Re: [Talk-us] One of the strangest TIGER screwups I've seen

On 10/23/11 2:07 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/17161384/history "Alte Eisenbahn" is German for "old railway", which is a correct description of the way. why do you think it's a screwup? do you have local knowledge of the situation. richard _

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

On 10/22/11 9:59 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Richard Welty wrote: this text may be found in section 1234 on this page: https://www.nysdot.gov/divisions/operating/opdm/local-programs-bureau/repository/bicycle/safety-and-laws/laws.html Hmm, I just looked at the text

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

On 10/22/11 9:17 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i think they should be tagged differently. if there's just a black on yellow sign saying "share the road" then cyclists should stay to the right. Only if the outside lane is about 14 fee

Re: [Talk-us] Signed shared roadway

On 10/22/11 8:33 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) wrote: This is something that I've been wondering in ma, would on road sign posted routes (there is a sign on a post next to the road) be tagged differently the on road shared use (there is a picture of bicycle in the lane but cars also use it) Sent

Re: [Talk-us] County borders vs. State borders

On 10/18/11 5:43 AM, Alexander Roalter wrote: I recently started converting the Iowa and Minnesota county borders from simple ways to correct boundary relations, which means also removing the doubled ways the adjacent areas share. So far, so good, but I encountered some questions: Shouldn't c

Re: [Talk-us] Combining State/County Borders & Physical Features?

On 10/15/11 2:17 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 10/15/2011 1:57 PM, Peter Dobratz wrote: I too agree that the same Way should be used for waterway=river and boundary=administrative whenever the boundary is defined by the river. That Way should also be added to a relation for the boundary. If

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

On 10/12/11 8:26 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Steven Johnsonwrote: Would next Thu (20 Oct) work for an annual meeting/presentation from the outgoing board? That would at least give us a chance to prepare (i.e. gather our wits). I think that'd work for me. I'm pretty s

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

the number works, i'm enjoying hold music. no need for an emergency search for another free conference call service. On 10/12/11 6:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'll be there, although i think i'll call the number at 6:30pm ET tonight to verify that it works. anyone should feel

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

i have sent out invitations to all new board members to join the board mailing list. another early agenda item is to figure out roles on the new board. in the past we've talked through who will be president, vp, treasurer, secretary and it has been easy and non-controversial, but this board is

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

the eligible members. I would like to thank the outgoing members of the board for their service to the community. I would also like to thank all of the candidates for offering to serve for the next year. Richard Welty, was re-elected. Martijn, Randy, Jim and Mike were each elected. You c

Re: [Talk-us] Interstate Crossovers

On 10/7/11 6:34 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: I had been tagging them highway=service, but with access=private. that works, although access=emergency is (i think) best. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Nominations Open

On 9/20/11 5:08 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I don't think the OSMF manifesto was mandatory, but I agree: if you are a nominated candidate (or are nominating a candidate) it would be very helpful to see some description of why someone might vote for that person over other candidates listed. i'm dithering

Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and

On 9/15/11 2:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I can answer some (but not all) of your questions, Josh: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Josh Doe wrote: Has the Technical, Education& Student Outreach or US Tagging working groups ever met? the US tagging group was my proposal. the reaction on talk-us

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

On 8/22/11 10:53 AM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: I do my best to avoid anything to do with highway relations, but FWIW I recently did just this in Potlatch 2--split a way that's part of relations to add a bridge and totally ignored the relations--and it all worked out fine as far as I can tell: http://

Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways

On 8/20/11 7:52 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Henk Hoff wrote: To my understanding our tagging-standard for State Highways is [STATE] [NUMBER] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#State_Highways I agree that we should use the standard 2-let

Re: [Talk-us] amenity:fuel and fuel types for the US

On 8/18/11 10:25 AM, Toby Murray wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:54 AM, Richard Welty wrote: So just tag it as fuel:octane_87, fuel:octane_89, etc. Not Sure about the kerosene. fuel:kerosene=yes would seem logical but I'm not sure what the non-taxable use has to do with things. ther

Re: [Talk-us] amenity:fuel and fuel types for the US

On 8/18/11 6:30 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: Does anyone know how to translate the US octane measurements to the European ones used (fuel:octane_91, fuel:octane_95, fuel:octane_98, fuel:octane_100)? that's actually hard to do, as there are different ways of measuring octane and there isn't a natura

