Re: [OSM-talk] Streetview

El dom., 6 de ene. de 2019 a la(s) 21:03, Alert Bouterse (al...@bouterse.com) escribió: > > Dear Friends, > > I know that it is not allowed to use Google Maps to "copy" streetnames, but > my question is: is it allowed to use Google streetview to check streetnames > by checking the photo's for

Re: [OSM-talk] weird "excessive bounces" warnings from the list

El mar., 2 de oct. de 2018 a la(s) 00:23, Paul Johnson (ba...@ursamundi.org) escribió: > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:09 PM Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> On 01/10/2018 19:54, Richard wrote: >> >> > The messages go straight into a dedicated gmail inbox without any >> > filters. >> > As far as I know

Re: [OSM-talk] Please unsubscribe me from this talk

> On 5 Sep 2018, at 19:42, Stadia Arcadia wrote: > > Hi, can you please unsubscribe me from this OSM talk mails? > Go to https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk and unsubscribe yourself. The link is at the bottom of every message in the list. --

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-25 19:21 GMT-03:00 Tobias Knerr : > On 25.04.2018 15:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Unisex=yes is defined as a shortcut for male=yes + female=yes > > This may be a stupid question, but where are you all getting this > definition from? > > I assumed the key already

Re: [OSM-talk] Odp: Re: Nominatim - censorship at github pages

Your message did arrive to the list. Maybe you sent it twice and the moderator rejected one of them (without changing the default rejection message). -- Nicolás El 30 mar. 2018, a la(s) 10:55, cm-sani...@wp.pl escribió: > Funny thing. Same thread but on dev mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Unify Mapping and wiki accounts? -- WAS: Vote cheating?

El 18 mar. 2018, a la(s) 20:50, François Lacombe escribió: > > 2018-03-19 0:38 GMT+01:00 Michael Kugelmann : >>> Am 18.03.2018 um 20:45 schrieb Richard: >>> fundamental decission - maybe osm and osm-wiki accounts should be the same? >> This had

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

Curiously enough those same organizations and governments then run Java web apps on their servers. Java isn't a security risk, Java applets running inside a browser are the problem. And that's blocked by browsers nowadays. I don't understand why this is relevant to the original discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

El 17 feb. 2018, a la(s) 06:56, Oleksiy Muzalyev escribió: > This article is on the front page of the Slashdot today: > > Fri 16 February 2018 "Why OpenStreetMap is in Serious Trouble" > > https://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2018/02/16/osm-is-in-trouble/ > > > "The

Re: [OSM-talk] AI With Satellite Images for OpenStreetMap

El 10 feb. 2018, a la(s) 17:52, john whelan escribió: > My personal reaction is this is frightening. > > Already we have buildings mapped twice and unless the import is done very > very carefully I can see problems ahead. That's why we have an import policy. Most of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Advertising on OSM

2018-01-11 23:55 GMT-03:00 Jack Armstrong dan...@sprynet.com : > Any opinions on this type of advertising? I can't seem to find anything on > the OSM Wiki. > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5230186487 > > The listed webpage says nothing about this physical address. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Sudden influx of bad HOTosm edits in West Bank

2017-10-29 16:13 GMT-03:00 Blake Girardot HOT/OSM : > Greetings, > > I SomeoneElse mentioned this in our HOT IRC channel. > > I have already asked the project creator to take a look. > > But, are you sure they are bad edits? did you use the 2016 imagery > specified in

Re: [OSM-talk] Publishing bot code. GPL or AGPL?

2017-10-17 13:27 GMT-03:00 Safwat Halaby : > I understand that GPLv3 has a loophole in which someone could modify > your GPL-licensed code, and then run it on a server which offers some > service. Since a service is being sent over the wire, and not the > executable itself, then

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

> El 25 sept 2017, a las 10:54, Imre Samu escribió:. > > What about the other alternatives? > > for example: > - just adding ALL (official[1]) dual languages for only Z0-Z8 level, and > keeping the current design for Z9-Z19 > > so there will be (z0-z8) > - local +

Re: [OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

And now we're talking about years of work. The original post to this thread already said making multiple versions is technically hard and out of scope. > El 25 sept 2017, a las 07:39, James escribió: > > That's why you could have text rendered via JavaScript and not in

Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

2017-09-20 1:51 GMT-03:00 Paul Norman : > The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a > policy covering paid mapping. Thanks for this, I think it's an important topic. In Argentina we're dealing with an organization or program that is "teaching" school

