Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Mike Apsey
huge snip *IMPORTANT* E-MAIL* let's see. Is that an oxymoron? Yes, it most certainly is in my household and after more than a decade of promoting it, encouraging people to use it, and trying to take it seriously, I have finally decided to step back and look at what it is, what isn't, what it

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Thu 12-Jun-03 5:17pm -0400, Mark wrote: MainSet: 40a.+,a.+,a.+,a.+, AltSet:1: 40a.+ , a.+ , a.+ ,a.+ , AltSet:2: 40a.+, a.+, a.+, a.+, AltSet:3: 40a.+,a.+,a.+,a.+, Mark, wouldn't anything found by AltSet 1, 2 or 3 would also be found by MainSet? Also, the docs aren't clear which PCRE

Re[2]: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Joel Johnstone
Mark, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 3:50:17 PM, you wrote: M I think there are two schools of thought here. I for one prefer to M deal with spam with my own filters - the absolute last thing I want M is for some third party tool to decide what mail I get. I want to M understand EXACTLY how my mail is

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Mike Apsey
snip The filtering system you presented, if I remember correctly, rejects all HTML email out of hand. This seems kinda draconian to me. I'll bet a lot of those rejections are false positives. POPFile actually reads the HTML and can correctly distinguish spam-HTML from non-spam-HTML. To

Re[2]: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Joel Johnstone
Mike, Friday, June 13, 2003, 9:49:12 AM, you wrote: MA To this author, e-mail is text; HTML belongs on the web; HTML in MA e-mail is spam. MA Read my lips: Not a thing draconian about that logic. Ain't irony great? Anyway, if you're really interested in the topic, you might want to read:

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Mike, Friday, June 13, 2003, 11:49:12 AM, you wrote: To this author, e-mail is text; HTML belongs on the web; HTML in e-mail is spam. Read my lips: Not a thing draconian about that logic. Anyway, that's my (limited) experience. As you say, your experience is limited. While in

Re:A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Csaba Kiss
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 6:49:12 PM, you wrote: MA snip The filtering system you presented, if I remember correctly, rejects all HTML email out of hand. This seems kinda draconian to me. I'll bet a lot of those rejections are false positives. POPFile actually reads the HTML and can

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Mike Apsey
While in general I agree with your sentiments about HTML email, I do make exceptions for HTML newsletters, untrained family/friends, and the like. In my not-so-limited email experience I would agree that rejecting *all* HTML seems draconian. But if it works for you, so be it. Agreed. So be

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Mike Apsey
MA To this author, e-mail is text; HTML belongs on the web; HTML in MA e-mail is spam. No, it is not. Fine. Those who created e-mail, and I was present for that, are declared the losers, and those who want to send pretty flowers and silly pink backgrounds with their e-mails (never mind that it

Re:A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Csaba Kiss
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 7:44:22 PM, you wrote: MA Fine. Those who created e-mail, and I was present for that, are MA declared the losers, and those who want to send pretty flowers and MA silly pink backgrounds with their e-mails (never mind that it gets MA bloated 10-times necessary

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread neurowerx
Whilst I'm not a moderator of this list, may I remind the majority of you who are chatting in this thread that this list is about an email program called The Bat!, and not Spam filtering, the internet and privacy, and whatnot. Thank you. -- Best regards, neurowerx (http://www.neurowerx.de) In

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Roman Katzer
On Friday, June 13, 2003, 00:50:17, Mark wrote: I want to understand EXACTLY how my mail is triaged and why, particularly on my critical accounts. The programs I mentioned don't trash the mail, they mark it. What you do with it afterwards is left up to you. I use SpamAssassin on a mail server I

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Mike, Friday, June 13, 2003, 12:32:49 PM, you wrote: Nor are my uninformed/untrained family/friends sending me unsolicited commercial email when they send me HTML emails. Uninformed/untrained family/friends are, or should be, trainable by a respected and experienced user. You don't

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Roman Katzer
On Friday, June 13, 2003, 00:47:19, Joseph N. wrote: Any opinion about how either measures up to SpamPal? My opinio is that they'll do a better job, universally. Spammers will aways find open, still unidentified relays. When I'm not mistaken, SpamPal only queries RBLs. Don't always trust RBLs!

