Eleanor,
I want to clarify some things:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Eleanor Tutt eleanor.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul - If perception of mapping in the US isn't aligning with reality, we
probably *do* need to do a better job as a chapter board of telling the full
story.
I believe that the
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Martijn van Exel mart...@openstreetmap.us
wrote:
It would be nice if we could have SotM US this June be a venue to dispel
some of the assumptions that seem to exist abroad about the U.S
OpenStreetMap community. Reducing the U.S. community to a bunch of couch
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
If the two were layers in the same database, or if they have been
tagged using railway=dismantled and railway=abandoned, then it's no
problem to look at them, render them, edit them, analyze them
I still dont understand
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:55 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
The events are characterized as Edit-a-thons and they were designed
to be run indoors. They were essentially a response from some members
of the community who felt that Mapping Parties were not for them. The
advantage
I actually think it's fine Frederik has opinions about how we should do
things around here in the US and shares them. I just don't want to be
called a couch potato in the course of it ;-)
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:18 PM,
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:
In the current board term I counted 15 blog posts. The breakdown of these
is
7 conference
3 indoor computer-based events
2 non-OSM geo-related projects
2 chapter administrative
1 HOT
Last year, it is similar, except the
Also! There's still time to join the upcoming #mapathon by organizing an
event in your community
https://twitter.com/OpenStreetMapUS/status/584378522245922816
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Eleanor Tutt
Am 04.04.2015 um 14:57 schrieb Kate Chapman:
...
Small reality check (not saying that this is anybodies fault, just how
it is):
- the US community shapes how the project is perceived by the media globally
- US based companies control the majority of funds spent on OSM
development and have a
Am 03.04.2015 um 02:41 schrieb stevea:
Facts about the world
Simon Poole writes:
Up to now OSM has drawn the line in such a way that stuff that is
signposted and is observable on the ground is fair game (with some
exceptions, I believe the GR issue is still unsolved).
Yes, all of that is
Hi, Serge.
As a member of the chapter board, I feel a bit erased? misrepresented? by
your email. It hurt, especially because I think you and I share some common
ground about why we map and that it is important to feel a connection to a
place.
At any rate, while you are more qualified to speak to
Many areas of the western US are sparsely populated. Not only are there few
mappers per square mile, there are simply very few people per square mile.
I map were I visit. But in more than a few cases I may only visit and area
once. This could lead to the same issue you worry about for imports:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 04/03/2015 02:41 AM, stevea wrote:
It seems to me that in the USA, what people think about OSM is one of
these two:
(a) A project for hackers and couch potatoes who trawl their county web
pages and other
On 4/4/15 8:29 AM, Mike Dupont wrote:
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com
mailto:nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
If the two were layers in the same database, or if they have been
tagged using railway=dismantled and railway=abandoned, then it's no
problem to
Thanks so much, Serge - seriously. Your apology means a lot to me.
Happy mapping!
Eleanor
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Eleanor Tutt eleanor.t...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, Serge.
As a member of the chapter board,
Russ,
Replies in-line. I also mention my work in the DWG, but I'm not
representing the DWG here, just reporting on what happened.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Brad Neuhauser writes:
So, is the argument here that we should no longer delete features
Hi all,
I have been reading most of the exchange about the different approaches.
My take on it is that the entire discussion is missing something that is in
my view much more important than the quality of the data at the moment of
important:
I am much more worried about imports for a completely
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Eleanor Tutt eleanor.t...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Serge.
As a member of the chapter board, I feel a bit erased? misrepresented? by
your email. It hurt, especially because I think you and I share some common
ground about why we map and that it is important to feel
Hi Frederik,
On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
On 04/04/2015 07:20 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
I just don't want to be called a couch potato in the course of it ;-)
Seriously, I believe Frederik was more referring to how OSM is viewed by
third
On 4/3/2015 5:32 PM, Eleanor Tutt wrote:
I'm interested in hearing more about how and why people contribute to
the map.
It's just a hobby for me, a way to get out and learn some obscure
facts about a place. Most contributions come from a GPS survey or
local observation. Although I
On 4/3/2015 9:17 AM, Richard Welty wrote:
i think the long term future of OSM will probably involve more
OHM like projects to supplement OSM. my question is how will
the core OSM community treat them? right now it seems very
mixed.
I think it's a great idea. There may be some definition
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org wrote:
TIGER is much older than reasonably portable GPS units.
According to [1] pre-TIGER paper map sources were below the quality of the
1:100,000 DLG data outside of urban areas. Many of the crazy spaghetti data
areas we see
The OpenStreetMap database covers the whole world. It's often too resource
intensive to do processing on the whole world's dataset at once, so often
third party applications will use extracts of data. It sounds like you are
using an extract of data which doesn't fully cover the area you are
I feel the OSM project is missing a major opportunity to find mappers, by
focusing on finding mappers.
