Re: [OSM-talk] Odd edits by rowers2 in Cameroon

2015-11-11 Per discussione john whelan
ith our dev database or .osm files. > >> > >> As per point on the second column, these are legit buildings, visible on > >> Bing. > >> > >> Michał > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:27 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>

Re: [Talk-ca] Cycling map vs Standard map

2015-11-03 Per discussione john whelan
You can always download the area and render it locally with Maperitive or OSMAND. Cheerio John On 3 November 2015 at 11:06, Pierre Boucher wrote: > Hi, > Can someone have and explanation (and a solution) to the fact that for the > same specific area (small area a few

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-12 Per discussione john whelan
> This would be referring to the explicit permission that NRCan/StatCan gave OSM some years ago. This is a form of attribution. However my understanding is this was given before the OSM license change and before the OSM requirement that anything uploaded may have its license changed by OSM in the

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-11 Per discussione john whelan
The agreement between CANVEC and OSM was drawn up before the .odbl license and change to the uploading procedure which says any data uploaded to OSM can have its license changed. I'm of the opinion that the CANVEC licensed data cannot now be imported into OSM under the new conditions however

Re: [Talk-ca] Federal licence : Confusion

2015-10-11 Per discussione john whelan
t"‎ therefore it is > not a requirement, just a suggestion. > > http://geonb.snb.ca/documents/license/geonb-odl_en.pdf > > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Bell network. > *From: *john whelan > *Sent: *Sunday, October 11, 2015 8:19 PM > *To: *Bruno Remy > *Cc: *tal

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Missing Map Event In November Planning

2015-09-26 Per discussione john whelan
Do you have a confirmed venue with lots of wifi bandwidth? If its preinstalled JOSM its not too bad but going by other maperthons iD seems to be more demanding. Thanks John On 25 September 2015 at 23:40, Heather Leson wrote: > Hi Richard and OSM friends in Canada > > I

Re: [Talk-ca] Ottawa Missing Map Event In November Planning

2015-09-26 Per discussione john whelan
that Pete has been doing them often in London UK and > could help if needed. > > Heather > > Heather Leson > heatherle...@gmail.com > Twitter: HeatherLeson > Blog: textontechs.com > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 3:23 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> > wrote: &g

Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-12 Per discussione john whelan
> it's about scoring points and winning the argument. Unfortunately I think that is the way OSM has gone. There seems little regard for requirements or what are we trying to do or what our end users, the people who use the maps, would like. HOT is slightly different they at least recognise they

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Per discussione john whelan
As someone affected I wish to dissent therefore you do not have consensus not every one consents. Cheerio John On 20 August 2015 at 12:26, Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015, Andy Townsend wrote: On 20/08/2015 02:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian Arctic Island Naming Languages

2015-07-06 Per discussione john whelan
Within the map there is provision for different language names. Different people have different ideas about which name should be in the name field. In general the English version will be found following the convention of the Arctic Institute. However it is possible to tag name:en name:fr etc.

Re: [OSM-talk] API down?

2015-07-04 Per discussione john whelan
I'm getting the same from Canada. Cheerio John On 4 July 2015 at 09:00, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi, it seems the api is down? I can't get a connection from JOSM, ID, or a direct URL in my browser. Regards, Maarten ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in India

2015-06-16 Per discussione john whelan
Could we make an effort to map one bit of India remotely ideally one that has a few mappers in it or users and see if it can grow from there? Any NGOs operating in India? I think there are mappers in Bangladesh or East Bengal as it used to be called before it split from India perhaps they might

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Per discussione john whelan
Everything is geared towards churning through newbies and generating as much as possible media coverage, not fast, efficient and quality coverage of the areas in question. It may have not been intended so from the very start, but that is definitely what it has turned out to be. I tend to

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-13 Per discussione john whelan
I think you could extend this to saying we should let people live their own lives and not allow them access to things such as mobile phones until they have enough education to design their own. In Canada we have native people and the debate is always what services should you provide them with and

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-13 Per discussione john whelan
Western aid has a bad history of mostly aiding westerners. The one simple trick for avoiding that is to ask the locals How can I help? And if the locals say We need a better map for where we live, then that addresses your concern. Unfortunately the world isn't quite so simple. If we look at the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-06 Per discussione john whelan
WHY do we have this agony of stuff not being rendered ? Here's a map of the world. We've not marked on any places as we feel it would be too confusing. What's the flipping point. Flog the renderers I say. I use Maperitive to render some things a certain way. The maps are very specialised and

