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I've corresponded with Edward during his prepartory work, and know
that the former is already in place. I've also checked random
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from Wikidata are being added to OSM. No text
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are accurate?
That sounds much like an edge case - a extreme-edge case, at that. How
many such villages are mapped in OSM? Isn't that what needs fixing?
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On 28 August 2014 12:04, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
On 27/08/2014 22:15, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Wikidata has data on each of these entities which either
isn't in OSM (who's the mayor of this town/ vicar of this church?)
OK - not sure how that's a benefit to OSM
should also put those
relationships (e.g. bridge=yes == Q12280) onto the Wiki page which
defines the tag; preferably as a parameter in {{KeyDescription}}.
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deployed (such as by the propposal
at hand), I expect editing tools to start fetching and displaying
related labels, in the user's preferred language(s).
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the database of a completely separate
project with different goals and structures.
Indeed. Who has suggested it should be?
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On 7 September 2014 11:45, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Generally we don't tag ownership but only access rights
What about operator= ?
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On 27 August 2014 17:47, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote:
I'd like to annotate these 70k objects in OSM with a Wikidata tag
automatically.
Can we now move forward with this?
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OTOH, see:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1436388260
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfin_Oak
for an extreme example ;-)
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communicated since then.
Should we presume the group is defunct, and mark the age accordingly?
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://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:bridgediff=prevoldid=1077814
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Awaterway%3Driverdiff=1122164oldid=976981
Of course, being OSM, some people already have objected to this...
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Data has been released here:
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/location_of_fire_hydrants
It's probably OS-derived, but may still be a useful aid to anyone
wanting to conduct their own survey; and the diameter values may be
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On 12 February 2015 at 13:55, Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote:
The comments were saying that vandalism is rare on OSM
Wikipedia sensibly offers this advice:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_stuff_beans_up_your_nose
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On 24 November 2014 at 11:28, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote:
This is a progress report about my attempt to match Wikidata items and OSM
objects automatically.
Where are we with this?
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and of course the scripts used should be open source.
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On 22 March 2015 at 16:20, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a really nice service. But I'm puzzled why you'd want it on the
wiki?
So that anyone can edit it, of course.
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to consider is that either method will incude some
errors. Which will include fewest, and which will inconvenience our
users less? How long will it take for all our entries for Domino's to
be manually updated, even after the signs are changed?
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reasonably be interpreted as
mere differences of opinion, as currently seen on Xxzme's talk page,
suffice in this regard. Likewise the four-month old notice from
January (where, I note, Xxzme's question went unanswered)
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Xxzme as you, and there's no certainly that he's yet aware of this
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On 11 May 2015 at 10:08, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Andy Mabbett wrote:
In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would
have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on
the user's talk page
No. Please remember that the primary means of discussion
On 4 June 2015 at 21:20, Julio Costa Zambelli
julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote:
Knowing ... which train is the local and the express in any given line
How can you tell?
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On 4 June 2015 at 18:48, Julio Costa Zambelli
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subway
Brilliantly detailed; just what I was looking for. Thank you.
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at
terminal 4) to the Airtrain stop at Federal Circle; then a free
Aitrtain shuttle service to Jamaica *only*. The queues [sic] were
horrendous, and disorganised.
I got the E train from Jamaica to 14th St; your directions were most
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Ironic, given our subject of interest...
I've searched online, but found no directions from JFK to the New
Shool's 13th Street Residence, nor walking directions from there to
the UN building.
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be the desire to
extend the concept
This is not a can of worms; but Wikidata does offer far more than names.
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guides to pronunciation, and in
some cases links to audio files.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English - as used in
Wikipedias.
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and cultural variations. Just like city in OSM.
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a method for non-logged-in users to see them.
The
closest thing I see is the list of wikipedia articles, which has the
problem mentioned above.
Those are not the labels
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On 28 May 2015 at 09:50, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote:
On 27/05/2015 22:56, Andy Mabbett wrote:
A demonstrator, using Wikidata labels, is:
http://googleknowledge.github.io/qlabel/demo/map/ (choose select
language). Coders might enjoy viewing the source code.
