Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-16 Per discussione Peter Miller
Don't set up too much of your own structure just yet, because it is very well possible that it makes sense to fly under the flag OpenStreetMap/PD once things are a bit clearer, but you cannot possibly expect many from OSM to endorse the thing when so little is clear about it... personally, I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-16 Per discussione Peter Miller
What does OSM Foundation think about the PD repository? Would it make sense to host both licences under the name OpenStreetMap or would it be confusing? How much OSMF wants to be part of the PD version? After all I think most of the decisions will be the same for both (e.g. deciding about tags,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione Peter Miller
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:legal-talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dair Grant Sent: 16 October 2008 16:31 To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments Jonathan Harley wrote: A

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-16 Per discussione Kari Pihkala
I created a wiki page for the public domain map, have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Public_Domain_Map . There is also a link from the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License to the new page. I listed all public domain licenses - we need to decide which one to

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Jukka Rahkonen
Ryszard Mikke Ryszard at Korwin-Mikke.pl writes: Hello, the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even a national road not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Starting Repository For Public Domain OSM Data

2008-10-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Joseph Gentle wrote: I don't think it matters much where our mailing list is hosted. A google group would be fine I for one will certainly not join a Google list, I don't know if I'm just picky or if others feel the same - Google lists just provide an incentive for ever more people to

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Per discussione Elena of Valhalla
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] You might call it a workaround, but it's certainly a common approach. Many major GIS systems (including the TIGER data set) use this exact methodology. Not including this information will make OSM data less useful on

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Tom Hughes
Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Ryszard Mikke Ryszard at Korwin-Mikke.pl writes: the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. The problem is, the whole area is poorly marked in OSM, there is even a

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Williams wrote: I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Kai Krueger
Given that the Garmin eTrex Legend supporters seem to be the most vocal group, I would like to chime in and try and uphold the benefits of a simple GPS bluetooth receiver instead. ;-) Personally, I find the combination of a small stand alone GPS receiver in combination with a bluetooth enabled

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione Peter Miller
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:legal-talk- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MJ Ray Sent: 16 October 2008 09:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Spam] Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Metro Manila Philippines needs some OSM love Part 2

2008-10-16 Per discussione maning sambale
Hi, A number of people have responded to our OSM love appeal. Thank you for your contributions! As result were expanding our coverage in the noname layer :) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.589lon=121.0679zoom=12layers=000BFTF You can continue remote editing with Yahoo! cheers, maning On

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Williams wrote: I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone device Someone is bound to say eTrex Legend HCx so let me be the first.

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Ryszard Mikke
2008/10/16 Lennard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tom Hughes wrote: the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. [snip] ...but bear in mind that importing data which has been derived from Google Maps is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione MJ Ray
Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Feel free to tinker with the wiki page directly and then post to say what you have done. There is no edit link on the top of the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License Best wishes, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire,

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: When you click Edit, and it says 1. Don't copy from other maps, it really means it. It's not just there for decorative effect. Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere near copying?

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Gustav Foseid wrote: Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere near copying? Entering knowledge gained from other maps is copying, yes. Of course, one can, and ideally one should, take a liberal view and say that expansionist views of copyright are insane

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Paid services from OSM

2008-10-16 Per discussione Jonathan Harley
Frederik Ramm wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: It only says you must also _offer_ to recipients (my emphasis), not you must provide in case anyone wants it - it's like the GPL in that regard. So you don't have to upload a new dump of the whole derivative db (or a diff of your changes)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione MJ Ray
Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no edit link on the top of the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Data_License Sign in (or register) and then there will be an edit button! That should be mentioned on the page, because it's different to other MediaWikis. I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione Jonathan Harley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The key seems to be individually accessible in a systemic way. To me this implies attributes (columns) and tuples (rows of one or more related attributes) that can be accessed. A bit map would not be a database, but XML, csv, xls, shape files would. The

Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapnik Style

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
What I and all the 4 people I've talked to about it since yesterday didn't like was the very low visibility of tram-stops (3px blue square) with zoom levels 15 and up. Additionally I'm not quite sure if oneway arrows shouldn't be shown in z15 as well. I use z15 to get an overview over an area

