Howdy Mica,
Saturday, September 16, 2006, 11:31:40 PM, Mica wrotened:
Mica Full name of the program is Avira AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic.
Mica Direct link for download is:
Mica http://dl7.avgate.net/down/windows/antivir_workstation_win7_en_h.exe
Mica Happy anti virusing.
That
Hi
On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote:
Do I have to go back to NAV?
Entirely up to you.
Never used NAV but heard plenty bad stories about it.
Could not get on with AVG but my sister loves it.
Nod32 came highly recommended, requires no plugin,
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On Sunday 10 September 2006 at 8:55:49 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Susanne wrote:
Do I have to go back to NAV?
don't think that discussing anti-virus programs and software
firewall programs with which to back up The Bat!'s inherent security
is all that far Off Topic. Not everyone is subscribed to TBOT. And
TBOT is quite erratic about timely posting of messages. Erratic daily,
that is.
--
Best regards,
Mary
not sure if there is
Susanne anything showing the email is being scanned).
Susanne If I receive an email with a virus attached, should AVG give
Susanne a warning message right then, or does it just get thrown
Susanne into the quarantine folder without further notice?
Mine creates a folder
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 at 18:47:28 -0700, Susanne wrote:
Yes to both, but I can detect no obvious sign of the email getting
scanned (I'm new to the program, so I'm not sure if there is
anything showing the email is being scanned).
Under e-mail scanner select configure and tell it to certify the
).
Susanne If I receive an email with a virus attached, should AVG give
Susanne a warning message right then, or does it just get thrown
Susanne into the quarantine folder without further notice?
BA Mine creates a folder if there isnt one for the account and puts the
BA message in there.
BA You could
checked, but I'm not seeing any certification on the messages from this
list. Before I got the plug-in working, I had AVG Free running from outside
of TB! and then every incoming message had a part.txt containing the
certification. Now, nada. And the Virus Vault is still empty, as it has
been ever since
Hi,
I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
getting it to scan TB email.
The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG
found a TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect
when I downloaded the email.
It also didn't remove the virus after the complete scan
On Sunday, September 10, 2006, at 2:55:49 PM, Susanne wrote:
I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
getting it to scan TB email.
Since switching from Eudora to TB! a couple of months ago, my AVG Email
scan has never once found anything in the incoming mail. When I was
using
Hello Susanne everyone else,
on 10-Sep-2006 at 21:55 you (Susanne) wrote:
The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a TB
mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I downloaded the
email.
Which simply means that the virus code is sitting somewhere in one
Howdy Susanne,
Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, Susanne wrotened:
Susanne I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
Susanne getting it to scan TB email.
Susanne The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG
Susanne found a TB mail with the netsky virus
Susanne @ 2006-9-10 2:55:49 PM
Setting up AVG anti virus with TB? mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The plug-in is there, but during today's complete scan AVG found a
TB mail with the netsky virus that it didn't detect when I
downloaded the email. It also didn't remove the virus after the
complete scan
if there is
anything showing the email is being scanned).
If I receive an email with a virus attached, should AVG give
a warning message right then, or does it just get thrown
into the quarantine folder without further notice?
--
Best regards,
Susannemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using
11 September 2006 - 06:48
Hello Susanne,
Sunday, September 10, 2006, 8:55:49 PM, you wrote:
S I'm trying out the free AVG version and have some trouble
S getting it to scan TB email.
Slightly OT but as soon as I opened your message NOD32 displayed its
always-reassuring signature update
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 05:30:24 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Groetjes, Roelof
The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob.
The Bat! 3.70.06 Qigong (Beta)
Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
1 pop3 account, server on LAN
OTFE enabled
P4 3GHz
2 GB RAM
The ultimate Virus
Hallo Stephen,
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:26:28 +1100GMT (2-2-2006, 20:26 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
SL The ultimate Virus, a self-installing copy of Bob.
SL What the...???
Just shows my age. For the rest I only can say that this is rather off
topic.
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Groetjes, Roelof
It is hard
Hello Kevin,
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 12:19:07 -0400 GMT(4/3/2005, 11:19 AM -0600 GMT),
per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Coates wrote:
I think these types of discussions help elevate awareness of both the
problems and the solutions.
Words of wisdom!
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Best Regards,
Greg Strong
Using The Bat!
