Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Re: Halitetites

2018-09-01 Thread Michael Queen
speculations on terminology: In some ways, speleology is now in an evolutionary state, much as biology was in the early 18th century. Faced with a myriad of different things, they struggled to which diverse characteristics were the most important, and which were less critical. Order was eventuall

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] ABC 20/20 Special on Thailand Cave Rescue

2018-07-10 Thread Michael Queen
Could "cave disease" be the English translation of whatever Thai dialect might be used locally? While in English speaking countries we speak in shaded and well defined terms and Linnean hierarchies, it seems likely that, in a less technological society, everything bad associated with a cave migh

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] 12 miles in USA Today

2017-07-12 Thread Michael Queen via Texascavers
g for the next short lived adventure. M On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:58 PM, Michael Queen wrote: > When I have been asked about newbies going to Lech I have always stressed > the skills and general fitness and competence needed. However, I have also > said that someone with determinati

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] 12 miles in USA Today

2017-07-12 Thread Michael Queen via Texascavers
When I have been asked about newbies going to Lech I have always stressed the skills and general fitness and competence needed. However, I have also said that someone with determination and w/o too serious health issues can undertake learning and practice, attach oneself to smaller mapping projects

Re: [Texascavers] Land ownership in Texas

2017-07-11 Thread Michael Queen via Texascavers
their own private > fiefdom. That may not help much if you want access. > > DirtDoc > > -- > *From: *"Michael Queen" > *To: *"Dwight" > *Cc: *"TAG Net" , idigca...@yahoo.com, "Cave NM" > , "Cave Texas

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Future of NSS membership

2017-07-11 Thread Michael Queen via Texascavers
I think it is a drastic oversimplification to suggest that private ownership of caves necessarily makes things easier for us or safer for the caves than agency ownership. We are still excluded from Skull Cave (Albany County, NY), because the owners were spooked by an accident (in a separate cave ow

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Andy Komensky

2017-03-30 Thread Michael Queen
Andy was the first caver I met here in the Guadalupes - the NSS member with the lowest number. Meeting him changed the course of my life in ways large and small. In a great many ways I trace much of the science, upon which my life has centered, and many of my friends, who have made my life enjoyabl

Re: [SWR] June 2014 - BLM New Mexico White-Nose Syndrome Strategy and Closure Update

2014-06-17 Thread michael queen
As much as I am frustrated by the BLM and other land management agencies quoting "data supporting the potential for human transmission" without letting interested parties know what that data was (the "data" cited by CBD was totally unconvincing), I appreciate many of Stan's thoughts. We should enco

Re: [SWR] Continuing FOIA commentary

2014-06-06 Thread michael queen
an illegal action was taken > by the BLM. > > > Jennifer > > -- > From: nmca...@centurylink.net > To: jmofgu...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 10:29:05 -0600 > CC: s...@caver.net > Subject: [SWR] Continuing FOIA commentary > > >

Re: [SWR] SWR BLM FOIA a mistake

2014-06-05 Thread michael queen
up depends for credibility? How can these arguments be presented on the Internet, so that when one searches CBD one finds as many criticisms as self-serving claims of helping save the planet? Michael Queen On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Stan Allison wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Well, y

Re: [SWR] SWR BLM FOIA a mistake

2014-05-31 Thread michael queen
tement had it been approved by the membership, and opens themselves to the appearance of have acted unilaterally, without concern for the ideas of SWR membership Michael Queen On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 8:22 PM, Stan Allison wrote: > Southwestern Cavers, > > I am writing to you as a

Re: [SWR] Background on the FOIA request to BLM

2014-05-23 Thread michael queen
that only has value before it's played. The card of last resort, as it were, and that is said by one who hesitates not to write critical letters to the highest levels, and with some guarded success. Michael Queen On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM, dave belski wrote: > On 5/23/

Re: [SWR] Oklahoma removed from list of suspected bat fungus areas

2014-05-14 Thread michael queen
Amen On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Diana Tomchick < diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu> wrote: > On May 14, 2014, at 11:51 AM, Harvey DuChene wrote: > > > Now it costs Agencies money to inventory and manage cave resources. It > requires people, vehicle use, computers, GPS units, software and

Re: [SWR] Oklahoma removed from list of suspected bat fungus areas

2014-05-14 Thread michael queen
Ms. Power's assertion that cavers are just being selfish and that the land management agencies are just doing their jobs balancing diverse interests is simply not credible. Most cavers are not criticizing the need for research and carefully designed and considered mitigative responses to WNS. But

Re: [SWR] Oklahoma removed from list of suspected bat fungus areas

2014-05-13 Thread michael queen
excessively brief period allowed for comments sends the message that the concern and experience of the caving community counts for little. Michael Queen On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 5:08 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > > > Humans have carried fungal spores across the entire planet and probably > in

Re: [SWR] Fw: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News

2013-03-20 Thread michael queen
here's a line from Danny Devito in Other People's Money, where he says something to the effect that there is one sure way of going down the tubes- to get a bigger and bigger share of a shrinking market. I hope the Society doesn't follow this course. Michael Queen 13805 On Wed, Mar

Re: [SWR] Fw: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News

2013-03-20 Thread michael queen
here's a line from Danny Devito in Other People's Money, where he says something to the effect that there is one sure way of going down the tubes- to get a bigger and bigger share of a shrinking market. I hope the Society doesn't follow this course. Michael Queen 13805 On Wed, Mar

Re: [SWR] Fw: [NSSwest] BOG proposal to end the printed News

2013-03-20 Thread michael queen
here's a line from Danny Devito in Other People's Money, where he says something to the effect that there is one sure way of going down the tubes- to get a bigger and bigger share of a shrinking market. I hope the Society doesn't follow this course. Michael Queen 13805 On Wed, Mar