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione Barnett, Phillip
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
MJ Ray wrote: I won't because I don't want yet another bloody website password. I'm already scared of the amount of stuff I'll lose if my browser password store goes titsup. Isn't there an OpenID MediaWiki plugin? cf http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_AuthPlugin , in progress

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Lennard
Tom Hughes wrote: the situation is: I've got a POI in the area where I'm only in summer. I've marked in somewhere in Google Maps and now I want to mark it in OSM. [snip] ...but bear in mind that importing data which has been derived from Google Maps is not allowed anyway! Even when someone

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Is really placing a POI based on knowledge gained from other maps, anywhere near copying? Entering knowledge gained from other maps is copying, yes. You sure seem very certain about that. I am certain that you are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Paid services from OSM

2008-10-16 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Jonathan Harley wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: It only says you must also _offer_ to recipients (my emphasis), not you must provide in case anyone wants it - it's like the GPL in that regard. So you don't have to upload a new dump of the whole derivative db (or a diff

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Gustav Foseid wrote: One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference between being careful and paranoid, however. Yes. We're paranoid. Always have been, it's one of the things that defines OSM.

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Donald Allwright
I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone device but i'm not shunning away from any bluetooth devices, as lugging around a EeePC in a backpack is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Gustav Foseid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference between being careful and paranoid, however. Yes. We're paranoid. Always

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 16 October 2008 10:49 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device? Andrew Williams wrote: I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in

[OSM-talk] Recommendations for a new GPS Device?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Andrew Williams
I've been using my old N95 for a while now to get my GPS traces, but unfortunatly it's decided to finally give up. So, i'm in the market for a new GPS device. I'd preferebly like a standalone device but i'm not shunning away from any bluetooth devices, as lugging around a EeePC in a backpack is

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Per discussione Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 16 October 2008 05:47:57 Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. You can pretend that address

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Even when someone has been there, verified the POI, and used Google Maps only as a fancy kind of notepad, in lieu of jotting down the coordinates on a piece of paper ? The burden of proof is always on those who accuse you of having copied data from Google, so if you act as you

[OSM-talk] State of the Map 2009 - Call for Venues / Dates confirmed

2008-10-16 Per discussione Nick Black
Hello, The Call for Venues for the SOTM09 is now open. If you want to host the world's greatest open map fest, take a look here: http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=318 To get involved with organising, take a look here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/State_Of_The_Map_2009/Planning The

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Donald Allwright
One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference between being careful and paranoid, however. Sigh.there is nothing wrong with adding information that is copyrighted or otherwise protected. The

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Donald Allwright
Ryszard Mikke wrote: Ummm... Why is that so? Does that mean that I can't use WikiMapia for it as well? Cause that is what I've actually done... It sounds like all you want is a way to place a specific point of interest in OSM, after having already placed it in wikimapia.org. I would recommend

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call forcomments

2008-10-16 Per discussione Dair Grant
Jonathan Harley wrote: A bit map would not be a database, but XML, csv, xls, shape files would. The interesting distinction may be vector data that is not organized in a direct searchable fashion - so, would svg (for example) be a database? H... Definitely. Searching an SVG or any

Re: [OSM-talk] POI by coordinates

2008-10-16 Per discussione Ryszard Mikke
2008/10/16 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gustav Foseid wrote: One should certainly not add information to OSM that is copyrighted, protected by database rights or otherwise protected. There is a difference between being careful and paranoid, however. Yes. We're paranoid. Always have

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. Perhaps not natively, but I don't see why it can't be converted into interpolated-on-street during

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Per discussione Karl Newman
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Andy Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. Perhaps not natively, but I

Re: [OSM-talk] Yet another street number scheme

2008-10-16 Per discussione Matias D'Ambrosio
On Thursday 16 October 2008 14:28:33 Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Karl Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to reiterate my perspective, the Karlsruhe schema is fine for what it is, but it's not sufficient for all uses. Perhaps not natively, but I don't see why it

Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapnik Style

2008-10-16 Per discussione Martijn van Oosterhout
On the whole I prefer no casing, it does mean the actual road colours need to be stronger to avoid the washed out look.. Have a nice day, On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Weber wrote: Hi Just noticed that the Wednesday Mapnik update has introduced

