Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-09-30

2011-10-02 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2011-10-02 at 15:09 +0100, Dave Hansen wrote: I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-09-30

2011-10-02 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-09-30

2011-10-02 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-09-25

2011-10-01 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

2011-08-20 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 12:16 -0400, Josh Doe wrote: I'd say the first order of business is to create a listing of what each state uses, whether it be SR 123 or VA 123. I also do some work on open-source software projects. When you add new code, you at least make it _consistent_ with what's

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-07-17

2011-07-22 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-07-17

2011-07-22 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 17:49 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: One tile is missing from the routable Garmin maps. It's Waterloo Region, in Southern Ontario. Could that tile be added to the Garmin sets? The East coast sets, from 1GB up include all of the tiles that surround Waterloo Region but not

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2011-07-17

2011-07-22 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 18:04 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: Hmm... Which map tile is it? Go here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/ check the manual tile selection box, and then click on the tile. Look in the Selected tiles in the left margin. Give me both the name

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 09-06-2011

2011-07-20 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 14:03 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: So I'm curious if you are finding that the tracker is working? The tracker is looking dead at the moment. Anybody have suggestions for another tracker? -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010

2011-07-01 Thread Dave Hansen
data was imported back in 2007/2008 by Dave Hansen). You should really ask him. Wonder where he hangs out these days. :) My scripts had this set as their base url: http://www2.census.gov/geo/tiger/tiger2006se/ -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 25-06-2011

2011-06-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 22:47 +0100, Dave Hansen wrote: These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 09-06-2011

2011-06-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 08:50 -0700, Clifford Snow wrote: I'm trying to download the 4G version, but it looks like the server may not be able to handle the load. I'm wondering if anyone can put these up as a torrent feed? The question is who else would seed it. :) Does anyone know of any

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 09-06-2011

2011-06-21 Thread Dave Hansen
I stuck them up next to the images. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/latest/ Sorry for the top post :) -- Dave On Jun 21, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Josh Kraayenbrink j...@kraayenbrink.net wrote: Were is the .torrent file at? I will happily seed it.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 19-06-2011

2011-06-20 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

Re: [Talk-us] NHD data - where to put preconverted .osm files

2011-06-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 15:49 -0400, Ben Supnik wrote: So my question is: where to put this for users to download? My main motivation for starting this conversion was: The dev server is nice for this kind of stuff: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_the_dev_server If you

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 31-05-2011

2011-06-03 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-05-2011

2011-05-16 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-05-2011

2011-05-16 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-05-2011

2011-05-16 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-05-2011

2011-05-15 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 30-04-2011

2011-05-09 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011

2011-05-01 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 16:59 +0100, Dave Hansen wrote: These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011

2011-05-01 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 12:09 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/13-04-2011 I had to go update my script a bit since Lambertus's site got moved around. Please let me know

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-04-2011

2011-04-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2011-04-16 at 00:33 +0100, Dave Hansen wrote: These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude

Re: [Talk-us] Trimet, Portland, Oregon updates

2011-03-09 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 14:27 -0800, PJ Houser wrote: 2) Since we are using two jurisdictional datasets for editing and adding streets and trails, should we delete the TIGER tags if we change a way based on our datasets? I'd say to just leave them. People realize that if it got moved since

Re: [Talk-us] TriMet will begin OSM improvements in the Portland area

2011-03-01 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 22:57 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: But most importantly, all changes are being done one at a time. Nothing is bulk. Every change is done by hand. I am doing my best to make sure nobody else's hard work is overwritten or deleted! Has there been significant thought put

Re: [Talk-us] TriMet will begin OSM improvements in the Portland area

2011-02-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 18:28 -0800, PJ Houser wrote: OSM User Names: TriMet_PJH, TriMet_MSB, TriMet_GNH, TriMet_BB Hi PJ, I was just looking for your user pages so I could spy on your improvements: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TriMet_BB for instance. Did you end up using some

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Virginia road centerlines

2011-02-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 19:25 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: What I like most about it is that you have a forced visual feedback - there is no way you can copy something into OSM without seeing what is actually there before you do. It would be really nice to add some JOSM layer functionality like

