Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

Alexander S. Kunz: > AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls). St: > True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_ > short intervals. Or? Roelof Otten: > But nevertheless it is extremely short. When a server has multiple > users with suc

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

Hallo St, On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 02:25:04 +0200GMT (27-8-2004, 2:25 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> AFAIK you're running TB permanently (and at very short poll intervalls). SMN> True - although 30 seconds isn't what I would consider to be _very_ short SMN> intervals. Or? But nevertheless i

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

s checking thebat.IPC - because (as you later found out): "TB itself writes the .IPC file when you access it via the commandline?!?". Yes, it does - I have always said that (or at least implied it strongly)! :) It was crucial in the discussion and is a major reason for topic of &qu

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Re: "Some tasks are now active"

Hello dAniel hAhler, 18-Aug-2004 19:13, you wrote: > TB first wants to delete the THEBAT.IPC file (where it writes the > command line "/EXIT" into) and than exits. Wait a minute... TB itself writes the .IPC file when you access it via the commandline?!? Ouch, I didn't know that. -- Best regard

[St's TB Annoyances] Re: "Some tasks are now active"

Hello TBUDL, on Sat, 14. Aug 2004 at 18:05:37 +0200 Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >> Repeat: How do you send TB that /EXIT command (or whatever IPC >> command) when TB fails to read the file that contains the request? > ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. File. ** > ** You. Do. Not. Need. The. IPC. F

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

Alexander S. Kunz: > Have you investigated why this is happening? SysInternals > FileMon may be of help. Maybe your on-access virus scanner > blocks the file, something like that? Funny that you ask - I am currently running FileMon here (with an exclusive logging of thebat.IPC-accesses. Wha

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] "Some tasks are now active"

Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 16:04, you wrote: > Now, exactly how do you send TB that /EXIT command when TB fails > to read the file that contains the request!?! GREAT! You can issue an "thebat.exe /EXIT" command and it will quit the running instance of TB. You don't need the .IPC file

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 17:35, you wrote: > My point is this: For no reason, TB may at any time simply stop > looking for thebat.IPC - and thus TB won't know of the _future_ > commands you "send" it (by the way of the command line). Have you investigated why this is happening? S

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

St: > ..."exactly how do you send TB that IPC command when TB fails > to read the file that contains the request"!?! Alexander S. Kunz: > You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which > passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the > helpfile, too. Don't be

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

Hello St - Musaic.Net, 14-Aug-2004 16:17, you wrote: > "exactly how do you send TB that IPC command > when TB fails to read the file that contains the request"!?! You don't send an IPC command, you use the command line which passes its commands to the running TB instance. That is in the helpfi

[St's TB Annoyances] thebat.IPC

From the TB help file: "For those who are familiar with programming, here's a handy hint: The Bat! checks a file called TheBat.IPC which is located in the same directory in which The Bat! executable (TheBat.exe) file is located. Within this text file, each line represents one command t

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] "Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar"

Alexander S. Kunz: > Options/Preferences/General -> Display Connection centre -> HIDE Thanks - there is always something to learn! -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] "Some tasks are now active"

St: > You want to exit and restart TB or reboot the PC. This is pretty > easy to do while in front of the PC - but if TB is downloading > mail unattended it is a totally different story! Alexander S. Kunz: > According to the help file the command line helps: > > "The /EXIT command is used to

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

St: > TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows+M > and see for yourself. Allie Martin: > TB! disappears/minimizes here. Andre Wichartz: > It depends on whether you have TB! set to show in the task bar. I can confirm this. Options -> Preferences -> General, _check_ "Do

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

St: > Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to > exactly so? Thomas Fernandez: > No, I haven't. But I have noticed that I need to invoke "check mail > for all" in order to ensure that periodical mail check will occur. I do, too. My problem is that I usually will

Re[2]: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hi Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 2:41:18 PM, Allie Martin wrote: AM> St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: >> TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- >> button + M and see for yourself. AM> TB! disappears/minimizes here. Here, TB! behaves as I would expect if it is the only window op

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hello Dan! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:40 PM, you wrote, in part: MB>> Okay. Thanks. I was confused by the terminology. I have a keyboard, MB>> with such a key. When "button" was mentioned, I thought an on-screen MB>> button was meant. :) DG> In support of Mary (or was it Mary-Alice?), Lewis Ca

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hi Scott, Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:26:41 -0500 (11:26 AM EDT here) you wrote: > Hello Mica! > On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 10:18 AM, you wrote: MB>>> Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote MB>>> about? MM>> You should get so called "MS" (some call it "Windows") keyboard. MM>>

