On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:32:42 +1100
Liz wrote:
> I believe its actually dumped into the town sewerage system which in
> the Murrumbidgee means it is all going to be recycled into drinking
> water for Adelaide after we've used it 10 more times.
And will probably improve the quality of the water he
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:41:10 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, John Smith wrote:
> > Does anyone have a suggestion on marking non-existent roads, so
> > people don't waste time trying to map them?
> when you get to his area, non-existent roads are often roads into
> properties, and belong o
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:44:05 +1000
Franc Carter wrote:
> Due to a recent carputer project, I know map with two gpses. Looking
> at the traces in josm
> they are slightly offset from each other (more than the couple of
> centimeters that separates
> there antennas).
>
> My inclination is to uploa
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:50:22 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > But until someone has the time to fix it, it will provide someone
> > who doesn't know the area well enough information to be in
> > approximately the right place (same as most la
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:59:48 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > Not sure what your point here is Liz apart from interesting
> > information?
> >
> > Although it does back up what I was saying about the ABS begin
> > incomplete not
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:14:46 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > > What about the 90% of Australia that isn't metro areas and these
> > > boundaries are all over the place and don't line up with towns,
> >
> > They still prov
John Smith wrote:
>> You can do this I guess it's a matter of rendering. I think
>> this
>> discussion has highlighted an underlying issue that is
>> beyond the
>> rendering issue however. The underlying issue is that you
>> don't consider
>> administratively equal a "suburb" and a "rural named
>
John Smith wrote:
>> By "represented" I meant in the OSM data. The underlying
>> data should be
>> consistent.
>
> To do this objectively we just need to stipulate the population then we can
> achieve the same result I'm after by suggesting subjective methods.
You can do this I guess it's a mat
John Smith wrote:
> --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith wrote:
>
>> Completely a matter of opinion, and again the same thing
>> could be said
>> about innumerable bits of data that don't fit into your
>> perception of
>> what needs to be on the map.
>
John Smith wrote:
> I'm not saying they're inaccurate, I'm saying they create noise in some areas
> rather than showing useful information.
Completely a matter of opinion, and again the same thing could be said
about innumerable bits of data that don't fit into your perception of
what needs to
John Smith wrote:
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith wrote:
>
>> In 95% of cases they're close enough, are you going to
>> throw out the baby with the bath water and dispose of the
>> cases where people have adjusted them to be correct? Even in
>>
John Smith wrote:
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Darrin Smith wrote:
>
>> Why remove suburb boundaries?
>
> Because they aren't suburb boundaries, they're ABS boundaries.
In 95% of cases they're close enough, are you going to throw out the
baby with the ba
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 16:14:28 + (GMT)
John Smith wrote:
> Also admin_level=10 no longer shows on maps.
Why remove suburb boundaries?
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On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:55:02 +1000
Matt White wrote:
> I was just wandering around the Phillip Island area of Oz seeing how
> things were shaping up, and noticed that the imported admin
> boundaries seemed to be a substrantially better example of the
> coastline when compared with the original P
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
John Smith wrote:
>
> --- On Mon, 29/6/09, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > That looks like the one that's automatically created at the
> > centre of
> > the administration boundary multipolygon (i.e. suburb
> > boundary)
>
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:31:44 -0700 (PDT)
John Smith wrote:
>
> I can't see what is creating the place marker for "Curra" in the
> centre of this map:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-26.06883&lon=152.59675&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF
>
> In fact I couldn't find a place marker at all so I crea
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:41:38 +1000
Rick Peterson wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Quick question about roundabouts. (junction=roundabout)
>
> Originally, I didn't name roundabout junctions, but when I validate
> my work in JOSM, it identifies them as 'Unnamed Ways' in the warnings
> section.
>
> I've tr
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:56:56 -0700 (PDT)
David Dean wrote:
>
> Of course, if the number of kilometres is always the same you could
> easily work out where the location is anyway by looking at the blank
> hole in all their traces, helpfully centred on their house.