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Virginia road centerlines

2011-02-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 19:59 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Ian Dees wrote: I think this is a great first step towards a merging/importing toolkit. A shapefile reading and rendering plugin for JOSM would be extremely nice to have and was the original intention of my shp-to-osm code. ... as

Re: [Talk-us] Relations, cycle routes, shapefiles

2011-02-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 12:25 -0800, PJ Houser wrote: I have some basic questions: 1) Why are relations preferred for bike routes? Think of it like US highways, say US26 in Portland. 26 is at times a motorway, but it's also carried on Clay Street downtown and Powell Blvd on the east side. The

Re: [Talk-us] Import accurate streets in Portland, Oregon - Trimet

2011-01-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 22:37 -0800, PJ Houser wrote: In Portland, Oregon, the region's transit agency Trimet (http://www.trimet.org) is transitioning to an open-source trip planner (http://maps5.trimet.org/otp/). The trip planner will use OSM data for a multi-modal approach - walking, biking,

Re: [Talk-us] Import accurate streets in Portland, Oregon - Trimet

2011-01-13 Thread Dave Hansen
I did a quick ogr2osm conversion on the street data from here: ftp://ftp.oregonmetro.gov/odi/Streets.zip I stuck it up here: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/portland/ I loaded it in (JOSM takes ~1.2GB of RAM doing this), along with some downloaded OSM data. Then I set the

Re: [Talk-us] Import for Murray County, OK

2011-01-03 Thread Dave Hansen
It looks fairly unedited since the TIGER upload: http://open.mapquestapi.com/tigerviewer/index.html?zoom=11lat=34.50629lon=-96.84501layers=B But, it would be nice of you to go through and contact the folks who have done editing in there just to double-check that it's OK to blow away their work.

Re: [Talk-us] Import for Murray County, OK

2011-01-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 12:08 -0500, Mike N. wrote: It looks fairly unedited since the TIGER upload: I see that there's been a new edit since I did my analysis, but still quite unedited. I take it you're going to follow the best-practices import procedures, like using a new and unique

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 11:08 -0500, Mike N. wrote: The user DaveHansenTiger posted what looked like edits / corrections since the original upload, so the date range is best for that. The uploads were all done with my original DaveHansen. When people starting saying that they were now

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 09:56 -0600, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: I don't know how to back to git directly, plus I have no way to test this, but I've attached the logic to check TIGER version as I understand it. At first I thought this

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2010 Imports

2010-12-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 15:09 -0800, David Muir Sharnoff wrote: I just tried this tool and the results it gives are incorrect. For example, it shows this area as unedited and that is 100% incorrect.

Re: [Talk-us] musings on TIGER tags

2010-11-23 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 05:24 -0500, Nathan Edgars II wrote: tiger:cfcc: census feature class codes used to differentiate feature types; describes the importance (generally primary=U.S. Highway, secondary=state highway) and type of road Accuracy: low. Alignments of main routes through towns

Re: [Talk-us] Address Standard

2010-08-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 11:11 -0600, Kevin Atkinson wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Mike Thompson wrote: Do paper maps include the directional prefix or postfix? I looked at a few maps of Washington DC and not one of them I saw include the quadrant suffix. I have a map of DC and it

Re: [Talk-us] Can US OSM help with license upgrade? (was: Re: License Upgrade - Stage Two Begins)

2010-08-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:23 -0400, Nakor wrote: My only issue is the first paragraph of the Contributor Terms. I do not have **explicit** permission from the various US government entities and do not feel comfortable accepting those terms. One of the mission of the US OSM could be to get

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-29 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 18:44 -0400, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: A couple of different users have recently been removing all the tiger:*=* tags from roads in the process of other edits to them. I'm among them. Mostly

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-29 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 18:58 -0400, Anthony wrote: However, they also contain the original breakdown of the prefix, root, and suffix before they got combined into the name and then expanded by the balrog-kun bot - information which will be useful in the majority of cases if we ever