Re: [Talk-us] Grand Junction + TIGER 2010

On 6/26/11 7:26 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Thanks Mike, I've just had a bit of a play with this and have it pretty much under control. I've added four or five new roads. The method works well. I guess that I've now got about twenty hours of hard work to bring Grand Junction up to TIGER 2010 standa

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

On 6/26/11 12:40 AM, Dion Dock wrote: Here's my opinion, and we all know what opinions are worth. :) I can understand why highway=path makes sense from a routing perspective. However, when I look at Mapnik, I want to see the way's intended use. I'm sure there are plenty of counterexamples, b

Re: [Talk-us] Appearing Sign

On 6/22/11 12:14 PM, SteveC wrote: Dear all A OSM sign has mysteriously appeared at a US battleship museum in Albany, NY without a note. Does anyone have a clue why? If not, is anyone near Albany and can go pick it up for reuse? umm, it's not a battleship museum, it's a destroyer escort, whic

Re: [Talk-us] highway=cycleway or highway=path

On 6/20/11 8:29 PM, PJ Houser wrote: I'm sure this was discussed ad nauseum at some point, so feel free to point me to the correct thread. i would say that consensus was not achieved. i personally favor highway=path and then setting bicycle, foot, etc., to indicate access permissions as approp

Re: [Talk-us] Registration discounts for OSMF-US members?

On 6/15/11 8:57 PM, Toby Murray wrote: FYI the early bird sale ends in 5 hours :) then i'll dig up the code and post it here. warning: we will be checking to make sure it's used only by members, so if you're not a member, please don't use it. richard ___

Re: [Talk-us] Registration discounts for OSMF-US members?

On 6/15/11 9:20 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 6/15/11 8:57 PM, Toby Murray wrote: FYI the early bird sale ends in 5 hours :) then i'll dig up the code and post it here. warning: we will be checking to make sure it's used only by members, so if you're not a member, please don&#

Re: [Talk-us] Registration discounts for OSMF-US members?

On 6/15/11 7:56 PM, Samat K Jain wrote: A very last minute question: are there SotM registration discounts for OSMF-US members? The only discussion I've found is re: room and travel discounts. there is a code to enter when registering online, i need to send it out. thanks for reminding me. r

Re: [Talk-us] Categorizing Stores/Restaurants

On 6/14/11 10:25 PM, Kristian Zoerhoff wrote: I would think Sears = department store; they called themselves that for many years. I think something like Super Wal-Mart or (here in the Midwest) Meijer is tougher; is it department store, clothing, grocery, or something else? the variety of goods f

Re: [Talk-us] NHD conversions to OSM

On 6/9/11 1:27 PM, Ben Supnik wrote: Based on the threads about broken imports that took place over the last few weeks, it looks like there is still an additional problem: even given pre-converted data, users who want to do a import may get killed when their import fails, leaving a splatterin

[Talk-us] Albany, NY OSM meetup 6/7/2011

We'll be meeting at 7pm at the Gateway Diner on Central Avenue, Albany NY: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=42.6811994612217&lon=-73.7907510995865&zoom=17 Richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/list

Re: [Talk-us] shields and overlaps

On 6/5/11 10:26 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Mast wrote: I'm also leaning away from distinguishing unposted routes. I don't think they should be in the database. If they are unposted, the could be confusing to a user on the ground when included in an OSM rend

Re: [Talk-us] Unsigned routes (Re: shields and overlaps)

On 6/5/11 12:15 AM, nat...@nwacg.net wrote: In Arkansas, routes are not unsigned or (except in very rare cases) cosigned. The route ends where it meets a route of higher priority and begins again as a new segment elsewhere. Most Arkansas state highways and some US highways fall victim to this

Re: [Talk-us] Using OSM for emergency routing?

On 6/3/11 8:51 PM, Anthony wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Has anyone used OSM for emergency routing with squad cars or ambulances? Sounds like a really terrible idea. Are there any existing tags to specify "emergency-only" roads? access=no access=emergency is pref

Re: [Talk-us] Who is mapping on the ground in US?

On 6/3/11 6:27 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 06/02/2011 11:05 AM, Hillsman, Edward wrote: If you set up a group on meetup.com you'd be surprised how many people join and start to get interested once you have a group meeting monthly. There is a fee to set up a group on Meetup. Does OpenStreetMap

Re: [Talk-us] Using OSM for emergency routing?

