Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
H BP has 2 locations listed for the same address, one is express one isn't, and I'm not sure which is correct, maybe BP has lost more service stations? :) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3360844 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openst

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread Liz
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: > H > > BP has 2 locations listed for the same address, one is express one > isn't, and I'm not sure which is correct, maybe BP has lost more > service stations? :) I joined two together in Grenfell same address same phone number same stuff for sale i t

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/13 Liz : > On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, John Smith wrote: >> H >> >> BP has 2 locations listed for the same address, one is express one >> isn't, and I'm not sure which is correct, maybe BP has lost more >> service stations? :) > > I joined two together in Grenfell > same address > same phone n

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: > H > > BP has 2 locations listed for the same address, one is express one > isn't, and I'm not sure which is correct, maybe BP has lost more > service stations? :) > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3360844 I notice that both are tagged with: fuel:o

Re: [talk-au] [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > One question, though, for "Australian shared path", shouldn't this be: > > highway=cycleway, bicycle=designated, foot=designated > > rather than > > highway=footway, foot=yes, bicycle=yes I've updated the wiki page to this. I think we need to

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/13 John Henderson : > John Smith wrote: >> H >> >> BP has 2 locations listed for the same address, one is express one >> isn't, and I'm not sure which is correct, maybe BP has lost more >> service stations? :) >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3360844 > > I notice that

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread Ross Scanlon
> > I notice that both are tagged with: > > > >        fuel:octane_91 = no > > > > implying that neither sell ordinary unleaded petrol.  That's the normal > > high-volume seller, or have you banned it in Qld? > fuel:e10 = yes Replaces 91 octane at lots of BP servos. At least they have 95, 98 an

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Henderson
Ross Scanlon wrote: > fuel:e10 = yes > > Replaces 91 octane at lots of BP servos. > > At least they have 95, 98 and lpg which suits me as the truck really does not > like e10. Interesting. Personally, I use e10 in my '97 Pulsar almost always, even though Nissan say not to. I've never had a

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. I guess the rendering could use some enhancement in that case. I know the cycle layer only renders ways differently that have cycleway, when perhaps they could have a rendering for non-car ways that have (or imply) bicycle=yes as well. Most printed maps for cyclists I have seen only different

Re: [talk-au] [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-13 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > > One question, though, for "Australian shared path", shouldn't this be: > > > > highway=cycleway, bicycle=designated, foot=designated > > > > rather than > > > > highway=footway, foot=yes, bicycle=ye

Re: [talk-au] [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-13 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: >> One question, though, for "Australian shared path", shouldn't this be: >> >> highway=cycleway, bicycle=designated, foot=designated >> >> rather than >> >> highway=footway, foot=yes, bic

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Liz wrote: > On Sat, 12 Dec 2009, Liz wrote: >> we're having another discussion about this same point concurrently on >> t...@openstreetmap.org >> and making a number of suggestions there >> care to join in? > bum steer > tagg...@openstreetmap.org And can I again

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 John Henderson : > Ross Scanlon wrote: > >> fuel:e10 = yes >> >> Replaces 91 octane at lots of BP servos. >> >> At least they have 95, 98 and lpg which suits me as the truck really does >> not like e10. > > Interesting.  Personally, I use e10 in my '97 Pulsar almost always, even > thoug

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > And can I again please direct you to: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Consolidation_footway_cycleway_path > > If you want to find a resolution to the footway/cycleway/path thing, > please contribute your thoughts there. My feeling is that

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett : > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: >> And can I again please direct you to: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Consolidation_footway_cycleway_path >> >> If you want to find a resolution to the footway/cycleway/path thing, >> please contribute your t

Re: [talk-au] [Tagging] Tagging highway=cycleway without explicit knowledge of the law?

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > I'm thinking that a cycleway is a place *designed* to ride bikes Yep. Regardless of whether it has signage. Look at this example: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=caroline+springs&sll=-37.770588,144.754894&sspn=0

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread Ross Scanlon
> > Interesting.  Personally, I use e10 in my '97 Pulsar almost always, even > > though Nissan say not to.  I've never had a problem with drivability or > > with the fuel or intake system. > > Most cars made after the mid-80s in the US had to be capable of > ethernol based fuels, I'm guessing that

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread Ross Scanlon
> Interesting. Personally, I use e10 in my '97 Pulsar almost always, even > though Nissan say not to. I've never had a problem with drivability or > with the fuel or intake system. > > On the contrary, e10 is actually about 93 or 94 octane, as the ethanol > raises the octane number of the 91 b

