It seems to me that some things about the attempted rescue and
abandoned recovery at Nutty Putty have not appeared in the press
reports. Presumably the victim was solidly attached by slings of some
sort to a rope, as they report he was lifted from the entrapping
crevice but then fell back
Hello Texicans
Why forever close the cave? Just wait 12-18 months and nature will make the
recovery easier!
Walter
Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com wrote:
It seems to me that some things about the attempted rescue and
abandoned recovery at Nutty Putty have not appeared in the press
Thanks for posting this, David.
I was curious as to the layout of this cave.
Item 4 on the map seems eerily prophetic after the events of last week.
Mark
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 12/1/2009 10:22 PM
To: Cavers
Everyone is invited to celebrate with the friends and family of Ed
Alexander. Allow plenty of time to reach Flat Rock by 11 am, drop
off your potluck dish at the lodge and then drive down to the caver
reunion site. A formal ceremony and music will begin promptly at
noon.
Nancy
Edward
Re my review of the hypogene speleogenesis books, Geary Schindel
provides the correction:
The publication by Stafford, Land, and Veni is actually derived from
papers from the 2008 GSA special session on hypogene speleogenesis.
--Mixon
Always forgive
texascavers Digest 2 Dec 2009 17:19:12 - Issue 899
Topics (messages 12753 through 12773):
Re: 2010 TSA Spring Convention, April 16-18th
12753 by: germanyj.aol.com
Re: Hunters being the hunted in Mexico
12754 by: Matt Turner
Re: cave rescue related
12755 by: DJ
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Could someone post the new Texas Cave Conservancy website link?
http://new.texascaves.org/ and http://www.texascaves.org/ on the TSA website
are no longer working.
Thanks,
Mark
I just spoke with Mike Walsh and the Texas Cave Conservancy website is down
for a while. I will monitor and let folks know when it comes back up.
Ron
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texascavers Digest 2 Dec 2009 22:02:26 - Issue 900
Topics (messages 12774 through 12782):
2010 TSA Spring Convention related
12774 by: David
12775 by: Stefan Creaser
12776 by: David
12778 by: Amanda Scott
12779 by: Diana Tomchick
12780 by:
I do not think David has reviewed this headlamp.
In August I purchased a Mammut Lucido TX1 LED Headlamp for $80.00. The lamp
is helmet mounted with 3 AA in back of the helmet. What makes this headlamp
so good is the incredible spotlight with the great runtime of days and that
is on the
I have only attended about 10 TSA Spring Conventions,
and I was probably only there for 1/2 the program, so I can't
claim any expertise on this event.
I enjoyed going in Steam Cave and Chinaberry Cave in 1985.
That was my 1st introduction to the TSA, and I thought that it was fun.
I enjoyed a
texascavers Digest 3 Dec 2009 06:05:49 - Issue 901
Topics (messages 12783 through 12790):
Re: 2010 TSA Spring Convention related
12783 by: Don Arburn
12784 by: Diana Tomchick
12785 by: Bill Bentley
Thanksgiving Laguna de Sanchez trip report
12786 by: Jim
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Yesterday, I posted a note about a potential
site to hold the 2010 TSA Spring Convention.
I would like to make a motion that this camp be on
the list of tentative sites proposed for a spring convention.
I sent an e-mail to the manager the camp
to see if his e-mail was still good and if he was
The biggest problem David is that it's over near Houston (I
think that's what you said). That's a *long* way from the
center of Texas, why would the people from West Texas want
to drive all the way to East Texas?
Also, you have to consider the cooks (I would say that...) we
don't really want to
In response to Stefan's post, the camp is less than one hour due east of
the town of Giddings.
Meaning,
The camp is 4 1/2 hours from Dallas.
Ft. Worth, would be a different route, but still at 4 1/2 hours.
San Antonio would be 3 hours.
LAG cavers would have to drive 10 1/2 hours. Ouch !
To my recollection from my youth, Camp Happy Hollow had a kitchen and lodge,
with restrooms. It also is only about 1.5 hours from Austin - not that far
at all. Brenham is a nice place...
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Stefan Creaser stefan.crea...@arm.comwrote:
The biggest problem David is
Stefan,
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose...sometimes the people in West
Texas have to drive a long ways, sometimes the people in Houston have
a long drive.
Those of us in North Texas *always* have a long drive.
If you're really a dedicated caver and enjoy going to the TSA
Having helped host far too many of these things my advice for Ellie was
that she needed to do whatever worked best for her. If it meets her budget,
her travel constraints, her whims etc than it is the right place. No matter
what, someone will be unhappy.
By and far the biggest issue for
True.
I also suggested Flat Creek Ranch to Ellie. Might work.
Cheers,
Denise
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:34:49 +
From: jran...@gmail.com
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] 2010 TSA Spring Convention related
Having
Doesn't some caver own a field surrounded by a few trees? How big does it have
to be? Three acres? Five acres would easily do it.
I went to one of the events a few years ago in April, it was west of San
Marcos. Cost more than it should for only 2 or 3 days and I frankly do not know
why?
I'd be happy to host. I have 350 acres in Bee County. That's between
Corpus Christi and San Antonio. Free, no charge. Large Pavillion and
one windmill. No river, creek or kitchen. Plenty of thorns and cow pies.
Don's iPhone.
On Dec 2, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net
One of the biggest expenses of a TSA Convention is the absolute
requirement of a large enough building to hold talks and to also have
room for the Photo and Map Salons. The building needs to be covered
from the elements and needs to be dark enough so that people can see a
PowerPoint
David,
Gas is not an issue for me, it's the drive time involved...
Have it where you want and I'll consider if I can make it or not...
Bill
- Original Message -
From: David dlocklea...@gmail.com
To: Cavers Texas texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:25 PM
For eight days, 21-21 November 2009, 25 cavers descended upon the remote
La Camotera plateau near the village of Laguna de Sanchez for
exploration, survey, and documentation of the caves and karst there.
And also for some quality socializing, feasting, and enjoying the
fantastic scenery and the
Some of the recent comments about the TSA spring convention are
thought-provoking and a bit amusing.
First, let's establish exactly where we stand geographically. Look at this map
http://pages.suddenlink.net/carl-kunath/100-250_miles_from_Burnet.jpg
to find the point most central to all
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