On 6/2/11 10:17 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Hi all, Has anyone used OSM for emergency routing with squad cars or ambulances? I've found someone on reddit who is interested in loading their Garmin with routable data so they can more-quickly get to their destination. Apparently their jurisdiction doesn't

Re: [Talk-us] Who is mapping on the ground in US?

On 6/2/11 1:19 PM, Steve Coast wrote: Well.. it's chicken and egg. There wasn't anyone interested in the UK when I ran the first mapping parties there either. If you set up a group on meetup.com you'd be surprised how many people join and start to get interested once you have a group meetin

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

On 5/29/11 11:59 AM, Anthony wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/29/11 11:37 AM, Anthony wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Richard Welty wrote: in short: a routing engine will probably use classifications where maxspeed data is missing, but probably

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

On 5/29/11 11:37 AM, Anthony wrote: On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Richard Welty wrote: in short: a routing engine will probably use classifications where maxspeed data is missing, but probably only to derive guesstimates of maxspeed values. Now that I think about it, that's actual

[Talk-us] US highway classification

i'm deliberately not quoting or responding here in order to break out of the current, somewhat circular discussion. the trunk classification does two things: 1) it influences rendering engines 2) it influences routing we all are familiar with what impact 1 has, but i think a lot of folks are t

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

On 5/28/11 10:40 AM, Mike N wrote: On 5/28/2011 9:12 AM, Anthony wrote: Trunk has no meaning beyond "color the road the same color as other things that are tagged trunk". Even color is not defined - some trunks can be toll / not toll. However, trunk *could* serve as a router hint that the

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

On 5/27/11 12:00 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: On 05/27/2011 09:06 AM, Richard Welty wrote: if you peruse the wiki, and make a reasonably through search for definitions of trunk in the US, you will find an extensive complex of contradictions and inconsistencies. Maybe someone should find all these and

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

On 5/27/11 9:47 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/27/2011 9:34 AM, Richard Welty wrote: which is to day, i don't agree with many of your upgrades, but i've chosen not to engage in an edit war in the map nor have i chosen to engage in flame wars on this list about it, but there is no

Re: [Talk-us] US highway classification

On 5/27/11 9:26 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 5/27/2011 12:32 AM, Nathan Mills wrote: Would I be correct in stating that tagging an undivided 2 lane (one lane in each direction) highways would be improper, even if a state calls the highway a "trunk" for planning purposes? Especially if it's in

[Talk-us] New York: Albany Mappy Hour (6/11/2011)

I'm putting together a Mappy hour for Capital District mappers on Tuesday June 11th, probably around 7pm, venue TBD (I'm aiming for a place that's kind of central.) if you're in the area, please mark your calendars and watch for further announcements. there's a capital district meetup group here:

Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors

On 5/16/11 1:16 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 17:56, Richard Welty wrote: On 5/16/11 11:10 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 06:09, Richard Weltywrote: i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming

Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors

On 5/16/11 11:10 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 16 May 2011 06:09, Richard Welty wrote: i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as

Re: [Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors

On 5/16/11 11:05 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: How about just "Don't run bots" on data that's not local/you didn't add. i have no illusions. many bot authors think their bots don't stink. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http

[Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors

i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should

Re: [Talk-us] Another day, another bad import

On 5/1/11 2:35 PM, Toby Murray wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Alan Millar wrote: Yeah... Every time I go editing in some new place, I always find another reason to hate newbies, too. I think that is different in a significant way

Re: [Talk-us] updated critical address file for US - 25 April 2011

On 4/25/11 7:03 PM, Mike N wrote: On 4/25/2011 6:45 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Please don't import these without verifying against your own local knowledge or other sources. Experience is that they are poorly geo-referenced and/or have other problems In fact I treat them as individual bug reports

Re: [Talk-us] County road network relations

On 4/13/11 4:18 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:56:51AM -0400, Richard Welty wrote: ways vs. relations. we need the identifier on ways because of the data consumers that expect to render directly. for relations, we should in theory be only including the actual

Re: [Talk-us] County road network relations

On 4/13/11 10:54 AM, Mike N wrote: On 4/13/2011 10:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > network="US:CA:Orange" > + ref="CR S18" I'd drop the CR prefix since that's more of a network identifier than a reference number. Most Interstates, US Highways and most state highways include the network ide

Re: [Talk-us] County road network relations

On 4/13/11 10:44 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 04/10/2011 06:25 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-10 14:00, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: What's the consensus for county roads in the US? I don't know what the consensus is. County roads in California are of the form [A-Z][0-9][0-9]. I tag Orange Coun

Re: [Talk-us] School bus routes?

one of the tags would need to be the dates for which the routes are known to be good. for many districts, this would be a single year. On 4/12/11 6:04 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Well, it would be useful to have this information available in the database, as long as it is kept up-to-date. W

Re: [Talk-us] School bus routes?