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-29 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 20:26 -0400, Anthony wrote: But as I've shown (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44945783) the tlids don't even make sense. tiger:tlid = 86486485:86486486:86486387;

Re: [Talk-us] Percentage of data imported vs mapped

2010-06-23 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 12:05 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:42 AM, McGuire, Matthew matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote: Does anyone know the percentage of OSM data that is imported vs mapped in the US? How does this compare to other countries? When TIGER was

Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-10 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 16:59 -0400, David ``Smith'' wrote: Why doesn't the talk-us list use the reply-to field so that simple replies go to the list, not just the original poster? The newbies list does that. Every other e-mail list I've ever been on does that. So why not this one? It's a

Re: [Talk-us] Resigning in protest

2010-05-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 01:39 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Terribly thought out process. Terrible idea in the first place. IMHO the terrible idea was to start out with CC-BY-SA in the first place; had we simply been PD all along, nobody would have made a fuss and we could have saved

Re: [Talk-us] Resigning in protest

2010-05-11 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 19:20 -0400, Chris Hunter wrote: I have major philosophical issues with the way the license change is being handled, and feel that I can no longer participate in the OSM project. I honestly haven't paid much attention to it. I figured it was pretty messy, but legally

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 07:09 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On April 28 I contacted bhj867 through OSM with a simple question: does the Little Egypt Expressway have another name, since I can't find anything about it under that name? Heh, he also gave it fake TIGER tags! Funny stuff. --

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 16-04-2010

2010-04-18 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 09-04-2010

2010-04-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Forwarded Message From: Dave Hansen da...@openstreetmap.org To: d...@sr71.net Subject: Whole-US Garmin Map update - 09-04-2010 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:19:45 +0100 These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 25-03-2010

2010-03-29 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 13:55 -0600, Val Kartchner wrote: Dave, I'm a regular contributor to OSM, and a subscriber to the US mailing list. I followed the link to the routable Garmin maps that you have made available. I'm assuming that these are for the US since they are on the US mailing

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 25-03-2010

2010-03-27 Thread Dave Hansen
So, I finally set these up to be fully automated. If these messages get sent once a week or so, should I keep them coming to talk-us? -- These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 19-03-2010

2010-03-22 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media.

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 19-03-2010

2010-03-22 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 22:46 -0400, Bill Ricker wrote: So do all SD-cable Garmins handle huge map files equally well or not ? I think they should. My 60csx didn't have SDHC support when I bought it, but it got magically added in a firmware update. I'm still not sure how they did that. -- Dave

Re: [Talk-us] New List: osm-professional

2010-03-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:57 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Serge Wroclawski wrote: Most people know what professional behavior is, and if things get out of hand, we'll talk to them. Semi-moderated means at first, all post and all people will be moderated. Over time, we'll probably get go of

Re: [Talk-us] Motorway vs trunk

2010-02-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 15:50 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/26/10 3:14 PM, Nakor Osm wrote: What is the distinction made between trunk and motorways for tagging in the US. As an example should this portion of US41 ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.8967lon=-87.6177zoom=14

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map (02-10-2010) update

2010-02-17 Thread Dave Hansen
The map is up to 2.8GB! These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map (02-10-2010) update

2010-02-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 16:05 -0500, Mike N. wrote: Many thanks for this update - it has come in handy many times since the last update. I was about to check with you to see if there was any way to update it, but you beat me to it! It's just about at the point where I can automate it to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 14:42 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: i concur with the notion of splitting at state lines. i also think that the longer US routes need to be handled in a similar manner. Yeah, that's sane. If for no other reason than the fact that the mile markers reset at state lines. I

Re: [Talk-us] [Warning: Potential Flamewar] Clarifying Interstate Relations

2010-02-07 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 14:42 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: i concur with the notion of splitting at state lines. i also think that the longer US routes need to be handled in a similar manner. Yeah, that's sane. If for no other reason than the fact that the mile markers reset at state lines. I