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

I don't understand what people mean with 'verifying' objects. We're not trying to find factually-incorrect data. The data is legally tainted. It's questionable whether looking at the current names imported from GMaps, comparing to another source, seeing they match and marking them as "verified"

Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

Then it wouldn't be hard either to add the names again from a legal source after the redaction. > El 27 ago 2017, a las 13:04, James escribió: > > As Mr.Ramm said, there can be trap streets, which should be removed. > > When I inspected the data, it seems most of it is in

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 8:53 GMT-03:00 Matthijs Melissen : > This policy seems to protect against applications using OpenStreetMap > in the name without using OpenStreetMap data. I don't think that's a > serious problem, while the opposite 'problem' occurs quite often: > projects

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

Probably it's too late for OsmAnd and it has to be grandfathered by now. I suppose Richard's question is more "how you would formulate a policy that would have permitted osmosis and osmium but not OsmAnd, if said projects were to be created with the policy already in place". In other words, how

Re: [OSM-talk] "NRCS basic OSM training" - low quality changesets in Nepal

> El 22 jun 2017, a las 19:27, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> escribió: > >> On 23-Jun-17 02:45 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: >>> On Thursday 22 June 2017, Ben Discoe wrote: >>> >>> BTW, the likely reason I didn't see changeset comments is that my >>> active OSM account ("bdiscoe") is registered

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-05 6:59 GMT-03:00 Frederik Ramm : > Today, if you are looking for a job and you're being interviewed by a > potential employer, the potential employer could say: "I can see from > OpenStreetMap that you've been editing a lot during the day in your last > job. Did you

Re: [OSM-talk] Revisiting traffic control and traffic calming

2017-05-07 3:57 GMT-03:00 Paul Johnson : > I think it's time that we seriously reconsider how stop signs, yield signs > and traffic calming devices are handled in all but the most simple (all > approaches to the affected node apply) cases. This largely after having a >

Re: [OSM-talk] HDYC, login requirement and "privacy"

2017-05-04 17:21 GMT-03:00 Christoph Hormann : > On Thursday 04 May 2017, Michał Brzozowski wrote: >> Maybe this is due to some "moral panic" in Germany revolving around >> privacy, just like StreetView ban - except it's made clear that your >> edits are public and you agree to

Re: [OSM-talk] Responding to vandalism

2017-03-16 16:00 GMT-03:00 Mike N : > On 3/16/2017 2:04 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >> And in vandalism, I would also distinguish between teenage doodles >> ("penis! ha ha ha!"), and serious concerted efforts to harm OSM. > > > Then there's the serious and real ha ha ha >

Re: [OSM-talk] SHA-1 collision announced by Google

All hashes by their nature can have collisions. The news is there is a practical way to intentionally generate them. It's the first time this is done for SHA-1, at least publicly announced (it wouldn't surprise me if the NSA had secret techniques and computing power to do it already). > On Feb

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated wifi=* edits

2017-01-09 21:08 GMT-03:00 Andy Mabbett : > On 8 January 2017 at 14:04, Jakob Mühldorfer wrote: > >> this is a question about automated edits of the "wifi" key. >> The goal would be to have all these converted to "internet_access" keys. > > To

Re: [OSM-talk] Beware Pokemon users

> El 28 dic 2016, a las 02:34, Nick Hocking escribió: > > How about we ask the game maker to code in (and let slip in social media) > that lots of new pokemon stuff may appear on every OSM residential road, > outside a residence that has a street number (in OSM) equal

Re: [OSM-talk] Strange location reading

> El 28 sept 2016, a las 04:59, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> escribió: > >> On 28-Sep-16 04:44 PM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: >>> On 27.09.16 21:51, John Eldredge wrote: >>> This past weekend, I made a long road trip. At one point, while in a >>> highway rest stop, I checked Google Maps to see

Re: [OSM-talk] SearchAroundBot: a Telegram Bot for OSM

> On Aug 24, 2016, at 05:54, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > >> On 08/23/2016 06:04 PM, Federico wrote: >> I've recently developed a Telegram Bot >> (https://telegram.me/SearchAroundBot) to enable users to easily add POI >> (currently only drinking water and toilets

Re: [OSM-talk] SearchAroundBot: a Telegram Bot for OSM

SearchAroundBot is for editing, not searching. I don't think they have enough in common to merge. Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 23 ago 2016, a las 14:04, Alejandro S. escribió: > > Hi, > You can find also OSMbot [0] that let you find many different features, maybe >

