Re: [Talk-GB] driveway-becomes-track

OSMAND has recently had some very positive comments about walking on an unrelated (to OSM) forum I use. It also doesn't appear to render on the basis of whether there is a service=driveway tag at the moment. In the field, as a walker, given you can download the maps, it is what I would

[Talk-GB] (re: Re: Road name contradictions in the UK)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping horse steps?

According to a horse riding friend this would most commonly be known as a “mounting block” in UK. It seems people are more likely to need to them to get on a horse rather than off. The only recent occasion I have seen them on a bridleway was a new dedicated bridleway bridge (not much wider

Re: [Talk-GB] Legally permitted vs inadvisable

If I’m planning a walk for myself or leading a group in a rural area such as the Peak District I would always assume for an A or B road sidewalk=none as the default. Because of a lack of detail on most maps for sidewalks and verges most people out walking in rural areas are likely to plan

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

Hi I have taken a look at my data for this area. I have a few pictures from when I walked through this "farmyard" that are from 2013. It was in my early days of mapping. Looking at this data on JOSM and my pictures I have tidied it up a bit. I think the satellite imagery has also

Re: [Talk-GB] Upper Booth camp site, Pennine Way near Edale

Hi Although not the type of feedback we want, it is actually good to hear that people are using the map. I have walked through here and may have some pictures for reference so will see what I can do without a survey. It is a well used walking area so the owners are unlikely to dispute public

Re: [Talk-GB] Composite mapping (OSM and OS, PRoWs etc)

Hi Luke It is a nice looking map you have produced. As has been mentioned, I have put in quite a few of the field boundaries in the Peak District and have also tried to get the footpath network completely mapped over the last few years. There are still a few to go but not many. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access

if they will confirm the actual access for this particular highway. Kind Regards Dudley > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:34:29 + > From: robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com > To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access > > On 13 February 2016 at 14

Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access

Hi I came across a paved single lane "road" on a recent walk that was sign posted in both directions as a "Public Road" It makes a loop between two "unclassified" roads. Functionally, is seems to be a service route for an isolated farm that sits at the top of the loop, although it would make

Re: [Talk-GB] Next UK chapter concall

Hi Brian I think we should have "ordinary" members with full voting rights. Another class of membership should be for "organisations". They should be required to nominate an individual to represent them. Their voting rights should be limited so they cannot vote for committee membership or

Re: [Talk-GB] "UKOSM" Aims draft 2

Hi Brian This is looking good. We don't seem to be covering "development" of the actual database in the context of increasing the amount of data in it with regard to the UK. i.e. "improving the UK map". I think it would be good to capture this as an aim but I'm not sure about how you

Re: [Talk-GB] UKOSM or OSMUK or OSMGB proposed aims

Hi Rob It seems that if we are thinking about charitable organisation we need to be careful about whether we are talking about “aims” or “objectives”. Quoting : http://www.ces-vol.org.uk/about-performance-improvement/about-monitoring-evaluation/planning-for-monitoring-evaluation/aims.html

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Meet Abbots Bromley 30th Dec

I would also add my thanks. I've added the footpaths etc around Colton where I went after lunch. There are more building to be added to the village but the Bing imagery isn't that good. I've not looked at the walk we did in the morning yet so there might be a few more details to add north

Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

Spring next year would be my preference. Realistically I would only be able to make Rutland. If it does go ahead I wonder if we could use the Hot Tasking manager and Mapillary. Neither were presumably available in 2006. I guess there would be other tools we could use to highlight which

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

Hi Rob My approach is a pragmatic one. I've come to the conclusion that it isn't reasonable to expect the default OSM website to render the specialist features that a UK walker would want. The gold standard for UK walkers has to be the OS 1:25 so you would need contours, the British National

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths and Footways

Hi My thoughts as follows: This is really going to be something for a UK specific rendering. It is actually quite useful as a QC exercise to rendering footways/paths with and without a designation tag. Something I do on my own Garmin map. The presumption on my part being that ideally we

Re: [Talk-GB] UK/GB OpenStreetMap survey results

This looks to be quite a good list of objectives. I would suggest adding discussions with the existing local groups. How might they fit in should a national group be formed? What might a national group be able to provide in the way of support to local groups. I would hope that any

Re: [Talk-GB] Open Access Land

Hi Survey it? But I guess you're referring to armchair mapping. So try Natural England? http://www.openaccess.naturalengland.org.uk/wps/portal/oasys/maps/MapSearch/ On 02/08/2015 18:10, Dudley Ibbett wrote: Hi

[Talk-GB] Open Access Land

Hi Am I correct in assuming that there is still no source of data that can be used to draw these areas? Regards Dudley ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire County Council Rights of Way

It is a while since I have reported a footpath issue. Their reporting website now provides openstreetmap as a map layer which is good to see.They offer the standard OSM layer and also a walking layer. The latter is unforunatley the cycleing layer which doesn't really do the map data

Re: [Talk-GB] British National Grid File for JOSM

Hi I was wondering if anyone knows of a program to generate British National Grid files (ideally with labelling options) that can then be combined with an osm data file. What I'd like to produce is a osm datafile with a british national grid that I can then be rendered within Maperative.