Re: [Talk-us] Issues in New Mexico

2009-12-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:07 -0500, James Umbanhowar wrote: Does anyone know why the area around around Raton, NM looks like it is melting? I don't think it even renders in Osmarender. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.93134lon=-104.46384zoom=16layers=B000FTF You have a couple of nodes

Re: [Talk-us] Issues in New Mexico

2009-12-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 09:18 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 12:07 -0500, James Umbanhowar wrote: Does anyone know why the area around around Raton, NM looks like it is melting? I don't think it even renders in Osmarender. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=36.93134lon

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 00:12 +, Shaun McDonald wrote: Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to import loads of data? Mapping is fun, but I personally think it is more fun when you're enhancing someone else's work rather than starting from a blank slate. Whatever

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:22 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: Anyway, Scott, I'd encourage you to find some specific goals that you'd like to achieve with the import. It may not be worth importing things just because they are available. Is there something specific missing from or lacking in OSM

Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data

2009-12-04 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 00:12 +, Shaun McDonald wrote: Please take a read of http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2009/11/10/the-pottery-club/ Don't forget that OSM was turning away US mappers for a long time telling them to come back once TIGER was imported. It isn't that way any

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER fixup guidance wanted

2009-12-03 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 15:50 -0800, Jeff Barlow wrote: I'm new here and a little unsure of how best to proceed. I'm having some issues getting JOSM to run but I expect to get those sorted out soon. Then I want to start working on TIGER fixup. I'm located in central Oregon, near Bend. I see a

Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects

2009-12-02 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:55 -0500, Dale Puch wrote: I think the idea was that there wasn't that much traffic that it would bother the talk-us group, and what was there the rest of us could possible benefit from. Yeah, that's what I took from it too. It will be a wonderful day when we have so

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map Update

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:54 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: This method the routing-broken-at-state-borders problem, but not the overlapping tiles problem. It should work with a united_states.osm.bz2; apparently that's a high enough fraction of the size of the planet that it isn't produced.

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 13:29 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Used state data instead, if I were to do a mass import. Oregon GEO knows what they're doing, the US Census (along with the rest of the federal government) barely acknowledges we exist. Which would you rather trust? 1) Known good data

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map Update

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 18:50 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net writes: I updated my whole-US map for Garmin devices. It's stolen from the Cloudmade state gmapsupp images that you can find here: http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america/united_states

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:24 -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: IMHO it is unfortunate this was not done during the TIGER import. It would have been easy enough. Sure. But, there were 50 other things that were easy enough to do. Joining county borders, eliminating motorway overpass intersections,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote: So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much, much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker. I think TIGER was a success if only

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:05 +, Andy Allan wrote: So please, turn away from imports and work on getting mappers in charge, especially out pounding the streets. The outcome will be much, much better in the end, and that end will come much, much quicker. I think TIGER was a success if only

Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:05 -0600, SteveC wrote: any idea where...? maybe we could get some locals to investigate what they are? I added an addr:raw tag so we can find this in the future. But, here's one example. There only appear to be a few of these per county. I *think* they're mostly just

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map Update

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 19:46 -0500, Bill Ricker wrote: is perhaps the file too big for some models of garmin to process in real time? i suppose, but it really seems like a couple of badly rendered tiles. I'll try it on my 76csx eventually .

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 23:30 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that like to grumble about TIGER, but I haven't heard a single person say that it did more harm than good. Well then you obviously haven't read the two latest entries

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 14:25 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote: 1 - A few people (we can call the data conversion team) are in charge of taking the data in it's source form (in this case SHP) We use the tools availble (shp-to-osm.jar and/or shp2osm.py) and are the ones who create a set of 'rules'

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Dan Putler wrote: The upshot, for a number of US counties you would rather use the county centerline road data rather than TIGER data as the basis of the import. That's really good news. This is exactly what happened for Massachusetts. They had better

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:11 -0500, Kate Chapman wrote: What's wrong with doing automated addressing imports in situations where we have point level address data? The issue is that it may not line up with the roads at all. We also need to ensure that we *find* the roads to which it refers to

