On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:54:34 +0700, Thomas Fernandez
wrote:
>Hello Bill,
>
>On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:25:01 -0700 GMT (28/Aug/09, 13:25 PM +0700 GMT),
>Bill McQuillan wrote:
>
>>> I didn't even know that, but it will make Bill happy. :-)
>
>BM> It might if v2.11 had such an option! :-)
>
>Ah, forgo
On Fri, 2009-08-28, MFPA wrote:
> Hi
> On Friday 28 August 2009 at 7:25:01 AM, in
> , Bill McQuillan wrote:
>> Regardless, there are many other reasons I prefer the
>> Windows editor. And for the issue of not wrapping the
>> final output when I send, when I am finished editing
>> and proofing a
Hi
On Thursday 27 August 2009 at 8:53:46 PM, in
, Peter Meyns wrote:
> This is a good one for April fools! :D
Not sure I understand how it would be good for April Fools, since that
setting really exists and has that functionality.
--
Best regards
MFPA
He's a
Hi
On Friday 28 August 2009 at 7:25:01 AM, in
, Bill McQuillan wrote:
> Regardless, there are many other reasons I prefer the
> Windows editor. And for the issue of not wrapping the
> final output when I send, when I am finished editing
> and proofing a message, I quickly switch to the
> MicroEd
Hello Bill,
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:25:01 -0700 GMT (28/Aug/09, 13:25 PM +0700 GMT),
Bill McQuillan wrote:
>> I didn't even know that, but it will make Bill happy. :-)
BM> It might if v2.11 had such an option! :-)
Ah, forgot about your version number. Sorry.
BM> Regardless, there are many othe
On Thu, 2009-08-27, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
> Hello MFPA,
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:09:37 +0100 GMT (28/Aug/09, 2:09 AM +0700 GMT),
> MFPA wrote:
>>> If you prefer to the Windows standard then (no, I'm not going to say
>>> "use the Windows editor" ) you can hit the "End" key. It will
>>> place th
Hello MFPA,
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:09:37 +0100 GMT (28/Aug/09, 2:09 AM +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:
>> If you prefer to the Windows standard then (no, I'm not going to say
>> "use the Windows editor" ) you can hit the "End" key. It will
>> place the cursor behind the last character as you desire.
M>
Hi MFPA,
on Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:09:37 +0100GMT (27.08.2009, 21:09 +0200GMT here),
you wrote:
M> Or you could remove the tick from "Free caret positioning" at
M> Options | Preferences | Viewer/Editor | Editor preferences |
M> MicroEd-specific options. (-;
This is a good one for April fools! :D
Hi
On Thursday 27 August 2009 at 5:52:00 PM, in
, Thomas
Fernandez wrote:
> If you prefer to the Windows standard then (no, I'm not going to say
> "use the Windows editor" ) you can hit the "End" key. It will
> place the cursor behind the last character as you desire.
Or you could remove the t
Hello Bill,
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:18:09 -0700 GMT (27/Aug/09, 13:18 PM +0700 GMT),
Bill McQuillan wrote:
BM> I guess that I don't find the misleading colors as annoying as I do that in
BM> MicroEd I cannot click somewhere out to the right of a line and have the
BM> cursor appear just after the l
On Wed, 2009-08-26, AC wrote:
> For the Windows editor that you mentioned above, try this and tell me
> if it works:
> --start a new email message (make sure it's in the Windows editor
> mode)
> --copy a paragraph of text from somewhere else (internet, etc.)
> --Go back to the email, and right-
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:49:07 +0100, Marck D Pearlstone
wrote:
>Dear Ac,
>
>@24-Aug-2009, 21:11 -0700 (25-Aug 05:11 here) AC [A] in
>mid:t5o695t0hjcsj5ikdtgls8h3hbcv4h1...@4ax.com said:
>
>...
>A> All I want to do is to have automatic wrapping and to be able to press
>A> the Enter key ONCE and st
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:29:11 -0700, Bill McQuillan
wrote:
>BTW, my Windows editor seems to color quoted text appropriately.