On 4/12/11 5:08 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 04/10/2011 02:53 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: The route information would also be of interest to any parents considering moving into a neighborhood, and who were wanting to know where their children would wait for the bus, or approximately how long

Re: [Talk-us] County road network relations

On 4/11/11 1:47 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: * Nathan Mills [2011-04-10 19:22 -0500]: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:14:18 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: How about simply network=US:CA:CR? That's all well and good for California, but what about states like Arkansas (and Florida, IIRC) where the county road

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

On 4/10/11 10:28 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On and i must say, this particular clown's results look pretty damn good. http://www.my-magic-store.com/product/images/clown_nose.gif "Nose in mirror may be closer than it appears&quo

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

On 4/10/11 10:05 PM, Richard Weait wrote: Shields on relations is easy! Any clown can do this.[1] Here. Interstate, US Route, NY State Highway, MA State highway and NY County road shields. What are you waiting for? You want to wait for somebody else to do this for you? Really? Just do it.

Re: [Talk-us] County road network relations

On 4/10/11 8:22 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 20:14:18 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: It's almost like they defined super-groups of counties identified by those letters. I'll have to crunch that table to see if that's the case so we could have network=US:CA:S + ref="CR S18". Maybe

Re: [Talk-us] School bus routes?

On 4/10/11 7:05 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-10 12:43, Richard Welty wrote: i worry about importing such data then failing to maintain it. it's very subject to bit rot. At the yearly level, true of any temporal data that we enthusiastically map, like tenants of strip malls*, bus

Re: [Talk-us] note to folks doing mapping based on aerial imagery

On 4/10/11 7:10 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-10 15:39, Richard Welty wrote: i have comment tags on the relevant ways now, but i'm going to change comment to README to make it more obvious. Hmmm. I've been using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:note for such comments

Re: [Talk-us] note to folks doing mapping based on aerial imagery

On 4/10/11 1:50 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-10 08:16, Richard Welty wrote: please don't go overboard mapping areas from imagery where you can't do ground surveys, particularly where there are clearly local mappers working. ...and please try to make this obvious to others, pa

Re: [Talk-us] County road network relations

On 4/10/11 5:00 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: Would it be: Big Timber Road. network=us_il_kane this is a reasonable network tag for the ways. I don't want ref tags on these, as the shields will quickly get too cluttered in Mapnik. that must be a lot of county roads, i haven't perceived a

Re: [Talk-us] School bus routes?

On 4/10/11 1:39 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2011-04-10 09:42, Nathan Edgars II wrote: I came across a relation for a school bus: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/239393 Isn't this a little too much detail for OSM? A single relation? Really? We map lots of private-access things, like

[Talk-us] note to folks doing mapping based on aerial imagery

please don't go overboard mapping areas from imagery where you can't do ground surveys, particularly where there are clearly local mappers working. if there is significant variance from the imagery, and there is clearly a local mapper working there (check the history, folks, please) then contact t

Re: [Talk-us] downgraded highway classification in US

On 4/9/11 10:59 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/9/2011 8:41 AM, Richard Welty wrote: there are some notes in the Wiki about downgrading state highways to tertiary if they don't connect up to other secondary roads at reasonable intervals. in the spirit of this, when i encountered a c

[Talk-us] downgraded highway classification in US

there are some notes in the Wiki about downgrading state highways to tertiary if they don't connect up to other secondary roads at reasonable intervals. in the spirit of this, when i encountered a county route in Rensselaer County that was a stub that only reached a couple of houses and a trailer

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

On 4/8/11 4:50 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 4:46 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 4/8/11 4:26 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Do you have an example of that outside my first few months of editing? this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5223229 from 7/2010, in which

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

On 4/8/11 4:26 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 4:18 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 4/8/11 4:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 3:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i know NE2 likes to make the prefix go away for state ref tags For Florida, yes, since that's the statewide standard

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

On 4/8/11 4:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/8/2011 3:58 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i know NE2 likes to make the prefix go away for state ref tags For Florida, yes, since that's the statewide standard. For other states, I usually don't tag without a prefix. I certainly don'