If one was really trying to hun
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:30:43 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot wrote:
> > I don't have a problem with uploading gps traces to osm but
> > I can see no benifit if I'm just going to edit them in josm
> > anyway and given that they are all one second data that's a
> > lot of data to put on the osm servers w
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:22:42 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
> > Thoughts, hints and tips will be appreciated.
> Personally I'd concentrate on doing one or two on the journey up and
> one or two on the journey back.
> One large and one small?
I'd agree. It's not a ra
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot wrote:
>
> --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > Interestingly that page I linked lists the Exclusive
> > Economic Zone (the
> > 200nm case) as extending from the outside of the 12nm
> > limit, which
&g
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot wrote:
>
> --- On Sun, 14/6/09, Darrin Smith wrote:
>
> > The reason I chose to put in the (roughly estimated) 12nm
> > boundary was
> > that from the research I could find it's the *legal*
> >
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:05:12 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot wrote:
>
> I noticed a bunch of maritime boundaries at 12nm, however most
> countries have made a "land" grab and extended their maritime borders
> to 200nm.
>
> I suppose this is more of a general question since it would effect
> almost al
On Wed, 27 May 2009 02:49:56 -0700 (PDT)
Delta Foxtrot wrote:
>
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of any cheap GPS data loggers that I
> can lend out to people, I'm thinking postal delivery workers here,
> that in and off itself it won't be worth stealing, something without
> a screen.
>
> I'm su
On Tue, 26 May 2009 07:31:01 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Tue, 26 May 2009, Delta Foxtrot wrote:
> > My original question was in relation to concreate slab crossings
> > which technically aren't fords because they dry far more often than
> > wet, and they aren't raised at all so they're not bridges.
> >
On Mon, 25 May 2009 18:50:15 +1030
Graeme Wilson wrote:
> If you need something checked anywhere, ie street names etc, as long
> as it will only take a few minutes as I am passing through, then make
> a list and I will see what I can do.
On good thing to get since you mentioned the YP is the pat
On Mon, 25 May 2009 20:26:45 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Mon, 25 May 2009, Mark Pulley wrote:
> > Wikipedia also has
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_water_crossing - this is what I
> > have been thinking of as 'causeway'.
> >
> > Do we need a new setting highway=low_water_crossing ?
>
>
>
> for
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:40:04 +1000
Liz wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Liz wrote:
> > 1433 nodes
> > split it into 600+ and 700+, still couldn't upload the change.
> >
> > I wait on the bug report - someone has another problem with
> > relations and they may be related problems
>
> Merkaartor let
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:47:04 +1000
Ben Kelley wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I think I'm with Darren on all counts.
>
> I think the only thing I'd add is where local knowledge tells you
> that the ABS data aligns to some previously unmapped feature (e.g. a
> river) that cannot be made out on Landsat (no Yaho
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:10:32 +1000
Franc Carter wrote:
> I totally agee that it's a good idea to work this out, I've been
> silent on the matter because I'm far from clear
> as to what is a good approach.
>
> I'm currently wrestling with trying to get a handle on how we can tell
> whether the AB
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:38:40 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> [snip]
>
>
> > Futher poking around I've found the 'Unclassified SA' 'suburb',
> > containing over 100 segments scattered all over the state, I assume
> > most other states will have a similar object, what's the thoughts of
> > everyone o
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:29:52 +1030
Darrin Smith wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:46:44 +1100
> Franc Carter wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The upload has completed (much faster running from dev).
> >
> > There were a couple of problems:-]
> >
&
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:46:44 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The upload has completed (much faster running from dev).
>
> There were a couple of problems:-]
>
> * Gruyere and 'Wandin North - Bar' in Victoria, which I
> *believe* I have fixed
> * Beatrice and Ellinjaa in Queen
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:51:35 +1100
b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It's really nice to see suburb boundaries popping up around the
> place, it just makes the map look that little bit more professional.
Yeah it is isn't it, Franc has done some nice work.
