Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey National Grid maps of Edinburgh

2014-08-22 Thread Eric Grosso
Hi all, Thanks Rob for that. Chris Fleet (NLS) asked me to announce to the OSM community that the NLS is also adding the Ordnance Survey Maps - 25 inch 2nd and later editions, Scotland, 1892-1949, which is "the most detailed topographic mapping for all the inhabited regions of Scotland from the 1

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey National Grid maps of Edinburgh

2014-08-11 Thread SK53
I met Richard Rodger who is leading the MESH project at Edinburgh University. Addresses in central Edinburgh have changed so little in 200 years that they are able to use OSM to map where attorneys were located in the middle of the 19th Century. The historical addresses were acquired from Business

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey National Grid maps of Edinburgh

2014-08-11 Thread Donald Noble
Thanks Rob, The alignment matches well with both bing and what is already on OSM (although this may largely be derived). Also pleasing to note that the addresses I have surveyed match those on the OS map - don't suppose they change all that often. Cheers, Donald On 10 August 2014 00:04, Rob Nic

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey National Grid maps of Edinburgh

2014-08-09 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi all, particularly those folk mapping up in Scotland, The National Library of Scotland has added the earliest editions of Ordnance Survey National Grid maps covering the Edinburgh environs to their online map offerings. http://maps.nls.uk/additions.html#28 What's so special about these maps is

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey OpenData Licence - request to OS required

2012-06-10 Thread Rob Nickerson
Hi Mike, [posted to legal-talk and talk-gb; responses to legal-talk or personal email please] I understand that you have had previous correspondence with Ornance Survey and on requesting use of the OpenData you received the response that they have "no objections to geodata derived in part from OS

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey - State of the Map Scotland

2011-07-29 Thread Bob Kerr
Hi, Is there anyone here that has connections with OS. We are hoping that we might get some representatives along to State of the Map Scotland. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_Scotland_2011 We are hoping that we can start a discussion on how to use the OS brand and   Openst

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread SomeoneElse
On 24/03/2011 17:13, Kevin Peat wrote: On 24 March 2011 16:56, Ed Avis > wrote: You could use something like designation=public_footpath highway=no note=Although a right of way, there is no path on the ground. Would work I guess. The only p

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Luke Smith
Aside from the obvious that the PRoWs came before the CRoW act, the rights are slightly different. PRoWs can't be closed very easily, they're highways and therefore can't be restricted (by locked gates, etc), and obviously bridleways allow you to ride a horse or bicycle on them. Open access l

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 March 2011 16:56, Ed Avis wrote: > > You could use something like > >designation=public_footpath >highway=no >note=Although a right of way, there is no path on the ground. > > Would work I guess. The only problem is that if there is no path on the ground the only way you can eas

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread TimSC
Hi again, I found the response from Surrey Council Council to my FOI. They seem to take a stricter view than other people have experienced from other government bodies. If we can get a few examples of this apparent contradiction in legal interpretation and perhaps OS to officially state thei

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Ed Avis
Kevin Peat writes: >It's common to see a PRoW on a map that follows a perfectly straight line >across >moorland. > >Dartmoor has some of these rights of way without any actual path on the ground. >I wouldn't want to see these in OSM unless they could somehow be marked as >non-navigable and rend

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Harris
Kevin Your observation is correct. Especially in open access land where the definitive line has been lazily drawn with a ruler, but in general too, I would record where the path is on the ground (if it can be seen!) and - if I have copyright-free information - I would add the numbering and l

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread TimSC
On 24/03/11 16:01, Mike Harris wrote: Council contacts are absolutely clear that OS makes no claim to PRoW data - they access it from the Highway Authorities in the same way as anyone else and are allowed to put it on their maps (although they add careful legal disclaimers as to its non-authori

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Harris
Peter Your first two paragraphs are factually correct i.e. as to the precedence of the Definitive Statement over the Definitive Map. I would share your interpretation of the new derived data rules as to the effect that has on freedom of use - although I might go a tad further in arguing that

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Kevin Peat
On 24 March 2011 16:08, Luke Smith wrote: > Good points there - that description is pretty useless without a map to go > with it. > > Previously, I would have argued that in some cases the fact there was a > right of way was important. It's common to see a PRoW on a map that follows > a perfectly