Re: [Talk-GB] Hanbury Meeting

I would also like to add my thanks. It was good to meet up with others. The format, of walking together, stopping for lunch and then splitting up to cover more ground worked well for me. I did overlap a little with Andy but it was good to walk West and fully appreciate Hanbury's location.

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

I am also hoping to attend. Regards Dudley Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:12:47 + From: sk53@gmail.com To: rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com CC: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up Well if nothing else we can

Re: [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

I am also hoping to attend. Regards Dudley Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 18:12:47 + From: sk53@gmail.com To: rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com CC: talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up Well if nothing else we can

Re: [Talk-GB] News Paper Article

There have been a number of articles in the Guardian about Google maps. It was therefore good to see something on Openstreetmap in this Friday's edition . The online version can be found at: http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/oct/06/missing-maps-human-genome-project-unmapped-cities

Re: [Talk-GB] FW: Wrongly mapped Lake District ways

Hi Sum Wum has replied and was apologetic. They have attempted to correct their edits but several footpaths were still distorted. I have therefore reverted this changeset and the original edits. I think this now looks OK. Regards Dudley From: dudleyibb...@hotmail.com To:

[Talk-GB] FW: Wrongly mapped Lake District ways

Hi No one has responded so I have sent a message to Sum Wum suggesting they may not have realised they were actually editing the map. I have suggested they look at the begginer's guide, help and mail groups for further assistance. I have pointed out that the edits need to be corrected and

Re: [Talk-GB] Wrongly mapped Lake District ways

Hi I'm not in or near the Lake District but am reasonably familiar with this area. Has anyone approached Sum Wum. Presumably they probably didn't know they were actually editing the map. These all need reverting. I have never reverted anything using JOSM before but am happy to give it a

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Indoor walkways

Hi I visited the NEC this week and tried using Osmand to navigate between Birmingham International Railway Station and the Hilton Hotel. Whilst the map was very helpful and has lots of detail, the suggested route took you via roads. How might you map the walkways through the NEC building

Re: [Talk-GB] Hants CC - Open Government Licence use of data

Only a few weeks ago I was talking with a Council Officer involved in developing a new way with a local walking group. They've discovered that many of the footpaths that make up the way no longer follow the definitive map and are now debating as to who is going to pay to get the map changed.

Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling

Hi On the subject of cycling the December/January CTC Cycle magazine doesn't have a very favourable write up for the Garmin Edge Touring Plus which comes with the Open Street Map project data. It makes the comment that OSM like Wikipedia, is neither complete nor entirely accurate!. It also

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping climbing routes/areas.

I'm a retired climber. It would certainly have been useful to have had maps of crags (the old guidebooks just had drawings of the crags and an OS reference) and a smart phone to locate the general area of a climb if not the actual start. From memory, many of the larger crags also have named

Re: [Talk-GB] Unclassified and Tertiary Roads

Many thanks for all the responses. I've changed Roach Road (it is free of pot holes at the moment!) to unclassified but will survey the others before changing them. Regards Dudley ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Unclassified and Tertiary Roads

Hi In Upper Hulme (Old Buxton Road and Roach Road) and on roads above (Back of the Rocks) and below (Blackshaw Lane) there seem to be odd changes between Unclassified and Tertiary Road tags. http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/53.1444/-1.9821 I've no experience with regard to tagging

Re: [Talk-GB] Terrace

Hi Not strictly GB questions but could anyone help on the following: How do you tag outside seating areas for cafes, bars and restaurants that are not attached to the building. i.e. separated by a path or even a road. There is terrace=* listed under cafe. How do you tag a self contained

Re: [Talk-GB] Lines of Trees along river banks etc.

at 11:15 PM, Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi I was wondering if anyone has been mapping these? Quite often I come across streams and rivers where there are dense lines of trees along the river banks. Occasional I find lines of trees which seem to be remnant hedgerows where

Re: [Talk-GB] Lines of Trees along river banks etc.