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2009 - Call for Venues / Dates confirmed

2008-10-16 Per discussione Inge Wallin
On Thursday 16 October 2008 16:51:40 Nick Black wrote: Hello, The Call for Venues for the SOTM09 is now open. If you want to host the world's greatest open map fest, take a look here: http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=318 To get involved with organising, take a look here:

Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapnik Style

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Martijn van Oosterhout: On the whole I prefer no casing, it does mean the actual road colours need to be stronger to avoid the washed out look.. True. Do you see the trunk road passing through the woods here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.074lon=8.8972zoom=14layers=B000FFF :D

Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2009 - Call for Venues / Dates confirmed

2008-10-16 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 16 de Octubre de 2008, Inge Wallin escribió: Very intersting dates. Just for your info, the first joint KDE and Gnome desktop conference will take place in Gran Canaria from July 3rd until July 11th[1]. I've just talked with GULIC (Canary Islands Linux Users Group), one of the

Re: [OSM-talk] New Mapnik Style

2008-10-16 Per discussione Gert Gremmen
In general roads have been drawn too wide. While it is difficult to draw roads on scale in terms of width, the new mapnik style is too wide. Look here at level 15: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.98053lon=4.36659zoom=15layers=B0 00FTF where residential roads start to overlap. And here

[OSM-talk-nl] oproep tot meedenken voor de nieuwe site

2008-10-16 Per discussione Olaf Zevenboom
Beste Talkers, Rob is druk bezig met het opzetten van een nieuwe site. Ter ondersteuning is wat brainstormen over wat er wel en niet op die site moet komen is er een wiki page in het leven geroepen: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/NL:Portal Dus: Lees mee, denk mee, geef aan wat je wel

[Talk-tr] TR:Potlatch/Translation

2008-10-16 Per discussione besiktastan
Merhabalar, Katpatuka fazla mütevazi davranmış, çeviri hayli iyiydi, ellerine sağlık. Eksikleri çevirip bazılarını da düzelttim. B. ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr

Re: [Talk-de] Informationstafel für Gemeinde

2008-10-16 Per discussione Markus
Hallo Johann, Gibt's es denn einen Anbieter im OSM-Umfeld, der etwas Vergleichbares anbietet Ja, das würde mich auch interessieren... in der Rechnung die Royalties an das Landesvermessungsamt der kleinste Posten Ich wollte von denen nur eine einzelne Gemeindegrenze. Der erste

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote: ich habe: my ($v) = ($line =~ /^.+v=[\'\]([\/-\w\d\s\.:,\(\)]+)[\'\]/); Ich will aber einfach nur den Text zwischen den Anführungszeichen mit allem drum und dran. Probleme gibt es mit den dt. Umlauten. (.+) läuft nicht, warum? Was genau willst

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]
es geht so nicht... REGEX ist nun: my ($v) = ($line =~ /v=[\'\](.*)[\'\]/) ; Fehler... NEW REGEX ERROR reading osm file frankfurt0.osm, line follows (expecting node or k/v for way): tag k=layer v=0/ NEW REGEX ERROR reading osm file frankfurt0.osm, line follows (expecting node or k/v

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Look von Mapnik

2008-10-16 Per discussione Fabian -Patzi- Patzke
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: [...] Allerdings scheint es teilweise ein Problem mit Multipolygonen zu geben, s. hier: http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=41.885747447516195lon=12.505814746929486zoom=17layers=0F0B0F und im Vergleich dazu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gruß Martin Kann ich

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 16.10.2008, at 09:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: es geht so nicht... REGEX ist nun: my ($v) = ($line =~ /v=[\'\](.*)[\'\]/) ; Fehler... NEW REGEX ERROR reading osm file frankfurt0.osm, line follows (expecting node or k/v for way): tag k=layer v=0/ Kannst Du bitte mal den

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: es geht so nicht... REGEX ist nun: my ($v) = ($line =~ /v=[\'\](.*)[\'\]/) ; Fehler... NEW REGEX ERROR reading osm file frankfurt0.osm, line follows (expecting node or k/v for way): tag k=layer v=0/ NEW REGEX ERROR reading osm file

[Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Markus
Können wir sowas auch? Hier werden über das Schiffsortungssystem AIS Schiffe mit Position und Ziel in Echtzeit auf einer Basiskarte angezeigt. Aber OSM ist noch nicht dabei: http://www.digital-seas.com/fleet_tracking/regions/rostock_de.html Gruss, Markus AIS:

Re: [Talk-de] Schranke taggen

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Stefan Neufeind: Michael Roth wrote: hier gibt es eine Schranke, die an der Verbindungstelle zwischen einem Service-Weg und einer anderen Straße steht und die beiden trennt. (Der Service-Weg soll nicht als Durchgang benutzt werden und die Schranke ist immer geschlossen.) Ist higway=gate

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Look von Mapnik (Multipolygonprobleme)

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Fabian -Patzi- Patzke: Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: [...] Allerdings scheint es teilweise ein Problem mit Multipolygonen zu geben, s. hier: http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=41.885747447516195lon=12.505814746929486zoom=17layers=0F0B0F und im Vergleich dazu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gruß

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Look von Mapnik

2008-10-16 Per discussione Mario Link
Florian Schweikert schrieb: ich habe mich heute fast erschrocken als ich OSM aufgerufen habe. Die Karte ist plötzlich viel klarer (erinnert mich an clearlooks). Echt schick, auch das Restaurants gerendert werden ist super. Mir gefällt es auch, vor allem dass das grelle Pink der

Re: [Talk-de] highway=track;grade5

2008-10-16 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Es ist wirklich ein ziemliches ärgernis, dass manche glauben, jeden neuen dreck gleich verwenden zu müssen. Dadurch werden karten und anwendungen, die erstmal schon recht ordentlich funktionieren, schwups kaputtgemacht. Naja, wenn die Definition sagt Ein Track durch den kein Auto passt ist

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Jacques Nietsch
Am 15.10.2008, 20:47 Uhr, schrieb GS [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Warum benutzt hier eigendlich keiner XML::Parser zum Parsen vom osm Dateien? Hi, ich habe: my ($v) = ($line =~ /^.+v=[\'\]([\/-\w\d\s\.:,\(\)]+)[\'\]/); Ich will aber einfach nur den Text zwischen den Anführungszeichen mit

Re: [Talk-de] Sieger des OSM Summer Mapping 2008 steht fest

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Jochen Topf: Der OpenStreetMap-Wettbewerb ist vorbei. Mehr unter http://wettbewerb.openstreetmap.de/index.php/2008/10/14/sieger-des-osm-summer-mapping-2008-steht-fest/ Gratulation an diese tollen Projekte. Leider hat es bei uns in Leipzig noch nicht so ganz geklappt. Spätestens 2009 werdet ihr

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Jacques Nietsch schrieb: Warum benutzt hier eigendlich keiner XML::Parser zum Parsen vom osm Dateien? Frage war zwar nicht an mich, aber: Ich habe mit XML-Parsern immer schlechte Erfahrungen gemacht. Manche, wie XML Starlet, lesen erst die ganze XML-Datei ein und erzeugen das

Re: [Talk-de] Bigmap und cyclemap

2008-10-16 Per discussione Christian Mayr
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Sven Geggus Christian Mayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so wie es mir scheint stimmt der pfad auf die tiles bei der cyclemap nicht mehr, weiss jemand wie der korrekt lautet? http://www.openstreetmap.org/openlayers/OpenStreetMap.js ist die

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Dirk Stöcker
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Auch sinnvoll ist es, die OSM-Datei vorher in den Speicher zu laden und dann davon zu arbeiten, so blinkt die Festplatte nicht immer auf. Unter Linux würde ich hier mmap() empfehlen. Da kümmert sich dann der Kernel darum welche Teile in den

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Birgit Nietsch
Tobias Wendorff schrieb: Jacques Nietsch schrieb: Warum benutzt hier eigendlich keiner XML::Parser zum Parsen vom osm Dateien? Frage war zwar nicht an mich, aber: Ich habe mit XML-Parsern immer schlechte Erfahrungen gemacht. Hier ist aber kein XML-Parser gemeint, sondern das Perl-Modul

