> it's about scoring points and winning the argument.

Unfortunately I think that is the way OSM has gone.  There seems little
regard for requirements or what are we trying to do or what our end users,
the people who use the maps, would like.

HOT is slightly different they at least recognise they have end user
clients and try to satisfy them.

Cheerio John

On 12 September 2015 at 14:16, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

>
>
>
> Respect to Russ for standing up for his principles in the face of all this
> bullying. Nobody has given a *consistent* answer yet. Why are "former
> railway lines" which are no longer immediately evident on the ground
> forbidden so vehemently in OSM when so many other artefacts from the past
> are not? Old_name, Roman roads, closed pubs, end_date, etc etc. And why are
> some esoteric tags to support a minority interest tolerated and some so
> hotly disputed? Why are some "mapping patterns" decried so vociferously
> here, but apparently they are not actually serious enough to do anything
> about?
>
> What happened to the openness of OSM? This "discussion" doesn't seem to be
> about OSM any more, it's about scoring points and winning the argument. If
> you have the courage of your convictions, you will be contacting other
> mappers right, left and centre informing of them of their "transgressions
> of the unwritten rules" and reverting their changes. It's nobody's private
> map. Let's live and let live.
>
> On 2015-09-12 19:38, Ian Dees wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Russ Nelson <nel...@crynwr.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave F. writes:
>>  > On 12/09/2015 03:18, Russ Nelson wrote:
>>  > > Dave F. writes:
>>  > >   > >   Because when I see a spike, or a lump of coal, or a "road"
>>  > >   > > which is level where no road needed to be but a railroad did,
>> I map it
>>  > >   > > as an abandoned railroad.
>>  > >   >
>>  > >   > Please give a list of tags you'd use to map the tracks in your
>> photos.
>>  > >
>>  > > highway=track
>>  > > railway=abandoned
>>  >
>>  > Which tag takes rendering preference? How is the renderer meant to
>> know?
>>
>> You ask this question as if there is any kind of controversy. On
>> OpenSTREETMap, it gets mapped as a track. On OpenRAILWAYMap, it gets
>> mapped as an abandoned railway.
>>
>> Why do I bother responding to questions like this? FWOMPT!
>
>
> I think that's a question we all want to know, Russ.
>
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