Hi all,
Thanks Rob for that.
Chris Fleet (NLS) asked me to announce to the OSM community that the NLS is
also adding the Ordnance Survey Maps - 25 inch 2nd and later editions,
Scotland, 1892-1949, which is the most detailed topographic mapping for
all the inhabited regions of Scotland from the
Thanks Rob,
The alignment matches well with both bing and what is already on OSM
(although this may largely be derived).
Also pleasing to note that the addresses I have surveyed match those
on the OS map - don't suppose they change all that often.
Cheers, Donald
On 10 August 2014 00:04, Rob
I met Richard Rodger who is leading the MESH project at Edinburgh
University. Addresses in central Edinburgh have changed so little in 200
years that they are able to use OSM to map where attorneys were located in
the middle of the 19th Century. The historical addresses were acquired from
Business
Hi Mike,
[posted to legal-talk and talk-gb; responses to legal-talk or personal
email please]
I understand that you have had previous correspondence with Ornance Survey
and on requesting use of the OpenData you received the response that they
have no objections to geodata derived in part from OS
Hi,
Is there anyone here that has connections with OS. We are hoping that we might
get some representatives along to State of the Map Scotland.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2011
We are hoping that we can start a discussion on how to use the OS brand and
I would try to secure a face-to-face meeting with your council's GIS team,
and separately with any teams that are custodians of other data you're
interested in. Ask to talk generally about OpenStreetMap and raise this in
the meeting.
I've got a reasonable relationship now with a few people in
On 23 March 2011 19:25, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote:
Hi all,
Here is part of an email I sent to a few councils regarding rights of way
data (footpaths, bridleways, etc):
I have a big and fairly complicated request regarding the definitive map. I
am interested in making data
As I understand it, there is both a written record of where the rights
of way go and the definitive map is in addition, with the written record
taking precedence?
So if a local authority is drawing their map, and it's offset from the
line of a wall for example from OS MasterMap, as the
On 24 March 2011 13:56, Luke Smith luke.sm...@grough.co.uk wrote:
As I understand it, there is both a written record of where the rights of
way go and the definitive map is in addition, with the written record taking
precedence?
So if a local authority is drawing their map, and it's offset
On 24 Mar 2011, at 13:56, Luke Smith wrote:
As I understand it, there is both a written record of where the rights of way
go and the definitive map is in addition, with the written record taking
precedence?
My experience is that it probably depends, and that the statement and map are
very
On 24/03/2011 17:13, Kevin Peat wrote:
On 24 March 2011 16:56, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com
mailto:e...@waniasset.com wrote:
You could use something like
designation=public_footpath
highway=no
note=Although a right of way, there is no path on the ground.
Would work I
Hi all,
Here is part of an email I sent to a few councils regarding rights of
way data (footpaths, bridleways, etc):
I have a big and fairly complicated request regarding the definitive
map. I am interested in making data more accessible to the public (as
encouraged by central government
For those that haven't seen, the Ordnance Survey is going to provide local
authorities with access to its maps free of charge from April 1st.
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk
/oswebsite/business/sectors/government/publicpsmafaqs.html
This doesn't directly affect OSM but it will provide tougher
On 7 March 2011 18:17, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
For those that haven't seen, the Ordnance Survey is going to provide local
authorities with access to its maps free of charge from April 1st.
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk
/oswebsite/business/sectors/government/publicpsmafaqs.html
Are the scripts which were used to generate the tiles from the StreetView
data files available anywhere?
I am trying to work out how to generate the Streetview tiles myself and am
struggling to understand everything (falling at the first hurdle at present
unfortunately
Kev.
On Thursday 25 November 2010, Bunny wrote:
The latest release of OS Streetview® is now available 1/11/10
The November release of OS LocatorTM is now available 16/11/10
The November release of Code-Point Open is now available 18/11/10
See: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/
On Thursday 25 November 2010, Bunny wrote:
The latest release of OS Streetview® is now available 1/11/10
The November release of OS LocatorTM is now available 16/11/10
The November release of Code-Point Open is now available 18/11/10
See: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/
Cool!
I from looking at whats available, I grabbed a random spot / tile area
from the os vectormap
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/vectormap/district/docs/feature_code_list_v1-0.pdf
I'll be cross-referencing these map features with the other features
around the planet.
Does
On Thursday 03 Jun 2010 09:01:27 Philip Stubbs wrote:
On 3 June 2010 08:05, Micah li...@j12.org wrote:
If you want to find a place by name including quite small localities use
http://www.gazetteer.co.uk/
This will give you a tile ref.
