Re: [Texascavers] Texas Highways Cave Article July 1980

2020-04-22 Thread Logan
Thanks Carl. I have an original of your 1980 article and will be looking for the May 2020 issue. Is it available in some bookstores? On 4/22/2020 3:15 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Enjoy, ===Carl Kunath

Re: [Texascavers] Texas Highways Cave Article July 1980

2020-04-22 Thread Charles Loving
I tried to forward it but failed. Nice article however. On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:22 PM Carl Kunath wrote: > Enjoy, > > ===Carl Kunath > > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com >

Re: [Texascavers] TH May 2020

2020-04-22 Thread Mark Minton
Nice! Thanks, Carl! From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Carl Kunath Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 4:14 PM To: TexasCavers Subject: [Texascavers] TH May 2020 The current (May 2020) issue of Texas Highways contains a feature article about Texas

Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways

2020-04-22 Thread Crash Kennedy
Mark, I helped with that article, and will be receiving a couple of complimentary issues. Not sure if I'll get a digital copy as well, but even if I don't, I'll scan the article and make it available. They did a lot of fact checking and I think the article turned out pretty well. Jim On Wed,

Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways

2020-04-22 Thread Mark Minton
Thanks, Bill. If you get a copy, I’d like to see a scan. Mark From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 1:21 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways Mark, The May issue will have the article

Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways

2020-04-22 Thread Bill Steele
e > article, but all I got was the teaser you sent. > > Mark M > > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Mark > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 12:19 PM > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Cc: Minton Mark > Subject: Re: [

Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways

2020-04-22 Thread Mark Minton
: Minton Mark Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways Mark et al: Here’s the link to the promo, but probably have to subscribe online to see any more! https://texashighways.com/travel/photography/no-words-can-describe-this-no-name-cave-in-the-texas-hill-country/ Mark Ross

Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways

2020-04-22 Thread Mark
To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways Charlie, There was no attachment. :-( Mark Minton From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Loving Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:10 AM To: Ted Samsel; Cavers Texas; Terry

Re: [Texascavers] Tex Highways

2020-04-22 Thread Mark Minton
Charlie, There was no attachment. :-( Mark Minton From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Charles Loving Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 6:10 AM To: Ted Samsel; Cavers Texas; Terry Hollsinger; Gill Ediger; Crash Kennedy; Bill Steele; Carl Kunath

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter 42 is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Logan
Preston & Carol, I picked up my copy from Jim and decided to use Paypal to see if it is as easy as Jim & Katie said. It is! I just paid $18 cash to my pal Jim. :-D On 4/19/2020 3:56 PM, Carol W Russell wrote: Thanks Katie, I plan to use Paypal. Carol On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM Katherine

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter 42 is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Carol W Russell
Thanks Katie, I plan to use Paypal. Carol On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:27 AM Katherine Arens wrote: > and, folks, you don’t NEED a paypal account — your credit card will work > with it! Weill send out the notice when paypal is ready to go > > katie > > On Apr 19, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Crash Kennedy

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter 42 is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Katherine Arens
and, folks, you don’t NEED a paypal account — your credit card will work with it! Weill send out the notice when paypal is ready to go katie On Apr 19, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Crash Kennedy mailto:cavercr...@gmail.com>> wrote: Preston, you can still mail a good old-fashioned check, also! But

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter 42 is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Crash Kennedy
Preston, you can still mail a good old-fashioned check, also! But seriously, a PayPal account is super easy to set up and use. You'll wonder why you never had one before. Jim On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 8:53 AM PRESTON FORSYTHE wrote: > Yes, we will mail order as soon as figure out how to pay.

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter 42 is here!

2020-04-19 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE
Yes, we will mail order as soon as figure out how to pay. Never done pay pal, and that seems to be only way to buy? It would have been worth just going to WVA to pick up a copy. Preston in Browder Sent from AT Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM, Logan wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] AMCS Activities Newsletter 42 is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Logan
Great news! Thanks to Cait, Bill, and all the contributors. Jim, I'll be over later today to pick up my copy. Assume I don't have to pay the $5 postage.:-) On 4/18/2020 11:57 AM, William R. Elliott wrote: The new AMCS Activities Newsletter, Number 42, has arrived from the printer. It is 146

Re: [Texascavers] FW: NSS Convention cancelled

2020-04-17 Thread Jacqui Thomas
Understandable but certainly heartbreaking, especially for all the folks who have been working on giving us a great Convention experience. I’m sad. Jacqui Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, April 17, 2020, Mark Minton  wrote: -Original

Re: [Texascavers] Need some good reading?