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was Tue, 27 Jul 2004, at 16:43:29 -0400, @ @ when rich gregory wrote: >>> Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote about? MM>> You should get so called "MS" (some call it "Windows") keybo

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Andre Wichartz, [AW] wrote: AM>> TB! disappears/minimizes here. > It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in the task bar. Ok. I set TB! to not be shown on the taskbar. If I restore TB! from the systray and then hit Win-D, TB! simply loses focus but isn't minimized. However, it's minimize

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

Hello St, On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:31:26 +0200 GMT (27/07/2004, 20:31 +0700 GMT), St - Musaic.Net wrote: SMN> Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to SMN> do exactly so? No, I haven't. But I have noticed that I need to invoke "check mail for all" in order to ensure

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] "FETCH - Server reports error"

Hello St, On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:21:30 +0200 GMT (27/07/2004, 20:21 +0700 GMT), St - Musaic.Net wrote: SMN> Scenario: I use TB to download mail 24 hours a day – mostly SMN> unattended downloading and processing mail. [...] SMN> [ Message contains picture - read it here: SMN> http://www.mus

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hello Jernej! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 10:20 AM, you wrote: MB>> I don't have any such Windows Button to go with a + M. JS> Unless you have a very old 102 or 101-key keyboard (or and IBM lap-top), you JS> definitely have the Windows Logo key. One is located between left Ctrl and JS> Alt, the o

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] "Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar"

Hello St - Musaic.Net, 27-Jul-2004 15:21, you wrote: > “Connection Centre” should minimize to System Tray, not Windows > Taskbar!”. I have TB check for and download from three accounts at a 30 > seconds interval and the (non-timely) pop-in appearance of the > “Connection Centre” in the Windows Ta

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hello Mica! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 10:18 AM, you wrote: MB>> Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote about? MM> You should get so called "MS" (some call it "Windows") keyboard. It has MM> additional button between Crtl and Alt. Okay. Thanks. I was confused by the termi

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] "Some tasks are now active"

Hello St - Musaic.Net, 27-Jul-2004 15:21, you wrote: > You want to exit and restart TB or reboot the PC. This is pretty > easy to do while in front of the PC - but if TB is downloading > mail unattended it is a totally different story! According to the help file the command line helps: "T

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 16:44:36, Mary Bull wrote: > I don't have any such Windows Button to go with a + M. Unless you have a very old 102 or 101-key keyboard (or and IBM lap-top), you definitely have the Windows Logo key. One is located between left Ctrl and Alt, the other is between right Al

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

Hello St - Musaic.Net, 27-Jul-2004 15:31, you wrote: > check mail every 30 seconds That is a very short interval. Some POP3 servers may not be able to cope with it. Have you tried setting it to something like 3 Minutes and see what happens? -- Best regards, Alexander ___

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ***^\ ."_)~~ ~( __ _"o Was Tue, 27 Jul 2004, at 09:44:36 -0500, @ @ when Mary Bull wrote: > Still, I want to know, how can I have that button St. M wrote about? You should get so called "MS" (some call it "Windows") keyboard. It ha

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hello Andre! On Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 9:17 AM, you wrote: AM>> St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: St>>> TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- St>>> button + M and see for yourself. AM>> TB! disappears/minimizes here. AW> It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in th

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Tuesday, July 27, 2004, 6:32:28 AM, you wrote: SMN> TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- SMN> button + M and see for yourself. You might find that the "Show Desktop" icon is not visible but rather is in the pop up list at the right of the quick start icons. I can get

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Hello Allie, On 27 Jul 2004 at 08:41:18 -0500 GMT [15:41 CEST] you wrote: AM> St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: >> TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- >> button + M and see for yourself. AM> TB! disappears/minimizes here. It depends on wether you have tb! set to show in

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:32:28 +0200 (9:32 AM EDT here) St - Musaic.Net wrote: > TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- > button + M and see for yourself. TheBat! does react to Windows+M on my system. TheBat! also reacts to the Show Desktop button on the Taskbar. I use: The B

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

On Tuesday, July 27, 2004 @ 9:32:28 PM, St - Musaic.Net wrote: [snips] St> TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- St> button + M and see for yourself. What do you mean: "does not react"? For me, doing that minimises everything (including TB) and I see the desktop. -- c

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] View Message Source

St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: > “View Message Source” should not (default) to show the code of the > attachments. Big messages take a long time to open on a modest PC. > In message source attachments could be represented by an icon that > one could click on to see the code. Sounds like you wish t

