you can
get to a wall and set a bolt. Safety and speed are also improved using a
number of rebelays, especially on exit after a long expedition. It’s nice to
be able to rest without holding everyone else up. 1,500 feet is a long way to
climb, even if you are using stairs and have no pack.
DirtDoc
asked me to make a presentation at their Winter
Technical Meeting in Albuquerque Dec 5, and I will shortly start putting
together a presentation. I want to have my facts straight.
DirtDoc
with nice calligraphy. There is a 1980 description of his travels: Xu
Xiake’s Travels, edited by Zhe Shaotan, Wu Yinshou, 1980: Shanghai Ancient
Books Publishing House. That, of course, is in Chinese.
DirtDoc
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From: "Mixon Bill"
To: dirt...@comcast
trusty dog,
Chow.
DirtDoc
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From: "Frank Binney"
To: "Texas Cavers"
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:03:25 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Statuesque Cavers
“ Xu traveled more than 5,000 km, surveyed 300 ca
people”.
I'd call Xu both a caver and a karst scientist.
DirtDoc
Back Home from China
Just to let you know that we are back home in Colorado. The bodies are still
vacillating between central China and here, but give us another day and we will
be whole again. I am sorry I missed TCR, and especially the Kunathian
remembrance of the sucker days.
Back Home from China
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Just to let you know that we are back home in Colorado. The bodies are still
vacillating between central China and here, but give us another day and we will
Back Home from China
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Just to let you know that we are back home in Colorado. The bodies are still
vacillating between central China and here, but give us another day and we will
OH - that was obviously 'Man vs Wild' on the Discovery channel.
e big windows on the west side off Solitario Peak which look in to
Fresno Canyon. That might make it sorta cave related. I guess I'll have a
look. 8 PM in Denver. Advertised as 9PM elsewhere. A repeat from last week,
in case you missed it (we did).
DirtDoc
expeditions and offer more caver-oriented treks to the spectacular
caves of China. If you are going to be in China anyhow, they can arrange real
caving trips tailored to your skill level and experience.
Dwight Deal
Aka: DirtDoc
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t at
http://www.focusedtours.com/
We will be in far western China in September and October, but not in the karst.
Our next karst trip to China will be October 2010 – folks are signing up for
that now, as the trip is limited in size.
Dwight Deal
Aka: DirtDoc
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Re: Circling in the Guads and Science thereunto apertaining
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Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] Circling in the Guads
Hi Dwight!
Science behing which
Glad to hear there is science behind the circling path.
Many classic stories, especially on Guadalupe Ridge. A Special Spot is on the
way back to Hunt Camp from Sentinal-Gunsight. There are two little low knobs
that, especially and night in the fog, that you tend to figure-eight around.
>>>Wi-Fi? Cell-phone access? Haven't you people ever heard of vacations?
-- Mixon
Good point, Bill.
Perhaps if you wrapped aluminum foil all around The Longest Cave it would
providse a place of sanctuary --
Dirt Doc
Hey Gillum, and others. We’ve already taken care of Mike Wilburn off line.
Yes, Blair is the person you need to contact – he usually lurks on Cave Texas
but I’ll give you his email and telephone to any pit bouncer who contacts me
directly. His phone is listed in Terlingua.
T
On June 5 David called our attention to thi s new headlamp. I found it on sale
in tre A utomotive D ept of a local Target in Denver for $29.99. I think
David's assessment is pretty much right on and, at this price, it is certainy a
bargan.
DirtDoc
Selected parts of Davids r
obsession. (Hi MOS)
Ask yurself the difference between 6 inches, 10 feet, and 100 miles of virgen
cave? Every inch is a memory.
We need young cavers to join us in our community. If this article helps,
that's great.
DirtDoc
&q
Thanks. Shrink rhymes with a stink. Also Terlingua Sink. Come out and visit
us in Terlingua sometime. If we are there. Let me know if you see the image
of Madrid Falls in the TPWG Mag. I went out with Blair in Feb to take the
shot.
DirtDoc
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Ahh, Guilin. This has been on my must see list but it will have to wait. A
photographers dream!
Thanks Ron. I tried to reply off-line, but it came back.
