[catching up; sorry if this is really redundant]
Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com writes:
A true super two freeway, with no at-grade intersections whatsoever,
would be properly classified as a motorway under global OSM tagging
conventions. These may not be particularly common in the U.S.
Yeah, trunk seems more appropriate to me, motorway seems to make me think
of a limited access roadway with a statisticaly insignificant chance of
getting hit head on.
On Jun 28, 2013 8:07 PM, Evin Fairchild evindf...@gmail.com wrote:
So basically, these super-2 roads should be tagged as
Yeah, to me the wiki reads that to be a motorway it should be dual
carriageway except in exceedingly rare circumstances. That's how I've been
tagging.
So then we come back to the question of what exactly is trunk if it isn't
used for these kinds of roads?
Toby
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM,
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2013-06-30 03:39 -0500]:
So then we come back to the question of what exactly is trunk if it isn't
used for these kinds of roads?
I've thought of them as something like really major but not
Interstate-grade roads. Primary roads are main roads, obviously,
That sounds about right for defining a motorway.
On Jun 30, 2013 8:37 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2013-06-30 03:39 -0500]:
So then we come back to the question of what exactly is trunk if it isn't
used for these kinds of roads?
I've thought
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, to me the wiki reads that to be a motorway it should be dual
carriageway except in exceedingly rare circumstances. That's how I've been
tagging.
That is not how I read it, especially since I do not see
So basically, these super-2 roads should be tagged as motorways instead of
primary or trunk? That would be fine with me. Even though I have changed
roads like these back to primary when someone had changed them to motorway,
I only did that because I thought motorway was not supposed to be used
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
That would mean most freeways including interstates in the west, with the
exception of limited sections in the bay area, southwestern California,
central Portland and urban Seattle wouldn't be motorways, as restricting
On Jun 25, 2013 9:51 PM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO the first criterion I'd look for is: does this road carry the same
restrictions associated with a freeway in the state in question? For
example, in many states, freeways have posted access restriction signs
limiting use
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
On Jun 25, 2013 9:51 PM, Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO the first criterion I'd look for is: does this road carry the same
restrictions associated with a freeway in the state in question? For
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Richie Kennedy
richiekenned...@gmail.comwrote:
In Kansas, Signs indicating access restrictions are posted on the on-ramps
to interstates and some (but *not* all) non-interstate freeways. K-10, for
instance, has posted access restrictions on the Douglas County
Yes, and out west, where there are long lonely stretches of
interstate, there seem to be places where bicycle access is allowed.
I am thinking of I-40 east of Barslow, where another mapper (sorry,
don't remember who) told me that it was correct after I asked him about it.
Charlotte
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
But that goes back to are we trying to be consistent within OSM, or are
we trying to second guess the renderer to look like some other publisher's
map? Or to put it another way, Why are we trying to tag for the renderer
I get that, but looking at how the tag is documented (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway), if it's not divded, it's not
a motorway. Perhaps Richard or Phil could chime in again on whether it's
time to update the wiki or update the tag.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Richie Kennedy
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I get that, but looking at how the tag is documented (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway), if it's not divded, it's
not a motorway. Perhaps Richard or Phil could chime in again on whether
it's time to update
There seems to be some disagreement on how to handle the super-two (or
super-four s California has a few of) highways. These highways are two
lanes, one each way (or four lanes, two each way) with no central division
or median, but freeway-like connecting ramps. Examples would be long
stretches
On 6/25/13 10:40 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I'm under the understanding that the consensus for a motorway would be
fully multiple (at minimum 2) carriageway with limited access, whereas a
trunk would be any motorway that doesn't meet that criteria (intersections,
single carriageway, etc). Could I
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2013-06-25 09:40 -0500]:
There seems to be some disagreement on how to handle the super-two (or
super-four s California has a few of) highways.
[snip]
I'm under the understanding that the consensus for a motorway would be
fully multiple (at minimum 2)
I'm a little late to the party here, but I am involved in this question.
I have marked US 169 between Iola and Chanute as Motorway because, although it
is a super-two, it is fully controlled access along this segment. I believe
this is consistent with the way most commercial map-makers would
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM, richiekenned...@gmail.com wrote:
I have marked US 169 between Iola and Chanute as Motorway because,
although it is a super-two, it is fully controlled access along this
segment. I believe this is consistent with the way most commercial
map-makers would mark
On 6/25/13 8:49 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
It's not the number of lanes that makes the distinction, but the character
of the road. People don't expect an undivided motorway, but describing it
as a trunk will cue most renderers to go for something motorway-like but
not quite there. A super-two
A true super two freeway, with no at-grade intersections whatsoever,
would be properly classified as a motorway under global OSM tagging
conventions. These may not be particularly common in the U.S.
(although they exist), but they are common enough around the world to
be consistent.
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