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM
On 24/03/2011 15:42, Peter Miller wrote: You make a good point. As far as I am aware the OS now allow derived works for things drawn on their maps which weren't on the base map. In the case of rights of way some of them are of course are on the background OS layer which is a limitation (see e

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Mike Harris
On 24/03/2011 16:01, Mike Harris wrote: Peter I think the attitude of Councils varies a bit from place to place. For example, two Councils (qua Highway Authorities) that I deal with on a very regular basis both state that the definitive map data is available for public use so long as we do

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Luke Smith
Good points there - that description is pretty useless without a map to go with it. Previously, I would have argued that in some cases the fact there was a right of way was important. It's common to see a PRoW on a map that follows a perfectly straight line across moorland. There's no path the

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread James Davis
On 24 Mar 2011, at 13:56, Luke Smith wrote: > As I understand it, there is both a written record of where the rights of way > go and the definitive map is in addition, with the written record taking > precedence? My experience is that it probably depends, and that the statement and map are ver

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 March 2011 13:56, Luke Smith wrote: > As I understand it, there is both a written record of where the rights of > way go and the definitive map is in addition, with the written record taking > precedence? > > So if a local authority is drawing their map, and it's offset from the line > of

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Luke Smith
As I understand it, there is both a written record of where the rights of way go and the definitive map is in addition, with the written record taking precedence? So if a local authority is drawing their map, and it's offset from the line of a wall for example from OS MasterMap, as the written

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 23 March 2011 19:25, TimSC wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is part of an email I sent to a few councils regarding rights of way > data (footpaths, bridleways, etc): > > > I have a big and fairly complicated request regarding the definitive map. I > am interested in making data more accessible to th

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-24 Thread Tom Chance
I would try to secure a face-to-face meeting with your council's GIS team, and separately with any teams that are custodians of other data you're interested in. Ask to talk generally about OpenStreetMap and raise this in the meeting. I've got a reasonable relationship now with a few people in Sout

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-23 Thread TimSC
Hi all, Here is part of an email I sent to a few councils regarding rights of way data (footpaths, bridleways, etc): I have a big and fairly complicated request regarding the definitive map. I am interested in making data more accessible to the public (as encouraged by central government [1]

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-07 Thread Matt Williams
On 7 March 2011 18:17, Ed Avis wrote: > For those that haven't seen, the Ordnance Survey is going to provide local > authorities with access to its maps free of charge from April 1st. > >  /oswebsite/business/sectors/government/publicpsmafaqs.html> > > This doesn

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Public Sector Mapping Agreement

2011-03-07 Thread Ed Avis
For those that haven't seen, the Ordnance Survey is going to provide local authorities with access to its maps free of charge from April 1st. This doesn't directly affect OSM but it will provide tougher

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2011-01-19 Thread Kev js1982
Are the scripts which were used to generate the tiles from the StreetView data files available anywhere? I am trying to work out how to generate the Streetview tiles myself and am struggling to understand everything (falling at the first hurdle at present unfortunately Kev. osm@countach:~/osm/op

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Opendata recent releases

2010-11-27 Thread Robert Scott
On Thursday 25 November 2010, Bunny wrote: > The latest release of OS Streetview® is now available 1/11/10 > The November release of OS LocatorTM is now available 16/11/10 > The November release of Code-Point Open is now available 18/11/10 > See: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Opendata recent releases

2010-11-25 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool! I from looking at whats available, I grabbed a random spot / tile area from the os vectormap http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/products/vectormap/district/docs/feature_code_list_v1-0.pdf I'll be cross-referencing these map features with the other features around the planet. Does an

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Opendata recent releases

2010-11-25 Thread Robert Scott
On Thursday 25 November 2010, Bunny wrote: > The latest release of OS Streetview® is now available 1/11/10 > The November release of OS LocatorTM is now available 16/11/10 > The November release of Code-Point Open is now available 18/11/10 > See: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Opendata recent releases

2010-11-25 Thread Bunny
The latest release of OS Streetview® is now available 1/11/10 The November release of OS LocatorTM is now available 16/11/10 The November release of Code-Point Open is now available 18/11/10 See: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/ -- -- ___

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey National Grid Eastings & Northings Re: OS Tile Ref look up by place name Re: Building with mapseg