You may need to chop off 2nd 4th numerical digit
Hello everyone,
In case of interest here:
There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from
the Ordnance Survey on OpenSpace and the release of free data at my work
place tomorrow.
It's at Room HC029, Southampton Solent University, 6pm for 6.30pm.
Nick
Can't quite make that one .. but it sounds great. Any chance of a YouTube'd
version appearing?
Phil
On 11 May 2010 09:51, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
Hello everyone,
In case of interest here:
There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from
the
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Hello everyone,
In case of interest here:
There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from
the Ordnance Survey on OpenSpace and the release of free data at my work
place tomorrow.
It's at Room HC029, Southampton Solent University, 6pm for
I have welcomed the release of Ordnance Survey open data especially Street
View. I would have liked them to release Mastermap and Address Layer 2, but
keeping within realms of likelihood good so far.
I posted about it at:
While I understand what you're saying I think it's also important to
recognize that we all have different ways to contribute. Some
potential OSM contributors may not be interested in on-the-ground
surveying, and some aren't interested in chair mapping.
Agreed from my point of view. I only
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 17:25 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
If someone who is completely new to OSM sees the streets in their area
complete, they may assume the map is complete and there's nothing for
them to do.
As a lurker, and someone that would be keen to contribute, can I suggest
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:
I'm in line with this view too. We cannot assume that the OS mapping is
correct, it may or may not be current or accurate, so it's useful as a guide
in the absence of any other verification source.
Hi Henry
As a lurker, and someone that would be keen to contribute, can I suggest
somewhere where effort would be useful - A simple mechanism to attach
attributes to streets. Perhaps a web interface with those incomplete
streets highlighted. This would be low hanging fruit to a local, with a
On 1 April 2010 09:41, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
It's up and available:
http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/licence/docs/licence.pdf
The main wrinkle seems to be this part on their requirement for attribution:
include the same acknowledgement requirement in any
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 15:28, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote:
I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on
over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area
blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to
To whomever can answer:
The fact that the following link is up on the wiki:
http://edgemaster.dev.openstreetmap.org/streetview_tiles/ossv.html?zoom=15
http://edgemaster.dev.openstreetmap.org/streetview_tiles/ossv.html?zoom=15;
lat=60.16917lon=-1.16243layers=BTF
On 05/04/2010 12:31, Tim Francois wrote:
Does this mean we can (gasp!) start tracing in Potlatch and JOSM? If so,
what's the final verdict on source=* tags?
Hold your horses, please. See:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata
for a summary of what's happened so far, what
...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
From: Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 12:58
On 05/04/2010 12:31, Tim Francois wrote:
Does this mean we can (gasp!) start tracing in Potlatch and JOSM? If so,
what's
are.
Thanks,
Steve
- Original Message -
From: Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:58:29 +0100
On 05/04/2010 12:31, Tim Francois wrote:
Does this mean we can (gasp!) start
Um, what he said. That's what I really meant with my previous rant!
--- On Mon, 5/4/10, Seventy 7 seven...@operamail.com wrote:
From: Seventy 7 seven...@operamail.com
Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 13:32
... but there's
:
From: Seventy 7 seven...@operamail.com
Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 13:32
... but there's a feeling that if we just dive in straight away and start
tracing/importing willy-nilly we'll just shoot ourselves in the foot
Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 14:10
Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we
can't start tracing?
The only thing I can think
So the solution is to just leave it blank?
I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on over and
start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area blank when we have
this fantastic opportunity to populate seems silly, no? This far down the line,
it doesn't
Tim François wrote:
So the solution is to just leave it blank?
Maybe the soution is to encourage people to treat OSM as an outdoor
sport, gathering GPS tracks and LOTS of extra data that no one else's
maps have, rather than an armchair hobby copying other people's maps.
Cheers, Chris
P.S.
On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote:
I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on
over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area
blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to populate seems silly,
no? This far down the line, it doesn't
On 5 April 2010 16:28, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote:
On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote:
I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on
over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area
blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to
On 05/04/2010 16:38, Tim François wrote:
So then the question is: what's more of a problem? Features with no
name, or no features at all? Personally, I'd rather see the road on the
map with no name than not see a road at all, especially when using the
maps for in-car navigation.
Which would
I thought it was very interesting to look at the OS and OSM overlaid on
each other on the WMS link someone posted.
1. I was very impressed with how really accurate OSM is compared to OS
where I know it has been done systematically
2. I was disappointed to see how out of date the OS data is -
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
The idea of OSM, as I see it, is to create a free-as-in-speech map of the
world. All data which goes into the map must be the same sort of 'free'.