2020-04-01 Thread Charles Loving
I am reading a book about a Pig and four cats in Mexico working undercover for Vincente Fox. On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 4:29 PM Katherine Arens wrote: > The journal of the Society for *Technology and Culture *has just make its > back run free and open access on project MUSE. > >

Re: [Texascavers] Underground Texas Grotto Virtual Meeting Announcement

2020-03-31 Thread Logan
Thanks for the link to the youtube channel! On 3/31/2020 10:25 AM, Underground Texas Grotto wrote: The UT Grotto is doing our best to ramp up our recording and archiving of speakers. We are doing our best to create access to grotto meetings during this closure. We have a youtube channel

Re: [Texascavers] Underground Texas Grotto Virtual Meeting Announcement

2020-03-31 Thread Underground Texas Grotto
The UT Grotto is doing our best to ramp up our recording and archiving of speakers. We are doing our best to create access to grotto meetings during this closure. We have a youtube channel where we will post recorded meetings when we have the personnel, equipment, and the permission from the

Re: [Texascavers] Underground Texas Grotto Virtual Meeting Announcement

2020-03-30 Thread Logan
I just called Kristina Hagar to see if there is a way to record Sean's presentation so it can be seen later by the "virtually impaired" members of the club, including me. She said yes that can and will be done. It would be good to have every speaker's presentations preserved in a format(s)

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Postponed

2020-03-24 Thread Denise P
Kris has clarified that the convention in early May has been cancelled. Get Outlook for Android From: Texascavers on behalf of Kris Pena Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 3:55:09 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] TSA

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

2020-03-23 Thread Carol W Russell
Charlie has mapped the caver soul On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:02 PM Charles Loving wrote: > > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

2020-03-23 Thread William R. Elliott
Well, maybe these came out of a saloon... *William R. (Bill) Elliott* *speodes...@gmail.com * 573-291-5093 cell On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 9:55 AM Tim Stich wrote: > Terry, we need a new inane project pronto! > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:25 PM Carol W Russell > wrote: > >> If there's a Map

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

2020-03-23 Thread Tim Stich
Terry, we need a new inane project pronto! On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:25 PM Carol W Russell wrote: > If there's a Map Saloon, these are perfect.But also for the Salon > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:03 PM Nancy Weaver wrote: > >> first place! Nancy >> >> > On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Charles

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Thailand Cave Rescue Books

2020-03-21 Thread Evatt
Lee, You are now appointed the Official Mixon Cave Book Reviewer. Please read and review all 14 books and publish the comments fourteen days from now on SWR Cavers. Thanks, Jim E^v^ From: Lee H. Skinner Sent: March 20, 2020 4:57 PM To: Michael Mansur ; Sandia Grotto ; New Mexico Cavers ;

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread Joe Ranzau
I concur with Jules - Having been on the regulators side of the table, petitions or even just a bunch of comments that pasted in the same message do little to move the needle. We need thoughtful messages that reinforce the importance of protecting this place, using good science, and making smart

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread Jules Jenkins
Carol, I understand your dilemma however, again my numerous experiences have been 10 signatures doesn’t at all have the impact that 10 individual letters will have. If you need help w/computing, I’m sure there’s a caver close by who could assist. Jules > On Mar 20, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Carol W

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread Carol W Russell
Jay, wonderful writing! As to other comments, if there is a way to sign a statement from many cavers please let me know how. (I have trouble with computers). Carol R. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:05 PM Jay Jorden wrote: > FYI > > -- Forwarded message - > From: > Date: Thu, Mar

Re: [Texascavers] TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread julie jenkins
Bill, is there a way to post those 49 comments on tex cave? Over many years/decades of dealing w/City of Austin, TCEQ, USFW, TXDOT and other bureaucracy’s, Science is what is needed, emotions don’t even touch these people. I’ve interacted w/TCEQ staff who completely agree and still have to

Re: [Texascavers] TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread julie jenkins
We’ve got very educated and articulate cavers out there. How about someone writing up comments that others can copy and sign, send in? We need lots of people, like ALL CAVERS, NOT JUST IN TEXAS to participate. Geary, can this go out to the NSS at large for comment? Jay, your comments were

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread Bill Steele
Nicely written, Jay, thanks a lot. We heard last night that 49 comments were received before yesterday’s deadline. Thank you to those who rose to the occasion. There will be another opportunity to submit a comment by a future deadline. Information about it will be posted here. Bill Steele

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: TCEQ Confirmation: Your public comment on Permit Number WQ0015835001 was received.

