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Hello Thomas, I think the point Miguel is trying to make here is that filters behave differently depending on how they are triggered. That is inconsistent to the degree of being dangerous. I see absolutely no sense in it, and I would think that the word bug is not completely unrelated.

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Allie, I see no bugginess here and see perfect sense is what is being achieved through the various options. See my reply to your [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The difference, and the problem as I see it, comes because of the fact that TB filters *force* a move to a folder

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU If the option *is* checked, the string match is carried out and MAU the messages matching the rule(s) are Ignored (in my case) and MAU moved to Inbox. Ok. It is *now*

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Miguel, On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:26:15 +0200 GMT (03/10/02, 13:26 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: MAU Finally some one who understand me! Do you want to marry me? ;-) Is that now allowed in Spain as well? ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. 99

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Thomas, MAU Finally some one who understand me! Do you want to marry me? ;-) Is that now allowed in Spain as well? ;-) Not yet but, who cares! ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, MAU Like you, I don't understand why they are not moved. That is MAU what I find odd. A bug perhaps? A _useful_ bug? No, an intended feature. It has always been so and designed to be so, that when the source and destination folders of a filter are the same then a message is not

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @2-Oct-2002, 09:10 +0200 (08:10 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MAU ... if I Re-Filter my TBUDL folder the messages that match the MAU Ignore rules *are* moved to Inbox. However, if I

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Miguel, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 09:10:32 +0200 GMT (02/10/02, 14:10 +0700 GMT), Miguel A. Urech wrote: MAU Now, if I Re-Filter my TBUDL folder the messages that match the MAU Ignore rules *are* moved to Inbox. However, if I execute my MAU Ignore filter with the keyboard shortcut on one or more

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, at 02:15:28 [GMT +0100] (which was 9:15:28 PM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JS IOW, if you leave it alone, TB never moves the message at all. JS But if you actively configure it to move the message to the JS inbox, then it actually does? Manually

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU In my specific case, my incoming Ignore filter (almost the same MAU that your Watch one) is set for Inbox-Inbox. It works normally MAU for incoming messages and it is my

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Thomas, I don't know what is WAD, Working As Designed :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information:

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Allie, With the option disabled the first two pages of filter setup is basically ignored so no string matching is carried out, nor is the message moved. Only the filter actions are carried out. Oh darn! That's dangerous then! -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, MAU Are you saying this is WAD? No. I think that there are anomalies in the re-filter logic. I too have often cursed the dumping of vast swathes of messages to the inbox during a re-filter. It's no big problem anyway. If messages are moved to Inbox when doing a re-filter, all

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' With the option disabled the first two pages of filter setup is basically ignored so no string matching is carried out, nor is the message moved. Only the filter actions

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Allie, MAU Oh darn! That's dangerous then! Well, no. Not if you understand how it works and then let it do what you need. Well, yes. Precisely because I now understand how it works is why I think it's dangerous :) snipped a bit I am therefore happy that the option exists since you

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU But that is where I see the danger, if I want to prevent the MAU movement I take the risk of applying the actions to messages MAU that don't match the rules. You select

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Allie, You select the messages to apply the action to and then hit the hotkey. The filter actions are applied to selected messages as the reply, delete or any other command. I don't see the risk or danger involved unless you really aren't sure of what the filter is setup to do. If I'm

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Miguel A. Urech [MAU] wrote:' MAU OK, let's take my Ignore filter. I have a number of subjects MAU and/or MIDs in the Alternatives. If I make a mistake when MAU selecting messages they will be Ignored

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Allie, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:42:10 -0500 GMT (03/10/02, 04:42 +0700 GMT), Allie C Martin wrote: ACM You select the messages to apply the action to and then hit the ACM hotkey. The filter actions are applied to selected messages as the ACM reply, delete or any other command. I don't see

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas F. [TF] wrote:' TF I think the point Miguel is trying to make here is that filters TF behave differently depending on how they are triggered. That is TF inconsistent to the degree of being