2010-06-03 Thread Micah
On Thursday 03 Jun 2010 09:01:27 Philip Stubbs wrote: > On 3 June 2010 08:05, Micah wrote: > > If you want to find a place by name including quite small localities use > > > > http://www.gazetteer.co.uk/ > > > > This will give you a tile ref. > > You may need to chop off 2nd & 4th numerical digit

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey talk tomorrow

2010-05-11 Thread Lester Caine
Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Hello everyone, > > In case of interest here: > > There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from > the Ordnance Survey on OpenSpace and the release of free data at my work > place tomorrow. > > It's at Room HC029, Southampton Solent University, 6pm f

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey talk tomorrow

2010-05-11 Thread Phil Monger
Can't quite make that one .. but it sounds great. Any chance of a YouTube'd version appearing? Phil On 11 May 2010 09:51, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Hello everyone, > > In case of interest here: > > There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from > the Ordnance Survey on Op

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey talk tomorrow

2010-05-11 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone, In case of interest here: There is a British Computer Society talk given by a couple of guys from the Ordnance Survey on OpenSpace and the release of free data at my work place tomorrow. It's at Room HC029, Southampton Solent University, 6pm for 6.30pm. Nick _

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Street View tiles.

2010-05-03 Thread Micah
I have welcomed the release of Ordnance Survey open data especially Street View. I would have liked them to release Mastermap and Address Layer 2, but keeping within realms of likelihood good so far. I posted about it at: http://blog.j12.org/2010/04/some-ordnance-survey-royal-mail-data-is-freed

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-07 Thread Tom Evans
> While I understand what you're saying I think it's also important to > recognize that we all have different ways to contribute. Some > potential OSM contributors may not be interested in on-the-ground > surveying, and some aren't interested in chair mapping. Agreed from my point of view. I only

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 15:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote: >> I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on >> over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area >> blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to populate s

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Tim François
be. Also: there's an IRC channel? Don't tell me anymore, otherwise I'll never get any work done... Thanks Tim --- On Tue, 6/4/10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: From: Richard Fairhurst Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: "talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)" Date: Tuesday,

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tim François wrote: > Also, be aware that a discussion is also ongoing in the discussion > page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Ordnance_Survey_Opendata#Attribution > (you may be aware, just making sure!) ...and we had quite a lengthy discussion about it on IRC earlier, too. The

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Tim François
(OSM Talk GB) wrote: From: Robert Whittaker (OSM Talk GB) Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 6 April, 2010, 18:50 On 1 April 2010 09:41, Tom Chance wrote: > It's up and available: > http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/l

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM Talk GB)
On 1 April 2010 09:41, Tom Chance wrote: > It's up and available: > http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/opendata/licence/docs/licence.pdf > > The main wrinkle seems to be this part on their requirement for attribution: > > "include the same acknowledgement requirement in any sub-licenses of

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread David Ellams
Hi Henry > As a lurker, and someone that would be keen to contribute, can I suggest > somewhere where effort would be useful - A simple mechanism to attach > attributes to streets. Perhaps a web interface with those incomplete > streets highlighted. This would be low hanging fruit to a local, with

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > I'm in line with this view too. We cannot assume that the OS mapping is > correct, it may or may not be current or accurate, so it's useful as a guide > in the absence of any other verification source. > > Streetview as a pr

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Henry Gomersall
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 09:26 +0100, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > You can do that now of course. If you are local to some unnamed > streets or > incomplete mapping then you can take a walk with > http://walking-papers.org/ > to gather street names and additional data. > I've looked at

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Henry Gomersall wrote: >Sent: 06 April 2010 9:07 AM >To: Jonathan Bennett >Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > >On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 17:25 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote: >> If someone who is completely new to OSM sees the streets in thei

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-06 Thread Henry Gomersall
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 17:25 +0100, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > If someone who is completely new to OSM sees the streets in their area > complete, they may assume the map is complete and there's nothing for > them to do. As a lurker, and someone that would be keen to contribute, can I suggest somewh

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Landform Panorama data

2010-04-05 Thread Thomas Wood
Phil James wrote: > Aah! Thanks Richard, > I've had a closer look now (I'd only quickly skimmed the SD folder). > I took the file numbers to be the same as the sheet references on the > First Series sets - don't know why - especially as they are derived from > 1:50k data! > Just as a matter of in