Re: [Talk-ca] duplicate address data

2015-03-28 Per discussione john whelan
I was on a Federal government committee that looked at addresses. Stats Canada for the labour force survey or unemployment survey has its own database of addresses. A Canada Post postcode may refer to a physical location which is normal, or a post van route which is the rural route side of

Re: [Talk-ca] duplicate address data

2015-03-26 Per discussione john whelan
Basically the CANVEC data imports need cleaning up. I think there were ten different versions, the most common I think is 7. Unfortunately some mappers locally removed the CANVEC tags from the data if they touched it or even on the import as they didn't think it was important. Sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] What is OS OpenMap (UK)?

2015-02-22 Per discussione john whelan
Interesting question Canada has a very similar license. Cheerio John On 22 February 2015 at 07:11, Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com wrote: From the news: OKFN wrote Ordnance Survey announced that their OS OpenData Licence is to be replaced by the Open Government Licence v3.0.

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Per discussione john whelan
Interesting thoughts, I note that HOT is interested in how the data is consumed and in setting some sort of standards. I find the HOT approach gives some hope for the future. Locally much of the information in OSM is not readily useable, different spellings in the tags, different tags for the

Re: [Talk-ca] Adding Buildings + Leisure + Corrections To Ottawa Map Over Holiday Season

2014-12-23 Per discussione john whelan
You might like to add in a few footpaths from Bing and compare the city's cycling map to ensure that paths in parks are correctly tagged for cycling. Cheerio John Cheerio John On 23 December 2014 at 10:37, Richard Burcher richardburc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, I've created a new mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for a draft memo to allow an org to release data to OSM

2014-12-01 Per discussione john whelan
If you email it to me I can host it so others can see and download it. Thanks John On 1 December 2014 at 19:34, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Hi Dave, Since we are limited in the size of the emails, I will send you a copy of an Agreement form used before for such agreements. You

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tiles under CC BY-SA 2.0, Wikimedia requires 2.5 or later

2014-11-20 Per discussione john whelan
I think it should say cc-by-odbl which practically no one understands or uses. The software probably hasn't been updated when the tiles were generated. Cheerio John On 20 November 2014 16:57, Leeds Tracker leedstrac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was about to upload a map exported from

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM tiles under CC BY-SA 2.0, Wikimedia requires 2.5 or later

2014-11-20 Per discussione john whelan
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODbL Cheerio John On 20 November 2014 18:35, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 20/11/14 23:06, john whelan wrote: I think it should say cc-by-odbl which practically no one understands or uses. The software probably hasn't been updated when the tiles

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing Maps article in New Scientist

2014-10-24 Per discussione john whelan
Interesting what sort of smart phones / process are they using and can we get some to other areas? Thanks John On 24 October 2014 12:28, jc...@mail.com wrote: Hi This week's New Scientist magazine (no 2992) has an article about the Missing Maps project. You can read it in full on their

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Per discussione john whelan
Looking at what they are doing I'd say the information being dug out will be of value to the OSM community and help us understand a little more about the people who add value to the maps. It might even help us on the retention rate and bring the experience of the average mapper up a little. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-23 Per discussione john whelan
of maps non-commercial. Is this really a serious question, or a serious survey, or am I just completly mistaking about OSM since the beginning, or is my English not as good as I thought it was? Sorry for the interruption, JB. Le 23/08/2014 15:48, moltonel 3x Combo a écrit : On 23/08/2014, john

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-20 Per discussione john whelan
It is a genuine survey, just those middle questions did not prompt any sensible answers which is why I gave up :) It sounds silly but how does one tell if it is a genuine academic survey or not? I'd like to see an https link to a known trusted web site and not just the OSM wiki. Has the survey

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Per discussione john whelan
It's actually quite an interesting survey by looking at the questions you can often get an understanding of what is in the questioner's mind. One of the most difficult bits is getting a good sample so please go back and complete it even if it doesn't appear to make sense to you. It does show a

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Per discussione john whelan
I was surprised by the question about income wasn't the last one, traditionally once people see such a question they stop answering the survey and also consider the survey intrusive, but that is just a question of the structure. The other thing of course is that it is one that doesn't always get