> There seems to be some nam
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:17:57 +1100
Nick Hocking wrote:
> I'd hazard a guess that most urban suburbs will have their boundaries
> running down the centre of a street but a lot of rural ones will have
> them on one side of a road, river or train track. With roads in the
> country areas, it would ma
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:09:59 +1100
Nick Hocking wrote:
> 2) If a suburb follows a road or river should part of the boundary way
> be deleted and replaced with that part of the road or river.
And Franc Said:
> This is a good question - one other thing to throw in the mix is
> the relative accurac
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:33:09 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> Nice.
>
> Do you want me to try to exclude some suburbs so as to not overlay
> the areas you have
> already done ?
Nah, there's only about a dozen that I've got fully completed and
they're all close enough together I'll just review what's
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:50:20 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> I know very little about the rendering, but I would suspect not. each
> boundary is going to divide two suburbs
> and may of them are quite short - so I would expect that representing
> them on a generic map is quite
> difficult to do.
Ob
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:14:33 -0800 (PST)
Jeff Price wrote:
> G'day,
>
> Hoping you might be able to point me in the right direction for
> advise on some mapping I've done.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-26.90444&lon=152.94041&zoom=16
> Two questions
> 1) Is it correct to split ways for
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:05:32 +1030
Jack Burton wrote:
> Sorry - forgot to CC the below to the list:
>
> Forwarded Message
> From: Jack Burton
> To: BlueMM
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries - getting close
> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:04:16 +1030
>
> On Tue, 2009-02-1
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:08:16 + (UTC)
BlueMM wrote:
> This maybe because some suburb boundaries are along the edge of one
> side of the road, not down the centre (like the VIC/NSW border along
> the Murray, on the high water line on the Vic side). I didn't realise
> it even took into account s
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 22:09:15 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> Ok, it seems my conversion script is now producing sane results so
> it's time to work out what the final output should look like.
>
> The first question that I think we need to answer is, how do we
> represent the
> data in OSM, there app
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:21:11 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> I'll have a think about whether can I work out something clever to
> see how well postcode boundaries
> match suburb boundaries.
>
> I suspect I am not going to be able to process both the suburb and
> post code data together to get
> one
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:15:34 +1030
Darrin Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:44:50 +1100
> Franc Carter wrote:
>
> > After some nashing of teeth and swearing I have script that converts
> > the ABS data in to a set of non-overlapping ways with some minimal
> > inf
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:44:50 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> After some nashing of teeth and swearing I have script that converts
> the ABS data in to a set of non-overlapping ways with some minimal
> info on the ways.
>
> I'd like some volunteers who I can give some subset of the data to
> (name yo
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:12:31 +1030
Darrin Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:53:01 +1030
> Cameron wrote:
>
> > How much do suburbs change anyway? Perhaps any changes could simply
> > be introduced manually.
> > ~Cameron
>
> Yeah I did think that might be an
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:53:01 +1030
Cameron wrote:
> How much do suburbs change anyway? Perhaps any changes could simply be
> introduced manually.
> ~Cameron
Yeah I did think that might be an easier solution, I was addressing
automatic updates because jackb brought them up :) And as soon as we
mod
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:23:07 +1030
Jack Burton wrote:
> Consider two suburbs, A & B, whose boundary is currently defined by a
> river. Now let's say that by the time the next ABS update occurs, that
> boundary has changed, and a small part of what used to be suburb A has
> become part of suburb B
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:19:57 + (UTC)
BlueMM wrote:
> Apparently there was a big push for unification of suburb & postcode
> boundaries a few years back by the governmental spatial agencies. I
> believe it hasn't been completed, parts of NT didn't correspond.
Yeah I know it all lines up here i
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:18:53 +1030
Jack Burton wrote:
> But I'm still not a fan of relations for suburb boundaries - even more
> so, now that we know that the authoritative set for Australia (the ABS
> data) is organised as a set of polygons (one for each suburb), since
> we'll presumably want to
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:30:58 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> I have added an entry to the data catalogue at
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue#One-Time_Imports
>
> and the beginnings of page about the import at
>
Post codes and Electorals Boundaries map up nicely to a bound
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:29:39 +1030
Jack Burton wrote:
> >1. What way do we want to represent the data, e.g closed ways or
> > relations consisting of borders - something else ?