Thank you for your explanation. It was very helpful and I appreciate
it. I'm a little more calm about it. i guess I just ahve to decide
which editor I want to use.
For
On Mon, 2009-08-24, AC wrote:
> All I want to do is to have automatic wrapping and to be able to press
> the Enter key ONCE and start a new line. I just don't understand why
> the developers and users are opposed to this.
I think that you need to understand the architecture of the MicroEd to se
Dear Ac,
@24-Aug-2009, 21:11 -0700 (25-Aug 05:11 here) AC [A] in
mid:t5o695t0hjcsj5ikdtgls8h3hbcv4h1...@4ax.com said:
...
A> All I want to do is to have automatic wrapping and to be able to press
A> the Enter key ONCE and start a new line. I just don't understand why
A> the developers and users
auto-format enabled?
Why do I want this? So that wrapping will work in MicroEd the way
most Windows users are used to. I will go through the details and the
common responses that I expect from this group.
Reaction #1
"Why don't you just use the Windows editor?"
Well, I like the
On Thursday, May 23, 2002, Jernej Simončič wrote...
> Hello Jonathan,
JA>> I personally think OE is one of the worst products Microsoft
JA>> conceded... but that is my opinion ;) I won't get into MS bashing on
JA>> here though ;)
> I don't think so. OE would be a great e-mail client
Hello Jonathan,
23. maj 2002, 17:30:08, you wrote:
JA> I personally think OE is one of the worst products Microsoft
JA> conceded... but that is my opinion ;) I won't get into MS bashing on
JA> here though ;)
I don't think so. OE would be a great e-mail client for it's price,
*if* i
On Thursday, May 23, 2002, Matt Thoene wrote...
> Why is there an OE supporter even subscribed to this list?? :]
I personally think OE is one of the worst products Microsoft
conceded... but that is my opinion ;) I won't get into MS bashing on
here though ;)
--
Jonathan Angliss
([EM
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:33:29 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote:
>> > I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd knock the exe size down by
>> > maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out Outlook Express' exe
>> > file...
>>
>> You are comparing apples and oranges... an Editor feature t
Hi Nick,
On Wed, 22 May 2002 21:49:04 -0700, you wrote:
> > I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd knock the exe size down by
> > maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out Outlook Express' exe
> > file...
>
> You are comparing apples and oranges... an Editor feature to an entire
> A
Hello Jonathan Angliss,
On Wednesday, May 22 2002 at 09:00 PM PDT, you wrote:
> I dare say if the developers removed it, it'd knock the exe size down by
> maybe 50kb... hardly bloat seeing the size out Outlook Express' exe
> file...
You are comparing apples and oranges... an Editor feature to
Hi Ricardo,
On Thu, 23 May 2002 00:51:06 -0300, you wrote:
> I think it's too much work to consider it usefull. Considering all the
> other freeware software that can perform better than SB, it enters
> exactly on the bloatware team.
I'd not consider it bloatware... I dare say if the developers
El miércoles 22 de mayo de 2002, 16.36, Costas Papadopoulos decía:
>> Is there any way to have independent settings between the message
>> editor and the smart bat? I think I like the auto-format in the
>> editor, but definitely not in the SB.
CP> Why don't
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Hello Ricardo,
Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 10:32:32 PM, you wrote:
> Is there any way to have independent settings between the message
> editor and the smart bat? I think I like the auto-format in the
> editor, but definitely not in the SB.
W
yesterday I started to use Auto-Format and since then I notice that
the Smart Bat uses it also, although it's not checked in it's
utilities menu.
I don't mind that the auto format is ON in the smart bat, but the
problem is that if I open it and type write away, the new text
magica
Hello Ricardo M. Reyes,
On Wednesday, May 22 2002 at 12:32 PM PDT, you wrote:
> Is it clear? I'm not sure how to describe it.
