Geoff and Jacqui make a good point, the TSA is nothing without the
membership. Their opinions do matter and should at least be considered. I
wrote my first message under the assumption that they were being heard. I
guess, to me it is a little like Paris Hilton, she was really into the Vote
or
texascavers Digest 20 Jan 2009 14:18:57 - Issue 695
Topics (messages through 10013):
Re: [Bitching the Caver]
by: Lyndon Tiu
1 by: Joe Ranzau
10001 by: Lyndon Tiu
10002 by: Lyndon Tiu
10003 by: Don Arburn
minutes 2
10004 by:
At 05:38 PM 1/19/2009, Geoff Hoese wrote:
The TSA exists to serve the interests of its members.
Yes. But that's sorta like saying that motherhood is a good thing.
It's pretty much unqualified.
There are a couple of sides to that argument, of course. One is
completely selfish; the other is
And so, my fellow cavers, ask not what the Caver can do for you - but
what can I do for the Caver!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
At 05:38 PM 1/19/2009, Geoff Hoese wrote:
The TSA exists to serve the interests of its members.
Aye carumba!
Although, it's probably apropos on Inauguration Day.
Mark
From: Don Arburn [mailto:donarb...@mac.com]
Sent: Tue 1/20/2009 10:14 AM
To: Gill Ediger
Cc: Texas Cavers List
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Viewpoint 2
And so, my fellow cavers, ask
Oh, alright. I offer to take over as Editor of the Texas Caver to free up Mark
Alman, our TSA President, to focus on all of these more important TSA
activities.
--- On Tue, 1/20/09, Don Arburn donarb...@mac.com wrote:
And so, my fellow cavers, ask not what the Caver can do for
you - but
It's Chairman, Terri, and I kind of like doing the Caver. 8^)
Thanks, though!
Mark
From: Terri Sprouse [mailto:terri.spro...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tue 1/20/2009 10:42 AM
To: Gill Ediger; Don Arburn
Cc: Texas Cavers List
Subject: Re: [Texascavers]
Underground Texas Grotto meeting – Wednesday, January 20, 2009
www.utgrotto.org
The meeting is on Wednesday from 7:45 P.M. - 9:00 P.M.
University of Texas Campus, 2.48 Painter Hall, Austin Texas.
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/pai.html
Geary Schindel (NSS 15827), who is the Edwards
Mr. Chairman,
I think you have done a great job so far on getting the Texas Caver published
in a timely manner. You certainly deserve kudo's for that! I am somewhat
concerned about the online access, but I am more concerned about ensuring that
the Texas Caver continues to be published.
I will
Thanks, Terri.
The more Gill, the better!
The TSA could use more folks like him and him as a member. I'm working
on that!
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Terri Sprouse [mailto:terri.spro...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:33 AM
To: Gill Ediger; Don Arburn; Alman, Mark
Um, guys, trim your cc's. I'm getting two and three of everything.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:32 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
Thanks, Terri.
The more Gill, the better!
The TSA could use more folks like him and him as a member. I'm working
on that!
Mark
All,
I have been in TSA a few years and know most of you. I know no one means to
say my opinions do not mean anything because I had a prior commitment to a
PBSS project and chose missing Winter meeting over disappointing a
landowner. (This is why Winter meeting had no PBSS attendees).
But
Thanks for your well thought out and measured response, Jacqui.
We did miss you, Bill B., Walter, and the other PBSS members and we value your
opinions as well as
ALL of the opinions of the other TSA members that weren't present.
All opinions and ideas are welcomed and equal, even if your
[Texascavers] All this latest stuffI just read The Day the Cowboys Quit by
Elmer Kelton and started Slaughter by Elmer Kelton...
Both very good books...
I didn't read very much early in my life, but have discovered a wondrous world
of entertainment later on...
Oh glad I was missed...My
I've been holding back one idea, planning to raise it at the TSA meeting in
April, but Diana's comment below prompts me to mention it now for people to
consider.
Have you been to the Karst Information Portal (www.karstportal.org)? It is
the result of a partnership between the National Cave and
At 02:21 PM 1/20/2009, George Veni wrote:
I've been holding back one idea, planning to raise it at the TSA meeting in
April,
Well, I'm glad you set it loose now, George. It fully backs up and
strengthens the specific details of what I've been banging away about
for the past few days. If you
Just FYI on federal land stuff.
Quinta
It's Inauguration Day and all of us are focused on the historic proceedings in
Washington. But I wanted to share a fantastic piece of environmental news
because I know it will lift your spirits even more.
On Saturday night, a federal judge ruled in our
Quinta,
It will be interesting to see what the Obama administration's position on this
matter will be. Please keep us informed. Thanks.
Fritz
From: Quinta Wilkinson [mailto:qui...@clearwire.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:35 PM
To: o...@texascavers.com
I don't think it is necessary to take advantage of the Karst
Information Portal in the event you want some old publications
accessible to everybody on the Web. If you make a PDF, even just from
scanned images of the pages, Acrobat Professional can then OCR the
PDF. The result can be a PDF
Hi cavers,
Last fall the outgoing president of the NSS recruited me to serve as this
year's Nominating Committee Chairman. It is my duty to find candidates for the
four director positions (of 12) for which there will be an election this
spring. Directors are members of the NSS' Board of
texascavers Digest 21 Jan 2009 00:26:14 - Issue 696
Topics (messages 10014 through 10031):
Viewpoint 2
10014 by: Gill Ediger
10015 by: Don Arburn
10016 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
10017 by: Terri Sprouse
10018 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
UT Grotto
At 06:04 PM 1/20/2009, Fritz Holt wrote:
It will be interesting to see what the Obama administration's
position on this matter will be.
As a professional problem solver and amateur arbitrator it is my
guess that at some point the demands of both the environment and the
energy industry will
All this wonderful time and effort people have been spending both
writing and reading and proffering opinions about the TSA! Barack
Obama would be proud to know that someone out there in CaveTex land
has volunteered to scan many, many editions of old Texas Cavers' and
get them into a
I thought that I heard an offer in Diana's post.
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:33 AM
To: Cave Tex
Subject: [Texascavers] TSA volunteering
All this wonderful time and effort people have been spending
I already have volunteered to help organize the speakers for the TSA
Convention, and I'm a grotto newsletter editor and officer. I have no
additional time right now for such a task.
But you might have some time.
Diana
On Jan 20, 2009, at 11:46 AM, Fritz Holt wrote:
I thought that I heard
Just ribbing you. Wrong, at my age I don't have much time left. Ribbing me now
as I plan to live for the rest of my life.
Geezer
-Original Message-
From: Diana Tomchick [mailto:diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:00 PM
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: Cave Tex
Mike Moore, before he passed on, scanned and converted almost every Texas caver
from 1974 to 1999 into html?including a nifty little display engine.? It was
considered for mass member and public distribution but it was decided that
copyright issues needed to be solved first. Also, some of the
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