Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-04 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, November 03, 2004 at 11:11:39 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: >> That's your server side outbox doing that. > So is the solution to just uncheck "Outbox:" under Mail > Management/IMAP Options? Yes. That's the setting. Tell me how it goes with DUMeter. -- -= Allie =- . F

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-04 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, November 04, 2004 at 4:42:26 PM [GMT -0500], Martin Webster wrote: > My IMAP server is on a home network and TB! was configured to > disconnect from the server when idle for 5 seconds. I only retrieve > message headers. I've never really used this setting except for at work where my

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-04 Thread Martin Webster
Allie Martin [AM], wrote: >> Following Allie's lead I have played around with the various settings >> and come up with optimum settings for my server. Perhaps we should >> start sharing this information, get confirmations etc. so Ritlabs can >> have an IMAP wizard based on server/connection type

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-04 Thread Keith Russell
By the way, I also have Gmail accounts to give away. :-) -- Keith Current beta is 3.0.2.4 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-04 Thread Keith Russell
Clive Taylor wrote: I'm concerned about running into bandwidth problems, at least with Fastmail. You shouldn't be. A full account with FastMail gives you 600Mb of storage while an enhanced a/c gives 2Gb. I was referring to bandwidth, not storage space. Even an enhanced membership allows just 1 GB

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-04 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Clive, A reminder of what Clive Taylor typed on: 04 November 2004 at 08:37:45 GMT +0100 CT> I can give you an invite if you, and anyone else, wants one, (I have CT> four left to give away). First come, first served! PM to my address. I'd love to have a g mail account to play with if y

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-03 Thread Clive Taylor
> I'm concerned about running into bandwidth problems, at least with > Fastmail. You shouldn't be. A full account with FastMail gives you 600Mb of storage while an enhanced a/c gives 2Gb. If space is an issue why not use a Gmail a/c (1Gb storage) and forward old mail there? I can give you an invi

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-03 Thread Keith Russell
Allie Martin wrote: the same thing happened as a couple of days ago: 30 copies of the message in the Outbox, all created one minute apart! So I'm back to using Thunderbird That's your server side outbox doing that. So is the solution to just uncheck "Outbox:" under Mail Management/IMAP Options

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-03 Thread Keith Russell
Clive Taylor wrote: Keith, My two IMAP servers are FastMail and MailSnare, and there's no doubt that Mailsnare is the slower of the two here using TB but that might be because its message base is bigger than FastMail's. However, I don't notice the difference between the two accessing them via Mulbe

Re: [the_bat] Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-03 Thread Michael Acklin
Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 10:49:47 AM, (Internet Time - @742) you wrote: Hello Clive, CT> Keith, My two IMAP servers are FastMail and MailSnare, and there's no CT> doubt that Mailsnare is the slower of the two here using TB but that CT> might be because its message base is bigger than FastMail

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-03 Thread Clive Taylor
> Some of my problems might be on MailSnare's end, or might have to > do with the route between here and there, considering that other > users don't seem to have the number of problems that I have with > both Mulberry and TB! Keith, My two IMAP servers are FastMail and MailSnare, and there's no

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-03 Thread Allie Martin
On Wednesday, November 03, 2004 at 1:19:28 AM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: > I tried to send this using TB! several hours ago. In trying to > determine why it hadn't showed up on the list, I found that the same > thing happened as a couple of days ago: 30 copies of the message in > the Outbox

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-02 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Allie. I tried to send this using TB! several hours ago. In trying to determine why it hadn't showed up on the list, I found that the same thing happened as a couple of days ago: 30 copies of the message in the Outbox, all created one minute apart! So I'm back to using Thunderbird O

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-02 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004 at 10:27:00 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: > Actually, under Mail management in Account Properties, I have Outbox > set to INBOX.Drafts, which of course is on the server. Of course, I > also have Sent mail set to INBOX.Sent Items, and it does nothing. TB! > doesn

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Martin Webster wrote: Keith Russell [KR], wrote: KR> Now, however, I can confirm others' reports of random long pauses KR> when downloading message bodies. Like Clive, this has KR> always been a problem for me. As I reported previously, I see KR> similar, but even longer pauses (sometimes) when mov

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Clive Taylor wrote: Rather than echo all of what Allie has said in his reply I can confirm that (unlike Allie) I can't rely on TB for everyday, real-world IMAP use. It's just so frustrating to wait for a couple of minutes for messages to display while TB churns away. I can see my router working so