No, you are clear. That was also one of my complaints with this 'SmartBat'
thing, and no... I was not prepared to hit the 'Enter' Key to start on a
new line. As you ment
u get.
Your solution is:
you don't need to highlight anything in order to re-format long lines.
Just switch the Auto-format on by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+F, and then
insert a space anywhere inside the long line and again delete that
space using the backspace key. The long line will instantl
uldn't. Alt-L will (or Alt-J for justified reformat).
Ctrl-Shift-F toggles auto-format on and off on-the-fly. If it is on,
the simple typing a space at the end of the last pasted line will
reflow the text.
TJL> What's the solution to reformat an overly long line -- or will
TJL> theBat
Hello Timothy,
On Friday, August 31, 2001 at 8:15:33 AM you wrote (at least in part):
TJL> What's the solution to reformat an overly long line
select the line and use '+L' for left bounded re-wrapping :-)
(See 'Utilities' / 'Format Block' for the other three :-])
--
Regards
Peter Palmreuther
If I paste a really long line into a Compose window, it doesn't wrap.
So I highlight the line and do control-shift-F to reformat it.
But it doesn't.
What's the solution to reformat an overly long line -- or will theBat do it when I hit
send?
TjL
--
Hello TBUDL!
I wonder if there's any way to turn auto-format automatically off when
mailing/replying to a certain message-list? It seems that I *never*
remember to press shift+ctrl+F until I hit Enter for the first time...
--
Best regards,
Pete
Using The Bat! v
On 14-5-2000, 14:34:44, Khine Bo wrote:
KB> Is there a way whereby an inserted cookie (if it exceeds the maximum
KB> row-length) would auto-wrap itself? As can be seen below, the line
KB> extends beyond the margin if I don't manually format it.
Hi Khine,
I use auto-wrap and while creating
Hello Khine,
On Sunday, May 14, 2000 at 20:34:44 GMT +0800 (which was 5:34 AM
where I live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed:
> Is there a way whereby an inserted cookie (if it exceeds the maximum
> row-length) would auto-wrap itself? As can be seen below, the line
> extends beyond the margin
Is there a way whereby an inserted cookie (if it exceeds the maximum
row-length) would auto-wrap itself? As can be seen below, the line
extends beyond the margin if I don't manually format it.
~~
Khine Bo
Hi Fred,
On Monday, May 08, 2000, 10:52:15 AM, you wrote in part about "Auto Format":
F>> If the problem is the same as what I experienced this past weekend,
F>> AutoFormat is not the problem. I have it turned off and I was having
F>> the cursor drop below the bott
Hi Fred,
On Monday, May 08, 2000, 10:22:13 AM, you wrote in part about "Auto Format":
F> If the problem is the same as what I experienced this past weekend,
F> AutoFormat is not the problem. I have it turned off and I was having
F> the cursor drop below the bottom of the
> I am having a real problem with the above. In order to keep the
> cursor from scrolling down and not being visualized as I am typing,
> one must have Auto Format on, or it seems. Every time I set the
> darn thing, it turns itself off again. This happens with composing
Hi TBUDL,
I am having a real problem with the above. In order to keep the
cursor from scrolling down and not being visualized as I am typing,
one must have Auto Format on, or it seems. Every time I set the
darn thing, it turns itself off again. This happens with composing
new mail
Wednesday, May 03, 2000, 9:26:41 AM, Michael wrote:
> Yes, Steve's message was rude. But: Apart from the flaming I can't find
> any wrong statement in there. He's not being nice, but he's right with
> what he's saying in terms of the topic.
Trust me, the moderators have dinged me for it. I
Hello Gary,
on Tue, 2 May 2000, at 17:13:57 sender's local time (timezone UTC-0600),
Gary Luther wrote:
GL> Well it finally happened. the "autoformat" topic went over
GL> the edge. Not only has it wasted a lot of bandwidth but it has
GL> also shown that if a topic is discus
Hello Alexander,
on Tue, 2 May 2000, at 16:32:46 sender's local time (timezone UTC+0400),
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
>> My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve
>> everything.