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Landform Panorama data

2010-04-05 Thread Phil James
Aah! Thanks Richard, I've had a closer look now (I'd only quickly skimmed the SD folder). I took the file numbers to be the same as the sheet references on the First Series sets - don't know why - especially as they are derived from 1:50k data! Just as a matter of interest, I'm viewing the files

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: >Sent: 05 April 2010 5:45 PM >To: Jonathan Bennett >Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > snip > >Personally I don't see the attraction of just sitting for hours in front >of a computer duplicating someone else'

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Jason Cunningham wrote: >Sent: 05 April 2010 7:53 PM >To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > > >On 5 April 2010 14:10, John Robert Peterson wrote: > > > Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
eetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- >boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Matt Williams >Sent: 05 April 2010 7:24 PM >To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > >On 5 April 2010 18:43, Andy Allan wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Tim François &

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Jason Cunningham
On 5 April 2010 14:10, John Robert Peterson wrote: > Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we > can't start tracing? > > Thanks, > JR > > JR, you might spend hours tracing Streetview images only to find someone replaces it with 'VectorMap District' vector data in a couple

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Scott
On Monday 05 April 2010, Andy Allan wrote: > It's not irrelevant. There are many of us who believe, and have much > evidence to show, that making the map in a certain way produces > superior results. This may be true when we are the best available source of Free data for a country, but there is t

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Matt Williams
On 5 April 2010 18:43, Andy Allan wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Tim François wrote: >> >> The idea of OSM, as I see it, is to create a free-as-in-speech map of the >> world. All data which goes into the map must be the same sort of 'free'. >> Whether that be surveying or "copying oth

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Tim François wrote: > > The idea of OSM, as I see it, is to create a free-as-in-speech map of the > world. All data which goes into the map must be the same sort of 'free'. > Whether that be surveying or "copying other people's maps" is irrelevant - > the end goa

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread David Earl
I thought it was very interesting to look at the OS and OSM overlaid on each other on the WMS link someone posted. 1. I was very impressed with how really accurate OSM is compared to OS where I know it has been done systematically 2. I was disappointed to see how out of date the OS data is - st

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
majority then I'll back down. Cheers Tim --- On Mon, 5/4/10, Jonathan Bennett wrote: From: Jonathan Bennett Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 17:25 On 05/04/2010 16:38, Tim François wrote: > So then the question is: what&#x

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/04/2010 16:38, Tim François wrote: > So then the question is: what's more of a problem? Features with no > name, or no features at all? Personally, I'd rather see the road on the > map with no name than not see a road at all, especially when using the > maps for in-car navigation. Which woul

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Matt Williams
On 5 April 2010 16:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote: > >> I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on >> over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area >> blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to populate seems

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
So then the question is: what's more of a problem? Features with no name, or no features at all? Personally, I'd rather see the road on the map with no name than not see a road at all, especially when using the maps for in-car navigation. The pro with the StreetView data for your specific examp

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tom Hughes
On 05/04/10 15:43, Tim François wrote: > I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on > over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area > blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to populate seems silly, > no? This far down the line, it doesn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
he country as we have the data and resources to do so *now*. Or at least we should be discussing why we can and can't, which we are now - progress!! Thanks Tim --- On Mon, 5/4/10, Chris Hill wrote: From: Chris Hill Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Date: Mo

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Hill
Tim François wrote: > So the solution is to just leave it blank? > Maybe the soution is to encourage people to treat OSM as an outdoor sport, gathering GPS tracks and LOTS of extra data that no one else's maps have, rather than an armchair hobby copying other people's maps. Cheers, Chris P.S. T

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
So the solution is to just leave it blank? I understand that with an area mapped there is less impetus to head on over and start making tracks and surveying. But just leaving the area blank when we have this fantastic opportunity to populate seems silly, no? This far down the line, it doesn't l

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/04/10 12:02, Tim Francois wrote: > I haven't done all the roads yet, nor named all of them, nor added any > source tags (not sure which one yet). My intention is just to get the roads > in to this forgotten area, for someone else to go verify them with a GPS > later (though judging by the la

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
erson Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: "Tim François" Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 14:10 Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we can't start tracing? The only thing I can think of is to make sure that we are ver