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

St - Musaic.Net said: > TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- > button + M and see for yourself. > Not confirmed. Works fine here. -- Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/the

Re: [St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

St - Musaic.Net, [SMN] wrote: > TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- > button + M and see for yourself. TB! disappears/minimizes here. -- -=[ Allie Martin ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com The Bat! v2.12.04 on WinXP Pro (SP1)

[St's TB Annoyances] "Some tasks are now active"

You want to exit and restart TB or reboot the PC. This is pretty easy to do while in front of the PC - but if TB is downloading mail unattended it is a totally different story! [ Message contains pictures - read it here: http://www.musaic.net/tb/warning.htm ] -- St _

[St's TB Annoyances] Windows "Show Desktop"

TB does not react to Windows “Show Desktop” – try Windows- button + M and see for yourself. -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

[St's TB Annoyances] Command line parameter: /PARK

Command line parameter PARK doesn’t work with importing of messages. -- St Current version is 2.12.00 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

[St's TB Annoyances] Message Dispatcher

Double-clicking a message in Message Dispatcher does NOT open the message. And when you do open it by hitting Enter, and then select “Message” -> “Move to Folder”, the message is copied to the folder (and not deleted from server). -- St __

[St's TB Annoyances] Periodical Checking (of mail)

Anyone having problems with Periodical (Mail) Checking that fails to do exactly so? I have four accounts that checks mail. Accounts 1, 2, and 4 is set to check mail every 30 seconds, the third is set to check every 30 minutes. But at the time of writing (12:49PM CET) TB hasn't checked

[St's TB Annoyances] View Message Source

“View Message Source” should not (default) to show the code of the attachments. Big messages take a long time to open on a modest PC. In message source attachments could be represented by an icon that one could click on to see the code. -- St _

[St's TB Annoyances] "FETCH - Server reports error"

Scenario: I use TB to download mail 24 hours a day – mostly unattended downloading and processing mail. I have TB redirect mail to some friends (my system checks for spam and/or virus and redirects a message if none is present). Every now and then I reboot the PC (remotely). From time to

[St's TB Annoyances] "Connection Centre pop-up in Taskbar"

“Connection Centre” should minimize to System Tray, not Windows Taskbar!”. I have TB check for and download from three accounts at a 30 seconds interval and the (non-timely) pop-in appearance of the “Connection Centre” in the Windows Taskbar is pretty disturbing! For example, say that I

Re: TB! annoyances

Hello Stuart, On Fri, 7 May 2004 17:53:33 -0500 GMT (08/05/2004, 05:53 +0700 GMT), Stuart Cuddy wrote: SC> Please see the following bug report and add to it. It deals not only SC> with the Unread tab, but also to any folder that is filtered to show SC> unread messages only. The bug was reported b

Re[3]: TB! annoyances

Hello Stuart, Friday, May 7, 2004, 6:56:43 PM, it was said: DAC>> when you have scrolled down in a long message, DAC>> then attempt to click on something there, for instance to block for DAC>> reply or to open a link, the message jumps to the top. S> I have tried to describe this behavior in th

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

Hello Dwight, Friday, May 7, 2004, 9:54:39 AM, you wrote: T>> My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am T>> currently reading when after a mail check there are no unread T>> messages in that folder any more. The message currently displayed T>> in the preview pane should st

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

Hello Thomas, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 10:27:32 PM, you wrote: TF> My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am currently TF> reading when after a mail check there are no unread messages in that folder any TF> more. The message currently displayed in the preview pane should sta

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On 07 May 2004, 00:24 +0700 (07/05/2004 18:24 local time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MW>> This seems to demonstrate that the latest release isn't as polished as MW>> it could be... a little rushed don't you th

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

Hello Thomas, Friday, May 7, 2004, 1:25:41 PM, you wrote: DAC>> when you have scrolled down in a long message, DAC>> then attempt to click on something there, for instance to block for DAC>> reply or to open a link, the message jumps to the top. T> I cannot confirm that. Is it possible he meant

Re: TB! annoyances

Thomas, On 07-05-2004 19:25, you [TF] wrote in : TF> I cannot confirm that. I can. Does not happen every time, however. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 2.10.03 Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Current versio

Re: TB! annoyances

Hello Martin, On Fri, 7 May 2004 13:00:54 +0100 GMT (07/05/2004, 19:00 +0700 GMT), Martin Webster wrote: MW> This seems to demonstrate that the latest release isn't as polished as MW> it could be... a little rushed don't you think? No, it's just a new feature that has a little quirk. TF>> I can