That's interesting
On 29 May 2015 at 09:58, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2015-05-28 23:00 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:
On 28 May 2015 at 09:50, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
e.g. the en:Spanish Steps / de:Spanische Treppe are
called Scalinata di
On 29 May 2015 at 09:57, Arch Arch 7h3.a...@gmail.com wrote:
If the foreign name differs from the transliteration I think no one would
oppose to add the name into the OSM database.
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and am givng two talks.
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has an entry for
every street in the Netherlands.
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could play that role, and take the burden off of
us? Or is Wikidata not mature enough for that yet, or even unsuitable?
While it continues to develop, it is already mature enough, suitable
and available for this purpose
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Wonder how our friends in NZ will tag/ have tagged this:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/home-property/nz-gardener/69848179/the-man-who-grew-a-church-from-trees
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Wikdata item IDs.
If you haven't yet started to tag OSM objects with Wikidata IDs, today
would be a great day to start!
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> CycleStreets
+! to that; it's superb - I particularly like that it lets you choose
between fast and quiet routes, or an intermediate grade.
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worked on by Minh Nguyễn)
This is excellent news; thank you.
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).
As answered in those self-same discussions: the Wikipedia link is
volatile, the Wikidata ID is virtually permanent. The latter is also
not language-centric.
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hing a bot could clean up, daily or weekly
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On 21 January 2016 at 00:39, Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> wrote:
>>
>> I've linked that Wikidata item to the parent company (which has a
>> series of Wikipedia lin
On 21 January 2016 at 07:14, Bryce Nesbitt <bry...@obviously.com> wrote:
> For chain stores I tend to add a link to the corporate website only
I thought we weren't supposed to do that?
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e as well.
Excellent!
I've linked that Wikidata item to the parent company (which has a
series of Wikipedia links) - orphan items with no Wikipedia links are
liable to be deleted from Wikidata.
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:
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if these tourist attractions could be rendered in the
default map.
We could agree an additional tag if necessary.
A list of such figures may be found at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_figure
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allocating street names (while ensuring no
duplicates), allocating numbers to properties/ entrances, hosting a
lookup database, etc.
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age.org/wiki/Brussels
so that others may find and benefit from it.
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t; or "Volkswagen Mini", nor a "BurgerKing Happy Meal". for
example).
> So we are looking for a new name. We have some ideas already but I wanted to
> ask
> if you had any suggestions for a new name for OSV?
OpenStreets
OpenVista
OpenPanorama
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I'm speaking (about Wikipedia and Wikidata, not OSM - though it may
get mentioned ;-) ) in Pristina, Kosovo, next week, at "Software
Freedom Kosova 2016: SFK16":
http://sfk.flossk.org/sfk16/
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ld be a degradation,
with a loss of data. My local library, for example, offers Internet
access, but not Wi-Fi - I can use their PC, but not my device.
Or do you mean to change wi-fi=yes to internet_access=wi-fi ?
The proposal is not clear.
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On 3 January 2017 at 09:11, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To my knowledge, there is no site where one could add a set of OSM IDs that
> need attention
There is, and you can edit it yourself:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page
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, you should
apologise to the good people whose hard work has seen many thousands
of Wikidata tags usefully - and automatically - added to OSM.
* not anecdotes.
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are used
> more than once.
Link, please. There are circumstances where it is legitimate for a
Wikidata value to be used more than once.
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On 4 January 2017 at 15:24, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/01/2017 15:08, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> On 4 January 2017 at 13:09, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do my comments on http://www.openstreetmap.org/cha
the claim "Wikidata tags in OSM are already of low
quality" goes.
Or would you accept a single random bad tag on OSM as evidence that
"tags in OSM are already of low
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On 4 January 2017 at 15:55, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 04/01/2017 15:36, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> Please quantify that; against the total number of Wikidata tags.
> 214 changes in that changeset; at first glance 82 civil parishes in there
> likely to be
On 4 January 2017 at 15:38, Christoph Hormann <chris_horm...@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 January 2017, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> There are circumstances where it is legitimate for a
>> Wikidata value to be used more than once.
>
> Then you'd need to change the
t was completed.
This is also true of several other, disparate, parts of the globe.
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knows the area they are
> working in has the time to add Wikidata tags.