Re: [Talk-us] REF tags for State Highways on ways

On 4/8/11 3:35 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: Shouldn't the ref tag be an unambiguous reference to a given road in a route network? Clearly, one should not put name=MI XX on a Michigan state route (unless there is a road sign reading "MI XX"), but ref=MI XX provides said unambiguous reference and ca

[Talk-us] calling NYC area mappers (State of the State: NY at SOTM)

i'm looking for some NYC area mappers to help preparing the NY State of the State presentation for SOTM (possibly co presenting). i know upstate, but everyone who lives here knows that NYC and upstate are, well, like two completely different states. thanks, richard ___

Re: [Talk-us] Can anyone explain this TIGER oddity?

On 4/3/11 11:44 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22fake+state+hwy+35%22 baseless speculation: random census bureau employee puts in a placeholder name, never gets around to correcting it. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

On 3/29/11 1:34 AM, Val Kartchner wrote: On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 18:07 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: ... any solution i can come up with strikes me as making things messier. richard Here's a useful question: How are addresses stored in the database for GPS devices? They have to transla

Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate exit junction exit_to tag

On 3/28/11 6:21 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/28/2011 5:00 PM, Andrew Cleveland wrote: Just a nitpick: For exit numbers that consist of both a number and a letter, should we insert a space? For example "20A" vs. "20 A". The MUTCD ( http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2009/part2/part2e.htm#section2

Re: [Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

On 3/28/11 5:13 PM, Antony Pegg wrote: Hi Richard, I *think* the short answer is that you don't have to include the address point node/way into the interpolated way I dont know whether or not its the "correct" way of doing things, but I know what works with Nominatim Address points trump i

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

On 3/28/11 2:04 PM, Richard Weait wrote: Yes, but not for the reason you might think. ;-) Have the conversation here where everybody can participate, or at least watch in silence. The risk of prematurely splitting off to another group is that you'll miss some interested parties. If the layer-

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

On 3/28/11 10:18 AM, Richard Welty wrote: i will look into where this can be hosted, and look into setting up a mailing list for those interested in the project to communicate. does anyone object to a google groups list named something like "osm-layers"?

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

On 3/28/11 11:22 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Steven Johnson wrote: I, too, have been thinking that a core+layers approach would be useful in a number of contexts, primarily conflation between different This might be something interesting to do with those servers

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

On 3/28/11 10:21 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: i'm debating whether or not i want to set up a parallel database, using the OSM design, to contain historical data that can be used in a mashup with OSM, and opening it up for historically m

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

. jack On 3/26/2011 5:57 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/26/11 5:53 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Richard Welty writes: historical mapping can be hard. i have the resources to do a bunch of it for the Civil War, but the tagging system doesn't support a lot of the data and it would jus

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

On 3/26/11 5:53 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Richard Welty writes: > historical mapping can be hard. i have the resources to do a bunch of it for > the Civil War, but the tagging system doesn't support a lot of the data and > it would just make a mess of the map, i think, r

Re: [Talk-us] Cool ITO World US and Canada coverage

On 3/26/11 11:43 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/26/2011 11:37 AM, Richard Welty wrote: a helpful visualizer for the US would be one that flags speeds w/o a units tag (kph default). the mph option was added to the wiki in recent memory, and i for one tagged a lot of US roads with kph values

Re: [Talk-us] Cool ITO World US and Canada coverage

On 3/26/11 11:37 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/26/11 7:51 AM, Mike N wrote: As a side note: the speed limit in mph has confounded the Skobbler designers - possibly because their data is filtered via Cloudmade. There are many roads already fully tagged with maxspeed that get Mapdust reports

Re: [Talk-us] Cool ITO World US and Canada coverage

On 3/26/11 7:51 AM, Mike N wrote: On 3/26/2011 12:58 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: Great tool for visualizing speed limits The US convention of 'xx mph' has proved difficult for many map consumers. I have bugged all the other "Speed Limit Visualizer" providers, but no one has come up with a func

Re: [Talk-us] "Screw-up" of borders

On 3/25/11 1:53 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Also, before you post publicly that someone in OSM has "screwed up," I think that, at the least, you should discuss the situation with that person off-list. Using terms, such as "screwed up," is not helpful to our mutual effort of creating an open-sou