Hi I was wondering if anyone has been mapping these? Quite often I come across streams and rivers where there are dense lines of trees along the river banks. Occasional I find lines of trees which seem to be remnant hedgerows where the shrubs have been removed. Looking on line it would

Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

...@chezphil.org wrote: Dudley Ibbett wrote: I'm trying to make use of the row files on rowmaps for derbyshire and staffordshire and and merging these with and osm map file to then produce maps that can highlight which paths are and aren't mapped. Thanks for doing this. One suggestion

Re: [Talk-GB] Finding Unmapped public rights of way

Hi I'm trying to make use of the row files on rowmaps for derbyshire and staffordshire and and merging these with and osm map file to then produce maps that can highlight which paths are and aren't mapped. I can put the derbyshire file into JOSM and download parts of the area and merge them

Re: [Talk-GB] Obstructed Rights of Way

Hi I was doing some walking/mapping in Rookhope (Weardale) a few weeks back. Whilst I have managed to map out some walls to the West of Rookhope I struggled with the footpaths that go through these fields. Two I attempted were obstructed. (I've marked them with fixmes) I have reported the

Re: [Talk-GB] Peak and Northern Footpath Signs

Hi I've now come across a few of these signs: http://www.peakandnorthern.org.uk/signposts/about-our-signposts.htm Is there a place for these in OSM? If so, how should they be mapped as they are in effect a destination sign in most cases although they can just provide information? As a

Re: [Talk-GB] Neighbourhood Planning - data import proposal

I might have got this all wrong but taking a look at the node in the changeset for our NP it would seem that there has been an import of the data available on the Borough Council's website with regard to this. It would appear this is part of the proposal. i.e. nodes at the centroid of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Natural England Data

Never easy. As requested I have registered a basic complaint about OS and Natural England data. I must admit I don't comprehend all the issues. I don't intend to import any of this information but am just looking for something I can use to draw areas on OSM if necessary. I suspect that

Re: [Talk-GB] Natural England Data

Hi Am I correct in assuming we cannot use this data. It talks about OGL but also mentions 3rd party and OS (again!!) http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/publications/data/ The reason I ask is because whilst I can go around our neighbourhood and put in walls fences, woods etc I don't seem to

Re: [Talk-GB] walls versus landuse=field

Hope is slowly becoming reality in the Peak District. We will eventually end up with a better map than the OS 1:25 because it will also be possible to map the types of barrier, the types of stiles, gates, kissing gates etc. The current OSM website rendering seems to be geared towards urban

Re: [Talk-GB] the brilliant and constantly improving Wikipedia of maps

Hi The following was in today's Guardian paper in the G2 section. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/shortcuts/2013/apr/28/new-cartography-making-mountains-hills Regards Dudley ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Using rights of way data

Hi Has anyone tried to obtain the Definitive Statements from Derbyshire or Staffordshire County Councils in electronic format? The Derbyshire website just talks about arranging a visit to see the document. Regards Dudley Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 18:04:39 +0100 From:

Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags

I suspect mapping meadows is a job for experts. I tried asking one and was told there are no natural meadows in the UK and meadow is a landuse. Probably time to find another expert. To this extent, for most mappers natural=meadow and landuse=meadow would certainly be interchangable. If

Re: [Talk-GB] Neighbourhood Planning - data import proposal

Hi Steve It would be good to know how this would impact practically. There are Parish boundaries are on the map locally and we are developing a Neighbourhood Plan that covers two Parishes. Would this be a relation joining the PCs that form the NPA with the additional tags you are suggesting

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM on BBC TV

I must admit I am hoping that SOTM being in the UK this year will give us some good media coverage. Dudley Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:41:04 +0100 From: k...@k3v.eu To: nomoregra...@googlemail.com CC: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OSM on BBC TV On 8 April 2013 12:13,

Re: [Talk-GB] prow_ref

I have managed to get hold of a couple of maps from our Parish Council with the prow reference numbers written on them. The map itself is marked as not to be photo copied and appears to have been issued by Derbyshire County Council. It dates back to 2004. Is it going to be OK for me to use

Re: [Talk-GB] prow_ref

As suggested I've downloaded the kml file for Derbyshire and found a plugin to view it in JOSM. The paths have a code DY|AV3|3/1 for example. It would seem County Council=Derbyshire (DY), Borough Council= Amber Valley (AV). The number 3 appears to relate to the parish. (i.e. it changes as

Re: [Talk-GB] prow_ref

Many Thanks I'll use the code without the county council letters as this is what is in the name tag in JOSM. I'll debate as to whether to split the path number according to the last number as this would require quite a bit of work and I've still not mapped all the paths in the parish yet!

Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas

Many thanks for the comments. I will now stick to Highway=Service for direct access from roads to Farmyards. I will also use this for residential properties set back from the road as there are quite a few old farms/farm buildings being converted into residential use. I will also try and

Re: [Talk-GB] Gaps in Barriers

Hi I could also do with some comments on the use of barrier=entrance or entrance=yes when there is a gap in a barrier (i.e hedge or wall) i.e. no gate or stile. I appreciate you could just draw two ways with a gap but sometimes the gap is quite small and a node would seem more suitable. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Highways Leading to Farms and single residential properties in rural areas

Hi This may be a matter of style but it seems that both Highway=Service and Highway=Track are used for the access highways to farms and also residential properties in rural areas. I must admit I was using High=Track based on whether it was paved (tarmac) or not. i.e. tarmac would suggest

Re: [Talk-GB] London Tube Tagging Problems

I recently visited London and looked at the OSM map around London Bridge for the tube station. It was difficult to find as it appears to have the same tag as the main line station. My particular reason for looking at the map was to see where the exit/s were. What would be the correct way to

Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

Looks like I'm missing something here as I always assumed Dartmoor was a moor, given its name. Is there a reason for moors being tagged as heaths? There are some moors, in name, locally which need mapping. Dudley Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote: On 28 Feb 2013 23:08, SomeoneElse

Re: [Talk-GB] road names along the A50 (and elsewhere)

I am a novice when it comes to road names. I've probably only done a couple, if that, so apologies if I'm stating anything that is already well known. A friend was involved in the construction of these bypasses. I understand that the body for this was the Highways Agency and through their

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] Wiki documentation on GPS devices - please help answer some questions

Hi Rob As a UK countryside mapper using a Blumax and Garmin 62s and JOSM I'd make the following comments: At this time my personal answer would be almost anywhere (path, tracks, roads etc. etc.). I also understand that the accuracy of the GPS trace will vary with time due to the position

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

Given there is probably no right way to do this I would adopt the same approach in this situation and keep it simple. Wall (the origin of the boundary) or fence the actual barrier at this time, it is up to you. My preference would be wall. Dudley Sent from my iPad On 3 Jan 2013, at 14:57,

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

Personally, it is good to see others adding field boundaries. I thought it might be useful to describe my current practice with regard to mapping field boundaries. In making the following comments, I would say that I am interested in landscape maintenance and presevation and not just

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

My main motivation for getting involved with OSM was to get a better walking map on my garmin. To this extent I have been adding lots of barriers in the southern part of the Peak District. So it is being done. Whilst it is time consuming I wouldn't say it is difficult. I do survey with a

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

Please be careful with the ™doesn't actually exist™ as the owner may not have maintained the access point in the hope that people will stop using the path. I've seen this on a number of occasions. I would investigate further and raise it with the PRoWO. I believe there is a deadline coming up

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

I tried searching on Weardale but there doesn't appear to be a POI marking the Dale! For those that know this area where would make a good base for walking and also have a Pub with wifi for updating OSM in the evening? Thanks Dudley Sent from my iPad On 31 Dec 2012, at 16:47, Graham Jones

Re: [Talk-GB] The Monsal Trail in Derbyshire

Hi I use to walk this route before the tunnels were open. Please keep the paths that use to run around the tunnels. The might be less used with the tunnels now open but they have spectacular views. I was never sure of their designation but presumably if the stiles still exist access can

Re: [Talk-GB] Telegraph releases Green Belt data

Hi This is a topical subject for me as I'm a Parish Councillor and we're looking to develop a Neighbourhood Plan. Ours is a small rural Parish and I'm hoping to use OSM to map it in more detail and then use Maperative to produce maps of specific features. I'd suggest contacting your local

Re: [Talk-GB] Stiles (and gates) on roads

Having recently started mapping paths, stiles etc I did find this in the documentation for stiles and gates. There is nothing in barrier=entrance but presumably this isn't an issue for routers. A general page on mapping the UK countryside might be useful for new mappers. Regards Dudley

Re: [Talk-GB] Hadrian's Wall

Hi I'm trying to do a bit of mapping near Once Brewed following a walk this weekend. Hadrian's Wall seems to be tagged as historic=ruins, name=... at one point and historic=wall, name=... at another. The former seems to be trying to create an area in JOSM. Given that I am trying to add

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Field Boundaries

Hi Over the last few months I've been mapping field boundaries in Derbyshire/Peak District. The condition of dry_stone walls varies greatly. One thing I would also like to do is tag the condition as this information could well be useful in preserving the landscape character. There are