>
> Closed ways (areas) - as that's how ABS define them, so it will make
> merging updated ABS data into the OSM Au
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:52:43 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> From a 'philosophical point of view', I tend to agree that suburbs
> are made of
> a set of boundaries between adjacent areas. This was not how I did it
> in my first (very quick) attempt ;-(
An advantage of having to sort out the legal iss
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:26:13 +1100
Franc Carter wrote:
> There are two issues that I have come across with converting to osm:-
>
>1. What way do we want to represent the data, e.g closed ways or
> relations consisting
>of borders - something else ?
I'd personally prefer border relati
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:01:14 + (UTC)
BlueMM wrote:
> I don't see the point of "remove the dependence on yahoo", either we
> are allowed to use it or we are not. Maybe it's a data purity thing,
> but then I must be only half a zealot :P
I don't trust the decision in the case of Yahoo, the cur
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:29:08 -0800 (PST)
bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Early on in my OSM career, I changed a freeway that was from a GPS
> but the track wasn't accurate compared to nearby tracks/traces. So I
> deleted it and traced from Yahoo, with lots of nodes along bends to
> make them smo
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:36:43 +1000 (EST)
i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 09:21:02 +1000 (EST)
> > i...@4x4falcon.com wrote:
> >
> >> > Nick, My worry with the Old map + yahoo combo is that some
> >> > armchair mappers may over-ride existing surveyed data (I've
> >> > already seen
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 01:39:54 +1030
Cameron wrote:
> Nick,
>
> The problem you describe can be caused without the use of yahoo
> imagery or out of copyright maps. If someone surveyed a street in
> 2006 and it has since been made oneway, it will not be updated unless
> someone is keeping a close e
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:32:12 +1030
Cameron wrote:
> All,
>
> The directory is now available at
> http://www.osmaustralia.org/gregorysmaps.php Thanks to Matt White
> (Gaffa) for the hosting!
>
> It's a great resource for naming streets traced from Yahoo. When
> doing so, please tag your work as
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:27:53 +1030
Jack Burton wrote:
> In JOSM, it's fairly simple to see all stacked ways (using the middle
> mouse button, with control to hold/select) - then (as long as the ways
> have been tagged) it's very easy to pick the one you want to work
> with. Not sure whether it's
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:34:34 +1030
Jack Burton wrote:
[On the single area option]
> Personally I think that is still the best approach (the only downside
> I can see with it would be if a suburb was not defined by a closed
> area - although I'd imagine that would be quite rare). However,
> you'l
evels of 15 or higher.
Check around Salisbury in S.A for examples of their use, I have
examples of suburb boundaries, post code boundaries and council
boundaries in that area.
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On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:39:40 +1100
"Nick Hocking" wrote:
> "Which Editor are you using? "
>
> JOSM - ( For roads I only ever use JOSM).
>
> Currently version 1146 but before (when I had trouble splitting
> roads) it was version 654, from about 6 months ago.
> JOSM works so well that I rarely fin
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 22:59:36 +1100
"Nick Hocking" wrote:
> There was a large roundabout missing in Mt Barker ( Intersection of
> Mann Street and Adelaide Road).
>
> Previously I have been unable to fix this since there was a relation
> on Adelaide road which made it impossible to
> split the roa
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:48:10 +1100
"Nick Hocking" wrote:
> Thanks Darrin, that worked perfectly.
>
> Now can you tell ne how to convert that mini roundabout into a normal
> one without destroying both parks first.
Eep, good luck on that, I don't think there's anywhere near as simple a
way to do
On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:24:47 +1100
"Nick Hocking" wrote:
> "Splitting the way should not effect the park at all"
>
> Stephen,
>
> Every time I try to select the way, to split it, one of the parks get
> selected instead.