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Mike Apsey
The era of 28k modems are over. Get on with it! I could not care less if a message is 1 kb or 10 kb, or God forbid 1 Mb. If your logic continues, very soon even the present internet infrastructure will be inadequate. I have a commercial broadband account and am unafraid of a 200+ Megabyte

Re:A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Csaba Kiss
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 8:10:43 PM, you wrote: nwd Whilst I'm not a moderator of this list, may I remind the majority of you nwd who are chatting in this thread that this list is about an email program nwd called The Bat!, and not Spam filtering, the internet and privacy, and nwd whatnot.

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Mike Apsey
I have stated that while in general I do not like HTML email, but am willing to make specific exceptions. I have stated that for that reason, for my purposes I would consider a rejection of *all* HTML email as draconian. I have stated that classifying all HTML email as spam does not fit the

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Dave Gorman
Hello Mike, Friday, June 13, 2003, 1:40:52 PM, you wrote: Sorry Dave. I view dictionaries, as the late lexicographer David P. Guralnick said Dictionaries are historical documents, recording where a language was at the time it went to print (or words to that effect. The great Ambrose

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-13 Thread Allie Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Apsey, [MA] wrote: The era of 28k modems are over. Get on with it! I could not care less if a message is 1 kb or 10 kb, or God forbid 1 Mb. MA If your logic continues, very soon even the present internet MA infrastructure will be inadequate.

A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Mark
Dear Bats Here is a regex spam filter folks might find useful It picks up emails addressed to a whole bunch of people with the same starting letter or the same domain, eg in my case something like. [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] . or [EMAIL

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Roman Katzer
Hi Mark, On Thursday, June 12, 2003, 23:17:05, Mark wrote: Here is a regex spam filter folks might find useful [...] That is a good way to start, but there are more powerful spam filters. SAProxy is a Windows incarnation of SpamAssassin, a very widely used and thoroughly perfected spam filter

Re[2]: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Joseph N.
On Thursday, June 12, 2003, Roman Katzer wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RK SAProxy is a Windows incarnation of SpamAssassin, a very widely RK used and thoroughly perfected spam filter which looks for all RK kinds of clues in a mail. It gives positive points for spam RK indicators and negative

Re:A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Mark
RK Hi Mark, RK That is a good way to start, but there are more powerful spam filters. RK SAProxy is a Windows incarnation of SpamAssassin, a very widely used and RK ... RK training but seems pretty stable and dependable. I think there are two schools of thought here. I for one prefer to deal

Re:A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Csaba Kiss
Hello, Friday, June 13, 2003, 1:02:32 AM, you wrote: CK There's only one problem that I saw, which is CK negligible. If one receives an e-mail with a large attachment, K9 CK chews on it for quite some time. You can give it a try here: CK http://keir.net . I have just checked. The new 1.05

Re:A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Csaba Kiss
Hello, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 11:44:19 PM, you wrote: RK Hi Mark, RK On Thursday, June 12, 2003, 23:17:05, Mark wrote: Here is a regex spam filter folks might find useful RK That is a good way to start, but there are more powerful spam filters. RK [...] I used spampal with quite good

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Mike Apsey
snip I want to understand EXACTLY how my mail is triaged and why, particularly on my critical accounts. Unfortunately, it is my sad yet considered opinion the choice to do your own filtering is evaporating. My friend told me boastfully about how his Iowa (USA) ISP was Filtering his mail with a

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread ravi
Zero replies and zero comments on my earlier list post, which although posted in good spirit with a 3-hour compose time, was evidently a waste of time in the minds of the target audience, eh? Not so fast Mike. Just because there wasn't a long thread full of replies and opinions doesn't mean

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Leo Landa
Good day to everyone, You are going to laugh, but I signed up to this list just a day or two ago in order to find out a few things about TB in order to perfect the anti-spam mechnism that I just developed. Not really developed, just added a few final touches to known techniques. The resulting