Whether that be surveying or copying other people's maps is irrelevant -
On Monday 05 April 2010, Andy Allan wrote:
It's not irrelevant. There are many of us who believe, and have much
evidence to show, that making the map in a certain way produces
superior results.
This may be true when we are the best available source of Free data for a
country, but there is the
Jason Cunningham wrote:
Sent: 05 April 2010 7:53 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
On 5 April 2010 14:10, John Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com wrote:
Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we
can't start tracing
Phil James wrote:
Aah! Thanks Richard,
I've had a closer look now (I'd only quickly skimmed the SD folder).
I took the file numbers to be the same as the sheet references on the
First Series sets - don't know why - especially as they are derived from
1:50k data!
Just as a matter of
Please slap me if I'm either jumping the gun, or duplicating here, but
I don't think anyone has covered this publicly already.
I have had a quick poke around, and the meridian2 data seems to use a
UID called OSODR (Ordnance Survey Oscar Database Reference). After
some further poking around, it
I've had a look at the height data, and it appears that it is incomplete
(many tiles are missing altogether). Does anyone know why? I realise
that it is the only dataset that won't be updated, but presumably they
have a full set. I haven't been able to find an explanation, and the
Richard wrote:
OS have also just announced what VectorMap District, available
for free
at the start of May, is going to look like:
Pretty, but still no field boundaries :(
So, I'm sending my wife armed with Blackadder's Provisional First
Series lists to this weekend's boot sales (the first
'Cos I was just playing! ...and it was late...
The other reason for not counting was that my search was too simple - as
well as the abbrev 'mus' you get loads of names containing mus.
You are welcome to have a go - I think the web interface is still working.
Graham
Graham
Ed Loach wrote:
Sent: 03 April 2010 7:35 AM
To: 'Richard Fairhurst'
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Richard wrote:
OS have also just announced what VectorMap District, available
for free
at the start of May, is going to look like:
Pretty, but still
On 1 April 2010 09:39, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote:
As Andy says, I say we start with getting boundary data fixed up from
Boundary Line and then look at Vector Map District in a month's time and
decide what the next step is
I agree with this; especially as boundary data is hard to
-Original Message-
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org
[mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Russ Phillips
Sent: 02 April 2010 11:09
To: OSM Talk-GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
On 1 April 2010 09:39, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote:
As Andy says, I say we
[mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst
Sent: 02 April 2010 12:35
To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Tim Francois wrote:
Hollowell, Church Brampton, Ravensthorpe, Spratton and Chapel
Brampton. It seems to work OK, but manually lining up
: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
To: Tim Francois sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: 'talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)' talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Friday, 2 April, 2010, 12:55
Tim Francois wrote:
Ah, I see - I've been following the mailing list but must have missed that
memo. No problem, I'll hold fire! :)
(Out
To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:34:56 +0100
Tim Francois wrote:
Hollowell, Church Brampton, Ravensthorpe, Spratton and Chapel Brampton. It
seems to work OK, but manually lining up the tiles takes a bit
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer
Ah yes - I hadn't tried 'Fm' - that does give a lot.
I was disappointed with Museum - only 16! (you do get a few more with
'mus', but not a lot).
Maybe I will try a comparison with OSM - will just be a bit
We're generating StreetView tiles at the moment and some people have
already been tracing. :) Small hiccup in the generation process meant
that we've just had to restart (there were a couple of blank areas
appearing at 'sheet' boundaries) but it's going well.
OS have also just announced what
Richard wrote:
Please, have patience. We will have the maps reprojected for you into a
background layer in double quick time.
I understand that the licence is compatible with OSM's current licence,
but has anyone thought about whether it is compatible with ODBL? Should
we do this before we
I was disappointed with ***some word*** - only **some number**! (you do
get a few more with **some abbreviation**, but not a lot)
When people say that, it seems they have also searched for the abbreviation.
Why doesn't anyone give a number of abbreviations they found?
--
Gregory
On 1 Apr 2010, at 01:16, Phil Monger wrote:
Hi Tom,
Not sure I agree that Streetview is 'horrible' - as a free base map it will
rival or beat any of the others I have seen. This is even more true for rural
areas.
I am aware most of the raster stuff got left out, but streetview *is*
relations.