As has been made clear in other discussions in which you have been
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y are
> swamped with an undiscussed import or because they made a mistake
> themselves and ask for help after getting in trouble with others about
> it.
It seems to me that precisely the opposite is true. But as we've both
offered zero evidence for our beliefs, they should each carry no w
On 18 December 2016 at 21:40, Edwin Smith <e.smit...@ymail.com> wrote:
> 1) Destination is for the use of the navigation program.
That's a form of "tagging for the renderer".
Besides, if you wan to record, literally, what's on a sign, use
something like 'transcription=
it has been altered in any way.
I didn't miss that; I wrote:
if you want to record, literally, what's on a sign, use
something like 'transcription='
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On 25 December 2016 at 17:17, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Beware Pokemon users
You appear to have accidentally typed "Beware Pokemon users", where
the correct subject would be "Please Welcome Pokemon users".
HTH, and Merry Christmas!
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On 10 April 2017 at 14:57, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi Andy,
> Your JOSM settings are stored here:
>
> C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Roaming\JOSM\preferences.xml
Thank you. That was missing, but I was able to restore a backup, one I
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ght data for the Portuguese mast)
> One could also add a "wikidata" tag
For Sutton Coldfield, that tag is on the while station, not just the mast.
What about tagging the anchor points and cables, as mentioned in my
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ically strip these tags on upload?
What editing tool are you using.
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points -
how should those be tagged?
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incorrect link).
The commonest error I have found is wikidata=Qnnn instead of
brand:wikidata=Qnnn for franchises like McDonalds and petrol stations.
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On 22 September 2017 at 22:08, SwiftFast <swiftf...@gmx.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to change my Wiki username?
It should be - email me off-list and I'll take a look (maybe tomorrow).
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On 21 September 2017 at 08:17, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> As far as I am aware, all bus routes have to be wheelchair accessible by
> law.
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t, all around the globe. I know
> that in Israel, @SwiftFast uses a template to keep them in sync for gas
> stations and ATMs, but we need a more generic solution.
They should be easy to find by looking for items with the same QID,
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ease build a QA process
> based on the un-imported data and import it once you have fixed the
> problems.
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On 20 September 2017 at 12:50, JB wrote:
> Le 20/09/2017 à 13:05, Oleksiy Muzalyev a écrit :
>> It would give a boost to the Wikidata project.
>
> Am I really reading from an OSM mailing list here?
Yes. I read that as "the project at
a local mapper? In Jakarta, Doha, Cairo, Larnaca, Istanbul, or
Warsaw?
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I've not seen anyone advocate that.
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> I am inclined to concur.
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her good example of misleading and wrong information via
> wikidata.
No, it's an example of wrong data in OSM. Albeit on a single object:
way/25716765
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On 1 October 2017 at 14:03, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/10/2017 13:05, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> And now you're making things up.
>>
> just two posts earlier in this thread you said
>
>> I don't think this kind of sarcastic hyperbole hel
oing; the two are not
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o link to Wikipedia articles, and other useful
third-party sources?
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between OSM and Wikipedia."
> and misinterpreting constructive
> critique of that as an attempt to tell local mappers what tags they may
> and may not add to the things they map.
And now you're making things up.
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On 28 September 2017 at 11:23, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28/09/2017 11:13, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> On 28 September 2017 at 09:53, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> "objects named after Leuven"
>>&g
On 27 September 2017 at 17:31, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
> On 27/09/17 16:48, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> On 27 September 2017 at 16:06, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>>> critically I'd prefer to see the wikipedia pages containing a
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/wikidata=Q118958 or even
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/wikipedia=nl%3ALeuven
Objects named after Leuven MUST NOT be tagged "wikidata=Q118958", nor
"wikipedia=:Leuven"
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ww.wikidata.org/wiki/Q18983100
is the Wikidata item about an ornamental gate, made by a locally
well-known artist, which exists in OSM as:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2312982822
Never in a million years will it qualify for its own Wikipedia article.
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which level of wikidata integration we would like to
> see, and reach a consensus on this.
It seems to me that such consensus was reached a long while ago, and
that only you and a couple of other people refuse to accept this.
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