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Look von Mapnik

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Martin Koppenhoefer: höchsten Zoomlevel natürlich nur. Allerdings scheint es teilweise ein Problem mit Multipolygonen zu geben, s. hier: http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=41.885747447516195lon=12.505814746929486zoom=17layers=0F0B0F

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Look von Mapnik

2008-10-16 Per discussione Thomas Clormann
Hallo, auch ich finde grundsätzlich, das ganze sieht gut aus! Aber: Leider kann ich trunks (hellgrün), die durch den Wald führen, zwar in zoom-level 18 und auch 17 noch erkennen; bei niedrigeren Levels nimmt der trunk jedoch zunehmend die Farbe des Waldes an und ist nicht mehr zu erkennen. Bei

Re: [Talk-de] Sieger des OSM Summer Mapping 2008 steht fest (Links fehlen)

2008-10-16 Per discussione Claudius Henrichs
Jochen Topf: Der OpenStreetMap-Wettbewerb ist vorbei. Mehr unter http://wettbewerb.openstreetmap.de/index.php/2008/10/14/sieger-des-osm-summer-mapping-2008-steht-fest/ Ganz vergessen: Dem Blogeintrag fehlen leider völlig ein paar (Map-/Wiki-)Links zu den Ergebnissen der Beiträge.

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Markus schrieb: Können wir sowas auch? Nunja, ist einfach eine Anwendung, die Flash statt OpenLayers verwendet. Klar könnten wir das auch, aber es muss sich nur jemand finden, der es schreibt. Mit Flex sollte es möglich sein, es gibt ja auch noch andere Flash-Mapviewer für Tiles.

[Talk-de] Worldfile vom 15.10.08

2008-10-16 Per discussione Carsten Schwede
Hallo, di eneuen Daten liegen wie immer zum Download auf meiner Wiki-Seite bereit. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Computerteddy#Kartendateien_.2F_Maps_vom_15._Oktober_2008 -- Viele Grüße Carsten ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Schranke taggen

2008-10-16 Per discussione Chris66
Hi, barrier=gate wobei man bedenken sollte, dass OpenRouteService das (noch) nicht berücksichtigt. Aber wir taggen ja nicht für die Router, oder? ;-) Workaround: Kleines Wegstück am Poller / an der Schranke mit motorcar=no taggen. Christian ___

Re: [Talk-de] Schranke taggen

2008-10-16 Per discussione Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 16 Oktober 2008 schrieb Chris66: Hi, barrier=gate wobei man bedenken sollte, dass OpenRouteService das (noch) nicht berücksichtigt. Aber wir taggen ja nicht für die Router, oder? ;-) Workaround: Kleines Wegstück am Poller / an der Schranke mit motorcar=no taggen. keine

Re: [Talk-de] Schranke taggen

2008-10-16 Per discussione Andreas Labres
Chris66 wrote: Workaround: Kleines Wegstück am Poller / an der Schranke mit motorcar=no taggen. Das ist kein Workaround, sowas gibt's wirklich... ;)) http://lab.at/adr/?An%20der%20oberen%20Alten%20Donau%20125

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Jacques_N
Am 16.10.2008, 14:10 Uhr, schrieb Tobias Wendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jacques Nietsch schrieb: Warum benutzt hier eigendlich keiner XML::Parser zum Parsen vom osm Dateien? Frage war zwar nicht an mich, aber: Ich habe mit XML-Parsern immer schlechte Erfahrungen gemacht. Manche, wie XML

Re: [Talk-de] Schranke taggen

2008-10-16 Per discussione Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 16 Oktober 2008 schrieb Andreas Labres: Chris66 wrote: Workaround: Kleines Wegstück am Poller / an der Schranke mit motorcar=no taggen. Das ist kein Workaround, sowas gibt's wirklich... ;)) das ist ja in ordnung. aber es wurde explizit als workaround fuer eine eizige anwendung