Cheers
Andy
-Original Message-
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Phil Monger
Sent: 01 April 2010 1:17 AM
To: talk-gb
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Hi Tom,
Not sure I agree that Streetview is 'horrible
On 01/04/10 01:16, Phil Monger wrote:
Not sure I agree that Streetview is 'horrible' - as a free base map it
will rival or beat any of the others I have seen. This is even more true
for rural areas.
Well the cartography is horrible - the data is fine I'm sure. There just
isn't much detail
As Andy says, I say we start with getting boundary data fixed up from
Boundary Line and then look at Vector Map District in a month's time and
decide what the next step is
I agree with this; especially as boundary data is hard to come by any other
way
In the mean time, can't we just import
On 1 April 2010 09:25, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Gregory wrote:
Without restrictions? Does that mean no attribution, it sounds like PD.
Or does it mean they haven't told us the exact license yet but it will
be nice?
The latter, I think.
On 01/04/10 09:39, Richard Bullock wrote:
You could have a database with all of the vector data - which gets
rendered - and is displayed as a different layer along with the OS raster
stuff. Could use those as a WMS layer for JOSM/Potlatch etc. The data itself
could be accessible via an API.
And again, I sent this to Richard instead of Talk-GB
On 1 April 2010 09:44, Russ Phillips r...@phillipsuk.org wrote:
On 1 April 2010 09:25, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Gregory wrote:
Without restrictions? Does that mean no attribution, it sounds like PD.
Or does it mean they
On 1 April 2010 00:47, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:
is encourage people to rapidly trace this to form a base map, then set upon
the task of checking it for accuracy.
But I want to go out on my bike and map, I spend enough time at the
computer as it is, without sitting
Regarding the OS datasets, here is a suggestion: use it is to update the
name tag and fill in the missing gaps in attributes. For most of the
datasets, the quality of the positional information (that's the
geometry) is lower than that of OSM and it will make much more sense
just to identify
Meridian covers the countryside - but the data is derived at lower
resolution than in urban area, and some small roads are missing.
Muki
On 01/04/2010 12:16, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
From the grough site:
http://www.grough.co.uk/magazine/2010/04/01/no-change-for-walkers-maps-as-os-frees-data
Does that mean there's nothing at all for countryside users in the OS
data being released? Or does Meridian have it?
Sorry to follow up my own post - it would appear not.
A real shame about the lack of countryside data in this free OS dataset.
The Meridian data doesn't really contain anything
-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Nick Whitelegg
Sent: 01 April 2010 12:23 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
Does that mean there's nothing at all for countryside users in the OS
data being released? Or does
Hi Andy,
I'm not sure the OS has reliable footpath data for the countryside
anyway.
Last time I chatted with the OS about this they were interested in
whether
OSM could work with them to update rural ROW footpaths because they don't
survey them anymore.
Really? - that's interesting. Do you
On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 12:22 +0100, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Does that mean there's nothing at all for countryside users in the OS
data being released? Or does Meridian have it?
Sorry to follow up my own post - it would appear not.
A real shame about the lack of countryside data in this free
Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] wrote:
Sent: 01 April 2010 3:06 PM
To: Kai Krueger
Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); 'talk-gb'
Subject: Re: Ordnance Survey
On 01/04/10 14:42, Kai Krueger wrote:
Perhaps even easier and a bigger win, would be to import the postcode
data. It is only
A lot more farms are there as . Fm
It can't be that all farms are listed
as running the query only reveals 372
points with farm in the title.
Probably not enough to get too excited
about, maybe just deal with them manually?
___
Talk-GB
On 1 April 2010 22:40, Graham Jones grahamjones...@googlemail.com wrote:
I have been playing with the Ordnance Survey 50k gazetteer to see if it
looks useful (very simple search tool
at http://maps2.webhop.net/openos/gaz/www/doSearch.php).
As a 'point of interest' database it does not have
For those who don't live on Twitter:
The UK Government has just announced its decision on freeing Ordnance
Survey data. Full document is at
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/corporate/pdf/1528263.pdf
Quick summary of what'll be released:
- medium-resolution vector data (Meridian2),
...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
For those who don't live on Twitter:
The UK Government has just announced its decision on freeing Ordnance
Survey data. Full document is at
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/corporate/pdf/1528263.pdf
Quick summary
-GB] Ordnance Survey
For those who don't live on Twitter:
The UK Government has just announced its decision on freeing Ordnance
Survey data. Full document is at
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/corporate/pdf/1528263.pdf
Quick summary of what'll be released:
- medium-resolution
Thanks very much Richard. I had been sitting in my GIS class this morning
thinking about the due announcement as the lecturer mentioned OS OpenSpace,
and said OS is like the Canada and USA mapping agencies. More on my blog
http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2010/03/teaching-neogeography
March 2010 9:36 PM
To: t...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey
For those who don't live on Twitter:
The UK Government has just announced its decision on freeing Ordnance
Survey data. Full document is at
http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents
On 31 March 2010 15:16, Tristan Thomas tristan.tho...@wikinewsie.orgwrote:
As a rare contributor, sorry if my questions seem a bit obvious. What does
this actually mean? ie. will OSM now have every single street in it (once
imported obviously) and so contributors won't be able to contribute
The streetview announcement is FANTASTIC news for OSM in the UK - as the
database is pretty much exactly what is being built - roads / streets /
names , etc.