Re: [Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

2014-08-12 Per discussione john whelan
Ottawa has all its bus stops in and rendered in OMAND and the normal rendering web sites. The city has links to the maps on its web site for some years but all the bus stops are labelled highway=bus_stop and are tagged with the stop numbers so you can text or phone a number to find out when the

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts

2014-08-05 Per discussione john whelan
AM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your input, that was roughly in line with my expectations but for some reason didn't seem to match the person's experience in the field, it could have been some time ago. Thanks John On 3 August 2014 12:40, Pierre Béland pierz

[OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts

2014-08-03 Per discussione john whelan
I was talking to someone who worked with one of the Agencies that used the data in the field and he was saying how great it was. However he said that the map started to appear after three of four days which struck me as a little odd. I understood HOT starts very quickly within hours and since we

Re: [OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts

2014-08-03 Per discussione john whelan
Pierre -- *De :* john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com *À :* OpenStreetMap talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 3 août 2014 12h28 *Objet :* [OSM-talk] HOT Mapping thoughts I was talking to someone who worked with one of the Agencies

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Per discussione john whelan
In the UK there are rights of way which date back in time to the days of pack horses and long distance footpaths. I don't think you have the equivalent in North America. So in the UK a right of way may still follow a privately maintained road. It's probably better to leave the tagging of this

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Per discussione john whelan
Whilst I think of it there are some footpaths and roads in the UK which are open to the public on 364 days a year but closed one day a year to prevent them from becoming a public right of way. Cheerio John On 3 August 2014 21:47, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: In the UK

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Availability (Coverage) 2014

2014-07-15 Per discussione john whelan
What would be much more interesting is nodes mapped by mappers, much of Canada for example is imported from CANVEC. Cheerio John On 15 July 2014 08:15, Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting visualization about OpenStreetMap availability/coverage: Visualizing nodes per

Re: [OSM-talk] Menufy.com added hundrets of stores with payment:bitcoin=yes, which don't accept Bitcoin

2014-04-30 Per discussione john whelan
Or possible tag accepts payment from menufly, (menufly=yes?)there is some added value in the information here. Cheerio John On 30 April 2014 15:10, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas, It sounds to me like then it's menufly which offers bitcoin, and not the restaurants

Re: [Talk-transit] GTFS and the like

2014-04-02 Per discussione john whelan
The thing to watch out for with GTFS data is the stop location. Some transit systems have very accurate data, such as Ottawa, typically is used for announcements on buses for blind people, others have bus stops that can be 300 meters out. There are tools to import the bus stops from the GTFS

Re: [Talk-ca] Montréal spammer?

2013-09-22 Per discussione john whelan
Actually it really is. There are a couple more that have opened up in Canada. Cheerio John On 14 September 2013 14:15, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Is this a real business with a sign? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2458192649 go ahead and delete if it is just a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: A short online questionnaire on the OSM users .....(It takes 48 seconds)

2013-06-27 Per discussione john whelan
One major problem with surveys is the responses. You really want a cross section sample so to be meaningful you'd need to generate a random list of OSM users to send the questionnaire to then try to get the highest response rate possible. OSM would need to be involved to send the questionnaire

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: A short online questionnaire on the OSM users .....(It takes 48 seconds)

2013-06-27 Per discussione john whelan
for approved and qualified research projects. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 4:35 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.comwrote: Always ask the income question last a lot of people will refuse to answer that and any following questions. You'll get better responses with an age range and on income in you

[OSM-talk] Survey on the OSM Wiki

2013-06-25 Per discussione john whelan
There are different approaches to surveys and loosely-worded questions or open ended questions are one legitimate approach. OSM suffers from a huge turnover or drop out rate of active mappers perhaps the survey may help identify ways to help retention. We've already identified that what is in

Re: [OSM-talk] STFU

2013-02-02 Per discussione john whelan
Everybody volunteers their time and knowledge but the existence of a board at OSMF doesn't simply mean that some volunteers are now more equal than others. (Organisations frequently rotate through board members.) Thinking about structure, some discussion should be given as to OSMF possibly