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

You should try giving those arguments to the organizations that are stopping us from using the data, not to us :) -- Nicolás 2016-08-18 17:01 GMT-03:00 John F. Eldredge : > I know I am replying to a two-month-old message, but the idea of > restrictions on entering postal

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

Wouldn't that lead to "mapping for the geocoder"? I'm sure that would be frowned upon as much as "mapping for the renderer". -- Nicolás 2016-08-16 16:50 GMT-03:00 Hakuch : > Hey Sarah, do you have documentations that explain how nominatim > processes the queries? That could be

Re: [OSM-talk] Forum admin(s) wanted

2016-08-15 21:13 GMT-03:00 Daniel Koć : > If we have no current backup available, I think it would be good to have a > script harvesting all the entries even just via plain HTML, with publishing > date, username and user id, so we could recreate it more or less on the new > server.

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a free/open reviews community w/ OSM support

2016-08-08 17:52 GMT-03:00 Erik Moeller : > On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 2:56 AM, joost schouppe > wrote: >> Keeping OSM and an external database linked is no mean feat. Say you load a >> McDonalds POI to your database and someone reviews it. But then a

Re: [OSM-talk] Go Map!: Mobile mapping on iOS

2016-07-25 20:32 GMT-03:00 Matthijs Melissen : > Hi all, > > I always used to be quite sceptical about mobile mapping applications. > Due to the small screen size and lack of a mouse pointer, mobile > mapping seemed clumsy and error-prone. For me, collecting data in the >

Re: [OSM-talk] Viewing pre-redaction OSM tiles?

The 2007 tiles on mvexel's map come from http://schaal.dyndns.org/osm/ which doesn't seem to be working. -- Nicolás 2016-07-15 0:17 GMT-03:00 Marc Gemis : > Do you mean Martijn van Excel's "Now and Then" ? > https://mvexel.github.io/thenandnow/#10/52.2644/5.2899 > It does

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Klong Toey Slums

2016-07-14 7:58 GMT-03:00 Mishari Muqbil : > Hello, > > I just wanted to feedback from the community for our effort to map the slums > in Klong Toey, Bangkok. The size of the area is about 1km x 2 km around here > and I have captured a sequence on Mapillay here. There are

Re: [OSM-talk] Viewing pre-redaction OSM tiles?

2016-07-14 15:49 GMT-03:00 Michał Brzozowski : > Hi. > I would swear I saw a page doing exactly that (with a comparison slider). > The reason is I suspect that some website uses old cc-by-sa OSM data > (due to its nature, with their own updates) without attribution nor > with

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-12 23:08 GMT-03:00 tuxayo : > On 12/07/2016 09:53, Christoph Hormann wrote: >> I would suggest to look at things more in terms of consistency - OSM is >> all about local knowledge and mappers mapping their day-to-day >> environment. It is inconsistent with this aim to

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2016-07-11 12:30 GMT-03:00 Ian Dees : > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Blake Girardot wrote: >> >> On a slightly more serious note: >> >> There are other solutions to the issue of lack of addresses in large >> parts of the world. >> >> Google has put

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-21 10:28 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > 2016-06-21 14:18 GMT+02:00 Andrew Harvey : >> >> I assume I need to manually download these and put them in the right >> directory on my Android? > > > > on iOS you'll have to compile and

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-20 19:14 GMT-03:00 Frederik Ramm : > Hi, > > On 06/20/2016 11:49 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: >> The down side of course is that the Maps.me data isn't updated very >> frequently so I might be duplicating data which has been added after >> Maps.me last generated the data

Re: [OSM-talk] prostitutes in OSM

…What is? This is the osm-talk mailing list. Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 7 jun 2016, a las 07:26, Rod Bera escribió: > > This is HOT OSM ;) > >> On 07/06/16 12:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> On the Italian ML this account was mentioned sending out spam, please >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Burger King use of OSM without Attribution

Don't rush it. Give Mapbox time to handle it from their side. And I don't see how AWS is involved, the image is coming from api.tiles.mapbox.com... -- Nicolás 2016-05-31 17:16 GMT-03:00 Clifford Snow : > Mikel, > I wonder if they just crop the image for the website,