We can surely get this as a backdrop layer, like the Yahoo imagery?
A bulk import wouldn't be possible, as this is raster data. (Though
On 01/04/10 00:06, Phil Monger wrote:
The streetview announcement is FANTASTIC news for OSM in the UK - as the
database is pretty much exactly what is being built - roads / streets /
names , etc.
StreetView is horrible - the vector data will be far more useful.
We can surely get this as a
Hi Tom,
Not sure I agree that Streetview is 'horrible' - as a free base map it will
rival or beat any of the others I have seen. This is even more true for
rural areas.
I am aware most of the raster stuff got left out, but streetview *is* raster
- it says as much in the PDF.
What we would want
Phil Monger wrote:
The field boundaries on 25k maps are a derivative layer based on the
larger scale surveys - they come from data from as recently as 2009 and
not older than 2002.
You're 'avin' a larf, surely?
Strictly speaking, a line on a 25k map is a linear topographical
feature
I wouldn't for a moment expect everyone to agree on the 1:25k and
1:50k stuff. That's ok, you have the right to be wrong grins, ducks
and runs
But, more seriously, I would draw your attention away from that and to
the point about the Ordnance Survey's aerial imagery:
- OS has good aerial
Richard your views on the rasters seem a little bizarre, harking back to a
golden era where cartography was respected by the good folk of the land and had
pride of place... etc.
Basically you're shamelessly protecting your own pretty small industry from
competition with a lot of waffle about
On Jan 14, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Andy Allan wrote:
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Though custom cartography is the right answer for many applications, it
will find it difficult to compete with the free, universally-recognised
cartography of the OS.
Are
On Jan 14, 2010, at 11:40 AM, David Earl wrote:
On 14/01/2010 18:27, Dave F. wrote:
Andy, The taxpayers have already paid for it, many times over. I resent
having to pay £7.50 for a map I've already financed to construct.
As I've paid for it, I think it should be given to me free of charge.
SteveC wrote:
Basically you're shamelessly protecting your own pretty small industry
What, magazine publishing? :p
Looking forward to your, and others', response to DCLG.
cheers
Richard
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On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
SteveC wrote:
Basically you're shamelessly protecting your own pretty small industry
What, magazine publishing? :p
No, carto
Looking forward to your, and others', response to DCLG.
Yeah, it's very cool you've put it together and I
On Jan 18, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Andy Allan wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:21 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
I think you have the wrong vision that you'll be competing with free maps,
just the same as the big guys are terrified of competing with a free OSM.
The value just moves to
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:33 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Richard's a socialist so I can see him arguing for weird government
monopolies on making pinball machines for one-legged immigrants living in
wales or whatever, but what are you arguing this for? What product will be
nuked
On Jan 18, 2010, at 10:38 AM, Andy Allan wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:33 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Richard's a socialist so I can see him arguing for weird government
monopolies on making pinball machines for one-legged immigrants living in
wales or whatever, but what are
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:41 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
Oh don't be so sensitive, Richard and I go back and forth on this all the
time. I can understand why he argues for strange monopolies given his
politcal ideals. Is that better?
It's a bit of a recurring theme on these lists
Wading in (though for the purposes of a putative OSMF response, we can just
leave this whole argument to one side and focus on the data)...
2010/1/18 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com
I didn't say I wanted a monopoly. I'd rather either
a) the government (i.e. the OS now, and doubly so if they
On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Andy Allan wrote:
This isn't me saying that I disapprove of a commercial company giving
away a whole load of raster maps for free, I'm saying I don't think
the government should be funding it.
Okay so you feel rasters are a special case, different to vectors.
On Jan 18, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Tom Chance wrote:
Wading in (though for the purposes of a putative OSMF response, we can just
leave this whole argument to one side and focus on the data)...
2010/1/18 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com
I didn't say I wanted a monopoly. I'd rather either
a)
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