2020-03-20 Thread Nancy
> > Excellent comment. Jay. Thanks. Nancy ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

2020-03-19 Thread Jacqueline Thomas
Thank you for making my evening! J. LaRue Thomas jlrtho...@verizon.net > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Carol W Russell wrote: > > If there's a Map Saloon, these are perfect.But also for the Salon > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:03 PM Nancy Weaver wrote: > first place! Nancy > > > On Mar 19,

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

2020-03-19 Thread Carol W Russell
If there's a Map Saloon, these are perfect.But also for the Salon On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:03 PM Nancy Weaver wrote: > first place! Nancy > > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Charles Loving > wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > Charlie Loving > > Hole.jpg>

Re: [Texascavers] MAP SALOON ENTRIES

2020-03-19 Thread Nancy Weaver
first place! Nancy > On Mar 19, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > > > > -- > Charlie Loving > Hole.jpg> WALKER.jpg>___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >

Re: [Texascavers] If you care about Honey Creek Cave, please send your comments today or tomorrow and again before the rescheduled public meeting

2020-03-18 Thread Pete Lindsley
Try a different browser or dump your browser cache and try again. - Pete On Mar 18, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Carol W Russell wrote: using the link, Im putting it in as the permit no. and hitting the next button--same result.C On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:55 PM Nancy Weaver

Re: [Texascavers] If you care about Honey Creek Cave, please send your comments today or tomorrow and again before the rescheduled public meeting

2020-03-18 Thread Carol W Russell
using the link, Im putting it in as the permit no. and hitting the next button--same result.C On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:55 PM Nancy Weaver wrote: > Carol - I just used link and *WQ0015835001 and it came up just fine. > maybe try again. Nancy* > > > I tried to use the no. and online link you

Re: [Texascavers] If you care about Honey Creek Cave, please send your comments today or tomorrow and again before the rescheduled public meeting

2020-03-18 Thread Nancy Weaver
Carol - I just used link and WQ0015835001 and it came up just fine. maybe try again. Nancy > I tried to use the no. and online link you gave and was told "number not > found." > > Carol > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:06 PM Bill Steele > wrote: > Hello

Re: [Texascavers] If you care about Honey Creek Cave, please send your comments today or tomorrow and again before the rescheduled public meeting

2020-03-18 Thread Carol W Russell
I tried to use the no. and online link you gave and was told "number not found." Carol On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:06 PM Bill Steele wrote: > Hello Texas cavers, > > Since most of you are staying home more than usual, please help with this. > > *The public meeting scheduled for March 19 has

Re: [Texascavers] Additions to AMCS maps page

2020-03-18 Thread William R. Elliott
OK, thanks Mark. I got another comment from an experienced caver who thought maybe the Puebla cavers customarily name a cave "sistema" if there are even just two small caves connected to each other. A lot of the Puebla work has been done by Mexican and European expeditions. In the future I'll try

Re: [Texascavers] Additions to AMCS maps page

2020-03-18 Thread Mark Minton
Bill, Thanks for all your work on the AMCS web site and especially the maps. I can think of a couple of reasons why Puebla has more systems reported than Oaxaca. One is that cavers have been active in Oaxaca over a longer period of time, Huautla being one of the first big systems to have

Re: [Texascavers] Fwd: TCEQ Public Meeting on Honey Creek permit CANCELLED

2020-03-17 Thread Jill Orr
Hi all, I'd like to point out that the links Bill and Annalisa Peace provided are an excellent and easy way to show caver's support; It took me 15 minutes to craft and send my message. Please take the time to support the ban and send your comments. Thanks Bill ! Jill On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Map Salon

2020-03-16 Thread Leia L. Hill
I hope we don’t fully cancel the convention. It’s nice to see ppl. Hopefully we could reschedule it for a little later on in the summer or year? Hopefully this virus is over by then. I hope and pray each one of you is safe, healthy and happy! Keep me updated on what TSA decides to do. Be safe

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Map Salon

2020-03-16 Thread Kris Pena
Correct, the current CDC recommendation is to cancel or postpone in-person events of 50 or more people for the next 8 weeks. That recommendation does apply to TSA Spring Convention and we intend to go to whatever extent necessary to keep our Texas caver family safe and healthy. The TSA board is

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Map Salon

2020-03-16 Thread Diana Tomchick
Actually, it’s now 10 people or less. Very soon we will be under complete lockdown (that’s my guess, take it for what it’s worth). Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry UT Southwestern Medical Center 5323

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention Map Salon

2020-03-16 Thread Denise P
The CDC is recommending no gatherings of 50 or more people for the next 2 months. Will Spring Convention be cancelled?