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-13 Per discussione john whelan
Maperitive will give you even greater zoom levels off a local .osm map file. Cheerio John On 13 January 2013 15:23, Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net wrote: My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I'm sure it was once possible to zoom in 1 more level than it is now, on the slippy map on

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-27 Per discussione john whelan
That would be my approach as well. Cheerio John On 27 November 2012 12:56, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users need. I didn't do it then, hoping

Re: [OSM-talk] Searching OSM

2012-10-01 Per discussione john whelan
If you pull it into JOSM and you can load up a fair chunk into JOSM these days running it from a .bat file with extra memory then select and select from selection or do a composite selection. You still need to check each one but that should work. I'd also suggest double checking each one in

Re: [OSM-talk] Street/POI Index from OSM data

2012-09-23 Per discussione john whelan
Or since the OSM data is held as an xml data file with tags a quick VB program to parse it will pull out the street names. Or even Maperitive, load a local file, export tags, then you'll find a list of street names prefixed by addr:street in csv format. Cheerio John On 23 September 2012 20:50,

Re: [OSM-talk] custom mountain bike maps with mkgmap?

2012-08-30 Per discussione john whelan
Have a look at Maperitive it may do what you'd like it to do and is highly customisable. Cheerio John On 30 August 2012 11:29, Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote: Hi, I'm interested in building custom mtb-oriented maps using mkgmap (so that I can create a small map of my area

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Legal in OSM reimplementation project

2012-08-16 Per discussione john whelan
Perhaps some one could sum up the implications for data consumers. It may sound silly but it can take up many months to get formal approval in some government circles. Could some consideration be given to grandfathering, ie if your existing use of our data is non profit or government and you are

Re: [OSM-talk] License Change plans?

2012-08-13 Per discussione john whelan
Do we need to consider the ways that have been derived from GPS tracks that were licensed CC-by-SA and tag values such as road names where the original has been replaced but tag information has been copied over for our consumers to be reassured the data is .ODBL clean? Cheerio John On 13 August

Re: [Talk-ca] opendata datasets

2012-07-31 Per discussione john whelan
Normally the OSM .odbl license doesn't line up with the Open data license. Cheerio John On 30 July 2012 22:50, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello There are so many Dataset available with Opendata JOSM plug-in. The only way to import other datasets is to develop a

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-27 Per discussione john whelan
Locally we have English and French. Unfortunately on one local street has the following physical signs on it Prestone, Prestone Drive, Prom Prestone Dr depending which sign you look at. Personally I prefer the name:en etc it makes it easier to electronically search for the name. Having to know

Re: [OSM-talk] Map and Programm for Offline

2012-07-18 Per discussione john whelan
John On 18 July 2012 16:04, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:17:50 -0400 john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Have a look at Maperitive for off line mapping, it can use .pbf files which keeps the file size down and you can strip off sources etc with XML

Re: [Talk-ca] Help needed to double-check a recent changeset in Montreal

2012-07-14 Per discussione john whelan
In Ottawa they now announce bus stops and as part of that process remapped all the bus stops using accurate GPS devices and dropped the result in the GTFS file. GTFS has its own standard tags (names) for bus stops and bus stop identifiers, including reference numbers. To make life easier for

Re: [OSM-talk] Icons

2012-06-28 Per discussione john whelan
a single step. In my eyes the only thing you can do, is to encourage people to start a new icon set/add missing icons, by giving them a working map that makes use of this icons. bye, Matthias (user:!i!) Am 28.06.2012 00:06, schrieb john whelan: Could someone or a group come up with a more

[OSM-talk] Icons

2012-06-27 Per discussione john whelan
Could someone or a group come up with a more standard set of icons please? Currently JOSM has its own set, various rendering systems have their own sets but a single recommended set that covered more would be better. Currently skateboard, Softball, T-ball, toboggan are things that don't seem to

Re: [OSM-talk] Icons

2012-06-27 Per discussione john whelan
-0400, john whelan wrote: Could someone or a group come up with a more standard set of icons please? lets appoint a committee ;-) -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-13 Per discussione john whelan
I wonder about lumping things together sometimes. Locally we have gas stations amenity=fuel that have a convenience store and a ABM or ATM in OSM language. I'm tempted to have three separate POIs in much the same way as a bank with an ATM have two POIs together. The problem with putting too

Re: [OSM-talk] Changing capitalization (Lima)