Guilin is, indeed. But some of
University under Chris
Groves. Here is a link to the interview: Cave On - 2 Foreign Explorers
Obsessed with China's Caves.
http://www.china.org.cn/english/environment/207822.htm
DirtDoc
Thanks for posting that, Jerry. I have long wondered how the 8 million figure
could be justified.
DirtDoc
We still have a few places open for our return to the fabulous karst of SW
China in October. This is NOT expedition caving, but we get into a lot of
caves, travel through fantastic scenery, and have wonderful cultural
experiences. We learn about Chinese studies and visit the scientists at
Directors we could possibly have.
DirtDoc
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From: Robert B
Just a quick thank you to some past NSS Directors from Texas.
Well spoke, Bill. And, without doubt, one of the greatest perks of being on
the Board are the great social events at the non-Convention Board meetings.
They were all great. Then there was Buda, Texas .
DirtDoc
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From: Mixon Bill
> Yes,
Geeze!!! Turn my back for a moment and my email is, like, Totally Clogged!
Perhaps you can cut this thread down to continuing with concise meaningful
comments.
Dirt Doc.
This is a little off topic, certinly not caves as such. If you are not aware
of these, however, I know they will be of interest to a few of you.
I have found these on NetFlix and you may or may not have seen them - I did not
know about either one.
THE UNFORSEEN- A Robert Redford production fro
I don't know, Ted. In fact, I have no idea how many were actually sold. They
were handed out quite liberally to the leg and others, which was a major part
of the idea. Inquire of Texas Monthly. I'm certain you can check out a copy
through interlibrary loan, though
. MANY others devoted countless hours and personal expense to the
political and acquisition parts of the process.
Dirtdoc
You are right. Some of it got pretty interesting.
There was just such a PILE of it.
DirtDoc
I have manfully refrained (to date) from commenting. However, my inbox has
overflowed as a result of a gigantic crapalanche from Texascavers. I just
looked, and it is up over my ankles at the moment.
DirtDoc
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From: jran...@gmail.com
So is this a
West Texas for about 17 years and was
in and out of Big Bend Ranch numerous times before and after the life of the
NAS.
DirtDoc
Breaks of the Canadian River, Capote
Falls, and the Blue Elbow Swamp on the Lousiana border. There are some other
Wildlife Management and other areas that also have benefited.
DirtDoc
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From: "Bill Bentley"
Matt (Turner),
I wa
of the things? I did not get to that through the Posideon
link. Anyhow, it is GREAT to learn that Bill has finally found a way to get
the fruits of his inventive mind and engineering skills out as a commercial
product to the public. HORRAY!!!
DirtDoc
Jenkins ->has anyone gotten these vide
week) get low marks
for fact checking. Check out the Hong Meigui web site:
http://www.hongmeigui.net/
DirtDoc
X
>From Erin Lynch and Duncan Collis at http://www.hongmeigui.net/
Despite reports to the contrary, the system is still 1020m deep (deep
week) get low marks
for fact checking. Check out the Hong Meigui web site:
http://www.hongmeigui.net/
DirtDoc
X
>>From Erin Lynch and Duncan Collis at http://www.hongmeigui.net/
Despite reports to the contrary, the system is still 1020
Chris - great to meet you at Jewel Cave last weekend. Hard to realize that it
was 49 years ago that I started polking around in there. I found myself
looking carefully at the exposures both inside the cave and in the
reconstituted Minnelusa road cut on the west side of Hell Canyon. There are
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_10284961
hypogenic karst and the
50th aniversery convention of the Italinan cavers and speleologists. Guess
they are the same age as the Sandia Grotto.
Enjoy.
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I have received a fair amount of grief off-line (some rightly called flame) for
my comments earlier this week. First of all, I apologize for my gruff (and in
some folks eyes, inappropriate or �flip�) on-line attitude.
HOWEVER, there is an important issue here.
vention is not over! The full-fledged hurrican appears avoided.
DirtDoc
PS - we had a wonderful rundown on the 2009 ICS in Kerrville at the photo salon
last night. The convention of a lifetime!! It should not to be missed! Start
planning to attend NOW! Oh - and if you want to present a paper,
ff.
Love from the DirtDoc
I am not sure what to say.
Better Late Than Never??
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>>>I stand by my observation that something about the photo looks weird.