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Allie, Say you wish to delete some messages. What happens if you make a mistake and select the wrong messages to delete? They will be deleted. OK, let's put it this way then. I select N messages, but I don't want to Ignore the N messages, just those that match the filter rule(s). The

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Miguel, On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, at 19:16:49 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:16:49 PM in NY, USA) Miguel A. Urech wrote: OK, I found what it was. What I did originally was neglect to set the folder to Inbox...instead it was set to TBDUL. So each time I used the hotkey combo on any thread

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Miguel, @1-Oct-2002, 19:16 +0200 (18:16 UK time) Miguel A. Urech [MAU] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: MAU Like you, I don't understand why they are not moved. That is MAU what I find odd. A bug perhaps? A _useful_ bug? No, an

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, at 00:06:08 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:06:08 PM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: MAU Like you, I don't understand why they are not moved. That is MAU what I find odd. A bug perhaps? A _useful_ bug? No, an intended feature. It has always been so and designed

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi James, @1-Oct-2002, 21:03 -0400 (02:03 UK time) James Senick [JS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ... when the source and destination folders of a filter are the same then a message is not moved. JS Assuming you mean in

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, at 04:00:02 [GMT +0100] (which was 11:00:02 PM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: You are. The watch filter works on the Inbox. It highlights any mail you are currently watching, moving it to the Inbox (i.e. not moving it at all). The mail is then

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi James, @30-Sep-2002, 07:24 -0400 (12:24 UK time) James Senick [JS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You are. The watch filter works on the Inbox. It highlights any mail you are currently watching, moving it to the Inbox (i.e.

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, at 12:43:21 [GMT +0100] (which was 7:43:21 AM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: JS ... if you wanted to set a hotkey to apply this filter to JS already 'in-house' threads / messages, they'd be moved back to JS the inbox from the folder you were browsing.

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, On Mon, 30 Sep 2002, at 08:09:46 [GMT -0400] (which was 8:09:46 AM in NY, USA) James Senick wrote: Not necessarily. I just added Ctrl-Alt-W as the hotkey for the filter and left the Check the selected message against this rule unchecked. It works perfectly, applying the watched

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, Monday, September 30, 2002, 7:43:21 AM, you wrote: MDP Not necessarily. I just added Ctrl-Alt-W as the hotkey for the MDP filter and left the Check the selected message against this rule MDP unchecked. It works perfectly, applying the watched thread colour MDP but leaving the

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Peter, @30-Sep-2002, 11:19 -0400 (16:19 UK time) Peter Kerekes [PK] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: PK Can I apply somehow for all past messages in a tread PK simultaneously? Er ... mark the messages in the thread, right

Watch Threads

Hello Batters, New wish list item for consideration...or is it necessary? I really miss an old Watch Thread feature that I think I came across first in XNews. For lists, I'd really like to be able to highlight incoming messages of a thread interesting or important to me. Perhaps some would

Re: Watch Threads

Hello James! On Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 6:52:34 PM you wrote: Is this worth pursuing to anyone else? There is a difference in handling e-mail and news - XNews and Agent are both (AFAIK) off-line newsreaders. E-mails are usually transferred from the server to your machine to do the

Re: Watch Threads

Hi James, On Sunday, September 29, 2002 12:52 your local time, (22:37 my local time), you [JS] wrote: JS New wish list item for consideration...or is it necessary? I JS really miss an old Watch Thread feature that I think I came JS across first in XNews. IMO, RITLabs should consider improving

Re: Watch Threads

Hi Dierk! In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sunday, September 29, 2002, 12:23:27 PM, you wrote: DH On Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 6:52:34 PM you wrote: Is this worth pursuing to anyone else? DH There is a difference in handling e-mail and news - XNews and Agent DH

Re[2]: Watch Threads

On Sunday, September 29, 2002, Dierk Haasis wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DH XNews and Agent DH are both (AFAIK) off-line newsreaders. Dierk, I think that's true for Agent, but it's not for Xnews. Xnews is strictly an online newsreader, although it has the ability to

