Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:03:19 +0700GMT (3-1-2008, 3:03 +0100, where I live), you wrote: RO Ouch! I'd go crazy when all filters were thrown in one group. TF You don't need to do that. snip TF You can still have them seperated, nobody forces you to use them for TF both Incoming and

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M I'm sure many of us have a number of filters checking on From: in M Incoming filters and on To: in Outgoing, and having a single filter M for Incoming and Outgoing and filtering on From: .OR. To: may not M be exactly the same. A simple example: M I receive email from, and write

Wrong Folder tabs position when is display resolution changed

2008-01-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello, I am using notebook with resolution 1280x800 and LCD monitor with 1440x900 resolution. Sometimes when I restart system with LCD plugged, TB starts, but Folder tabs position is wrong and area of app/desktop under The Bat! is displayed between tabs and status bar. In screenshot, You can see

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:06:26 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 17:06 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF You can still have them seperated, nobody forces you to use them for TF both Incoming and Outgoing. Tick only one of the boxes, it's that TF easy. RO But that would be self defeating for a

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 03:27:46 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 09:27 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: In fact, you can work the same way you work now, if you tick only Incoming in one set, and only Outgoing in another. The wish will *allow* you (not force you) to make a filter have both

Re[4]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, GP The thing that amazes me is that people can continue to argue that TB GP Imap does not work while so many of us here attest otherwise. A matter of usage behaviour, I suppose. If I start TheBat at nine in the morning and at ten have to discover that it's not like nobody would have sent me

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:10:52 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 18:10 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M - If From: A .OR. To: A, move to folder A. M - If From: B .OR. To: B, move to folder B. M And now assume A writes to B and just CCes me. Where would this message M end up? And where if it is B who

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Thomas, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:08:01 +0700GMT (3-1-2008, 14:08 +0100, where I live), you wrote: TF If you want to seperate them, you have many choices. Two come to mind: What you're suggesting is that Ritlabs break something that's rather good at the moment and now you're thinking of ways

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Roelof, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:57:48 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 20:57 +0700 GMT), Roelof Otten wrote: TF If you want to seperate them, you have many choices. Two come to mind: RO What you're suggesting is that Ritlabs break something that's rather RO good at the moment and now you're thinking

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:01:55 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 21:01 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: If A sends to B, or B sends to A, and they CC to you, both are now covered by Incoming filters. M Of course, but where do the two messages end up? To answer the question M you just have to be as dumb as

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Sean Rima
Hi Sean Rima, On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 23:02:59 GMT Sean Rima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tried to send an image to the list showing that thebat showes no imap mail when in fact there is unread mail. Now I have an image of showing the folder list with it showing unread mail but not which folder

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, If A sends to B, or B sends to A, and they CC to you, both are now covered by Incoming filters. Of course, but where do the two messages end up? To answer the question you just have to be as dumb as computers are and do exactly what the code (filter conditions and actions) tell

Re: Options/Confirmations not sticky

2008-01-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, January 3, 2008, Peter Hampf wrote: Hello tbbeta, has this been reported before? I have changed the setting in Options/Preferences/Other Options/Confirmations for the Marking folder as read option from off to on. After restarting TB 4.0.0.6/Alpha the options

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, M If the filters are: M - If From: A .OR. To: A, move to folder A. M - If From: B .OR. To: B, move to folder B. M Do they end up in the same folder, yes or no? That depends on the order of your incoming filters, Did you read my first reply to you? You are not getting my

Re[2]: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Cees
Het was donderdag 3 januari 2008 om 15:48 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'One kind of filters' : Hallo MAU, M If the filters are: M - If From: A .OR. To: A, move to folder A. M - If From: B .OR. To: B, move to folder B. M Do they end up in the same folder, yes or no? That depends on the order

Re: Options/Confirmations not sticky

2008-01-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, January 3, 2008, Peter Hampf wrote: MM confirm, but in reversed order https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6621 confirmed. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello MAU, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:48:47 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 21:48 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M Do they end up in the same folder, yes or no? That depends on the order of your incoming filters, M Did you read my first reply to you? Yes. You are not getting my point: M And quite certainly you

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Thursday, January 3, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: You are not getting my point: let me reply again with other reasons against your idea, I am not generally against it, but I am sure, it will limit of usage and whole Filtering system will be unintuitive. Let me describe why.