2012-06-02 Per discussione john whelan
Igor added a export-tag command to Maperitive that creates a local CSV file that can be brought into a spreadsheet. You need a local copy of the .OSM file or possibly .pbf version should work as well. It's very useful for spotting tags that are misspelt. Once there you can concat red tape to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-28 Per discussione john whelan
I was under the impression that OSM is riddled with data that is not .odbl compliant. In some of my personal mapping my sources may not have been fully personal observation which is more or less what I understand .odbl requirements to be which is why I requested my contributions be deleted since

[OSM-talk] Selecting validation warnings in JOSM

2012-05-26 Per discussione john whelan
Is there a way to select nodes with the same location as the validation does but then find certain ones within that selection? It appears two imports have been done in a fairly small area with a slight variation in the source name. Thanks John ___ talk

Re: [Talk-ca] Introduction and questions

2012-04-28 Per discussione john whelan
I live on the other side of town, Orleans, cycle paths are a problem area in that the city is adding a fair chunk each year but their licensing is problematic so the best way to capture them is by local knowledge. Local knowledge is also best for the new developments as well. Bing etc can be

Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian imports: good or bad?

2012-04-15 Per discussione john whelan
I think you have to start with the requirements and on a project the size of OpenStreetMap there are many people involved each of which have their own set of requirements. End users would like the information they require to exist, be reliable and accurate. Many people who own a GPS and a bike

Re: [OSM-talk] License change: database rebuild schedule

2012-03-12 Per discussione john whelan
The license on the database changes April 1st. Individuals have been removing non compliant data for the last few months. Cheerio John On 12 March 2012 15:06, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: The message titled The Vandalism has begun on talk-us [1] suggests that purging the OSM database of

Re: [Talk-ca] Toronto Open Data

2012-02-12 Per discussione john whelan
It would be nice to bring in the Ottawa bus stops which are available under Ottawa's whatever but an opinion has been expressed that the Canadian cities open data is not licensed in a way that can be used by OSM. Thoughts? Thanks John On 12 February 2012 12:23, Stewart C. Russell

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-09 Per discussione john whelan
I concur the data in OSM is dubious enough without asking for trouble. Cheerio John On 9 February 2012 12:58, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: ** On 07/02/2012 08:36, Graham Jones wrote: On 7 February 2012 05:34, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com wrote: Our default action

Re: [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

2012-01-27 Per discussione john whelan
My suggestion would be to tag the data that maybe deleted. That way individuals can see what needs to be repaired and the tags can be chosen so that the data doesn't render on a normal web render, is that Mapnik rules? It would also allow someone to build a set of rules that would display the

Re: [Talk-ca] License upgrade readiness - contact and remapping

2012-01-12 Per discussione john whelan
It gets forwarded to their normal email address. Cheerio John On 12 January 2012 10:54, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.cawrote: Harald, Thanks for the suggestion. But what can we do if a user is no longer using OSM? If they are not using OSM they will not see the message

[OSM-talk] Dealing with the tainted data

2012-01-10 Per discussione john whelan
May I suggest that the clean way to deal with the data in OSM is to basically remap the roads using Bing and the JOSM or whatever plugin so the data is labelled as coming from Bing. Bing is available and it would give a much more consistent and accurate map than OSM currently is. Ideally I'd do

Re: [Talk-ca] Is Mississauga Data licence compatible with OSM?

2012-01-06 Per discussione john whelan
Remember that you are giving OSM authority to re-license the data in OSM in the future and that OSM is explictly seeking to protect and copyright the data in the database with the new .ODBL license. I don't think you have the authority to bind OSM to the terms of use especially the word revocable

[OSM-talk] JOSM error when trying to save a local copy

2011-12-29 Per discussione john whelan
I'm trying to save to a local file but I get No Exporter found! Nothing saved. Suggestions please. It's the latest JOSM version and I redownloaded it to check. Thanks John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM error when trying to save a local copy

2011-12-29 Per discussione john whelan
internet connection. After 3 retries with Update Plugins, JOSM told me they're all up to date now. Polyglot 2011/12/30 john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com I'm trying to save to a local file but I get No Exporter found! Nothing saved. Suggestions please. It's the latest JOSM version and I