Instead find enthusiasts for . It
could be RV toilets, street art,
abandoned railways (ahem), free book stands, fairy houses, whatever.
OSM is far behind
On 2015-04-03 22:25, Russ Nelson wrote:
Greg Morgan writes:
* In my case, TIGER isn't all the that bad.
In some NY counties, TIGER is very good. In other places it is like
Stevie Wonder was in charge of quality control. What I've heard is
that the maps they were digitizing off were of MUCH
On 2015-04-04 05:23, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:
Brad Neuhauser writes:
If you want to know how serious abandonfans are, I've see people go
looking in farmer's fields with a metal detector looking for spikes,
and dig down 12 to
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:23 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
But if you can't discover them while on the ground, eg if there's been
a building placed over it, if the area has been paved over, or is now
used as a field, then I see two problems:
1. It's not possible to validate
exceptions, I believe the GR issue is still unsolved).
Yes, all of that is fair game. Though I don't know what the GR
issue is, and ask you to please clarify.
Sorry for the late answer, been on the road for two days and now are
on a rather flaky network connection. See
Am 04.04.2015 um 18:40 schrieb stevea:
Re: [Talk-us] Facts about the world
I respectfully and strenuously disagree. We still (and likely will)
continue to have some predictable and manageable problems with import
of data from third party sources, but we have procedures in place to
make
Am 04.04.2015 um 17:03 schrieb Alex Barth:
I just don't want to be called a couch potato in the course of it ;-)
Couch carrot? :-P
Seriously, I believe Frederik was more referring to how OSM is viewed by
third parties and the impression outsiders could get from the image we
tend to market. And
On 4/3/2015 10:06 PM, Eleanor Tutt wrote:
Paul - If perception of mapping in the US isn't aligning with reality,
we probably *do* need to do a better job as a chapter board of telling
the full story. I see what you mean about the blog posts, though I do
think your interpretation is a bit
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Minh Nguyen m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
wrote:
On 2015-04-03 22:25, Russ Nelson wrote:
Greg Morgan writes:
* In my case, TIGER isn't all the that bad.
In some NY counties, TIGER is very good. In other places it is like
Stevie Wonder was in charge of
Creating that enthusiasm is a huge challenge (anyone remember
CloudMade's ambassadors?)
I do! That's how I discovered OSM back in 2009. Thank you Sarah
Manley, where ever you are.
SteveA
California
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If I am correct, probably confused, the map sets only go as far east as -76
West, which excludes the Outer Banks of North Carolina. How do I get maps that
go further east?
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OSM started out with the do-it-yourself, clean room approach of
on-the-ground surveying. It offers the strongest guarantee of legal
compliance and appropriateness for OSM -- no legal analysis
required. All of us certainly hold such efforts in the highest
esteem, but I do see an argument for
Hi,
On 04/04/2015 07:20 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
I just don't want to be called a couch potato in the course of it ;-)
Seriously, I believe Frederik was more referring to how OSM is viewed by
third parties
Indeed. I don't have much exposure to US Americans outside of OSM but in
the few
On Apr 4, 2015, at 1:36 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Indeed. I don't have much exposure to US Americans outside of OSM but in
the few interactions like that I had, if people did have any conception
about OSM it usually fell into one of the two categories I mentioned -
On 4/4/2015 1:04 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote:
I wonder if it was even about the resolution in some counties. It's as
if the data was traced off a cartogram, or maybe reconstructed from a
table of intersections.
Or recorded with a GPS back in the days when the signal was scrambled,
that is with the
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote:
I am much more worried about imports for a completely different reason,
and that is data maintenance
If the external data were not imported, but kept in a separate
external-data layer, the situation could be
On 2015-04-02 17:41, stevea wrote:
Simon Poole writes:
Up to now OSM has drawn the line in such a way that stuff that is
signposted and is observable on the ground is fair game (with some
exceptions, I believe the GR issue is still unsolved).
Yes, all of that is fair game. Though I don't
TIGER is much older than reasonably portable GPS units. It was originally
developed for the 1990 Census, which means work began much earlier than that.
In 1990, handheld GPS units were not even available to the military.
Much of the original data was traced from paper maps (which is also true
So I think the issue of long term data maintenance is a separate issue from
that of imports though imported data may spotlight the issue more.
Agreed. Data maintenance is a much duller task than adding new data, and that’s
going to be an issue anywhere and has nothing to do with the origin of
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Jeff Klein jeff.klein...@gmail.com wrote:
If I am correct, probably confused, the map sets only go as far east as
-76 West, which excludes the Outer Banks of North Carolina. How do I get
maps that go further east?
Have you search for the Outer Banks in OSM? It
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