Hey, Louise!@! I thought you lived in Texas for a while!!
DirtDoc
David??
Wimpy led's and light magnification technology in a $80 "toy".
Fertile Minds with too little to do may be able to make unique devices with
this one.
http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/hands_on_jakks_eyeclops_night.php
DirtDoc
s for the bus in Slovenia and Croatia in Spetember.
DirtDoc
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> In 1971 I was in the Army
Yes, Gill. Time to visit Austin school bus again and find a good used diesel
shortie.
Dirtdoc
> The return of the SpeleoCamper may be near.
>
> --Ediger
Nice, George. Thanks for the update.
Dirtdoc
he volcanics and over the
limestone.
I recall I wrote that up in the Madera Canyon Texas Natural Areas Survey report
on Madera Canyon.
Dirtdoc
Classic Karst Tour � Slovenia and Croatia September 8-22, 2008
We have a good core group including some well-known cavers and can still
accommodate a few more on this trip. Decisions need to be made fairly soon on
order to secure airline seats. This is not a caving trip as such, but we do get
SW China Karstlands, October 16-November 1, 2008.
We can still accommodate a few more on this trip, but decisions need to be made
fairly soon in order to secure airline seats. This is not a caving trip as
such, but we do get into a lot of caves and have quite a varied cultural
experience.
issue that only gets worse as more folks discover caves and
caving. I have no answer, but all of us that appreciate caves must think about
it.
DirtDoc
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> I'm afraid you are right.
> Mike
x
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issue that only gets worse as more folks discover caves and
caving. I have no answer, but all of us that appreciate caves must think about
it.
DirtDoc
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> I'm afraid you are right.
> Mike
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Now if anyone remembers Squire's feet in 1968, it is obvious that definition
#1, and perhaps #2 for the rest of us, was appropriate . But this is too
OT to continue, Grode.
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s of water escaped.
More story and images in the Denver Post:
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more private location of Grode Hollow (Grode/Groad - ah
more vagaries of the spelling and folklore by Texas cavers) the more delicate
and artistic results of using unclothed female body parts.
Humph!! "Smear!" Indeed!!
For shame, for your choice of words, Carl.
"M
I apologize! Now that you point it out, that is really pretty serious.
Dirtdoc
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> That picture was included in the "Serious Side" section in the portion
> dealing
> with the Texas cave
to paint TR's truck (see p. 317 in 50 years --).
I'm not exactly sure why Carl included that under his title of "Serious Side
of Texas Caving". Probably because it was an image just too good not to use
somewhere.
DirtDoc
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Thanks, Katie.
That confirms the story that I heard when we visited the cave in October 2005.
It is pertinent because we are taking a group back there in September.
Thanks for tracking this down.
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Update in plans for our Croatia and Slovenia Classic Karst tour in September,
2008
We (Dwight and Mary Deal) have been out of town for the past month and are just
now firming up plans for the trip. This is not a caving expedition but a
tourist trip that emphasizes karst geology and hydrology an
Update in plans for our Croatia and Slovenia Classic Karst tour in September,
2008
We (Dwight and Mary Deal) have been out of town for the past month and are just
now firming up plans for the trip. This is not a caving expedition but a
tourist trip that emphasizes karst geology and hydrology an
Well spoke, George.
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-caver.
Our friends in Japan have developed a new robot which should make your life
easier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIs9H0WFus
Now, can we push on to other topics??
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guide . Call the Park Service
432-477-2251 and ask. You have to get a permit from them and I am certain that
they will shovel all the required True Poop your way. Let me know what you
find
out!
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SW China Karst and Slovenia and Croatia
Just to let you know that more information for next September (Croatia and
Slovenia) and October (SE China Karst) will be coming shortly.
We are in the Big Bend of Texas and trying to solve our internet connection and
computer problems, which should be fi
SW China Karst and Slovenia and Croatia Classic Karst
Just to let you know that more information for next September (Croatia and
Slovenia) and October (SE China Karst) will be coming shortly.
We are in the Big Bend of Texas and trying to solve our internet connection and
computer problems, whic
- the goat had been tied to an old truck transmission.
It was, of course, Jim Hixson's transmission from Beasty.
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ompanion.