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmconvert problems

2011-12-26 Per discussione john whelan
Thanks for the input. example from wiki: osmconvert germany.o5m -b=10.5,49,11.5,50 --complete-ways -o=nuernberg.o5m Using a much smaller input file that can be loaded in JOSM and includes the desired area. osmconvert ottawa22.osm -v -b=-75.70,45.19,-75.73,45.23 ott.osm gives: ?xml

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmconvert problems

2011-12-26 Per discussione john whelan
John On 26 December 2011 18:48, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 12/27/2011 12:15 AM, john whelan wrote: osmconvert ottawa22.osm -v -b=-75.70,45.19,-75.73,45.23 ott.osm But no data. Thoughts? Yes, I had not ony but two cock-ups in my message. Of course -75.73 is smaller

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking Forward

2011-12-24 Per discussione john whelan
A couple of comments but basically I agree with what is being said. Imports are difficult to handle, especially for example where a road is imported then a local mapper tags a cycle lane on the imported road. Very difficult to keep the data separate. Might it be possible to come up with

Re: [Talk-ca] Degrading Open Streetmap (sort of...).

2011-12-23 Per discussione john whelan
A couple of things spring to mind, the first is use a local copy of OSM with Maperitive and take out the bits you don't want from the rules such as roads etc. You can also add in custom features that are not included in the normal render. The second is load up JOSM with the area or part you are

[OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Per discussione john whelan
Since JOSM can now read PBF files could JOSM request the area of the map to be downloaded to be in PBF format? It would lower the bandwidth requirements. I think it could still return any edits or additions in OSM format but I think more bandwidth is consumed downloading than adding a couple of

Re: [OSM-talk] Idle thought time, PBF and JOSM

2011-12-21 Per discussione john whelan
on the number of nodes and it basically becomes a cost matter where you draw the line. The nice thing about throwing out ideas is you don't have to make them work. Cheerio John On 21 December 2011 17:52, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 12/21/2011 07:09 PM, john whelan wrote: I

[OSM-talk] Compression formats

2011-12-20 Per discussione john whelan
Which is the most effective compression type for .OSM files? I'm running Windows 64 bit. Bzip2 and 7-bit seem comparable but at the back of my mind I thought there was something a bit more specialised. Thanks John ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Compression formats

2011-12-20 Per discussione john whelan
to use. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PBF_Format Jochen On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 09:48:53AM -0500, john whelan wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 09:48:53 -0500 From: john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk

[OSM-talk] Running Osmosis under Windows 7

2011-12-20 Per discussione john whelan
I suspect Oracle isn't very good at installing Java under windows. When I attempt to run Osmosis I get Java as an unknown. Looking at Osmosis I get the impression that I can feed it a parameter to tell it where Java is located but I haven't been able to spot the appropriate bit of documentation.

Re: [OSM-talk] Running Osmosis under Windows 7

2011-12-20 Per discussione john whelan
wrote: On 12/20/2011 09:35 PM, john whelan wrote: I suspect Oracle isn't very good at installing Java under windows. When I attempt to run Osmosis I get Java as an unknown. Looking at Osmosis I get the impression that I can feed it a parameter to tell it where Java is located but I haven't

Re: [Talk-ca] User r_coastlines

2011-12-19 Per discussione john whelan
Yes because it is the individual contributor who has to accept the OSM's new licensing terms, the data was not imported directly from CANVEC into OSM. As a Canadian tax payer I'm not quite certain I like the idea of OSM having the power to re-license Government data but that is a separate issue.

Re: [Talk-ca] User r_coastlines

2011-12-19 Per discussione john whelan
But recently I noted that the CANVEC tags are being removed. Two people in the talk-ca list mentioned recently they had done so. Cheerio John On 19 December 2011 15:38, Frank Steggink stegg...@steggink.org wrote: On 19-12-2011 20:38, john whelan wrote: Yes because it is the individual

Re: [Talk-ca] Canvec source tags

2011-12-19 Per discussione john whelan
to disagree for the moment. Cheerio John On 19 December 2011 16:46, Frank Steggink stegg...@steggink.org wrote: On 19-12-2011 22:40, Frank Steggink wrote: On 19-12-2011 22:20, john whelan wrote: But recently I noted that the CANVEC tags are being removed. Two people in the talk-ca list