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Thu 12-Jun-03 7:02pm -0400, Csaba Kiss wrote: snipped Csaba, you seem to be having a few macro problems. (1) The `Re:` in your subject line is not separated from the real subject. (2) You appear to be deleting the In-Reply-To line in the Kludges - this destroys threading (you also have no

Re: A Useful spam filter

2003-06-12 Thread Mike Apsey
It's easy to get jaded when you do something for the common good with little or no return. Trust me, I know. This is a busy list. Thanks for your comments. Jaded is indeed a good word for what I was feeling at the time my reply was written. I would add only that to work as designed, and after

Re[2]: pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-17 Thread Newsacct
Hello Andre, I tried SpamPal and although it worked ok, it seemed to bring my PC to a crawl whenever I popped. Have there been improvements to correct this or was it just me? I am going to checkout popfile now. Fred Sunday, March 16, 2003, 8:31:06 AM, you wrote: AW For now you can use

Re: pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-17 Thread Luc
Good evening Newsacct, It was foretold that on 17-3-2003 @ 10:12:03 GMT-0500 (which was 16:12:03 where I live) Newsacct would mumble: snipped a bit N I tried SpamPal and although it worked ok, it seemed to bring my PC N to a crawl whenever I popped. Have there been improvements to

pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-16 Thread Cathy
Is there a pre-made spam filter which i download and install into thebat? Anyway i hope that something like in mozilla 1.3 mailreader will come in futher releases of thebat. A junk tagging system that in time learns to spot new junkmail would be a great improvement. Kate

Re: pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-16 Thread Andre Wichartz
Hello Cathy, On Sunday, March 16, 2003, 14:14:01 +0100 GMT (which was 14:14 local time), Cathy wrote: C Is there a pre-made spam filter which i download and install into C thebat? Anyway i hope that something like in mozilla 1.3 mailreader C will come in futher releases of thebat. A junk tagging

Re: pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-16 Thread Luc
Good afternoon Cathy, It was foretold that on 16-3-2003 @ 14:14:01 GMT+0100 (which was 14:14:01 where I live) Cathy would mumble: snipped a bit C Is there a pre-made spam filter which i download and install into C thebat? There are plugins being developed at this moment: you can get more

Re: pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-16 Thread Miguel A. Urech
Hello Cathy, A junk tagging system that in time learns to spot new junkmail would be a great improvement. Use POPFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net/), it's unbeatable. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.62i

pre-made spam filter download?

2003-03-16 Thread Cathy
Does the vampire plugin use some kind of autolearning or is it a rulebased filter system? If it's rulebased where can i get predefined sets of rules? Kate Current version is 1.62 | Using TBUDL information:

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Adam, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 22:49:06 -0230GMT (28-6-02, 3:19 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses? Place the addresses in your address book in one group. What you've got to do is at the 'advanced' tab check 'address(es) must be listed in

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-28 Thread Marcus Ohlstrm
On Friday, June 28, 2002, 03:19, Adam wrote: How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses? Besides Roelof suggestion you can also make a .txt file with all addresses and filter against that one. This method does however only work with the Selective Download filter. -- Regards, Marcus

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-27 Thread Adam
How do you make a filter with dozens of addresses? -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators :

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-20 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Marck, Your SpamCop filters work great now. I've reported 32 spammers so far in just two days (should I be glad or sad? :) I haven't had any responses from ISP's yet. From what I understand, SpamCop will forward those to me. I was thinking that maybe I should use the comment field in the

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-20 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @21 June 2002, 02:11:23 +0200 (01:11 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In closing: Whenever spamcop.bat is run, it leaves a DOS window on my screen that has to be closed manually.

