Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-05-27 Thread Jez Nicholson
I'm sort of pleased that the ENS has at least listened to the UK mappers, who used both pharmacy and chemist, and not imposed their own views. Just as a supermarket can have a pharmacy in it, Boots chemist stores have a separate pharmacy counter. So could/should they have their own node? This woul

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-05-25 Thread Cj Malone via Talk-GB
I think a lot of the confusion comes from the name suggestion index (some of the presets for iD) listing Boots twice. However basically all (if not all) of Boots in the UK are pharmacies, because they do prescriptions. In some regions this is not the case, Boots without prescriptions is a chemis

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-05-02 Thread Dave Love
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 16:10 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote: > How are we showing pharmacy references like those in: > > > https://www.pharmacyregulation.org/registers/pharmacy/registrationnumber/1124246 > > > https://www.nhs.uk/Services/pharmacies/Overview/DefaultView.aspx?id=9164 > > Do w

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-20 Thread Brian Prangle
Thanks Mark On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 at 16:13, Mark Goodge wrote: > > > On 17/04/2020 15:15, Brian Prangle wrote: > > Rather than mappers up and down the country with varying evels of Excel > > skills spending many dozens of hours cleaning up this csv could somebody > > be kind enough to publish some

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-17 Thread Mark Goodge
On 17/04/2020 15:15, Brian Prangle wrote: Rather than mappers up and down the country with varying evels of Excel skills spending many dozens of hours cleaning up this csv could somebody be kind enough to publish somewhere a cleaned up copy? It would be a great resource for the QP. OK, here

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-17 Thread Brian Prangle
Rather than mappers up and down the country with varying evels of Excel skills spending many dozens of hours cleaning up this csv could somebody be kind enough to publish somewhere a cleaned up copy? It would be a great resource for the QP. Regards Brian On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 16:00, Peter Neale

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Are you sure it's upto date?: Page last reviewed: 15 December 2016 Next review due: 15 December 2019 The 'GPs' is corrupted with Chines symbols. On 16/04/2020 17:18, Mike Baggaley wrote: The data at https://data.gov.uk/dataset/e373eb6a-fffd-48e5-b306-71eb17f97af2/pharmacies looks like an o

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Mike Baggaley
The data at https://data.gov.uk/dataset/e373eb6a-fffd-48e5-b306-71eb17f97af2/pharmacies looks like an out of date copy of the NHS data to me. You can use the data at https://www.nhs.uk/about-us/nhs-website-datasets/ which is regularly updated. It even includes an opening hours file which can be

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 15:32, Peter Neale wrote: > > "Anyone?" Huh? (seems to be lacking the back-story!) Apologies; that was meant to be a quote of this email: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2020-April/024410.html in which I asked: How are we showing pharmacy reference

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Thanks for pointing out how to import and convert the file.  After a bit of trial and error, I discovered how to get Excel to use the "¬" as the delimiter and (as you said), the addresses are quite inconsistent, but the data all lines up again in the Post Code Column.  There are some further iss

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
"Anyone?"  Huh?  (seems to be lacking the back-story!) Regards,Peter On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 15:16:45 BST, Andy Mabbett wrote: Anyone? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb _

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
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Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 12:27, Peter Neale wrote: > I tried following the link to your proposed new source of “official” data, > but none of the 3 links to the data worked very well for me. > > Link 1: (API format) led to http 404 error. > Link 2 (CSV(TSV) format – led to http 404 error > Link 3

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert, I also don’t want to delete the objects completely; as they do exist, so we should be able to map them.   However, I do take your point that a pharmacy which is not open to the public is not an “amenity” in OSM.  So my 2 “wholesale” pharmacies do not meet the wiki definition of “ameni

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 20:40, Peter Neale wrote: > I looked up my 2 "wholesale" pharmacies on the list. Unfortunately, they are > both classed as "community", so will continue to be included in your checking > tool. > > So... ...should we: > a. Continue as we are: Plot them in OSM, tag them as

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi  Robert, I looked up my 2 "wholesale" pharmacies on the list.  Unfortunately, they are both classed as "community", so will continue to be included in your checking tool. So... ...should we:a.  Continue as we are: Plot them in OSM, tag them as pharmacies, but give them a name that makes it cl

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread SK53
My local two Boots are: a) a dedicated pharmacy (with limited OTC pharmaceutical products) associated with the GP practice (which is huge, 40k registered patients) and b) a chemist selling mainly beauty/personal grooming products and sandwiches. In the middle of town there is a very large Boots w

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 18:08, Peter Neale wrote: > As Boots' stores don't ALL have a pharmacy counter, IMHO they should be > tagged as "shop=chemist". Those that DO have a pharmacy (dispensing > prescriptions) should be additionally tagged, either with "pharmacy=yes", or > with a separate node

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB
Hi Robert, As Boots' stores don't ALL have a pharmacy counter, IMHO they should be tagged as "shop=chemist".  Those that DO have a pharmacy (dispensing prescriptions) should be additionally tagged, either with "pharmacy=yes", or with a separate node for the pharmacy.  I think that would fit with

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 18:39, Dave Love wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 12:08 +0100, SK53 wrote: > > Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA > > site > > That shows a Boots missing which I tagged as the brand from the > correction iD wanted (brand=Boots shop=chemis

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L wrote: > The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP Surgeries and > health > sites. The wiki page is > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites How are we showing pharmacy references like those i

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-11 Thread Andy Townsend
On 11/04/2020 18:38, Dave Love wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 12:08 +0100, SK53 wrote: Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-11 Thread Dave Love
On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 12:08 +0100, SK53 wrote: > Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA > site That shows a Boots missing which I tagged as the brand from the correction iD wanted (brand=Boots shop=chemist). How should Boots be tagged, and does iD need a fix? (I

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-10 Thread Edward Bainton
Sorry to come late to this party. It would also be useful to indicate morgues & their capacity, if people have access to that information. Eg, most mosques have one. Schedule 28 Coronavirus Act gives powers to local authorities to demand this information. Would be good if it were there in half-d

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-09 Thread Jez Nicholson
That's a great idea. I'll get the OSMUK machine rolling. On Thu, 9 Apr 2020, 17:27 Andy Mabbett, wrote: > On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L wrote: > > > The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP > > Surgeries and health sites. > > Good to know; thank you. > > Do we ha

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 22:55, Gareth L wrote: > The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP > Surgeries and health sites. Good to know; thank you. Do we have, or plan, any social media promotion of this activity? I'd be happy to amplify it, and my contacts at Wikimedia UK will d

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-09 Thread Jez Nicholson
I've added Jerry's comments to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites#Potential_sources_and_tools which is there for all of you to edit and add to. On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:09 PM SK53 wrote: > Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-09 Thread SK53
Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA site (usefulness is somewhat limited because of on-line pharmacies & in hospital ones). Most ordinary pharmacies appear in FHRS data as well. All CQC data (including dentists & care homes) is available on Will Phillips OSM-Nott

[Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-08 Thread Gareth L
Hello, The UK quarterly project for Q2 2020 has been selected as GP Surgeries and health sites. The wiki page is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2020_Q2_Project:_GP_Surgeries_and_Healthsites A couple interesting sources of data, the Care Quality Commission appears to provide a data set