[Talk-ca] CanVec Imports

2011-12-15 Per discussione john whelan
Why would someone remove a tag that says Canvec import? They had added a cycle lane but removed the Canvec Import tag at the same time. Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca

[OSM-talk] Who mapped it first with ref to forth coming deletions

2011-12-14 Per discussione john whelan
I was looking at the map that showed contributions from those who hadn't agreed to the new terms. One section I found interesting since I knew I'd mapped it first from a GPS trace I'd made but looking through the history I noticed another name before mine who hadn't agreed to the new terms. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Who mapped it first with ref to forth coming deletions

2011-12-14 Per discussione john whelan
Thank you, its nice to know these things. Fun stuff. Cheerio John On 14 December 2011 11:31, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Doesn't make any difference to the CTs, but I've noticed but I'm not the first

Re: [OSM-talk] Who mapped it first with ref to forth coming deletions - implication

2011-12-14 Per discussione john whelan
So essentially all data that existed on this date will need to be deleted since we can't be sure who entered or edited it or if they have agreed to the new license if the .odbl database is to be clean. Cheerio John On 14 December 2011 11:31, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Change View on OSM Inspector

2011-12-13 Per discussione john whelan
Fascinating, I was always taught that reliability was the most important thing to end users. In Ottawa it looks like many footpaths, steps etc will be the big losers. The imported road network looks fine. So it looks like the tools and specialist maps for the disabled, ones that make use of

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Change View on OSM Inspector

2011-12-13 Per discussione john whelan
What you can do is create an osm file on your local hard drive, in JOSM download a very small area with nothing in it. New download the area you have made edits in as a separate download. Select on username so user:xyz Merge the selection onto your empty map and save it locally. Then after the

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Change View on OSM Inspector

2011-12-13 Per discussione john whelan
The intentions don't matter here, its to be able to defend the new licensing / copyright in court you need to show all the content has come from people who have accepted the new license. Its a lawyer thing and I'm not even sure that in the US OSM has a solid case anyway. Street names are facts

Re: [OSM-talk] Smartphone app to OSM

2011-12-12 Per discussione john whelan
But didn't Steve whatever end up there? Cheerio John On 12 December 2011 11:49, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: That looks like an exceedingly useful app. Interesting to see OSM editing software appear on the Win Phone platform. Does something similar exist for other platforms? I mean

Re: [Talk-ca] import complaints

2011-12-03 Per discussione john whelan
I to have reservations about some Bing image imports. I helped a twelve year old enter a footway, we carefully made a GPS trace, checked the features page and decided it was a footway not a path, added it JOSM and uploaded both the GPS trace and the footway under my name. Patrick was very proud

[Talk-ca] You-Tube talk on Wheelchair access and OpenStreetMap?

2011-12-03 Per discussione john whelan
I was at a disability unconference yesterday and since there was a slot open I gave an off the cuff talk about OpenStreetMap, http://wheelmap.org/, http://www.wheelchair.accessiblemaps.org/ people were suprised at how much information was already in and the fact that OSM was available on so many

Re: [Talk-ca] Re-licensing -- a good excuse to rework some data.

2011-12-02 Per discussione john whelan
Personal view - why not just import the Canvec data? If you use keeprite to have a qeikc look at the area

[Talk-ca] Ottawa only - City of Ottawa 2011 Planning Primer Program

2011-11-02 Per discussione john whelan
If you can make the Thursday evening session its a chance to talk to City of Ottawa planning department etc. The speaker should be good and since OSM is the only Ottawa map that has all the footpaths in it there is a chance to promote OSM. Thanks John -- Forwarded message --

[Talk-ca] Bus stops and recommended cycle routes in Ottawa

2011-10-24 Per discussione john whelan
Has anyone sorted out what can be done yet? There is a gtfs file available but it appears to be under an Ottawa city license which doesn't appear to permit importing it into OSM. The other hassle is currently there is little consistency in things like how the 4 digit 560 number is stored or if a

[Talk-ca] Building the infrastructure

2011-10-07 Per discussione john whelan
choosingourfuture.ca has been looking for ideas and running polls etc. http://choosingourfuture.ca/get_involved/haveasay_results_en.html#P47_2075shows the categories http://choosingourfuture.ca/get_involved/campaign_ideas_en.html#11 shows the most voted for water whatever was an app that showed

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