Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Andy Impressive! Shame about the data. Just done a quick look around Acocks Green - ATMs missing and some are up to 30m away from their actual location. I would estimate about 95% accuracy. Anyone else had a look? Regards Brian On 21 August 2012 11:30, Andy Mabbett

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 12:33 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Andy Impressive! Shame about the data. Just done a quick look around Acocks Green - ATMs missing and some are up to 30m away from their actual location. I would estimate about 95% accuracy. Anyone else had a look? Too small an

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread J.Woollacott
Some of them are spot on in my area and others are 30/50m away/on wrong sides of the roads/etc. They do have a light blue and a dark blue colour, the light blue colour shows the chargeable ones. Jason -Original Message- From: Philip Barnes Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:15 PM

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: A different colour for the machines which charge would be useful, to allow these to be ignored. They're in an ever-so-slightly lighter blue, I think? Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Philip Barnes wrote: Have just spotted this changeset, which has globally changed footway tags to sidewalk, the area covers the UK. Any thoughts, to me sidewalk is one of those American words that should not find its way into English. They're not even equivalent

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Chris Hill
John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Have just spotted this changeset, which has globally changed footway tags to sidewalk, the area covers the UK. Any thoughts, to me sidewalk is one of those American words that

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Gregory
More great work from Matthew! Andy, take a look in the top right to search for elsewhere around the UK. I too was going to suggest that the locations were based on postcodes, perhaps only some. How is the data collected, I can only find links to their locator. Is it scraped in someway, or

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Gregory
I saw this recently, quick search in my e-mail found [OSM-talk] FYI - Automated edit: footway - sidewalk containing a link to http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17526 Note the objections, and disregard for them! -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 20 Aug 2012, at 13:30, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Have just spotted this changeset, which has globally changed footway tags to sidewalk, the area covers the UK. Any thoughts, to me sidewalk is one of those American words that should not find its way into English.

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
They're not even equivalent things? I've mapped many things with highway=footway, that are most definitely not sidewalks. They go for example between blocks of houses... or in the country side. Use of sidewalk seems fair enough in the USA where it is part

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 20 Aug 2012, at 13:15, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 12:33 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi Andy Impressive! Shame about the data. Just done a quick look around Acocks Green - ATMs missing and some are up to 30m away from their actual location. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/08/12 13:21, Derick Rethans wrote: They're not even equivalent things? I've mapped many things with highway=footway, that are most definitely not sidewalks. They go for example between blocks of houses... or in the country side. According to the changeset comment it was

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Derick Rethans
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Brian Prangle wrote: Impressive! Shame about the data. Just done a quick look around Acocks Green - ATMs missing and some are up to 30m away from their actual location. I would estimate about 95% accuracy. Anyone else had a look? It's not great where I live either.

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Tom Chance
On 21 August 2012 13:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Also, mass-retagging I frown upon. Why was this even done?! Agreed. Frederick has already applied a block. Out of interest, which part of the mechanical edit policy did this contributor not comply with? As he notes in that forum

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
Which forum thread? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 21/08/2012 14:32 Tom Chance wrote: On 21 August 2012 13:29, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Also, mass-retagging I frown upon. Why was this even done?! Agreed. Frederick has already applied a block. Out of interest, which part of

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Sam Larsen
I don't really see the point of this thread. UK cash machine data is fairly dense in OSM, i very rarely find any that aren't already mapped. Can't we just extract OSM cash machines?  This will spur us on to map them better in OSM in areas that are lacking, which will lead to a better OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Andy Robinson
The problem with path is that it doesn't convey any meaning. The original idea behind footway was that it was a way that you traversed on foot. Over the years others have wanted to segregate this blanket idea into different fractions to denote the diffident types of footway. I can name a few

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Adam Hoyle wrote: On 21 Aug 2012, at 14:47, Andy Allan wrote: On 21 August 2012 13:27, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Although I'd usually oppose such Americanisms, in this case sidewalk is unambiguous in a way that footway (or pavement)

Re: [Talk-GB] On Countryside paths

2012-08-21 Thread Adam Hoyle
On 21 Aug 2012, at 17:56, Rob Nickerson wrote: Adam Wrote: It's totally confused me, so in the bit of UK countryside I edit I have added tons of ways with highway=footway tags through woods, fields etc, when in fact I am pretty sure they should really be highway=path tags. I realised

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I am now reverting these changes since DWG has had a number of complaints about them. I sense that there might be some merit in the idea of changing something, but people are opposed to how the change has been discussed and executed. I'll have a word with the guy who made the edit

Re: [Talk-GB] On Countryside paths

2012-08-21 Thread Borbus
On 21/08/12 19:11, Adam Hoyle wrote: Speaking of the which, anyone have any idea when the designation tag will be rendered on the main OSM renderer (or even in Potlatch which would do me in the short term). The mapnik layer on osm.org is an international map so it doesn't support things like

Re: [Talk-GB] On Countryside paths

2012-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 20:37 +0100, Borbus wrote: On 21/08/12 19:11, Adam Hoyle wrote: Speaking of the which, anyone have any idea when the designation tag will be rendered on the main OSM renderer (or even in Potlatch which would do me in the short term). The mapnik layer on osm.org is

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 21 August 2012 20:54, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: Looking more closely, it is definitely using postcodes for location, so not something to import into OSM. Indeed not; but it could be used in the same manner as the postcode-based list of bike shops which we successfully merged

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Tom Chance
On 21 August 2012 14:40, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Out of interest, which part of the mechanical edit policy did this contributor not comply with? As he notes in that forum thread, he thought he had followed it to the letter. Well the venue looks wrong to me to start with - he used

Re: [Talk-GB] Find My Nearest Cash Machine

2012-08-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Aug 2012, at 18:44, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 August 2012 14:40, Sam Larsen samlars...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: I don't really see the point of this thread. UK cash machine data is fairly dense in OSM, i very rarely find any that aren't already mapped. Can't we

Re: [Talk-GB] Footway to Sidewalk?

2012-08-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Chance wrote: I see Peter Ito has made some changes to tighten up this policy (surely guidance?) It's a policy of the OSMF Data Working Group. I made the clarifications, not Peter. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-GB] On Countryside paths

2012-08-21 Thread SomeoneElse
Philip Barnes wrote: A UK renderer for OSM would be the way to go, that is able to use the OSM data and display rights of way. Would help to spot tagging errors, once they are shown correctly. Well, there's this one that ITO have made: http://www.itoworld.com/map/87#fullscreen (but every