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Scott! On Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 7:31:57 PM you wrote: Methinks you're missing the point. Mark Thread Sorry if I did. As I understood it, James wanted what XNews and Agent offer, not mere colouring ... -- Dierk Haasis http://www.Write4U.de http://Zoo.Write4U.de PGP

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Dierk, On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, at 19:23:27 [GMT +0200] (which was 1:23:27 PM in NY, USA) Dierk Haasis wrote: Hello James! On Sunday, September 29, 2002 at 6:52:34 PM you wrote: Is this worth pursuing to anyone else? There is a difference in handling e-mail and news - XNews and Agent

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Scott, On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, at 12:31:57 [GMT -0500] (which was 1:31:57 PM in NY, USA) Scott McNay wrote: Methinks you're missing the point. Mark Thread means you're interested in the subject and want it highlighted or something so that you can read it first, before any other

Re: Watch Threads

On Sunday, September 29, 2002, James Senick wrote: J Hello Batters, J New wish list item for consideration...or is it necessary? I J really miss an old Watch Thread feature that I think I came J across first in XNews. The Watch Thread feature has been in news readers long pre-dating XNews. J

Re: Watch Threads

Hello pmf, On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, at 15:34:49 [GMT -0400] (which was 3:34:49 PM in NY, USA) pmf wrote: J New wish list item for consideration...or is it necessary? I J really miss an old Watch Thread feature that I think I came J across first in XNews. The Watch Thread feature has been in news

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi James, @29-Sep-2002, 14:42 -0400 (19:42 UK time) James Senick [JS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: James, just create a rule that applies a color. It shouldn't take tooo long to create a rule, if you're accustomed to

Re: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, at 23:51:23 [GMT +0100] (which was 6:51:23 PM in NY, USA) Marck D Pearlstone wrote: Every time a new thread comes up that I want to watch, I just add the subject as an alternative search. Works a treat! Every so often I tidy the filter up and remove old

Re[2]: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 30 September 2002 at 11:32 a.m. James wrote: JS Oh my! I feel dumb. I completely forgot about the alternative JS sets. Thanks Marck. You're not the only one! :-) - -- Carren PGP public key: mailto:[EMAIL

Re[2]: Watch Threads

Hello Marck, I do *exactly* this. I have a watch filter. It's near the top of my filters, moves from Inbox to Inbox, marks the message bright red and continues processing. Every time a new thread comes up that I want to watch, I just add the subject as an alternative search. Works a treat!

Re[2]: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 30 September 2002 at 10:51 a.m. Marck wrote: MDP I do *exactly* this. I have a watch filter. It's near the top MDP of my filters, moves from Inbox to Inbox, marks the message MDP bright red and continues processing. MDP Every time a new

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Carren, @30-Sep-2002, 14:53 +1200 (03:53 UK time) Carren Stuart [CS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CS I want to create a watch filter as you have, for my TBUDL CS mail. A watch filter should not be associated with any list.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 30 September 2002 at 2:53 p.m. I wrote: CS OK ... I am a bit thick here. I am trying to do this but so far CS it's not working. I want to create a watch filter as you have, CS for my TBUDL mail. I have a TBUDL filter already which moves

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Carren, @30-Sep-2002, 15:02 +1200 (04:02 UK time) Carren Stuart [CS] in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: CS ... the way I have it set now, even though it is doing what I CS want it to, will put all those messages back into the

Re: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Marck D Pearlstone [MDP] wrote:' MDP A watch filter should not be associated with any list. It just MDP watches for a subject and highlights the message. This can be the case only if you don't already

Re[2]: Watch Threads

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, 30 September 2002 at 3:14 p.m. Marck wrote: MDP That's true, but how often do you do that? Anyway, you just have MDP to set the watch filter to manual or turn off active before MDP you do it. :-) OK, I guess I can't have everything!