So I guess the World Has Got a Goat.
Spoil Sport!
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From: "Don Cooper"
> My own first exposure to this story was, I believe, through a cartoon.
> Possibly drawn by Charlie Loving. I believe in the first ren
ed Glen what that was all about.
�He was looking for his goat and can't find it. He had tied it to a railroad
tie somewhere around here�, Glen said.
DirtDoc
PS: Blair retold a version of this in his wonderful little book:
Tales from the Terlingua Porch by Blair Pittman
Available from
, David, it is not a hybrid in that sense and it
burns a fair amount of diesel. If you call 14 1/2 mpg a fair amount.
http://www.turtleexpedition.com/vehicles/turtle5.php
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rip is pretty slim.
Blair should be at Villa de la Mina, and Ring Huggins at his shop on the south
side of the road in Study Butte, between the motel and the Study Butte Store.
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Here is an interesting short article from NASA looking at Hawaii as an analog
to
the Mars volcanoes (and pits). It is not directly cave related, however.
DirtDoc
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/mars_volcanoes.html
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Here is an interesting short article from NASA looking at Hawaii as an analog
to
the Mars volcanoes (and pits). It is not directly cave related, however.
DirtDoc
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2007/mars_volcanoes.html
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From:
> She wrote about it for the the free weekly newspaper, the Dallas Observer.
Well done, folks. And I mean that!
That is also just the right tone to bring hoards of cave vandels into the Great
Outdoors.
Dirt
Hi Louise:
"Barry Beck's dog and I tried to fit in the same corkscrew in Midnight - - - -
- -"
You sure that was not Crooked Thumb and Woola? I'm quite sure you were on the
same rainy Triangle weekend trip where the two dogs surprised some of the
locals - .
Thumb was trained to wait until
Thanks, Charles. Yours was a rational, polite, and considerate comment.
THINK before engaging mouth, or the hitting the send key.
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a considerable distance north of the peak. Access
to the base of the falls was through the Chambers Ranch outside of Candelaria,
near Capote Peak.
DirtDoc
> x
> In 1991, the state accepted a gift from the Conservation Fund of 9,269
> acres in
Yes, Geary, in a general sense I am. You are most diplomatic! I was
addressing the larger geologic setting and should have mentioned the
groundwater withdrawal problems. Between your note and mine, I think we have
covered most of the bases.
Remind me in person and sometime I will tell you ab
broken before. There is not much problem for individuals, unless your house
happens to be on top of one of them when does move. Not very probable in your
lifetime, but it could happen -.
All things are relative, and driving to a cave is a LOT more dangerous!
DirtDoc
My bet is with them.
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which was previously published, a bit at a time, in THE NEW YORKER, by Pulitzer
Prize winning (for this book) John McPhee. He does a great job explaining
geologic time and the wonders of our Earth to non-scientists.
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Thanks. BTW, the posting is clearly cave-related as it is the 500 meters plus
downcutting that is responsible for the caves that you can get into along the
Rio Grande! At least in draining them and making them air-filled so us
non-divers can enter them.
DirtDoc
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imi is only approximately located.
Until the recent renovation, this map was prominently displayed in the Warnock
Center in Lajitas.
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caused Ken Laidlaw to initiate the rules for a less destructive version at
White Salmon. Children (and cavers) must play.
Yes, Jim will be missed by some of us, for sure.
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Pity you were not caving when I was beating around Mexico in the 60's and 70's!
I have appreciated your posts.
The "rental property" is a large house zoned commercial a block off the center
of downtown Ruidoso. That part is rented long-term and pays for the property
and a bit more.
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cated the immediate
entrance area.
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Lotta pictures of the disassembly of one
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seem pretty bomb-proof.
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drivable (barely) until we
regained a graded rode. One more big replacement yucca and it got us home.
Hard to do that with a modern computer module-.
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that it speaks to the upcoming
availability of young cave surveyors.
But � those interested might follow this link which is an in-depth (and
unfortunately seems insightful and correct) discussion of math education in our
high schools:
http://www.mathpath.com/booklet.htm
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skier he would ski up the mountain and ride the
lift down.
One for the MAD ascender.
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http://www.stoneaerospace.com/news-/news-zacaton-mission3-01.php
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