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Marck, All such bounce messages do, no matter how well intentioned or formed, is inform the spammer that the message got through. Oh boy.. Thanks for the enlightenment!! :) I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but I'm not sure if they work as intended. Here's what I

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the enlightenment!! :) A pleasure :-) I'm now trying those Spamcop filters from the TB FAQ, but

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Marck, MDP I always report to SpamCop (there are some nice filters for doing MDP this published on the FAQ) The second stage filter doesn't work right for me either.. it finds the incoming confirmation from Spamcop, then exports the whole message to spamcop.bat and tries to execute it! :)

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 14:38:09 +0200 (13:38 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The export format was Text, is that alright? Just spotted this - no, it should be Unix. What a pig's ear!

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Marck, MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters just yet.. I couldn't find a Paste button or anything like it in the Sorting Office, so I simply pressed Ctrl-V. Have I been stupid again? O :-) Best regards, -Daan-

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Matthias Appel
Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote: MDP All of which seem to have failed to import correctly :-(. Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on the faq page. 1st Filter: after Actions 2nd Filter: after

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daniel, @18 June 2002, 15:15:27 +0200 (14:15 UK time) Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Perhaps there's a bug in the filter paste function? Or I have missed something, so don't redo the filters

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Matthias, MA Ehm. Someone else already mentioned (maybe on the german mailing MA lists) that this problems are caused by some unwanted linebreaks on MA the faq page. Oops - that makes sense. I don't know why I didn't notice! I'll try again without the linebreaks and see how I fare.. Your

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Marck, @18 June 2002, 14:28:53 +0100 Marck D Pearlstone wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Here they are again: The MainSet property is wrong: MainSet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,-=[ Try again :-( ]- BeginFilter Name:

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Peter Palmreuther
Hello Daniel, On Tuesday, June 18, 2002 at 3:35:11 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): DvRC When I try to enter a high-ascii character using DvRC Alt-nnn, the Bat doesn't enter the character but instead performs all DvRC sorts of system functions (menu's

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Marck, MDP Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just MDP tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Matthias' hint about the broken lines on the website was right on target - I've got the filters working now. However, I had to make a small change to the second

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Thomas F
Hello Marck, On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 14:28:53 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 20:28 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP ,-=[ Spamcop reply Intercept ]- [...] MDP SaveTemplate: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A This

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @18 June 2002, 20:53:15 +0700 (14:53 UK time) Thomas F wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP SaveTemplate: MDP \22c:\5CProgram\20Files\5CInternet\20Explorer\5CIEXPLORE.EXE\22\20%REGEXPTEXT\3D\22http://\5CS*\22\0D\0A

Re[2]: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Daniel van Rooijen [CopyCats]
Hi Peter, PP Is there a small chance you have turned 'NumLock' off and don't keep PP 'Alt' pressed while trying to enter the character codes?. I am keeping Alt pressed down, but you're right about Numlock - it is off (as it should be!! :-) When I turn Numlock on, Alt-nnn and Alt- works

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Nope. You done good! The How to says to use Ctrl-V. Actually, I just tried it and it's completely hit and miss! Sometimes it pastes 100% correctly, sometimes not. Here they are again: snip Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 09:29:09 -0500 (15:29 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Call me stupid... but I cannot get those to work... I've pasted the filter into my filters list, and when I got to run

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Pass - try doing a Ctrl-C on the filter in the filter list then a Ctrl-V into a replay to this message so we can see what you've actually got in the filter. It works fine for those not stumbling over bad wrapping. Oddly enough, it was

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 09:45:04 -0500 (15:45 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oddly enough, it was the first thing I checked for, pasted it into an external editor, removed wrappings from the

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... snip ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for you. It should be queued in the outbox of whichever account is active and sent on the next send cycle. Is the

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:07:31 -0500 (16:07 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and it's perfect (apart from not marking the spam as Read). I have no idea why that wouldn't create a message for

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited). You need to enhance the template to include a %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! Modified... now I just have

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:38:29 -0500 (16:38 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is the fact that it's a common folder have any affect? Yes Yes YES! (sorry - didn't mean to yell, just got excited).

