Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, m...@vmarc.be wrote: osma.vmarc.be I have a question about : http://osma.vmarc.be/en/route/1758816 The problem here is a virtual path in a pedestrian area tagged as route='bicycle, but used in a walking/hiking/foot route. Anything I can do to solve the problem

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-19 Thread Andre Engels
Put foot=yes on the virtual path? On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 3:19 PM, m...@vmarc.be wrote: osma.vmarc.be I have a question about : http://osma.vmarc.be/en/route/1758816 The problem here is a virtual path in a pedestrian

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
that's what I did, but I wonder whether Marc takes that into account for his QA tool On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: Put foot=yes on the virtual path? On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2015

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-19 Thread marc
Marc, On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question about : http://osma.vmarc.be/en/route/1758816 [2] The problem here is a virtual path in a pedestrian area tagged as route='bicycle, but used in a walking/hiking/foot route. Anything I can do to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-19 Thread Marc Gemis
Thanks, I should have read the manual :-) Hope the Rivierenland network is almost error free now. regards m On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:06 PM, m...@vmarc.be wrote: Marc, On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: I have a question about :

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-18 Thread Stijn Rombauts
is the best tag for such an area? StijnRR From: Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com To: Jo Hannes winfi...@gmail.com; OpenStreetMap Belgium talk-be@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-17 Thread Jo
If I would perform the analysis, in what format do you need the results? What do you use at the moment? I'd be inclined to do it all within JOSM. Unfortunately that makes running it as a 'batch job' automatically harder. The alternative would be to load all the data downloaded from Overpass in

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-17 Thread marc
Hello Jo, That analysis site is wonderful! Thanks. Do you think you (we) could create something comparable for public transport? I have never had a closer look at public transport mapping, but I expect it would certainly be possible to perform a similar analysis. At this moment I do not

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-17 Thread marc
Jo, What do you use at the moment? The osma.vmarc.be analysis runs unattended in a virtual server (http://www.versio.be/cloudbox). Every night at 01:00h a job is started to load fresh data from Overpass API (http://overpass-api.de/). The data is analyzed using logic written in the Scala

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-16 Thread Jo
Hi Marc, That analysis site is wonderful! Maybe we should start a 'weekly assignemnt' to solve all the problems reported. Most of them are not very hard to solve. Add a way, sort the ways once again, split a way and readd one of the parts. Do you think you (we) could create something comparable

[OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Jakka
Hi, How do we tag the roundabouts in a relation of hiking route minor problem but bicycle routes (knooppunten) and public transport routes ? I cute the roundabouts in pieces highway to highway. Is this the properly way? But gives the tester prg like http://osma.vmarc.be/ or

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Marc Gemis
Not everybody splits a roundabout for a route, although I usually split it. JOSM shows a nice roundabout icon in the route relation editor in case you do not split. Routers are probably smart enough to escape the roundabout themselves. When it is not a roundabout, it is normal to split the street

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Jo
The routers are probably smart enough to not send you around the roundabout times more often than strictly necessary. The renderers however, are not and it would be very hard to change that. It's simply easier to split the roundabouts manually and then the rendering can show exactly where the

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: If you like to add landuse=village_green for the a never use village_green in Belgium ! It for a very specific type of area only found on the British islands. see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dvillage_green Use

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Jo
My preference is to split roundabouts, because this gives a very clean result in where the buses drive exactly. For bicycle routes this means forward/backward split sections, For hiking routes I use the shortest path between the connecting ways. The code for the tester will have to be adapted,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Sander Deryckere
The old recommendation was to not split roundabouts. It makes it easier for the software to see it's a roundabout when it's closed, and it makes routing stuff (like counting the exit number) easier. However, that recommendation changed on the wiki some years ago (AFAICS, without discussion). So

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fietsknooppunten, bicycle nodes Roundabouts and around squares

2015-05-15 Thread Jo
Type: Ctrl-f junction=roundabout inview tick the box: add toolbar button You are rewarded with a handy button on your toolbar. Get 1 roundabout in your viewing window. Press the button. All ways of the roundabout are selected. Remove oneway=yes if it's (still) there. now press 'o'. The