Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

I am in Oxfordshire where we have permission to use the definitive statement under OGL (but not the map). I have used the key prow_ref to add the council reference number for several paths and tagged them with designation=public_footpath (or public_bridleway if it's a bridleway) . See [1]http:/

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_local_councils "Any path not on these documents by 2026 will no longer be a right of way. We are hoping to get some of these released under a compatible license so that we can help identify missing paths." If we can get the data under an OpenData license... Wh

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Quite agree, this was exactly what I did when I completed the survey. Failure to get the licence conditions correct shows that its not just users who find the licences confusing. On 30 January 2014 13:47, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) < robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25 January 20

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On 25 January 2014 18:46, SK53 wrote: > Of course it would be much better if everything was released under plain > OGL, Indeed. Coincidently, it seems that OS is currently running a survey on the future of OS OpenData. So if anyone would like to let them know that it would be better if they used

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Dan thanks for making this clear: it is the OSGB OGL one I was referring to. On 25 January 2014 19:40, Dan S wrote: > 2014-01-25 SK53 : > > Agree, we also have both OGL 1.0 (e.g., Natural England) and OGL 2.0 > (e.g, > > OSGB). > > > > I've been reading the licenses again, and I think the main

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-25 SK53 : > Agree, we also have both OGL 1.0 (e.g., Natural England) and OGL 2.0 (e.g, > OSGB). > > I've been reading the licenses again, and I think the main sticking point is > the viral attribution clause. > [...snip...] I don't want to divert from Jerry's main points, but I just want t

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Agree, we also have both OGL 1.0 (e.g., Natural England) and OGL 2.0 (e.g, OSGB). I've been reading the licenses again, and I think the main sticking point is the *viral attribution* clause. Thus it may be that we need to check that Natural England, Norwich County Council etc. are happy with whate

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

I'm no expert, in fact I'm worse than an amateur commenting on legal matters, I'm an amateur applying common sense to legal matters, but here goes! ;-) I would have thought that licensing cascades down, so as long as OSM attributes OGL then any other uses of OSM are inferring an attribution t

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

2014-01-25 Matthijs Melissen : > On 24 January 2014 11:00, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) > wrote: >> If you read to the end of the OGL, you'll find that it helpfully says: >> >> "These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution >> License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution Li

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On 24 January 2014 11:00, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: > If you read to the end of the OGL, you'll find that it helpfully says: > > "These terms are compatible with the Creative Commons Attribution > License 4.0 and the Open Data Commons Attribution License, both of > which license copyrigh

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Rob, I think you just did ;-) Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 25/01/2014 16:58, Rob Nickerson wrote: Any volunteers? Regards, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Hi All, Okay, I'm going to take a different approach and look at the original intention of the OS OpenData initiative (ignoring OpenStreetMap). Not that this relates to the original OS OpenData product. A) Following public consultation [1]: "Central government has negotiated a commercial agreeme

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

+1 http://bigfatfrog67.me On 24/01/2014 17:53, Nick Whitelegg wrote: I think some unambiguous consensus on this needs to be made clear by the OSMF or whoever - as everyone seems to say different things which leaves many confused. I will still admit to having no idea as to whether I can use th

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

: 24/01/2014 05:48PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence "You need to formally ask:  Any other dataset published under the OS OpenData License by other organisations, such as English Heritage, (or by OS if any)." is unclear: ask who?  Ask the organisation doing the publishi

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

"You need to formally ask: Any other dataset published under the OS OpenData License by other organisations, such as English Heritage, (or by OS if any)." is unclear: ask who? Ask the organisation doing the publishing (eg Norfolk CC), or OS? My impression of the Mike Collinson dialogue was that

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On 24 January 2014 14:25, SK53 wrote: > By all means say "OSMf/LWG consider that OSGB OGL data can be included in > OSM, but > I personally avoid doing so ..." But as far I I know, that would be incorrect. According to Michael Collinson's post at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 14:25:14 + SK53 wrote: > I for one prefer to rely on the formal and informal approaches taken > on behalf of OSMF by the LWG. I also defer to the experience of Mike > who has a long experience of running & managing organisations > generating and exploiting a variety of Int

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

I don't think your last point is true: Mike was working to ensure data created under cc-by-sa could be similarly moved over to ODbL (a different matter). The relevant point is in this email to the list: >* Following my corres

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On 24 January 2014 11:32, SK53 wrote: > For the sake of clarification: > > Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open Government > License is not widely accepted in the community. In the light of OS's own interpretation that the OS-ODL is incompatible with the ODbL, and also th

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 11:32:50 + SK53 wrote: > For the sake of clarification: > > Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open > Government License is not widely accepted in the community. > > Overall in the past 3 and a half years we have traced, imported or > otherwise deri

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

For the sake of clarification: Robert Whittaker's interpretation of the Ordnance Survey Open Government License is not widely accepted in the community. Overall in the past 3 and a half years we have traced, imported or otherwise derived large quantities of data under this license. Mike Collinson

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Hi Robert, Thanks for that extra info about licensing. I knew OS were at the route of most licensing issues to do with maps of the UK but not in what way, so that clears that up for me. However, my view would be that if a County Council has issued data under a license that we recognise as

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

On 24 January 2014 07:29, Bernard Moore wrote: > Norfolk County Council offer Public Rights of Way data on this page :- > http://maps.norfolk.gov.uk/inspire/ (last row of the NCC block). > It is issued under Open Government Licence :- > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/ … version/2/ > These

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

page on the Norfolk CC web site explaining the rights. http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/Leisure_and_culture/Public_Rights_of_Way/Map/index.htm Jason (UniEagle) From: Bernard Moore Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 7:29 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence Hello

[Talk-GB] UK Open Government Licence

Hello, My first post here so apologies if anything is wrong. I initially asked this question in the OSM UK Forum but got no response. Norfolk County Council offer Public Rights of Way data on this page :- http://maps.norfolk.gov.uk/inspire/ (last row of the NCC block). It is issued under Open