Re: [Texascavers] Please help Honey Creek Cave...

2020-03-13 Thread Logan
Kurt, thanks for the alert. I will forward it to non-caver friends who will want to know and are conservation activists. Please send the best links you know that will describe the watershed and the cave, with maps and photos if possible. Thanks, Logan On 3/13/2020 7:13 PM, Kurt Menking

Re: [Texascavers] Please help Honey Creek Cave...

2020-03-13 Thread Kurt Menking
Great idea!  On Fri, Mar 13, 2020, 8:18 PM Jill Orr wrote: > HI Kurt, I've proposed to the LNU (Ladies Night Under) group that we make > it an outing...! > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:14 PM Kurt Menking > wrote: > >> As many of you know a development is planned at the top of the Honey >>

Re: [Texascavers] Please help Honey Creek Cave...

2020-03-13 Thread Jill Orr
HI Kurt, I've proposed to the LNU (Ladies Night Under) group that we make it an outing...! On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 7:14 PM Kurt Menking wrote: > As many of you know a development is planned at the top of the Honey Creek > watershed. They plan to drip / inject up to 360,000 gallons per day of >

Re: [Texascavers] Please help Honey Creek Cave...

2020-03-13 Thread jranzau
TCMA will be there. Joe Ranzau 210.289.6839 > On Mar 13, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Bill Steele wrote: > >  > Thanks, Kurt. I’m planning to do both: submit written comments to TCEQ and > show up on March 19. Even though it’s a 260 > mile drive for me, I love and care about Honey Creek Cave enough be

Re: [Texascavers] Please help Honey Creek Cave...

2020-03-13 Thread Bill Steele
Thanks, Kurt. I’m planning to do both: submit written comments to TCEQ and show up on March 19. Even though it’s a 260 mile drive for me, I love and care about Honey Creek Cave enough be there. Good caving, Bill Steele Irving, Texas speleoste...@aol.com > > On Mar 13, 2020, at 7:14 PM,

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-10 Thread Denise P
Ok thanks. Prolly not Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: Texascavers on behalf of Chris Vreeland Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 5:29:05 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pic If you need any 35 mm slides scan

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-09 Thread Jocelyn Hooper
> *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2020 8:31:58 AM > *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Pic > > Ok. I should come visit you soon. Always love a visit to Stricklandia > > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> >

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-06 Thread Chris Vreeland
If you need any 35 mm slides scanned, I still have two good 4000 dpi scanners going at my place. > On Mar 5, 2020, at 11:04 PM, Jocelyn Hooper wrote: > >  > Sigh. I have been through everything Pete had on the computer. I know he > had some slides of this, but nothing transferred into

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-06 Thread James Jasek
The person to contact for pictures of Golondrinas is Terry Raines Terry has everything you probably would ever be able to use Sent from my iPhoneX > On Mar 5, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Denise P wrote: >  Anyone have a classic pic of Golondrinas they could email me? Would be especially good if it

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-06 Thread Denise P
Sorry TC! This was obviously meant to be a private conversation! Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> From: Texascavers on behalf of Denise P Sent: Friday, March 6, 2020 8:31:58 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] P

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-06 Thread Charles Loving
*To:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Pic > > Sigh. I have been through everything Pete had on the computer. I know he > had some slides of this, but nothing transferred into digital. > I am not going to be able to come to your BD Happy Hour on the 22nd. I &g

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-06 Thread Denise P
p://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers From: Texascavers on behalf of Jocelyn Hooper Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2020 11:04:27 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Pic Si

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-06 Thread Charles Loving
Have an ancient video of climbing out. from a trip I took there in 1995 On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 3:00 PM Denise P wrote: > Anyone have a classic pic of Golondrinas they could email me? Would be > especially good if it had a person on rope > > Get Outlook for Android >

Re: [Texascavers] Pic

2020-03-05 Thread Jocelyn Hooper
Sigh. I have been through everything Pete had on the computer. I know he had some slides of this, but nothing transferred into digital. I am not going to be able to come to your BD Happy Hour on the 22nd. I had already promised Colin, Guin and Evan that I would babysit Wren so they, and Evan's