Re: [Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

On 3/25/11 1:36 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: * Richard Welty [2011-03-25 12:07 -0400]: i see no examples of using interpolation ways with building polygons. can anyone point me to any examples of this? The only time I've mixed the two has been with stripmall-style buildings where there are a s

Re: [Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

On 3/25/11 1:18 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Check Washington, DC out. Lots and lots of building with addresses. buildings with addresses participating in address interpolation ways? richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://l

[Talk-us] using address interpolation with building polygons

so i'm looking at address interpolation ways here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:interpolation and while it's straightforward enough to use with nodes with address tags, i see no examples of using interpolation ways with building polygons. can anyone point me to any examples of thi

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

On 3/20/11 8:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:38 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: d suggest using relations to group ways that are parts of named rivers rather than trying to combine the ways. If the

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

On 3/20/11 8:16 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 3/20/2011 8:13 PM, Richard Welty wrote: d suggest using relations to group ways that are parts of named rivers rather than trying to combine the ways. If the only difference between the ways is that NHD assigns a different ID number to them, not

Re: [Talk-us] Proposed cleanup: NHD "rivers"

On 3/20/11 7:50 PM, Paul Norman wrote: 3 is about making the rivers into single ways, more like a mapper would do by hand. I'm not really set on this step and if done it would be after steps 1 and 2 have been done everywhere. Looking at nhd:com_id it might cause problems with updating, so I'm thi

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

eomantic s: sejohnson8 "A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 17:09, Richard Welty <mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net>> wrote: historical mapping can be hard. i have the resources to do

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

have a plan in hand to do historical mapping. -- SEJ t: @geomantic s: sejohnson8 "A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 16:40, Richard Welty <mailto:rwe...@averillpark.net>> wrote:

Re: [Talk-us] Civil War sites

definitely. i've done some mapping of the Antietam Battlefield Park, and would love to do more. how do you (SteveC) envision this? there are numerous things that can be mapped, but some would seem pretty unreasonable to attempt in OSM as it is now (e.g., showing all the unit locations during the

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: Long-distance scenic roads

On 2/24/11 6:44 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: These two are probably the best known of such roads, but there are others. --In the 1920s, the Lincoln Highway was established across the United States to promote auto travel (it seems to have succeeded). Portions were financed by oil companies. The

Re: [Talk-us] place=city name=Tri-Cities

On 2/24/11 11:01 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Seems like out here in Kansas/Nebraska a lot of cities are a member of some "tri-city" region but I think it is almost always made up by the local weather man who just wants a quick way to refer to "this area here" while pointing at his magic green screen.

Re: [Talk-us] Long-distance scenic roads

On 2/23/11 10:10 PM, Ian Dees wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Nathan Edgars II > wrote: On 2/23/2011 9:46 PM, Ian Dees wrote: They should be part of a route relation. Buh...? I'm asking what highway=* value they should have. Do they really,

Re: [Talk-us] MapQuest releases Android app that includes OSM

On 2/16/11 10:06 AM, Antony Pegg wrote: Hi all (sorry for the double post) MapQuest released our Android application today in the marketplace http://blog.mapquest.com/2011/02/16/mapquest-unveils-free-android-app/ It is free, and has an OSM mode, which when switched to, uses: that's outstandi

Re: [Talk-us] atoning for sins

On 1/21/11 3:36 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: Alright, okay, I'm feeling guilty for blowing off last night's meeting after we'd made special effort to reschedule. My apologies to Rich and Ian, who I left in the lurch. The rest of you...well, your excuse is as flimsy as mine. ;-) i'm not that upset

Re: [Talk-us] NY: replacing county borders

On 1/4/11 11:53 AM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: Here's the release schedule for 2010 TIGER shapefiles: http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2010/release_schedule.html Looks like New York is only available right now via FTP (there's a link at the above address). yes, i found them, trying to s

Re: [Talk-us] NY: replacing county borders

On 1/3/11 8:42 PM, Richard Welty wrote: On 1/3/11 8:11 PM, Michal Migurski wrote: Sounds like a sane way forward to me. Are you using the new 2010 files that they're slowly releasing? Do you plan to keep all the FIPS info as you go? i haven't yet seen 2010 boundary files of an

Re: [Talk-us] US highway tagging (was Re: highway shields: "get your kicks, where?")

On 1/4/11 3:18 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On 01/03/2011 10:08 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Also, is it now "correct" to not tag (network, ref) the individual ways that are part of a route relation? What about name? Is it "correct" to remove those existing tags from the ways (and ensure they are on

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