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread John Robert Peterson
; > From: Seventy 7 > Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 13:32 > > > ... but there's a feeling that if we just dive in straight away and start > > tracing/importing willy-nilly we'll just shoot ourselves

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
Um, what he said. That's what I really meant with my previous rant! --- On Mon, 5/4/10, Seventy 7 wrote: From: Seventy 7 Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 13:32 > ... but there's a feeling that if we just dive in

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Seventy 7
bout what's actually happening at the moment and what the outcomes of these assessments are. Thanks, Steve > - Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Bennett" > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 12:58:29

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim François
ennett wrote: From: Jonathan Bennett Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, 5 April, 2010, 12:58 On 05/04/2010 12:31, Tim Francois wrote: > Does this mean we can (gasp!) start tracing in Potlatch and JOSM? If so, > what's the final verdict on s

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 05/04/2010 12:31, Tim Francois wrote: > Does this mean we can (gasp!) start tracing in Potlatch and JOSM? If so, > what's the final verdict on source=* tags? Hold your horses, please. See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ordnance_Survey_Opendata for a summary of what's happened so far, wha

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Tim Francois
To whomever can answer: The fact that the following link is up on the wiki: http://edgemaster.dev.openstreetmap.org/streetview_tiles/ossv.html?zoom=15 &lat=60.16917&lon=-1.16243&lay

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey data matching

2010-04-04 Thread Gregory
In the time it takes to read and do all that you could: Colour all OSM roads red with transparency 50%, colour all the OS roads blue with transparency 50%. Ignore what is purple, because that is where the datasets are the same, also ignore anything close together. Although you wouldn't think so, th

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Landform Panorama data

2010-04-04 Thread Richard Bullock
> > I've had a look at the height data, and it appears that it is incomplete > (many tiles are missing altogether). Does anyone know why? I realise > that it is the only dataset that won't be updated, but presumably they > have a full set. I haven't been able to find an explanation, and the > infor

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey data matching

2010-04-04 Thread John Robert Peterson
Please slap me if I'm either jumping the gun, or duplicating here, but I don't think anyone has covered this publicly already. I have had a quick poke around, and the meridian2 data seems to use a UID called OSODR (Ordnance Survey Oscar Database Reference). After some further poking around, it see

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-03 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed Loach wrote: >Sent: 03 April 2010 7:35 AM >To: 'Richard Fairhurst' >Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > >Richard wrote: > >> OS have also just announced what VectorMap District, available >> for free >> at t

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Landform Panorama data

2010-04-03 Thread Phil James
I've had a look at the height data, and it appears that it is incomplete (many tiles are missing altogether). Does anyone know why? I realise that it is the only dataset that won't be updated, but presumably they have a full set. I haven't been able to find an explanation, and the information a

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-03 Thread Graham Jones
'Cos I was just playing! ...and it was late... The other reason for not counting was that my search was too simple - as well as the abbrev 'mus' you get loads of names containing mus. You are welcome to have a go - I think the web interface is still working. Graham Graham J

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Ed Loach
Richard wrote: > OS have also just announced what VectorMap District, available > for free > at the start of May, is going to look like: Pretty, but still no field boundaries :( So, I'm sending my wife armed with Blackadder's Provisional First Series lists to this weekend's boot sales (the first

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-02 Thread Gregory
I was disappointed with "***some word***" - only **some number**! (you do > get a few more with **some abbreviation**, but not a lot) > When people say that, it seems they have also searched for the abbreviation. Why doesn't anyone give a number of abbreviations they found? -- Gregory o...@livin

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread David Ellams
Richard wrote: > Please, have patience. We will have the maps reprojected for you into a > background layer in double quick time. I understand that the licence is compatible with OSM's current licence, but has anyone thought about whether it is compatible with ODBL? Should we do this before we b

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
We're generating StreetView tiles at the moment and some people have already been tracing. :) Small hiccup in the generation process meant that we've just had to restart (there were a couple of blank areas appearing at 'sheet' boundaries) but it's going well. OS have also just announced what Ve

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-02 Thread Peter Reed
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer Ah yes - I hadn't tried 'Fm' - that does give a lot. I was disappointed with "Museum" - only 16! (you do get a few more with 'mus', but not a lot). Maybe I will try a compa