Re: [Texascavers] Cookeville, TN got hit by tornados

2020-03-03 Thread Katherine Arens
thank you . . . On Mar 3, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Rusty Jones mailto:rusty3...@yahoo.com>> wrote: So far, no reported caver deaths. My mother (caver in greater Cookeville are) has been updating me, but she hasn’t said any of the deaths were cavers or people she knew. -Rusty Jones On Mar 3, 2020,

Re: [Texascavers] Cookeville, TN got hit by tornados

2020-03-03 Thread Rusty Jones
So far, no reported caver deaths. My mother (caver in greater Cookeville are) has been updating me, but she hasn’t said any of the deaths were cavers or people she knew. -Rusty Jones > On Mar 3, 2020, at 17:40, Katherine Arens wrote: > >  Anyone knows of the situation of local cavers? >

Re: [Texascavers] New edition of the Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers

2020-03-01 Thread Pete Lindsley
Thanks BIll! - Pete On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:30 PM, William R. Elliott wrote: Dear cavers, I just posted a new edition of the Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers. Go to http://cavelife.info/hall/hall.htm This edition adds 12 more obituaries and tributes: 2020

Re: [Texascavers] Cave Blocks For Sale

2020-03-01 Thread Carol W Russell
Aack! What happened to the caves? Carol On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 7:43 AM Robert B wrote: > Good morning. > I found this FB marketplace post amusing. Hope ya'll will too. > If I had a need or such large stone blocks, I would prefer the rough > natural look to the smooth cut surface. > > Cave

Re: [Texascavers] Cave Blocks For Sale

2020-02-29 Thread Pete Lindsley
James, at $95 and 2500 pounds each, all you need is an appropriate trailer that you can load and unload. Unfortunately it’s too far from Placitas for me to consider where I would even put one ;-) - Pete On Feb 29, 2020, at 12:28 PM, James Jasek wrote: Jon I would love to have one of these

Re: [Texascavers] Cave Blocks For Sale

2020-02-29 Thread Vivian Loftin
yeah, as a landscape architect I've built retaining walls, benches, outdoor classroom seating, and sound blocking walls with these commercially available "cave" rock. I think the texture comes from bedding plane seams, too planar for actual cave walls. Vivian > On Feb 29, 2020, at 1:29 PM,

Re: [Texascavers] Cave Blocks For Sale

2020-02-29 Thread James Jasek
Jon I would love to have one of these Cave blogs how much do they cost and how would I get one to Waco Sent from my iPhoneX > On Feb 29, 2020, at 8:09 AM, John Brooks > wrote: > The greater cost for those blocks is the transportation. We use those blocks for benches and landscape elements

Re: [Texascavers] Cave Blocks For Sale

2020-02-29 Thread John Brooks
The greater cost for those blocks is the transportation. We use those blocks for benches and landscape elements for projects in central Texas - and the cost is reasonable. But every time, we try to use those in North Texas, the transportation costs are excessive. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb

Re: [Texascavers] New Neanderthal bones found at famous Shanidar Cave | Human World | EarthSky

2020-02-28 Thread Amy Jasek
Oh wow thank you for sharing! We have been fascinated by the idea of ancient hominids burying their dead in caves after seeing that exhibit at the Perot Museum (that one isn't Neanderthal but still) On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 7:45 AM PRESTON FORSYTHE wrote: >

Re: [Texascavers] New Neanderthal bones found at famous Shanidar Cave | Human World | EarthSky

2020-02-28 Thread Ron Ralph
Thanks for that Preston. I really am a fan of Shanidar Cave. Ron From: PRESTON FORSYTHE Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 7:45 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] New Neanderthal bones found at famous Shanidar Cave | Human World | EarthSky

Re: [Texascavers] NASA / DARPA testing Autonomously navigated underground mapping bots

2020-02-28 Thread Michael Harris
DARPA was down at Robber Baron a few weeks ago. Our site was not picked. They do some pretty impressive stuff. Mike On Fri, Feb 28, 2020, 8:31 AM Jon Cradit wrote: > > > >

Re: [Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention - Call For Presenters

2020-02-24 Thread Denise P
The TCMA will have its annual fundraising auction at convention. It's usually on Saturday night after dinner. We are seeking fabulous donations for the auction! Please contact me off list if you have donations. And please show up for the auction with money to buy stuff! We need to pay for our