Re[5]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Gleason Pace
Alto, GP The thing that amazes me is that people can continue to argue that TB GP Imap does not work while so many of us here attest otherwise. A matter of usage behaviour, I suppose. If I start TheBat at nine in the morning and at ten have to discover that it's not like nobody would have

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Cees, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:54:12 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Cees wrote: M Did you read my first reply to you? You are not getting my point: M And quite certainly you are not getting mine. I give up! :) C I'd say the priority has some influence also. Won't it? Priority of

Re: Options/Confirmations not sticky

2008-01-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:24:01 +0100GMT (3-1-2008, 15:24 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PH I have changed the setting in Options/Preferences/Other Options/Confirmations PH for the Marking folder as read option from off to on. PH After restarting TB 4.0.0.6/Alpha the options

Some url's in HTML-messages are being truncated when the use of smiley icons is turned on.

2008-01-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Beta-Bats, Some url's in HTML-messages are being truncated when the use of smiley icons is turned on. See: Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor-Use Smiley Icons in HTML Viewer See BT : https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6622 -- Best Wishes, Mark using The

Re: Options/Confirmations not sticky

2008-01-03 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:54:23 +0100GMT (3-1-2008, 16:54 +0100, where I live), you wrote: PH I have changed the setting in Options/Preferences/Other Options/Confirmations PH for the Marking folder as read option from off to on. PH After restarting TB 4.0.0.6/Alpha the options

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Dwight A Corrin
On Thursday, January 3, 2008, 8:07:18 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: BTW my wish would also benefit those who use gmail and its derivates (like thebat.net) on mailing lists. How? From you suggestions, the first thing I see is that one would have to go through and rename all their existing filters

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Sean Rima
Hi Gleason Pace, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:12:30 -0500 Gleason Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alto, GP The thing that amazes me is that people can continue to argue that TB GP Imap does not work while so many of us here attest otherwise. A matter of usage behaviour, I suppose. If I start

Re: Some url's in HTML-messages are being truncated when the use of smiley icons is turned on.

2008-01-03 Thread Konrad Szkudlarczyk
Hello, Mark. On the third January 2008 You wrote: Some url's in HTML-messages are being truncated when the use of smiley icons isturnedon.See: Options-Preferences-Viewer/Editor-Use Smiley Icons in HTML Viewer See BT :

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Added to bugtrack https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6620 with piccies https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880 -- Best regards, Vilius Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Options/Confirmations not sticky

2008-01-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Roelof, on Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:59:49 +0100GMT (03.01.2008, 16:59 +0100GMT here), you wrote: PH I have changed the setting in Options/Preferences/Other Options/Confirmations PH for the Marking folder as read option from off to on. PH After restarting TB 4.0.0.6/Alpha the options is set

Re: Options/Confirmations not sticky

2008-01-03 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Peter, on Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:01:21 +0100GMT (03.01.2008, 17:01 +0100GMT here), you wrote: PH Answering a current message (Thursday, January 3, 2008, 16:54) PH Good evening Roelof, RO Can't confirm. PH Maybe (again) an OTFE related issue? Probably not, as I observe the same as Roelof. --

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Hi, On Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 3:54:17 PM, Gary wrote: I don't have to think, I know. says it all You should not take someones thoughts out of the context. I'm with Gary here. We, the admins and IT pros, KNOW how IMAP works. And you know what? There is *nothing* special about it. It's

Re: Some url's in HTML-messages are being truncated when the use of smiley icons is turned on.