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:28 -0500, Kate Chapman wrote: Maybe I'm confused about the address versus road information. I would think the address point would be the front door of the building and would not be a relation to the road. So the node of the address and the way of the road would not

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:54 -0500, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:11 -0500, Kate Chapman wrote: What's wrong with doing automated addressing imports in situations where we have point level address data? The issue

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 10:59 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: If we can come up with a scheme for getting the addressing imported in a sane fashion and the consensus is that people want it done that way, it'll get imported. There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that like

Re: [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 23:30 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Dave Hansen wrote: There are still quite a few squeaky wheels that like to grumble about TIGER, but I haven't heard a single person say that it did more harm than good. Well then you obviously haven't read the two latest entries

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 14:25 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote: 1 - A few people (we can call the data conversion team) are in charge of taking the data in it's source form (in this case SHP) We use the tools availble (shp-to-osm.jar and/or shp2osm.py) and are the ones who create a set of 'rules'

Re: [Talk-us] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 14:33 -0800, Dave Hansen wrote: Yeah, and that does sound like a really nice way to do it, especially when there is existing data. Anybody want to be on the USA conversion team? :) -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-ca] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Dan Putler wrote: The upshot, for a number of US counties you would rather use the county centerline road data rather than TIGER data as the basis of the import. That's really good news. This is exactly what happened for Massachusetts. They had better

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] [Talk-ca] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:28 -0500, Kate Chapman wrote: Maybe I'm confused about the address versus road information. I would think the address point would be the front door of the building and would not be a relation to the road. So the node of the address and the way of the road would not

Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] [Talk-ca] TIGER considered harmful

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:54 -0500, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 18:11 -0500, Kate Chapman wrote: What's wrong with doing automated addressing imports in situations where we have point level address data? The issue

Re: [Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map Update

2009-11-15 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 21:17 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 11/15/09 6:45 PM, Dave Hansen wrote: and put in the /garmin/ directory on your device (if you have an SD card unit). I'll be updating these periodically as I feel the need. I think I also have my methods down to a point where I

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 23:56 -0800, Dan Homerick wrote: i, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: I'm highly in favor of doing the import, regardless. I think the inaccuracies will be far easier to fix than

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 21:35 -0500, Anthony wrote: Unless you can point me to some documentation as to what the tiger id *means* (*), I'm not going to think about it at all. Sometimes I keep it, sometimes I delete it, sometimes I delete the whole way and create a new one in its place (without

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-14 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 21:35 -0500, Anthony wrote: Unless you can point me to some documentation as to what the tiger id *means* (*), I'm not going to think about it at all. Sometimes I keep it, sometimes I delete it, sometimes I delete the whole way and create a new one in its place (without

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Addressing Question

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 15:19 -0500, Mike N. wrote: FYI - I applied the experimental script which creates address interpolation ways at - http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py The results are at

[OSM-talk] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
So, just like the original TIGER import, I'm now grossly stealing someone else's code: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py and I now have made some .osm files with Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways. I'm not going to post them publicly. I did

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:14 -0700, SteveC wrote: Can I have SF county, CA please and Arapahoe County, CO...? http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/secret/stevec-345/ -- Dave ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 21:50 -0500, Anthony wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: We'll work on making sure that these data look good and I think some people have some plans on how to get

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 15:19 -0500, Mike N. wrote: FYI - I applied the experimental script which creates address interpolation ways at - http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py The results are at

[Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
So, just like the original TIGER import, I'm now grossly stealing someone else's code: http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/import/tiger2osm/shape_to_osm-Tiger.py and I now have made some .osm files with Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways. I'm not going to post them publicly. I did

Re: [Talk-us] Karlruhe Scheme addressing ways from 2009 TIGER data

2009-11-13 Thread Dave Hansen
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 17:14 -0700, SteveC wrote: Can I have SF county, CA please and Arapahoe County, CO...? http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/secret/stevec-345/ -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Addressing Question

2009-11-12 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 11:40 -0800, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: On 12 Nov 2009, at 11:29 , Anthony wrote: On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: It's a fairly well established convention that in OSM it's the houses/plots, not the road centrelines, that

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