Re: [Talk-de] Neuer Look von Mapnik

2008-10-16 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Leider kann ich trunks (hellgrün), die durch den Wald führen, zwar in zoom-level 18 und auch 17 noch erkennen; bei niedrigeren Levels nimmt der trunk jedoch zunehmend die Farbe des Waldes an und ist nicht mehr zu erkennen. Dito hier bei Rödermark/Ober-Roden mit der B45. Das ist eine perfekt

[Talk-de] trunc verschwindet im Wald (was: Neuer Look von Mapnik)

2008-10-16 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Selbst in Zoom 15 gibt's noch merkwürdige effekte. Die Trasse ist ab und an sichtbar, und dann wieder nicht. Aber wenn man die Kreuzung zur B459 anschaut, dann wird die Trasse wohl schon gezeichnet, aber in der falschen Farbe, denn da überlappt die Farbe des Waldes die (rote) Bundesstraße.

[Talk-de] XAPI?

2008-10-16 Per discussione [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, hat jemand Erfahrung, wie lange so eine Anfrage dauern könnte/sollte? Habe eben 15MB aus Köln gesaugt, hat 22min gedauert. Jetzt gerade geht es noch langsamer. Ich benutze: http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/map?bbox= Plattform Status OK... Viele Grüße Gehard

Re: [Talk-de] OT: Darstellung von Links bei NNTP (was: trunc verschwindet im Wald)

2008-10-16 Per discussione Norbert Wenzel
Johann H. Addicks wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ ?lat=49.9583lon=8.84146zoom=15layers=B000FTF Hi, ist mir jetzt schon ein paar mal aufgefallen, daher frag ich mal nach. Seh ich das richtig, dass du über Newsgroup postest? Ich hab heut nämlich schon einige Links gesehen, die genau wie

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Nunja, ist einfach eine Anwendung, die Flash statt OpenLayers verwendet. Klar könnten wir das auch, aber es muss sich nur jemand finden, der es schreibt. Vorallem muessen wir die Daten irgendwo her bekommen. Soweit ich weiss, muss man dazu einen Empfaenger

Re: [Talk-de] PERL REGEX?

2008-10-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Jacques_N wrote: Was ich mit diesem Posting eigendlich sagen wollte: man muß nicht immer das Rad neu erfinden, es gibt Leute, die das schon gemacht haben und oft auch viel besser als man es selbst könnte. Das stimmt. Allerdings kann man, indem man cheatet, ein OSM-XML-File unter

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Vorallem muessen wir die Daten irgendwo her bekommen. Soweit ich weiss, muss man dazu einen Empfaenger aufstellen - im Netz gibt es die nicht kostenlos, oder? Ich dachte, es geht ihm um die Anwendung ansich. Bewegende Objekte kann man in OpenLayers nicht darstellen,

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Tobias Wendorff schrieb: Frederik Ramm schrieb: Vorallem muessen wir die Daten irgendwo her bekommen. Soweit ich weiss, muss man dazu einen Empfaenger aufstellen - im Netz gibt es die nicht kostenlos, oder? Ich dachte, es geht ihm um die Anwendung ansich. Bewegende Objekte kann man in

Re: [Talk-de] Waycheck and Bug report news

2008-10-16 Per discussione Dirk-Lüder Kreie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Es kann auch sein, dass angrenzende Wege vor kurzem erst editiert wurden. Ganz gezeichnet oder nur tags geändert. Generell durchlaufen die Daten ja einiges, bis sie verwertet werden. Wer weiß, was da alles passiert... Behandelst du das tag layer irgendwie

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Ulf Lamping
Dirk-Lüder Kreie schrieb: Tobias Wendorff schrieb: Frederik Ramm schrieb: Vorallem muessen wir die Daten irgendwo her bekommen. Soweit ich weiss, muss man dazu einen Empfaenger aufstellen - im Netz gibt es die nicht kostenlos, oder? Ich dachte, es geht ihm um die Anwendung ansich.

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Tobias Wendorff
Ulf Lamping schrieb: Na ja, kommt schon a weng auf den Maßstab und die Zeitintervalle an ... Irgendwann ist auch der langsamste Supertanker aus Zoomlevel 15 komplett raus ;-) AFAIK ging es ihm generell um Flottenmanagment und nicht nur um Pommestanker.

