Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-04 Thread Jack Stringer
No need for relations. Just tag each address with addr:postcode or postal_code and all is sorted. Tag it with addr:postcode as that seems to be the system for now. And in case you haven't seen it: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/postcodes/?layers=000FBT0F this is taken from those two

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/7/4 Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com: No need for relations. Just tag each address with addr:postcode or postal_code and all is sorted. Tag it with addr:postcode as that seems to be the system for now. And in case you haven't seen it:

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-04 Thread Jack Stringer
Sorry I forgot to add this list in my reply to Dave On Jul 4, 2009 3:41 PM, Dave Stubbs osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote: 2009/7/4 Jack Stri... No need for relations. Just tag each address with addr:postcode or postal_code and all is sort... Well, we need to fix the errors... whether

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Jack Stringer wrote: Sent: 04 July 2009 12:45 PM To: Dave Stubbs; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing No need for relations. Just tag each address with addr:postcode or postal_code and all is sorted. Tag it with addr:postcode as that seems to be the system for now

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/7/4 Jack Stringer jack.ix...@googlemail.com: The reson for removing it would help in clarifying which one is to be used. Which one is that then? :-) Also for the programmers it saves on having to call 2 tags. Meh.. took me ten seconds for that map. If we take the atitude you suggest

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread WessexMario
By putting the Postcode in we are supply OSM with the postcode to be able to give that street a post code, same goes for streets. Rather than having the postcode in a separate addr:postcode tag for each building on the street, I would think it would be better to tag the street

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread WessexMario
to be precise, there are three levels in the postcode are hierarchy, Area = SN District = SN13 Postcode = SN13_2PQ ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_the_United_Kingdom#Format ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread WessexMario
(that'll teach me to not proof-read a post...) there are FOUR levels in the UK postcode area hierarchy, Area = SN District = SN13 Sector = SN13_2 Postcode = SN13_2PQ Of course, any system should cope with international variations of postcode format

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Jack Stringer
I see what you are saying WM but until we get enough nodes with postcodes we can not see the area covered by it. If I was to record the postcode for each house in my village I would be able to draw up a correct map but how to interpret this data is the hard bit because for a gps device it would

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, WessexMario wrote: A lowest level postcode (SN13_2PQ) is not unique for a node, as multiple dwellings will have the same postcode, so this leads to having multiple tags for what is essentially a single data item, a postcoded area of land. It should be unique to a way (or

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Jack Stringer
Going by that theory how do you post code 2 farms that are 1mile appart but have the same postcode and are on different roads? For the moment I think it make sense to put postcodes on nodes untill we can get enough data to then know the extent of that post code area. Then we can that set out to

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Steve Hill
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Jack Stringer wrote: Going by that theory how do you post code 2 farms that are 1mile appart but have the same postcode and are on different roads? Tag both roads with the same postcode? that set out to remove the extra data (scripted) and put in the ways but for now we

[Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Jack Stringer
2009/7/3 Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org: On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Jack Stringer wrote: Going by that theory how do you post code 2 farms that are 1mile appart but have the same postcode and are on different roads? Tag both roads with the same postcode? I think this is where stuff is always

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Chris Hill
In case you haven't seen it there is an addressing system which has thought this through [1] and seems to be used as the de facto standard. My personal experience is that it is a slow and tedious process which I haven't even finished for the village where I live but don't mention this to

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Kev js1982
Streets certainly get postcoded differently on opposite sides of the street - one just has to look at the street name signs (as used by Rushcliffe BC) to see that. Also it's certainly possible where one street has multiple postcodes that the splits happen in different places on different sides of

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-03 Thread Ed Loach
Streets certainly get postcoded differently on opposite sides of the street - one just has to look at the street name signs (as used by Rushcliffe BC) to see that. Albert Road in Wolverhampton was one of the boundaries between WV6 and WV1, where one side was all WV6 and the other all WV1 (as

[Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Stringer
As I have mentioned before I am interested in improving the data on Amenities such as Pubs, Fast Food places. Most of this data can be found openly on the companies own website so I doubt they will have issues with us including the data as they want to be found on the maps. This also works for

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread David Earl
Jack Stringer wrote: As I have mentioned before I am interested in improving the data on Amenities such as Pubs, Fast Food places. Most of this data can be found openly on the companies own website so I doubt they will have issues with us including the data as they want to be found on the

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Chance
Hi Jack, On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:32:16 +0100, Jack Stringer wrote: It would be nice to get enough data together that we could start to do a similar thing to Google with having a popup when you mouse over the fast_food icon showing you the extra details. I think it would be good, so two

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Stringer
Not a bad idea. One other thought - we can always pull in data from Wikipedia and link to pages using the wikipedia= tag: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/External_links#Wikipedia No point in trying to duplicate this page, though I doubt Wikipedia has an entry for your

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Stringer
If we get lists of places we are looking for then we can find them on the map and fill the gaps. It also helps us to see what we are still missing from the maps. The list below is only a quick list. Amenities to get data for, Airports Ambulance Stations Banks Bus Stations Bus Stops (is there

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Stringer
There is also an issue of keeping the data up to date - having loads of data in OSM is great, but we run the risk of it going stale if we're not careful. In that case you might as well let Google win the war when it comes to maps with data on them. Like I said before with such a large userbase

Re: [Talk-GB] Amenity Editing

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
The last time you brought this up it was pointed out that web sites have copyright on them and this is a problem for your plans. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can ignore it. Using copyright data without permission IS A SHOW-STOPPER. Please don't continue to ignore the