Re: TB! annoyances

Hello Dwight, On Fri, 7 May 2004 09:54:39 -0500 GMT (07/05/2004, 21:54 +0700 GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: T>> My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am T>> currently reading [...] DAC> Yes. And the fact that when you have scrolled down in a long message, DAC> then attemp

Re: TB! annoyances

On Thursday, May 6, 2004, 4:31:53 PM, rich gregory wrote: r> 3. I have a NEW item to add (why haven't I or others asked yet, or r> have we)? r> Can't I sort the TRASH folder by date/time DELETED? I'd like to be able to keep track of filtering better. Searching there should be possible, and it sh

Re: TB! annoyances

On Thursday, May 6, 2004, 10:27:32 PM, Thomas Fernandez wrote: T> My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am T> currently reading when after a mail check there are no unread T> messages in that folder any more. The message currently displayed T> in the preview pane should s

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Thomas, On 07 May 2004, 03:27 + (07/05/200404:27 local time) Thomas Fernandez [TF] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TF> My current pet peeve is that the Unread tab loses the message I am currently TF> reading when after a mail check there ar

Re: TB! annoyances

Martin Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need > resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug > fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no > order of importance... My current

Re: TB! annoyances

Hello Martin, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 9:05:59 PM, you wrote: MW> Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need MW> resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug MW> fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no MW> order of

Re[2]: TB! annoyances

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Maggie, On 06 May 2004, 17:26 -0400 (06/05/200422:26 local time) mm Meister [MM] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MM> Perhaps a tenth could be: If you click on any text (including a link) the MM> cursor jumps to another site in the message vie

Re: TB! annoyances

Hello Martin, Thursday, May 6, 2004, 4:05:59 PM, you wrote: M> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- M> Hash: SHA1 M> Hello TBUDL, M> Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need M> resolution. M> Okay, so I was scraping the barrel to get to ten. :-) Perhaps a tenth could

TB! annoyances

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello TBUDL, Here are a few things that are hardly bugs but do nonetheless need resolution. I guess they're not as important as proper IMAP support, bug fixing etc. but nonetheless will lead to a more polished product. In no order of importance... 1.

Re: Macro / Template annoyances

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:45:01 +0100 GMT, Stuart Hemming wrote: SH> Try SH> %ACCOUNT%-, %QUOTES%-, etc SH> The %- suppresses the newline. GREAT! Thank you! Will try it right now! -- Pixie TB! v2.00 on Windows 95 (4.0.1212 C) Current version is 2.

Re: Macro / Template annoyances

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 P> Is there a way that despite the apparent new placement requirements P> that I can keep macros such as %ACCOUNT, %QUOTES, etc from adding P> their own new lines? Try %ACCOUNT%-, %QUOTES%-, etc The %- suppresses the newline. - -- Stuart Using The B

Macro / Template annoyances

Hi, Apparently macro placement has become more critical in v2.00 - I was able to use %ACCOUNT anywhere in the (AB) template with 1.62r where now it will break (if placed below) %fromname. Why would I do that? Because of the annoying blank lines that are added to a message when templates use certa

Importing to Address Book Annoyances

I've found two minor annoyances when importing addresses into TB from a tab-delimited file. I import only three fields from my database: first name, last name, and email address. First annoyance: TB uses the first record in my file to determine which fields from my file should be matched

Re: Annoyances

Hello MartianRover, On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 at 07:37:27 GMT -0800 (which was 7:37 AM where I live) witnesses say MartianRover KF6KNC typed: >And Januk, there is a way to arrange the headings in the order you >want. Its in the same place where you select which ones you want >or don't

Re[2]: Annoyances

Hi Marck & Januk :) Thanks for answering my questions. :) That was easy enough. I should have looked around a little more before asking, I might have been able to figure that out. And Januk, there is a way to arrange the headings in the order you want. Its in the same place w

Re: Annoyances

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi MartianRover, On 28 October 2000 at 23:35:35 GMT -0700 (which was 06:35 where I live) MartianRover KF6KNC wrote and made these points: MK> The first is the expansion of addresses while typing the name or MK> nick name of the address you want. Som

Re: Annoyances

Hello MartianRover, On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 at 23:35:35 GMT -0700 (which was 10:35 PM where I live) witnesses say MartianRover KF6KNC typed: > Is there anyway around that? Yes, but I'm not fully familiar with it. As a result, I'll let others tackle this question. > My second question.

Annoyances

Hi Bat! Listers, There are a couple things that bug me about the Bat!, and they are items that might be fixable, so I'm writing to ask. The first is the expansion of addresses while typing the name or nick name of the address you want. Sometimes it works, sometimes it do