Re: [OSM-talk] Navmii notes

Duplication would be a problem even if the map was updated in real time. I have seen maps.me users adding POIs that already exist for a long time, but aren't rendered by the maps.me style. Or adding name= to a gas station when the info is already in brand=, which isn't rendered by either

Re: [OSM-talk] Gamification in Volunteered Geographic Information in regard with Contributors' Motivations

There are some more "trivial" gamifications that can already help with motivation, such as the user ranking shown in HOT tasks. -- Nicolás 2016-05-05 13:11 GMT-03:00 Ben Discoe : > I thought it was odd that the survey listed two osm "gamifications" I'd > never heard of, and

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Slack

> El 2 abr 2016, a las 13:48, Blake Girardot escribió: > > It is very easy to log, anyone can do it, there is no secret anything. If you > have a machine that is always on, like my desktop, you just log in and you > have the transcript/log of whatever goes on. There are

Re: [OSM-talk] Slack

2016-03-26 16:59 GMT-03:00 Steve Coast : > Ok so look, Slack took over the world. It may have taken over the internal-corporate-communication world maybe. Slack has a million active users, Telegram gets 350.000 new users every day. Telegram took over the world more than Slack

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

> El 22 mar 2016, a las 10:10, Frank Villaro-Dixon > escribió: > > Hi everybody, > > I launched a bot (FrankVD_bot) this week which didn't make everyone happy, as > it wasn't discussed with the community, which is quite normal. Here's then > the RFC for (let's call

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OAuth with JOSM

2016-03-13 17:04 GMT-03:00 Mark Bradley : > I am not familiar with OAuth. If I upload data using JOSM from different > computers but using the same OSM account, should I use the same access token > key and access token secret on both computers? You should use

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

> El 12 mar 2016, a las 04:18, Paul Johnson escribió: > >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Janko Mihelic >> wrote: >> pet, 11. ožu 2016. 21:00 Martin Koppenhoefer je >> napisao: >>> >>> what about the pavement/sidewalk,

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

> El 4 mar 2016, a las 10:37, Janko Mihelić escribió: > > I think existing mappers are not the biggest problem. If mapping starts being > paid, there may be an influx of new mappers who do it only for the money. > > They will, of course, map a lot because that's how you get

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

negative reactions. Nothing against the idea, > but it should be better thought out to avoid perverse incentives. > > A quick solution someone already suggested was handing out free Osmand+ > installs. > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 09:20:05 -0300 > Nicolás Alvarez <nicolas.alva...@

Re: [OSM-talk] OsmAnd financially rewarding mappers

> El 3 mar 2016, a las 08:17, Marc Gemis escribió: > > If I understand the discussion on [1] correctly OsmAnd will reward > mappers with bitcoins. The bitcoins seem to be paid via a formula > based on the number of changesets you upload. > > I think this is a bad idea,

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM 290

2016-02-11 17:43 GMT-03:00 Michał Brzozowski : > Can you tell me what's up with this "This entry is available only in > Spanish"? I think people won't care if it got delayed a day later or > so. Also weird it's Spanish if you have to aggregate multiple mostly > English sources

Re: [talk-latam] Anulacion de correo

> El 14 ene 2016, a las 17:20, josafat plascencia > escribió: > > Hola me podrian borrar de su lista de correos por fa > El link para desuscribirse está al final de cada correo que recibes de la lista:

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

> El 7 ene 2016, a las 07:47, Hans De Kryger > escribió: > > So i just came across an edit of a user near me that listed the source of his > edit as (Google Maps Street View) (1) This is obviously wrong. Google Street View is not an allowed data source. > I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there a OSM map viewer program to dynamically view OSM data?

2016-01-07 23:58 GMT-03:00 Wuzzy : > Hi! > > I was wondering if there is some standalone application (preferable for > PC) to view OSM data as a map, but dynamically and locally (not > from some random computer on the Internet) rendered. > > We already have a large number of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-04 20:14 GMT-03:00 John Doe : > I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with > abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't > search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on > mapnik. > Is prefix

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Server on Ubuntu 15.10

> On Jan 3, 2016, at 02:37, Skyler F wrote: > > Hi, I am a linux newbie and I really want to get a tile server working on my > Ubuntu computer. I have been trying for weeks but nothing is working. > > Trying from this link: >

Re: [OSM-talk] Status page down?