Hi
On Tuesday 5 April 2005 at 3:22:20 AM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Tim Casten wrote:
Hello Anthony,
Monday, April 4, 2005, 6:41:58 PM, you wrote:
I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option.
it a feature in the sp2 version
And in the version I have used since 2002. I do not have SP2
Hi
On Wednesday 6 April 2005 at 3:38:26 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], rich gregory wrote:
Considering such a system or user trusted don't make it so!
If I trust somebody, they are trusted.
The trust may, of course, be misplaced.
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Best regards,
MFPA
MFPA writes:
If I trust somebody, they are trusted.
The trust may, of course, be misplaced.
Exactly. By definition, someone must be trusted in every computer
system. Whether or not that person is really trustworthy is irrelevant
from a security standpoint; what matters in computer security
Use Avast instead.
Works like a charm with The Bat!, Thunderbird and Courier. I use them all
on a Win XP system...
AJ
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On 01.04.2005 at 11:05 Jeff Gaines wrote:
Hello Group
Apologies if this is way off topic for this group but Norton Anti
Virus (AKA
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:22:20 +0200, Tim Casten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option.
it a feature in the sp2 version
Its definitely not only in the SP2 version (I activate it on all systems
where the people insist to use OE, and only a fraction of that is
Hello Mica,
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 19:11:18 +0200 GMT (05/04/2005, 00:11 +0700 GMT),
Mica Mijatovic wrote:
The problem is that you usuallly don't know it until being told. In
the meantime, you might have shared infected files.
MM In the meantime you could learn too. There are many ways. Once
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
/// So, it *is* about money,
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else,
on 05-Apr-2005 at 15:11 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:
In other words, you need just an echo of your attitudes (to feel safe
and accepted)
You don't know me other than from some characters on your screen that
appeared after I tapped a few keys here and there,
On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 8:16:14 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Should this be moved to TBOT?
No. I don't want to read any more of it there either.
--
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928 S Broadway
Wichita KS 67211
316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Using The Bat! 3.0.2.10 on Windows XP
Hola, Dwight,
Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 11:57:50 AM, you wrote:
DAC On Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 8:16:14 AM, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
Should this be moved to TBOT?
DAC No. I don't want to read any more of it there either.
Enough already, stop this nonsense, somebody close this thread, please
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rich gregory writes:
There is NO SUCH THING as a trusted source, ever.
Yes, there is such a thing, depending on one's security policies.
For example, most operating systems consider any user with a valid
password for a given identifier to be a trusted user of that identifier.
--
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I am self confident enough that I don't need any approval for my
attitude and position.
Please, stop
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Hello Mica,
My wai.
[...]
Are we going in circles yet?
I don't know. I see the things circling around me but
Hallo Thomas,
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:16:14 +0700GMT (5-4-2005, 15:16 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:
TF Should this be moved to TBOT?
moderator on
Yes.
I haven't got an appropriate QT to declare a thread a dead horse, but
please take this elsewhere. It's not really TB-related anymore.
That
Hi Cuco,
On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM you wrote:
PATCO lives!!
Yesss! :gdr:
--
Regards,
Maggie
There has been opposition to every innovation in the history of man, with the
possible exception of the sword.
Hola, Maggie,
Tuesday, April 5, 2005, 3:22:30 PM, you wrote:
M Hi Cuco,
M On Tuesday, April 05, 2005 at 12:25:26 PM you wrote:
PATCO lives!!
M Yesss! :gdr:
Glad there are people that still remember, Maggie, you made my day!!!
Cuco, ZSU CERAP.
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Ramon L. Negron (Cuco)
PATCO lives!!
Air
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:29:15 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Okay, it's about money. I could write some 5-6 KB on this topic,
This is not about money, this is about the quality of the
software, is that SO hard to understand?
--
Gruesse / Greetings,
Alexander Kunz
Monday, April 4, 2005, 2:12:15 PM, Paul wrote:
PB Have you asked the List about grouping? The list has helped me over
PB the years.
Oh, yes! I had a gripe quite recently and many tried to help, but to no
avail.
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Cheers,
Allister
:flag-newzealand:
New Zealand / Aotearoa
to each ad that was served thru that server.
Code that exploited the security hole in IE.
You already guess it... I start up IE, go to the ebay page, it loads, and
suddenly a window pops up that my Virus Scanner has blocked a trojan from
installing.