>
> I don't seem to be able to get to the road to add tthe two bridge end
Here's a pic of one of those near-mini's I spotted in Gascoyne Avenue,
Hillcrest, I think they to fulfill every criteria of Liz's defintion
except for the different signage (in the first pic you can see the
bottom of the standard sign there).
http://osm.beldin.org/misc/IMG_0121.jpg
http://osm.beld
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:08:54 +1100
Ian Sergeant wrote:
> + When you cross this kind of roundabout when cycling, or with a
> learner driver, you don't have to worry about the characteristics of
> the road you are crossing (since you never turn into the traffic of
> the cross road, you just cross t
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 00:22:05 -0800 (PST)
bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > So after realising this I can't actually stand in support of
> > junction=roundabout on a point (or some other similar proposal) as a
> > permanent fixture, but would fully support it as a 'temporary' tag
> > to indicate
his
case, I worry that your suspicions may be correct, or perhaps that the
person who drew it in based it upon personal experience from a long
time ago (dodgy source at best ;). I think a polite message suggesting
that you are concerned about the source of his data might not go astray
in this
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:54:24 +1100
Liz wrote:
> "Not again" they all groan
>
> this is today's version of my review
> you have to read to the end to get my opinion and conclusions
>
> http://billiau.net/~liz/osm/roundabouts.pdf
>
> i may get more info and edit it further so it is not going to
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:54:24 +1100
Liz wrote:
> "Not again" they all groan
>
> this is today's version of my review
> you have to read to the end to get my opinion and conclusions
>
> http://billiau.net/~liz/osm/roundabouts.pdf
>
> i may get more info and edit it further so it is not going to
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:31:02 -0800 (PST)
bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote:
> True about abstract linear vs 2D. I think of it as we draw the centre
> line of a lane (or lanes), and that lane will deviate around a
> roundabout, as opposed to a mini. Maybe the fact that there is a
> centre island is th
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:27:50 +1100
Matt White wrote:
> Anyway, I've been playing around in JOSM, and I've made some changes,
> and uploaded them, but it was giving me warnings or something about
> overlapped areas. I couldn't see anything I'd screwed up too badly,
> but was wondering if anyone
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:45:13 +1000
Thomas Schroeder wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running JOSM on a Pentium D machine with 2 cores [but only with
> 32-bit linux (Fedora 9)] and no problem so far.
> I would suggest to try the latest JVM / JDK.
>
> My Java is this:
> java -version
>
> java version "1.6.
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:31:34 +1100
Liz wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout#Mini_roundabouts
>
> "Mini-roundabouts can be a painted circle, a low dome, or often are
> small garden beds. Painted roundabouts and low domes can easily be
> driven over by most vehicles, which many motoris
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:10:32 +1100
Ian Sergeant wrote:
> As is everyone - but we can't forget that a linear road is always
> going to be a representation of a 2 dimension road surface, and
> currently that is what we have to work with in OSM. If you were
> drawing the full road width in OSM, the
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:53:44 +1100
Liz wrote:
>
>
> Starting again about *round*abouts
>
> The renderers accept two methods of drawing a *round*about.
>
> There is a quick and easy method ideal for where two simple ways
> cross. Somebody has decided that this is called a mini-roundabout,
> an
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:56:55 +1100
Matt White wrote:
> There are emergency boom gates across the EastLink and CityLink
> tunnel entrances (well, back aout 300m), used to stop traffic
> entering the tunnels in an emergency, or when there is an accident in
> the tunnel. I believe they wer put in af
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:04:52 +1100
Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > Actually you haven't. The pictures on that page are ALL roundabouts
> > not minis by the Wikipedia English definition (none of them can be
> > over-
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:58:25 +1100
Matt White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is probably a can of worms that needs opening - there are a
> number of AU specific things that I think most of us apply a
> "best-fit" approach to, that really need further discussion so we can
> come up with some lev
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:52:50 +1100
Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to second Ian's request for more information to be discussed.