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Modified... now I just have to wait for the inevitable spam ;) ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel the post -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 10:52:32 -0500 (16:52 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... or retrieve an earlier one from the Forwarded Spam folder ... ;-) True... just be resubmitting it... just cancel

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or did you do it by hand anyway? I did them all as a batch by hand... using ALT SHIFT F5, then putting in the SpamCop

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 11:01:49 -0500 (17:01 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I thought we'd determined that the submission didn't happen because no account was specified to send it from ... or

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Dunno. I have mine in the create message template that already as put='c:\temp\export.txt' in it. I use this construct myself because I filter my spam to an account called Anti-Spam that has no related POP3/SMTP servers. That is where I

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jonathan, @18 June 2002, 11:13:08 -0500 (17:13 UK time) Jonathan Angliss wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That is where I put it, but no luck still... I guess an extra key combo isn't going to kill me ;) Okay. Next step. Shut

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Marck D Pearlstone wrote... Okay. Next step. Shut down and restart your system. I actually submitted a bug to the BugTraq about Create message filters not working at one point. After the next reboot, they worked perfectly and I could never replicate the problem

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Marck. At 11:33 AM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]: MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jonathan Angliss
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, Jan Rifkinson wrote... Hi Marck. MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. %ACCOUNT is a macro... just replace main with the name of the

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, @18 June 2002, 13:08:27 -0400 (18:08 UK time) Jan Rifkinson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP [...] You need to enhance the template to include a MDP %ACCOUNT=main to provide a sending account! [/...] What is this

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Thomas F
Hello Marck, On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 15:16:51 +0100 GMT (18/06/02, 21:16 +0700 GMT), Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks.

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, @18 June 2002, 03:16:11 +0700 (21:16 UK time) Thomas F wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 4:29 PM, you wrote: MDP As Dann suggests, the regexp filter needs enhancing to: MDP http://spamcop.net/sc\S*. SpamCop have changed the format of the MDP notification message for free accounts :-(. Thanks. Works. :-)

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 June 2002, 16:41:19 -0400 (21:41 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] one more time, could you reply with the entire correct filter for that notifcation message for PAID accounts, I'd like to

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:06 PM, you wrote: MDP ,-=[ Pick up reply - all flavours ]- MDP BeginFilter MDP Name: SpamCop AutoResponder MDP Active: 1 MDP Source: \Inbox MDP Target: \Trash MDP CopyFolder: none MDP MainSet: [EMAIL

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Paul, @18 June 2002, 17:32:14 -0400 (22:32 UK time) Paul Cartwright wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S* - -so, should I replace: http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS* with your line:

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Hi Marck. At 1:52 PM on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 you wrote the following about [SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)]: What is this ACCOUNT=main? Haven't seen that before. MDP main was just a for example. Mine is MDP %ACCOUNT=Marck. Jonathan knew what I meant, MDP fortunately. Whew

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat (Mailwasher program)

2002-06-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, 5:46 PM, you wrote: MDP It's a chalk and cheese issue.. MDP http://\5CS*spamcop.net/sc\5CS*; is how a string looks when intended MDP to be used as part of a copy/paste of an entire filter into the MDP sorting office. MDP http://\S*spamcop.net/sc\S*; is exactly the

SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-16 Thread Carlo Revelli
Hello, I would like to create a spam filter using this very useful list of spammers domain names that I found on the Internet: http://www.znet.com/blocked-domains.html I copied this list, I created an address book with all these domain names and I tried to create a filter with the Bat 1.60q

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-16 Thread Julian Beach (Lists)
On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:34:55 PM, Carlo Revelli wrote: Do you know if there is a way to create a filter with a huge list of domain names (and not only with e-mail addresses)? How? Not using the regular Inbox filters. You can load a file for Selective Download filtering, but I think that

Re: SPAM filter with The Bat

2002-06-16 Thread Costas Papadopoulos
Hello Julian, Sunday, June 16, 2002, 7:59:22 PM, you wrote (possibly edited): On Sunday, June 16, 2002, 5:34:55 PM, Carlo Revelli wrote: Do you know if there is a way to create a filter with a huge list of domain names (and not only with e-mail addresses)? How? One fairly successful

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @05 April 2002, 10:15:34 +0200 (09:15 UK time) Peter Palmreuther wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDP Turn on Regular expressions and use /s/s/s/s/s (five MDP contiguous spaces). Or use it's shorter and more readable