I consider myself an experienced and aware user
Hi Alexander,
On 4/4/2005 12:54 PM +0200, you wrote:
This was such an everyday situation, I dare say it could've happened
to everyone... especially since the standard accounts creating during
the Win XP installation are administrative accounts, anyway...
I got adware/spyware on my machine under
one is
infected with a virus? - Only by scanning it.
What the situation really demands is a bit of end user education,
and there's just no way around it; regardless of how many bits of
AV/AT software someone might want to run concurrently (or even having
only one running on-access and the other
Hello Anthony,
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 06:02:13 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 11:02 +0700 GMT),
Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:
[...]
AGA Then they will get what they deserve.
[...]
AGA Shared computers are never a good idea.
Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me?
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
it. I scan every attachment, regardless of whether there is a
confirmation that 100% virus free in the mail.
I didn't follow all messages in this thread. Has it been mentioned yet
that no AV software detects all malware?
--
Cheers,
Thomas.
Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: If you
Re: Anti Virus S/W,
(ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Size:4106 bytes) is marked
for DELETION by the filter C5AM-new
...so I would please you to send it again, addressed properly.
Also, I would like if you would read again my message
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], about mechanisms of external
authorities, and big
Hi
On Monday 4 April 2005 at 2:32:44 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Fernandez wrote:
... confirmation that 100% virus free in the mail.
I once had such certifications turned on for testing purposes and
forgot to turn them off before sending an email. The message was
bounced back
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:46:50 +0200, Mica Mijatovic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
/// So, it *is* about money, since the value system used to estimate a
software, is directly derived, to a significant extent, from what money
means/represents to someone, a particular person, or a group of them.
This
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:34:50 +0200, Thomas Fernandez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AGA Then they will get what they deserve.
[...]
AGA Shared computers are never a good idea.
Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me?
Nope, its not only you.
--
Gruesse / Greetings,
Alexander Kunz
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
There was one incident that change my attitude towards this. I'm
normally using Opera, but in order to use some pages, as you surely
know, one must use Internet Explorer. One of these sites that require
IE *and* ActiveX is ebay when you want to sell something and use
Allie Martin writes:
It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather
than sit thinking that we alone can make the difference.
It only gets dangerous when you stop thinking.
--
Anthony
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practical. I've been doing it for years.
I receive Excel files with executable code in the office. These are
legit, and I need to open them. How would I know whether one is
infected with a virus? - Only by scanning it.
Of course, if it's a virus your scanner doesn't recognize, you'll
Thomas Fernandez writes:
Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me?
Some people think the mere notion of people having computers at home is
arrogant and elitist.
--
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@ @ at 12:54:53 +0200, when Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
I see postings here that blame the average user, I don't think that is
fair. Melissa Reece mentioned a bit of
are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files
with macros are common.
I receive Excel files with executable code in the office. These are
legit, and I need to open them. How would I know whether one is
infected with a virus? - Only by scanning it.
AGA Of course, if it's a virus your
Hello Mica,
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT),
Mica Mijatovic wrote:
MM If I know that someone is not practising appropriate methods in making
MM his/her machine safe, I will not accept an invitation, for instance,
MM to chat with him/her, will not share files
Hello Alexander,
On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 16:17:37 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:17 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Does this sounds arrogant (or elitaire) or is it just me?
ASK Nope, its not only you.
OK, thanks for the heads-up.
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Cheers,
Thomas.
Fettflecken werden wie neu, wenn man sie
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:48 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
Files from a trusted source are clean by definition
So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address
would come from a trusted source by that definition. Thats secure
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 04-Apr-2005 at 16:43 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
Don't use the advance picture service
Impractical.
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
A learned blockhead is a greater blockhead than an ignorant one. --
to limit my risk profile and do run programs to assist me. I've
been hit by a virus *once* and that was in 1998. I was ignorant then
and learnt a lesson. I haven't been hit since.
It does disturb me that on about 4 occasions I've been sitting in my
office and the virus alert appeared. I was doing
Thomas Fernandez writes:
You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files
with macros are common.
I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of
attached files.
Right. There is no 100% protection, if you need to open those files.
Often, you don't need
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
So, every Netsky virus that sends itself around with a fake sender address
would come from a trusted source by that definition.
Trusted sources are verifiable sources. Digital signatures come in
handy here.