> Darrin, could you please put up some photographs of the sort of
> roundabouts you are discussing. We may all agree that they are apples
> in the end.
I'll l
> However, on this occasion, I'm pretty sure I'm not your culprit, as I
> haven't made any changes to the map in several months. And I don't
> remember ever removing a "drawn" roundabout to replace it with a
> mini_roundabout. On this issue I agree with you - a drawn roundabout
> (assuming it's r
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:55:13 +1100
Ian Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've looked back through the logs, found the one discussion, noted
> > that it was basically a 4-3 split of contributors and since every
> > discussion on it has been "we discussed it and decided this".
> > Hardly a con
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:56:46 +1100
Ian Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Darrin,
>
> Over the past few years, there is no doubt in my mind that the
> consensus on the Australian mailing list, and in practice in
> Australia, has been to use mini-roundabouts to indicate the concrete
> struct
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:22:11 +1100
Ian Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darrin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I know of at least 5 roundabouts in Adelaide alone
> > that DO qualify for the global OSM definition of a mini-roundabout
> > so I don'
> Darrin, perhaps you might just make it clear exactly which
> roundabouts who has altered and where they are.
> I noted those two in Medindie, where as I saw it, I changed from a
> lesser quality of data (aerial imagery) to survey. I drove them at
> night and I can't tell exactly how large they w
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:06:16 +1100
Matt White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just been cleaning up the Princes highway around Warnambool,
> Vic. Does anybody know if it's a dual carriage way either side of
> warnambool?
>
> The existing roads were all over the shop, and the gps traces soome
>
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:30:50 +1030
Darrin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:33:26 +1100
> Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > > > It wasn't me you're talking about, was
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:33:26 +1100
Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > > It wasn't me you're talking about, was it?
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> > No it wasn't :)
>
> But it could be me
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:17:33 +1000
"Stephen Hope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At a guess, they wanted to use one of the roads for something that
> would be easier if it was in one piece, rather than split. A
> mini-roundabout is just one node in a way, while a roundabout breaks
> it up.
In the 2
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:29:54 +0900
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I noticed that I think - a whole lot of small courts suddenly
> inherited a turning circle at the end of them (whether that is what I
> should have done in the first place I don't know...)
>
> It wasn't me you're
first mapper was prepared to go to the effort of
drawing the roundabout why remove it? (Amusingly one of these mappers
is one who in other circumstances gratuitously converts any one-way
cul-de-sac into a roundabout despite the non-existance of roundabout
rules at these locations)
--
Darrin
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 18:55:28 +1100
"Paul Zagoridis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe the register could be started and the funds made available to a
> peer-reviewed mapper some way. E.g. if I volunteer to do a town, then
> I'd need to submit 3 favourable recommendations of my work by other
> Aust
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:25:25 +1100
Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Matt White wrote:
> > Cameron wrote:
> > > I wonder if it would be feasible to map the whole of Naracoorte
> > > for $400? To do it on the cheap you could camp at the
> > > showgrounds. Would need power for a la
I've just upgraded my machine here and I can't get josm to run stably
for more than about 5 minutes without it losing the plot totally and
going to and un-responsive all grey screen. Does anyone else use JOSM
on multi-core machines and have any hints what might be causing the
problems?
--
=b
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:40:49 +1030
Kim Hawtin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darrin Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Looking at your B37 & Alexandrina & Flaxley Rd ro
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:03:42 +1100
Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > But not all sections of the road in one state have the same code
> > (Sturt Highway being exactly the case in point, it is NOT National
> > A20 for the la
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:57:40 +1100
Liz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Darrin Smith wrote:
> > I used NHA20, NHA1 and NHA16 to all refer to the Shields with
> > 'National' on across the top to correlate with the remaing
> > 'National&
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:53:23 +1100
Elizabeth Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nothing says NHxx on the Sturt Highway; but some mappers put NHxx
> down. Can they justify this terminology on the basis of recent
> signage?
>
> sample of highway markers - Mildura
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=
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