Re: [Talk-de] AIS Flottenmanagement

2008-10-16 Per discussione Josias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ulf Lamping schrieb: P.S: Was ist ein Pommestanker? die moderne Form für Bananenkreuzer? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

[Talk-de] SOTM 2009 Call for Venues

2008-10-16 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo, die OSM Foundation sucht nach einem Austragungsort fuer die State of the Map 2009: http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=318 Ich uebersetze mal stichwortartig: Wer sich um die Ausrichtung bewerben will, der sende bitte an [EMAIL PROTECTED] folgendes: * Name des Bewerbers oder der Gruppe

Re: [Talk-de] OT: Darstellung von Links bei NNTP

2008-10-16 Per discussione Johann H. Addicks
Norbert Wenzel schrieb: Falls dieses Newline aber, wie ich vermute, bei der Umsetzung von Newsgroup auf Mailing List passiert, Nein, das ist mein UA, der hart umbricht und nicht mehr als 78 Zeichen pro Zeile erlaubt, auch nicht bei URLs -jha-

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione Shajeer Mohammed
It is great to have a dedicated person like you who can map and make changes to roads as their condition changes. But for most people including me, I rarely go back and vist the same road once its mapped. So if we cant come up with once standard lets then come up with 2!. Even though there are

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione PlaneMad
Even 10,000 active mappers wont be enough to update the status of roads frequently. how many mappers would you expect who travel by road on 6kms of national highways daily? While this can be done on heavily used nh's like the golden quad etc but its an impractical approach to follow for all

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 16 October 2008 01:24:11 pm PlaneMad wrote: Even 10,000 active mappers wont be enough to update the status of roads frequently. how many mappers would you expect who travel by road on 6kms of national highways daily? While this can be done on heavily used nh's like the golden

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
sorry - it is practical and it will happen - go read the basic philosophy behind OSM - accurate maps updated regularly by people who have seen the spot. There is somewhere on the wiki a picture of a fire engine trying to negotiate a narrow road wrongly marked on google maps. Just concentrate on

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione Ganesh Krishnamurthy
An easier link, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:India_simplified_roadway_map.svg. On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Shajeer Mohammed [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Can we can baseline the tagging based on color codes given on the NHAI map-

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione PlaneMad
I wonder if the day will ever come when the country will have a widespread expressway network. so in addition to (1) i think we can also tag (2) between tollbooths as motorways, as these are pretty high speed highways anyway. i think almost all tolled roads are high speed roads (80kmph), right?

[Talk-in] Introducing myself on the list

2008-10-16 Per discussione Indranil Das Gupta
Hi all, I'm Indranil and I joined the talk-jn mailing list today. I've been keenly interested in OSM and have been following its developments in India so far. At present, I'm trying to plan some mapping activities in my home state - West Bengal... coz, yes! there is still life here after Singur

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione प्रवीण नळे
I was reading up Highway_tag_usagehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Highway_tag_usageand its talk page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:Highway_tag_usage and there seems to be similar confusion everywhere! Whatever tagging we agree upon, it will be good if all the values

Re: [Talk-in] Time for consensus

2008-10-16 Per discussione Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thursday 16 October 2008 08:46:33 pm PlaneMad wrote: :P ok kenneth, no pint banging heads over this issue. but as someone who : has been invovled with wikipedia, i know how it feels when all your hard work gets modified with someone with a very different idea. which is why its always

[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] State of the Map 2009 - Call for Venues / Dates confirmed

2008-10-16 Per discussione Simone Cortesi
ciao, da oggi e per un mese sono aperte le porte per proporre città candidate alla prossima edizione di State of the Map, l'annuale conferenza totalmente dedicata ad OpenStreetMap, che quest'anno ha avuto luogo a Limerick. Le date sono già fissate per l'11 e 12 luglio 2009. L'idea è quella di

[Talk-it] Scoprire chi ha editato delle strade

2008-10-16 Per discussione Stefano Lauciani
Come faccio a scoprire chi a editato delle tracce? mi ricordo di aver visto qualche tempo fa i nomi dei mapper accanto alle strade ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

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