--
Anthony
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
Impractical.
Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX.
--
Anthony
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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 04-Apr-2005 at 17:40 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
Impractical.
Not for me. I've used eBay without the need for ActiveX.
That conversation ends here, because it start to get redundant. See
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Best regards,
Alexander
Hello Anthony,
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:39:51 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:39 +0700 GMT),
Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:
You are not in business or academy. In those fields, attached files
with macros are common.
AGA I'm in both, and macro-laden files comprise only a tiny minority of
AGA attached
Allie Martin writes:
From reading your other messages it would seem that your use of your
system and why *you* require or need allows you the luxury of being
able to simply avoid risky practices. More power to you that you're
able to actually do this. Unfortunately, this isn't practical
Thomas Fernandez writes:
My point is that some oneone who sent me uninfected files one day, may
send me an infected file the next.
Then that person is not a trusted source.
Not for me. Well, if they send me .exe files, I do ask them to send me
sensible files. But an Excel atttachment is
Hi Anthony,
On 04/04/2005 05:40 PM +0200, you wrote:
Not for me.
If this is only about you, then there's nothing to discuss.
General advice on security can never be based on individual needs or
specialized measures. The best security measures are never generic.
They're based on the profile of
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Allie Martin writes:
It's ridiculous now and we simply have to run the software rather
than sit thinking
Hi Anthony,
On 04/04/2005 05:56 PM +0200, you wrote:
I've been good at what I do for a very long time.
Nah. You're just able to avoid doing a lot of things others can't. I
find it disturbing that you imply that your method will work for
others. This implies that what you merely desire and can
Hello Anthony,
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:58:56 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 22:58 +0700 GMT),
Anthony G. Atkielski wrote:
My point is that some oneone who sent me uninfected files one day, may
send me an infected file the next.
AGA Then that person is not a trusted source.
Not, they aren't. Yet, I
Allie Martin writes:
Nah. You're just able to avoid doing a lot of things others can't.
Most can avoid them; they just don't want to. The urge to see a video
of Paris Hilton is just too strong.
--
Anthony
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Hi Anthony,
On 04/04/2005 06:14 PM +0200, you wrote:
Most can avoid them; they just don't want to. The urge to see a video
of Paris Hilton is just too strong.
Your funny. :)
--
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System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm
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Nothing is impossible for anyone impervious to
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:54:04 +0200 GMT (04/04/2005, 21:54 +0700 GMT),
Mica Mijatovic wrote:
MM If I know that
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Your security model just isn't practical for many if not most users.
Security model is only one,
and is
Hi
On Monday 4 April 2005 at 4:56:12 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Anthony G. Atkielski
wrote:
I switched to TB from Outlook Express because OE wouldn't let me turn
off display of HTML mail,
Tools | Options | Read tab | Read all messages in plain text
in OE 6; dunno about other versions.
Hi
On Monday 4 April 2005 at 3:43:09 PM, in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Anthony G.
Atkielski wrote:
I have all the ActiveX turned off in MSIE, and nowadays I use
Firefox, anyway, in which I've also turned off everything I can,
including Flash.
Is there a risk to Flash?
--
Best regards,
MFPA
Hello MFPA everyone else,
on 04-Apr-2005 at 20:26 you (MFPA) wrote:
Is there a risk to Flash?
...you're male, so... probably not.
SCNR!
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Our dreams dream us. -- Anonymous
MFPA writes:
Tools | Options | Read tab | Read all messages in plain text
in OE 6; dunno about other versions.
I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option.
--
Anthony
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MFPA writes:
Is there a risk to Flash?
Flash contains instructions that are executable on the local machine;
therefore there's always a risk.
There have been some reported virus infections of Flash content. I
don't have any legitimate use for Flash so I have no Flash software
installed.
I
Hello Anthony,
Monday, April 4, 2005, 6:41:58 PM, you wrote:
I have OE 6, and I don't see any such option.
it a feature in the sp2 version
--
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Timmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Current version is 3.0.1.33
Tim Casten writes:
it a feature in the sp2 version
Oh. Well, it was too little, too late, as I now use TB for my e-mail
(despite several annoying bugs). I haven't even installed SP2, since
I'm sure it will break applications, and I can't afford to spend
hundreds or thousands of dollars
Kevin Coates writes:
Most of us spend a fair amount of money on our hardware and Internet
access. Buying a decent AV package should be part of the process. Yes,
you can do it for free, but is it worth the risk?