It works for me now. -- Nicolás 2015-12-08 23:16 GMT-03:00 Ben Discoe : > FWIW, it's now 2:15 AM UTC (past the time it usually updates) and > there's still no status page at > http://www.openstreetmap.org/stats/data_stats.html > Perhaps the bug is still there? > > On Tue, Dec

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

El 19 nov 2015, a las 06:54, Christian Pietzsch escribió: >> >> Worse, I see many HOT changesets that have source=Bing in the >> changeset comment instead of a separate tag. >> >> Although... Does iD allow setting changeset tags? > > The ID Editor doesn't seem

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 7:54 GMT-03:00 Mikel Maron : > ps For the Argentinian case, has anyone asked the local community there to > reach out? I'm sure they would be able to help them get on the right track. I am in the local community. It took us months to track down where this flood

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

> El 19 nov 2015, a las 07:16, Ben Abelshausen > escribió: > > These changesets are way more useful than most. > > You can go the tasking manager and see exactly what the goal of the mapping > activity was, who is the admin that created the task and who validates,

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-18 21:11 GMT-03:00 Frederik Ramm : > This is *not* useful. First of all, we're not Twitter; we don't evaluate > these hashtags. I don't know if there are some downstream services that > do, but if so, please switch to using a secondary tag (remember, > changesets, like

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

2015-11-15 2:06 GMT-03:00 Daniel Koć : > > W dniu 14.11.2015 19:44, tony wroblewski napisał(a): > >> I think people need a playpen where they can try out ideas and map >> before contributing to the main map (Maybe there already is, I don't >> know). I think it should also be a

Re: [OSM-talk] opening_hours for turn restriction

> El 10 nov 2015, a las 09:57, Badita Florin escribió: > > Hello, i have a question, how do you tag the opening hours for a turn > restriction that is activated only during a certain time of day or week. > Also, do you have an idea what software is using this

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-01 10:54 GMT-03:00 : > >> El 1/11/2015, a las 9:39, Max escribió: >> >>> On 2015년 11월 01일 20:51, Richard wrote: >>> not long ago (maybe even today?) pharmacies were not only selling goods but >>> also producing many kinds of

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

El martes, 8 de septiembre de 2015, Mateusz Konieczny escribió: > On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 13:16:17 +0100 > Lester Caine > wrote: > > > On 08/09/15 12:58, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > >> The historical tag can be used to indicate that the viaduct

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-07 13:36 GMT-03:00 Maarten Deen : > On 2015-09-07 17:31, Russ Nelson wrote: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/abandonedrails/permalink/1044885352211646/ > > > It's on facebook and I have to log in to see it. I don't have a facebook > account, so could someone post here

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-17 6:04 GMT-03:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: sent from a phone Am 17.08.2015 um 08:28 schrieb Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: OSM IDs are too volatile, and IIRC there were objections to putting foreign keys (like shop branch numbers) into OSM on the grounds

Re: [OSM-talk] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-07-31 19:42 GMT-03:00 Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org: Hi all, Partly inspired by Google making noise about saving lives by warning people about crossings (see for example http://www.transportation.gov/fastlane/fra-google-team-to-incorporate-rail-data-in-maps ) I decided to take that

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki does not work anymore (missing Recaptcha API key?)

2015-01-07 10:49 GMT-03:00 Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net: OSM wiki only shows an error message when trying to view a page. I always get You need to set $wgReCaptchaPrivateKey and $wgReCaptchaPublicKey in LocalSettings.php to use the reCAPTCHA plugin. You can sign up for a key here. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Streams / Videos from SOTM 2014

2014-12-24 0:44 GMT-03:00 Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com: Peter Barth osm-peda at won2.de writes: Hi, is anybody aware if there is a place with the full video stream or *all* videos. I saw (in another thread?!) this page on Vimeo¹. From time to time someone uploaded further

Re: [OSM-talk] Streams / Videos from SOTM 2014

Peter Barth osm-peda at won2.de writes: Hi, is anybody aware if there is a place with the full video stream or *all* videos. I saw (in another thread?!) this page on Vimeo¹. From time to time someone uploaded further videos but for a week or so nothing changed. And I'm pretty sure there

Re: [talk-latam] sotm latinoamerica 2015

2014, 12:04, Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com escribió: No, la idea es hacer SotM *Latinoamerica* 2016 en Bolivia. Lo propuso Oscar Sergio Miranda en la reunión que tuvimos en Buenos Aires. 2014-11-11 12:43 GMT-02:00 Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com: Creo que la idea es hacer el