2008-01-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Konrad, Thursday, January 3, 2008, 5:56:11 PM, you wrote: KS I don't know which version of this file do You use, but if You'll add KS '\*' to the first exclusion a link from your message will works. I don't know what version it is either. Opened it with EditPad Pro and changed the third

Re[6]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hello Gleason, Other people may have other definitions. GP No, other people have at least that definition. Even Thunderbird can GP do that much. Indeed. So what does it say to you that TheBat can't EVEN do that much? GP TB users (like me) usually have a number of other message handling GP

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Vilius, Thursday, January 3, 2008, 6:40:27 PM, you wrote: VŠ If I were a product manager at RitLabs I've VŠ done one of the things: VŠ a) Split POP3 and IMAP TB! into two separate products. POP3 version VŠ with all the advanced filters, virtual folders, etc. into one. --8-- That would be

Re[2]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Sean Rima
Hello Vilius, Thursday, January 3, 2008, 5:09:08 PM, you wrote: Added to bugtrack https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6620 with piccies https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4880 Ok maybe should be linked Sean -- Sean Thawte, GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer I believe that every human

Re[2]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Gleason Pace
Vilius, You should not take someones thoughts out of the context. I'm with Gary here. We, the admins and IT pros, KNOW how IMAP works. And you know what? There is *nothing* special about it. It's not a rocket science. Without IMAP extensions it can be easily implemented as fast as in 3-4

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread randy
On 1/3/2008, Gleason wrote: Actually, what I see is that not one email client developer has done a good complete job of implementing Imap, as easy as you say it is. TB has come closest. Actually, this is not correct. Mulberry is by far the best, most complete, and most capable IMAP client.

Re[2]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Gleason Pace
Randy, Actually, what I see is that not one email client developer has done a good complete job of implementing Imap, as easy as you say it is. TB has come closest. Actually, this is not correct. Mulberry is by far the best, most complete, and most capable IMAP client. Unfortunately, it

Re[2]: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Gleason Pace
Randy, On 1/3/2008, Gleason wrote: For me, complete includes things that Mulberry does not do, such as better than primitive html/graphics handling, notes attached to messages. And Mulberry does have performance issues too. No, MB doesn't make the cut. The issues you point out have

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread randy
On 1/3/2008, Gleason wrote: For me, complete includes things that Mulberry does not do, such as better than primitive html/graphics handling, notes attached to messages. And Mulberry does have performance issues too. No, MB doesn't make the cut. The issues you point out have nothing to do

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Marek, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:09:03 +0100 GMT (03/01/2008, 22:09 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: MM let me reply again with other reasons against your idea, I am not MM generally against it, but I am sure, it will limit of usage and MM whole Filtering system will be unintuitive. Let me

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Thomas Fernandez
Hello Dwight, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:18:16 -0600 GMT (03/01/2008, 23:18 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: BTW my wish would also benefit those who use gmail and its derivates (like thebat.net) on mailing lists. DAC How? Because Gmail doesn't send your messages back to you when you send them

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, January 3, 2008, 7:33:40 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: BTW my wish would also benefit those who use gmail and its derivates (like thebat.net) on mailing lists. DAC How? Because Gmail doesn't send your messages back to you when you send them to a mailing list. You need to use

Re: Imap

2008-01-03 Thread Dwight Corrin
On Thursday, January 3, 2008, 3:56:28 PM, Gleason Pace wrote: And Mulberry does have performance issues too. and it was not commercially sustainable. -- Dwight A. Corrin 1201 W River Blvd Apt B108 Wichita KS 67203 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The

Re: One kind of filters

2008-01-03 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008, at 18:38:48 [GMT +0100] (which was 18:38 where I live) Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: Added a note ;-) I added a note because I have some dozen of private maps/folders, not mailinglists. In which the relevant messages arrive and theirs answers. I supported this wish first because