If you don't open attachments, have a firewall, and don't run active
content on
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 10:13 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
If you don't open attachments, have a firewall, and don't run active
content on your browser, you won't be infected by viruses and the like,
with or without antivirus software.
Nonsense.
--
Hello Allister Jenks everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 03:29 you (Allister Jenks) wrote:
I think there is also considerable risk in placing any weight behind
payware being of better quality because you have to pay for it.
I never meant to say that.
I realise you said the first two factors
recommend this or that program, just because they like it
- and this personal liking often goes beyond functionality and/or reason.
My experience: during the two latest worm outbreaks (Bagle.AZ and something
else), AVG Free detected the virus several hours before Trend Micro, NAV and
Panda have
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
Nonsense.
It has worked flawlessly for me for many years.
--
Anthony
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Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 11:16 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
Nonsense.
It has worked flawlessly for me for many years.
That doesn't mean it will work for everyone else.
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Until the
of
http://www.av-comparatives.org
The November 2004 retrospective scanning is very interesting, they tested
various scanners with completely outdated virus signature files (from
August 2004) against 8 new in-the-wild viruses|virii|virae (sp?), NOD32 is
the only one with 100% detection rate - they have
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 10:13 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
If you don't open attachments, have a firewall, and don't run active
content on your browser, you won't be infected by viruses and the like,
with or without antivirus software.
Sidenote,
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
That doesn't mean it will work for everyone else.
They do have to be diligent, yes.
But antivirus software doesn't work for everyone, either, and it can
cause lots of problems, as well as inducing a false sense of security.
--
Anthony
various scanners with completely outdated virus signature files (from
August 2004) against 8 new in-the-wild viruses|virii|virae (sp?), NOD32 is
the only one with 100% detection rate - they have a very good
heuristic/generic scan engine.
If you need some *external* authority to affirm your very
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Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 11:16 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
Hello Mica Mijatovic everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 14:43 you (Mica Mijatovic) wrote:
Let's be a bit more...reasonable
Whatever you say Mica, it will be right for sure.
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Violence breeds more violence, and it is
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Hi Alexander,
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:25:53 +0200 (2:25 PM here), Alexander S. Kunz
[ASK] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ASK A good virus scanner is only one part of a complete security
ASK strategy, and you named a couple of very good additional
Hello Jernej Simoncic everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 11:05 you (Jernej Simoncic) wrote:
My experience: during the two latest worm outbreaks (Bagle.AZ and something
else), AVG Free detected the virus several hours before Trend Micro, NAV and
Panda have.
Here's a chart of reaction times
the best AV/AT
software can eventually let something slip by.
I am considering running side by side nod32 AVG...
At best, that's useless overkill in my view (I also still have
questions as to AVG's overall quality). As far as *anti-virus* goes,
NOD32 alone should be enough (see again my comments above
computing practices. You can avoid virus infections without
antivirus products through careful computing practices, but you cannot
completely avoid virus infections through the use of A/V products if you
don't practice safe computing as well. A/V products can give a false
sense of security
Hello Anthony G. Atkielski everyone else,
on 03-Apr-2005 at 22:38 you (Anthony G. Atkielski) wrote:
If you don't open attachments, and you configure your browser to
disallow active content, and you block all incoming ports that are a
potential security risk (you can essentially block _all_
Alexander S. Kunz writes:
You really believe this, do you?
Yes. As I've said, it has worked for me for many years.
Ever heard of the average Joe User?
Yes. So?
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Anthony
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Hi Alexander,
On Sunday, April 03, 2005, at 1:47:23 PM PST, you wrote:
If you don't open attachments, and you configure your browser to
disallow active content, and you block all incoming ports that are
a potential security risk (you can essentially block _all_ ports on
a PC that is used
Hi,
On Sunday, April 03, 2005, at 2:16:42 PM PST, I wrote:
While *never opening any attachments* will indeed keep one
relatively safer than if one were to *never* open any attachment,
Oops! That didn't turn out as intended. I should have written
something like...
While *never opening any
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:47:23 +0200, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
If you don't open attachments, and you configure your browser
to disallow active content, and you block all incoming ports
that are a potential security risk (you can essentially block
_all_ ports on a PC that is used only as a
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