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread Chris Barham
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM, John Smith wrote: > The 2 BP's along the Bruce Highway north of Brisbane aren't located > properly either, it looks like they've simply used address to geo > lookups and when the addresses are specific they co-ords go wonky, > wonder if they want more accurate co-

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Chris Barham : > I've found one that is almost 20km out - and wondered whether this is > the worst one found so far?: > http://www.bp.com/iframe.do?categoryId=9012436&contentId=7017653 The one at Moree was plotted 20km out of Moree to the North, but the servo is on the south side of Mor

[talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-13 Thread Stephen Hope
I'm looking for some guidance on tagging for "Sports Clubs". I'm not sure if these are an Australian wide thing, or just a QLD invention. I'm talking about the buildings that are run by (or for), are named after, and support a sports club or organisation, but actually don't have any thing to do w

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Stephen Hope : > I'm looking for some guidance on tagging for "Sports Clubs".  I'm not > sure if these are an Australian wide thing, or just a QLD invention. > > I'm talking about the buildings that are run by (or for), are named > after, and support a sports club or organisation, but ac

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:40 AM, John Smith wrote: > > 2009/12/14 Steve Bennett : > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Roy Wallace wrote: > >> And can I again please direct you to: > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Consolidation_footway_cycleway_path > >> > >> If you want to find a resolut

Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
Nearmap imagery for the 21st of Nov. has a lot of patchy cloud cover, can anyone think of a possible way to add a date field to the slippymap plugin to switch between older imagery rather than just using the most up to date? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk

Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-12-13 Thread Ben Last
If you add an *nmd* parameter to the NearMap URLs with the date in MMDD format, you'll get the images for that date. To be exact, the date is a cutoff; you'll get the latest images with dates earlier than or equal to the date specified. Cheers Ben 2009/12/14 John Smith > Nearmap imagery for

Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Ben Last : > If you add an nmd parameter to the NearMap URLs with the date in MMDD > format, you'll get the images for that date.  To be exact, the date is a > cutoff; you'll get the latest images with dates earlier than or equal to the > date specified. I wasn't aware the parameter

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:40 AM, John Smith wrote: > This is where meta information stored in state/country boundaries > could be useful, although that in itself could be a slippery slope of > storing too much data in meta lookup tables essentially... Yeah. I don't think the slope is all that sl

Re: [talk-au] Australian Cycleways

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett : > Yeah. I don't think the slope is all that slippery. Lots of stuff is What I meant is, storing this type of information in meta data could end up being a dumping ground for a lot of things beyond simple differences between whatever is considered the most common. __

Re: [talk-au] NearMap PhotoMap imagery for OSM

2009-12-13 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, John Smith wrote: > > The problem I'm really trying to solve is with the slippymap plugin, > because it is compiled and the URL isn't easily setable/changeable by > a user, there is no options to tweak the URL in the plugin > interface/settings This isn't "easy",

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM, John Smith wrote: > I tagged one in NSW a while back, I just tagged it as > amenity=restaurant but that probably isn't the best thing to tag it > with. > > Might be worth tagging them as amenity=sport_club and then adding some > details to the wiki about it. I'd d

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett : > I'd double check that term. I haven't heard it used in this way. To > me, a "sports club" is something like the local footy club buildings, > the surf livesaving club, the bowls club... That is, focused very much > on the members playing sport, not playing pokies. That

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 5:31 PM, John Smith wrote: > That's what he's talking about, but most of those places have pokies, > but aren't exclusively pokie dens. >buildings that are run by (or for), are named >after, and support a sports club or organisation, but actually don't >have any thing to

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Chris Barham wrote: > I drove out there to check and be certain on the weekend so have > removed the FIXME tag. Wow, someone cares about their servos :) Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://

Re: [talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett : > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Chris Barham wrote: >> I drove out there to check and be certain on the weekend so have >> removed the FIXME tag. > > Wow, someone cares about their servos :) Why haven't you? :P ___ Talk-a

Re: [talk-au] Sports Clubs

2009-12-13 Thread John Smith
2009/12/14 Steve Bennett : > I'm still trying to see how this is very different from "amenity=pub" > with another "amenity=pokies" (or whatever), and "name=Smithtown > Crocodiles Sports Club". Would it render differently from a pub? That's the whole point, they aren't a pub and they should render