Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread James
I agree that forest that are way too costly in time should be removed, but they should also be replaced with something(better) not just mass removed, oh well we'll get to it later kind of thing On Sep 1, 2016 8:05 PM, "Sam Dyck" wrote: > I took a break to make supper, so I'm going to have to re

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Sam Dyck
I took a break to make supper, so I'm going to have to respond collectively. - Sammuell and sammuell_imports are my accounts. Both the forest and the lake are from Canvec data imported together as in the same tile. I Imported the whole thing (I would never import over existing data that carelessl

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Alan Richards
I agree with Frederik here. New imports need to make sure they follow the import guidelines, including using a dedicated import account. The wiki information could all be cleaned up, consolidated, and then new users would know the current status and process for importing new information. For clea

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
>I think a super good first step would be try and ensure that future imports are done diligently and don't introduce new issues. I think that is a reasonable way forward, and I concur with the rest of your post. I think we need to identify which parts of CANVEC are giving concern, each province i

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Andrew, On 09/02/2016 12:47 AM, Andrew Lester wrote: > If people from outside of Canada have decided that our data is so bad > that it needs to be completely wiped out in its entirety, then I guess > we're going to have to do something drastic to try to prevent this. I think a super good first st

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
*To: *"Talk-CA OpenStreetMap" > *Sent: *Thursday, September 1, 2016 2:38:38 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts > > After reading Paul's email again, its possible that what Nakaner is doing > is in line with Paul's suggestion, if unnecessarily confrontati

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016, at 16:47, Andrew Lester wrote: > If people from outside of Canada have decided that our data is so bad > that it needs to be completely wiped out in its entirety, then I guess > we're going to have to do something drastic to try to prevent this. > > @Michael, Frederik, Paul: w

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Andrew Lester
vec et venir discuter sur Talk-Ca si vous avez d'autres questions. Pierre De : Sam Dyck < samueld...@gmail.com > À : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap < talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > Envoyé le : jeudi 1 Septembre 2016 17h06 Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts I received the follow

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Sam, On 09/01/2016 11:26 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> I believe the given what we have just spent the last 24 hours discussing >> this request is unreasonable and the issue is not significant. Thoughts? > > An importer who imports data into OSM that doesn't match up with already > existing data an

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Sam Dyck
; Pierre > > > -- > *De :* Sam Dyck > *À :* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap > *Envoyé le :* jeudi 1 Septembre 2016 17h06 > *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts > > I received the following changeset comment from Nakaner for a Canvec > import (change

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Sam, Am 01.09.2016 um 23:06 schrieb Sam Dyck: > I received the following changeset comment from Nakaner for a Canvec import > (changeset > 38158126) at 15:55 Central Time (20:55 UTC): > > "This changeset has uploaded data which does not fit to each other. There > is an offset between the water

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 2016-09-01 21:06:57, Sam Dyck wrote: > I believe the given what we have just spent the last 24 hours discussing > this request is unreasonable and the issue is not significant. Thoughts? An importer who imports data into OSM that doesn't match up with already existing data and doesn't noti

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Sam Dyck
I received the following changeset comment from Nakaner for a Canvec import (changeset 38158126) at 15:55 Central Time (20:55 UTC): "This changeset has uploaded data which does not fit to each other. There is an offset between the water areas and the forest areas. Example: https://www.openstreetma

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread James
>From what Rps333 told me in person he had worked many hours on that changeset and was frustrated when someone reverted before fixes could be applied. Could you revert the revert? On Sep 1, 2016 4:09 PM, "Paul Norman" wrote: > Hello, > > Multiple people have referred this issue and changeset 395

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
Canvec data has been imported for many years so why the sudden challenge and change? Are you willing to reimport the CANVEC data or are you intent on leaving a blank area in the map? Cheerio John On 1 September 2016 at 15:41, Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi James, > > Am 2016-09-01 um 15:04 schri

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Paul Norman
Hello, Multiple people have referred this issue and changeset 39517002 to the OpenStreetMap Foundation Data Working Group about this issue. The Data Working Group has responsibility for the resolution of disputes beyond the normal means of the community, as well as some responsibilities concernin

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Begin Daniel
Message- From: Michael Reichert [mailto:naka...@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 2016 15:41 To: James Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts Hi James, Am 2016-09-01 um 15:04 schrieb James: > To blatantly toss discussions of the > past whether to import

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi James, Am 2016-09-01 um 15:04 schrieb James: > To blatantly toss discussions of the > past whether to import CanVec or not into OSM and *that was approved*, … Could you point me to the discussion at the Imports mailing list? (link to the archive of the mailing list) I am not against importing

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Darren Wiebe
-- > From: Michael Reichert [mailto:naka...@gmx.net] > Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 2016 01:39 > To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > unfortunately posting via Gmane does

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Sam Dyck
16 01:39 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, unfortunately posting via Gmane does not seem to work (the website is down but NNTP still works), that's why I have to start a new thread. :-( Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:41:

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Loïc Haméon
as possible into two parts. >>> >>> > Some years ago I would have proposed that someone write a guide "How >>> to fix a >>> > CanVec import". But now I would rather propose that someone write a >>> "How to >>> > pre-proce

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Begin Daniel
...@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 2016 08:37 To: Begin Daniel; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts Hi Daniel, Am 2016-09-01 um 12:26 schrieb Begin Daniel: > Furthermore, I hope you will not use you 100 objects per minute to > decide whether or not you will de

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, Am 2016-09-01 um 13:22 schrieb john whelan: > In many parts of the country there are no local mappers for many > miles or kilometers if you prefer. We do have some very > experienced GIS people around and I'm under the impression that we > r

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread James
What tells you he didnt prepare batches outside the upload time(offline)? Your logic is skewed On Sep 1, 2016 8:39 AM, "Michael Reichert" wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > Am 2016-09-01 um 12:26 schrieb Begin Daniel: > > Furthermore, I hope you will not use you 100 objects per minute to > decide whether o

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Daniel, Am 2016-09-01 um 12:26 schrieb Begin Daniel: > Furthermore, I hope you will not use you 100 objects per minute to decide > whether or not you will delete a changeset. I think this threshold is value > doesn't' apply (see below) > > Daniel > > About the100 objects threshold. > From m

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread john whelan
inutes it takes to upload > the data to the database (5K objects per minute) do not reflect the time I > spent editing the data prior to the upload. > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Reichert [mailto:naka...@gmx.net] > Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 201

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread Begin Daniel
prior to the upload. -Original Message- From: Michael Reichert [mailto:naka...@gmx.net] Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 2016 01:39 To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, unfortunately posting via Gmane does not seem

Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-09-01 Thread James
See that's where I have an issue with your revert logic, if errors are mostly corrected and say theres only 1 or 2 warnings, you want to revert the whole thing which is very bad for: 1. The community and 2. The database. Let me explain: there are many hours that go into merging down CanVec ways and

[Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts

2016-08-31 Thread Michael Reichert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, unfortunately posting via Gmane does not seem to work (the website is down but NNTP still works), that's why I have to start a new thread. :-( Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:41:21 -0500 schrieb Sam Dyck: > After reading through the changeset discussion