"? What's that supposed to be? > JOSM is allready quite good, but in liberty, there is diversity... and one > editors and a half doesn't look enough to me JO

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread sylvain letuffe
> So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? I'll be happy to give it a go, if the porting cost isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, > So the question is: This has started as a mobile editor with focus on small > devices and ease of use. Do you think there's enough demand for yet another > desktop editor to also support binary distributions for desktop linux > machines? IMO it would fill the gap between JOSM and Potlatch.

[OSM-talk] osm2go as yet another desktop tool?

2008-12-15 Thread Till Harbaum / Lists
Hi, osm2go is evolving faster than i expected and with first volunteers joining development things progress even faster, We recently implemented support for JOSMs elemstyle.xml file allowing us to display everything very close to the josm style. However, things didn't stop there and we have start