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: This is normally connected to moving messages from one folder to another. If you delete the cache everything is fine again. I move message from my Inbox to a common folder and if I then copy/move a message from another folder to my Inbox it doesn't show up at all or it is

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Allie Martin wrote: On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:32 PM, Martin Webster wrote: Following Allie's lead I have played around with the various settings and come up with optimum settings for my server. Perhaps we should start sharing this information, get confirmations etc. so Ritlabs can have a

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Allie Martin wrote: On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:41 AM, Keith Russell wrote: I thought I had sent this off an hour ago, and I just discovered SEVENTEEN copies in my Outbox! How did that happen?!!! Seems that you have your Outbox server side. I'd make that local, unless you depend a lot on

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Keith Russell
Hi, Raymund. Raymund Thomas Tump wrote: Looking at the messy quoting I'm glad staying with TB! :-) :-) Yes, that is one thing TB! does do better. Of course. I meant to mention that, but forgot. I understand that performance will not be as good with IMAP as with POP3. I can't see why it should be a

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:32 PM, Martin Webster wrote: > Following Allie's lead I have played around with the various settings > and come up with optimum settings for my server. Perhaps we should > start sharing this information, get confirmations etc. so Ritlabs can > have an IMAP wizar

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Allie Martin [AM], wrote: AM> For some time, my experience was that with the synchronisation options AM> for TB! set to work like ThunderBird's sync routines, their performance AM> is about the same. Where ThunderBird get's the better of TB! is when AM> you're forcing it to fulfil multiple reque

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Raymund Tump [RTT], wrote: >>> Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I >>> just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was >>> only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong >>> message. >> Now that's really odd. I don't really ha

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:41 AM, Keith Russell wrote: > I thought I had sent this off an hour ago, and I just discovered > SEVENTEEN copies in my Outbox! How did that happen?!!! Seems that you have your Outbox server side. I'd make that local, unless you depend a lot on keeping drafts a

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Allie Martin
On Monday, November 01, 2004, at 02:14 AM, Clive Taylor wrote: > Allie has the opposite experience, so resolving IMAP problems is > probably going to be a compromise. I wouldn't say opposite. It isn't that bad. My experience is that both clients have their problems when I use them. I'm more willi

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Webster
Keith Russell [KR], wrote: KR> Now, however, I can confirm others' reports of random long pauses KR> when downloading message bodies. Like Clive, this has KR> always been a problem for me. As I reported previously, I see KR> similar, but even longer pauses (sometimes) when moving between KR> fol

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi Keith, > (What is that, anyway?) As a result, this reply will be sent > using Mulberry. Looking at the messy quoting I'm glad staying with TB! :-) > Of course. I meant to mention that, but forgot. I understand that > performance will not be as good with IMAP as with POP3. I can't see why it

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-11-01 Thread Raymund Thomas Tump
Hi TBBeta, >> Worse yet, I sometimes click on a message and get the wrong body! I >> just displayed five unread messages in a folder. Of the five, I was >> only able to read one. The other three all linked to the wrong >> message. > Now that's really odd. I don't really have an explanation for su

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-10-31 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, Allie. I thought I had sent this off an hour ago, and I just discovered SEVENTEEN copies in my Outbox! How did that happen?!!! And after trying again to post using TB!, I now have two more. :-( One has an icon in the second column; the second doesn't. (What is that, anyway?) As a result, t

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-10-31 Thread Clive Taylor
Rather than echo all of what Allie has said in his reply I can confirm that (unlike Allie) I can't rely on TB for everyday, real-world IMAP use. It's just so frustrating to wait for a couple of minutes for messages to display while TB churns away. I can see my router working so it's not a matter of

Re: 3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-10-31 Thread Allie Martin
On Sunday, October 31, 2004 at 11:49:01 PM [GMT -0500], Keith Russell wrote: > I haven't posted for a while because it seemed that no one was having > the long pauses that I was experiencing with IMAP. Someone (Allie, I > think) suggested that they might be due to the large number of > messages I

3.0.2.4: VERY Weird Behavior Duplicate Behavior, and Threading

2004-10-31 Thread Keith Russell
Hello, fellow Bat-lovers. I haven't posted for a while because it seemed that no one was having the long pauses that I was experiencing with IMAP. Someone (Allie, I think) suggested that they might be due to the large number of messages I have on the server. This seemed strange to me, since, with