AVK> Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium
AVK> there is no w
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 5:58:49 PM, Allie wrote:
> The reason why I wish to clarify this is because with TB!, when composing
> and the lines get wrapped, these CR's, although inserted by the editor,
> really equate to hard CR's. The wrapping isn't redone upon sending as far
> as I can tell. This is
Hi List,
this thread makes me wonder if I have a "delete thread on server"
option in the message dispatcher. I certainly don't want to download
this thread at NT$ 60/hour, average about 1K/min, when I get home.
Thanks.
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Message reply created with The Bat! 1.41
under Chine
Hello All;
Well it finally happened. the "autoformat" topic went over
the edge. Not only has it wasted a lot of bandwidth but it has
also shown that if a topic is discussed long enough that it will
eventually bring out the worst side of us. Hm!!
SUGGESTION:
On Tue, 2 May 2000 14:48:06 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
8<
> Simple. The block which is a paragraph is the one defined with a hard CR
> and the one that is not is defined with a soft CR. How TB! defines those is
> up to the internal logic which is, as I demonstrated, not limited to the logic
Hi Allie,
On Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 7:37:56 PM, you wrote in part about "auto-format is too
robotic isn't it?":
A> OK, I understand what you were saying and see that it will indeed
A> work though in a limited fashion. It was a problem with the wording
A> of what you
On Wed, 3 May 2000 01:25:04 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
8<
> In my previous message I suggested that the indented line should be
> considered as the paragraph _boundary_, note further that I suggested
> this only as a quick fix to what we have right now (see also below).
> This would me
use those soft returns at all. I do not use soft
AVK> returns in my work. I do not use Word and wordprocessors alike. And I'm still
AVK> alive, and my health is perfect;-)
If you are using auto-format, you're using soft returns. There's no
two ways about it.
AVK> Did you r
Hi there!
On 2 May 00, at 15:38, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?":
Okay, this has been my last message to this list. I'm sick and tired of those
AMERICAN IDIOTS over here who can only shout, can only be unnecessarily
rude to others.
>> My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve
>> everything.
AVK> Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no way
AVK> for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and the hard
AVK> returns inserted by the line-wrapping
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 3:14:59 PM, Alexander wrote:
> Mistake #1 on your side: you think plain ASCII is a limitation of some
> (unknown to me) sort, whereas _I_ think ASCII is a _power_, a well-thought
> standard that those guys who invented "soft returns" and things alike (read:
> M$ with its Wor
Hi there!
On 2 May 00, at 14:48, Steve Lamb wrote
about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?":
> Mistake #1. You're thinking that there are only lines. I see only data
> which can be represented any number of ways. Let's just say that just
>
Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 2:25:04 PM, Alexander wrote:
> Allie, no personal offence, please! I didn't mean to insult you, just wanted
> to stress the idea that if we stay on the grounds of _plain_text_ medium, we
> need to take into account that there is _no_ paragraph concept applicable to
> this me
Hi there!
On 2 May 00, at 14:57, Allie Martin wrote
about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn't it?":
> > Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is
> > no way for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and
> >
On Tue, 2 May 2000 16:32:46 +0400, Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:
> Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is
> no way for the program to distinguish between _your_ hard returns and
> the hard returns inserted by the line-wrapping algorithm?
Pardon my slowness for ma
Hi there!
On 1 May 00, at 19:40, Allie Martin wrote
about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn'":
> My suggestion would be, never to cancel hard returns. This should solve
> everything.
Allie, will you please understand that within plain/text medium there is no wa
the initial indentation of paragraphs. The auto-format
doesn't.
> No it won't :-). That is, if you have just the above paragraph.
> ALT-L/R/J keeps indentation in paragraphs.
Not on my system.
Only auto-format keeps them. Alt+L get's rid of them. If you're speaking
of
Dear Allie,
you wrote on Tuesday, May 02, 2000, 02:40:35:
[snip]
AM> I write:
AM> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
AM> The line above is not to be auto-formatted. I then decide to re-edit and
AM> insert some extra words.