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-02 Thread Graham Jones
Ah yes - I hadn't tried 'Fm' - that does give a lot. I was disappointed with "Museum" - only 16! (you do get a few more with 'mus', but not a lot). Maybe I will try a comparison with OSM - will just be a bit tricky with the abbreviations. Graham. On 1 April 2010 23:16, Peter Reed wrote: > A

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Seventy 7
Fairhurst" > To: "talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)" > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey > Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 12:34:56 +0100 > > > Tim Francois wrote: > > Hollowell, Church Brampton, Ravensthorpe, Spratton and Chapel Brampton. It > > seems to work OK,

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Tim François
Looks interesting! I have some spare time, computing capacity and programming experience, so if you want me to help I can. Otherwise, I'm waiting patiently! Thanks Tim --- On Fri, 2/4/10, Richard Fairhurst wrote: From: Richard Fairhurst Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey To:

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tim Francois wrote: > Ah, I see - I've been following the mailing list but must have missed that > memo. No problem, I'll hold fire! :) > > (Out of interest, how is an image tile reprojected? Any good references I > could read? Just curious...) A wonderful suite of programs called gdal is your fri

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Thomas Wood
s I > could read? Just curious...) > > Tim > > -Original Message- > From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org > [mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst > Sent: 02 April 2010 12:35 > To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB]

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Tim Francois
eetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 02 April 2010 12:35 To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Tim Francois wrote: > Hollowell, Church Brampton, Ravensthorpe, Spratton and Chapel > Brampton. It seems to work OK, but

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tim Francois wrote: > Hollowell, Church Brampton, Ravensthorpe, Spratton and Chapel Brampton. It > seems to work OK, but manually lining up the tiles takes a bit of time. Please, have patience. We will have the maps reprojected for you into a background layer in double quick time. cheers Richard

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Tim Francois
k I'm stepping over some boundaries Tim -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Russ Phillips Sent: 02 April 2010 11:09 To: OSM Talk-GB Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey On 1 April 2010 09:39, Richa

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-02 Thread Russ Phillips
On 1 April 2010 09:39, Richard Bullock wrote: >>As Andy says, I say we start with getting boundary data fixed up from >>Boundary Line and then look at Vector Map District in a month's time and >>decide what the next step is > > I agree with this; especially as boundary data is hard to come by any

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-01 Thread Matt Williams
On 1 April 2010 22:40, Graham Jones wrote: > I have been playing with the Ordnance Survey 50k gazetteer to see if it > looks useful (very simple search tool > at http://maps2.webhop.net/openos/gaz/www/doSearch.php). > As a 'point of interest' database it does not have anywhere near as much in > it

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-01 Thread Peter Reed
A lot more farms are there as ". Fm" "It can't be that all farms are listed as running the query only reveals 372 points with farm in the title. Probably not enough to get too excited about, maybe just deal with them manually?" ___ Talk-GB mai

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
k-gb- >boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Graham Jones >Sent: 01 April 2010 10:40 PM >To: OSM Talk-GB >Subject: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer > >I have been playing with the Ordnance Survey 50k gazetteer to see if it >looks useful (very simple search tool at >htt

[Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Gazetteer

2010-04-01 Thread Graham Jones
I have been playing with the Ordnance Survey 50k gazetteer to see if it looks useful (very simple search tool at http://maps2.webhop.net/openos/gaz/www/doSearch.php). As a 'point of interest' database it does not have anywhere near as much in it as OSM does, which is quite nice really, so it is le

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Kai Krueger
On 04/01/2010 03:06 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 01/04/10 14:42, Kai Krueger wrote: > >> Perhaps even easier and a bigger win, would be to import the postcode >> data. It is "only" points anyway, so many of the aspects making data >> imports hard, such as connectivity and duplication, don't apply as

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
only deals nowadays with the built environment. Cheers Andy >-Original Message- >From: Nick Whitelegg [mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk] >Sent: 01 April 2010 2:05 PM >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) >Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnanc

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] wrote: >Sent: 01 April 2010 3:06 PM >To: Kai Krueger >Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); 'talk-gb' >Subject: Re: Ordnance Survey > >On 01/04/10 14:42, Kai Krueger wrote: > >> Perhaps even easier and a bigger win, would be to import the postcode >> data. It is

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