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread tracer
Hello Roman Katzer, On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:47:06 +0200 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, April 4, 2002, 11:47:06 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Roman Katzer wrote: On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 15:31:32, Jon Lawrance wrote: What about all the foreign character rubbish I get? Anyone

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread tracer
Hello Allie C Martin, On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:00:32 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Friday, April 5, 2002, 4:00:32 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: Sure. I'm saying that it's more difficult to keep your Inbox free of spam by filtering the spam itself. I'm not saying

Re[2]: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread Daniel Grunberg
on Friday, April 5, 2002, 9:40:53 AM, tracer wrote: Hello Daniel Grunberg, 1. Copy the subject line of one of the foreign character emails. filtering by subject in any language unless some idiot is insisting will not be effective as general spam filter. I am no idiot. You quoted me

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-05 Thread Roman Katzer
On Friday, April 5, 2002, 16:39:27, tracer wrote: Ok, which expressions do you have which work... So far: (irrelevant lines deleted) BeginFilter Name: Spam Active: 1 Source: \\RoKa\Inbox Target: \\RoKa\spam CopyFolder: none MainSet: 40charset=.*ks_c_5601-1987 AltSet:1: 40charset=.*euc-kr

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 09:43, Jon Lawrance wrote: Does anyone have a ready made spam filter they could share? Are they importable? All filter are easily importable and exportable through the sorting office copy/paste capabilities. To export a filter, mark it and hit ctrl-c then paste

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 10:53:14 +0200 [ Thu, 4 Apr 2002], Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote these words of wisdom: ... MO I use three filters, one that filter on certain words like teen, MO porn and so forth, another to filter on certain patterns (4 spaces MO in a row in the

Re[2]: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Jon Lawrance
. Anyone else get this type of spam and what method do you use to get rid of it? -- Best regards, Jon Thursday, April 4, 2002, 9:53:14 AM, you wrote: MO On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 09:43, Jon Lawrance wrote: Does anyone have a ready made spam filter they could share? Are they importable? MO

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread tracer
Hello Allie C Martin, On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 06:40:11 -0500 GMT your local time, which was Thursday, April 4, 2002, 6:40:11 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Allie C Martin wrote: @ 10:53:14 +0200 [ Thu, 4 Apr 2002], Marcus Ohlström [MO] wrote these words of wisdom: ... MO I use three filters,

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Roman Katzer
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, 15:31:32, Jon Lawrance wrote: What about all the foreign character rubbish I get? Anyone else get this type of spam and what method do you use to get rid of it? I use the charset information to filter that stuff out. If there's something like charset=big5 or

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Allie C Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 @ 21:23:28 +0700 [ Thu, 4 Apr 2002], Tracer [T] thoughtfully wrote the following: ... T Not quite true as most spammers use certain things in their headers T which betray its spam. Sure. I'm saying that it's more difficult to keep your Inbox free of

Re[2]: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Roberto Machorro
The best results I've had with my spam filtering is to actually create a folder per group or subject (clubs, relatives, work, e-news, etc.). I have a folder for each mailing list, project, etc., if it doesn't fall into any of those categories, filter it against your AddressBook, then make sure

Re[2]: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Jody Watts
E-Mail Message ~~ From: Marcus Ohlström Date: Thursday, April 04, 2002 at 2:53 AM Subject: Ready made Spam filter _ MO Before you copy/paste the filters below, make sure to edit the folders MO to suite your setup. Place

Re[3]: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Friday, April 5, 2002, 03:50, Jody Watts wrote: MO Before you copy/paste the filters below, make sure to edit the MO folders to suite your setup. Place them in the same order that I MO have done in this mail. I thought the filters weren't held in an editable file. Where (what file) do I

Re: Ready made Spam filter

2002-04-04 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jody, @05 April 2002, 19:50:05 -0600 (02:50 UK time) Jody Watts wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MO Before you copy/paste the filters below, make sure to edit the MO folders to suite your setup. Place them in the same order that

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