AM> The quick brown fox, before making a gr
return that it tends to remove/cancel. Preventing this would
stop a lot of the headache.
The quick template editors have auto-formatting enabled if you have
auto-format enabled in the editor window. Quite troublesome if you ask me
since this is not the case across all templates and auto-format is rea
On Mon, 1 May 2000 18:05:33 -0500, Randy Robinson wrote:
> Hello Lionel,
> Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote:
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LEM>> Hello rellieb-cal,
LEM>> Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote:
rc>>> Do I have to place a blank line
Hi there!
On 1 May 00, at 18:05, Randy Robinson wrote
about "Re: auto-format is too robotic isn'":
> You've found the one thing I hate about TheBat! It's the best
> program around, but I guess you can't have everything! It has a
> very strange i
Hello Lionel,
Monday, May 01, 2000, 3:38:09 AM, you wrote:
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LEM> Hello rellieb-cal,
LEM> Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote:
rc>> Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs
LEM> Yes, you do.
You've found the on
On Mon, 1 May 2000 09:36:30 +0100, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:
>> if I intend to indent the first line of that new paragraph with a
>> few blank spaces or whatever.
> Sadly auto-format denies the possibility of using paragraph indent. It
> suits my purposes perfectly
Hi rellieb-cal,
On 01 May 2000 at 13:13:01 GMT +1000 (which was 04:13 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "auto-format is too robotic isn't it?":
> Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs
Yes.
> if I intend
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Hello rellieb-cal,
Monday, May 01, 2000, 5:13:01 AM, you wrote:
rc> Do I have to place a blank line in between these paragraphs
Yes, you do.
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Lionelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Bat folk
I have started to use Auto-Format in Bat editor, and I wonder how to
make a hard-return in some situations. For example, with wrap-text set
at 70, I type a line like
a particular type of cartridge, and wonder if you are doing it right.
and as soon as I type a space at the end of
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Hey Randy,
Tuesday, December 28, 1999, 9:33:43 PM, you wrote:
RR> We had a debate about this bug, and it seems that someone thought
RR> this is the way things ought to work! I don't know if it was one
RR> of the developers or just a user, but
Hello Xiangrong,
Thursday, December 09, 1999, 11:41:21 PM, you wrote:
XF> Hello TBUDL,
XF> I hoped that a nasty bug introduced in 1.36 would be fixed in
XF> 1.38, but it wasn't :( Here it is:
XF> While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual line
XF>
Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
TF>>> I reported the same some time ago and was told it is a feature, not a
TF>>> bug. :-(
XF>> Who said its a feature? :( With this *feature* the auto-format is
XF>> totally unusable!
Almost totally
Hi Xiangrong,
on Friday, December 10, 1999, 2:06:41 PM GMT+0800, Xiangrong Fang wrote:
XF>>> While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual
XF>>> line breaks. unless you use a blank line between paragraphs,
XF>>> new line will always be joined
Hello Thomas,
Friday, December 10, 1999, 1:54:54 PM, you wrote:
XF>> While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual
XF>> line breaks. unless you use a blank line between paragraphs,
XF>> new line will always be joined to last line (I selected
XF>&g
Hi Xiangrong,
on Friday, December 10, 1999, 1:38:13 PM GMT+0800, Xiangrong Fang wrote:
XF> While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual line
XF> breaks. unless you use a blank line between paragraphs, new line
XF> will always be joined to last line (I selected justif
Hello TBUDL,
I hoped that a nasty bug introduced in 1.36 would be fixed in
1.38, but it wasn't :( Here it is:
While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual line
breaks. unless you use a blank line between paragraphs, new line
will always be joined to last line (I sel
Hello TBUDL,
I hoped that a nasty bug introduced in 1.36 would be fixed in
1.38, but it wasn't :( Here it is:
While auto-format is selected, it is impossible to use manual line
breaks. unless you use a blank line between paragraphs, new line
will always be joined to last line (I sel
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