Re: [Texascavers] Maya Cave Movie

2020-02-21 Thread Jules Jenkins
Not as bad as some ‘cave related films’ but. I gotta wondered why making a good film about the underground seems to be so difficult. Then I think, ‘oh yeah, it’s Hollywood!’ 藍藍藍 > On Feb 14, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Mark Minton wrote: >  There’s a sci-fi movie about the Maya underworld Xibalba,

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cave Salamander Didn't Move for 2, 569 Days

2020-02-18 Thread Lee H. Skinner
Here is a better article on the salamander with more pictures: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/blind-aquatic-salamander-may-have-sat-mostly-still-seven-years Lee On 2/5/2020 1:15 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] Why do so many deadly viral outbreaks originate in bats?

2020-02-12 Thread Lyndon Tiu
Its because, Batman! On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:38 AM Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Ebola, Marburg, SARS, MERS, and now the new coronavirus Covid-19 > , all > share one thing in common – they are thought to have originated in bats. A

Re: [Texascavers] Gone Caving Card Game is available to preorder!

2020-02-11 Thread Bob Booth
A caving card game Kickstarter. Bob On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 9:08 AM curt harler wrote: > See below. > > If you played the game at Carter Caves or any other caving event where > they beta tested it, you know it’s a fun, cave version of Milles Bornes: > play cards to collect feet of cave

Re: [Texascavers] Hard Hats

2020-02-09 Thread Mark Minton
-and-hats/helmet>. Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of jerryat...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:54 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Hard Hats The helmet that saved Blake was

Re: [Texascavers] Hard Hats

2020-02-09 Thread Mark Minton
Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of jerryat...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 8, 2020 10:54 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Hard Hats The helmet that saved Blake was an Ultimate, heavy but

Re: [Texascavers] Hard Hats

2020-02-08 Thread jerryatkin
The helmet that saved Blake was an Ultimate, heavy but quite sturdy and saved me and others from some hard knocks. I once had a carabiner fall from about 60 ft and hit me square on the top of the helmet. Knocked me to my knees but no other damage other than ringing in the ears. Jerry

Re: [Texascavers] Karst Information Portal web site is down?

2020-02-08 Thread George Veni
Diana, Thanks for pointing this out. I was traveling which delayed me from replying. I contacted other members of the Karst Information Portal team and we discovered there was some confusion about who was responsible for registering the domain, which happened about 14 years ago. This problem

Re: [Texascavers] Hard Hats

2020-02-08 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE
I have several authentic Coal Miner "soft hats/helmets" for mounting a carbide light and minor head protection. Those are probably worn prior to 1940. Now I also have my original caving helmet, black hard shell with a small bill only on the front that I wore in 1960, 8th grade. A few years ago

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves

2020-02-07 Thread Bill Steele
avers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Jon Cradit > Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:33 AM > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves > > Mark, > Did he ever say how much unexplored pass

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves

2020-02-07 Thread Mark Minton
Of Jon Cradit Sent: Friday, February 7, 2020 9:33 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves Mark, Did he ever say how much unexplored passage there was? I did see they were caving topless, with no helmets. JC <h

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves

2020-02-07 Thread Jon Cradit
cavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves External Email “Largest unexplored cave” – So how if it’s unexplored, how do they know it’s the largest? I’m surprised to see this from PBS. I went to their web site but there is very little information

Re: [Texascavers] The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers updated again

2020-02-05 Thread Carol W Russell
Bill, thanks for all you do, and thanks also to your helpers. Carol On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 11:30 AM William R. Elliott wrote: > “The Hall” at http://cavelife.info/hall/hall.htm is dedicated to > tributes, biographies, obituaries, and photos about departed cavers and > cave scientists who caved

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] On TV tonight - Mexico Caves

2020-02-05 Thread Mark Minton
“Largest unexplored cave” – So how if it’s unexplored, how do they know it’s the largest? I’m surprised to see this from PBS. I went to their web site but there is very little information about this program. It doesn’t say what cave network, but my guess is somewhere in Quintana Roo. Mark

Re: [Texascavers] Aquarela

2020-02-04 Thread John Corcoran III
Thanks Dwight! Regards, John From: Dwight Deal Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 12:32 PM To: Cave NM ; Cave Texas Subject: Aquarela We just viewed an unusual and exceptionally beautiful film about water: Aquarela Although some have said that it is a film about climate warming, I see it as

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Aquarela

2020-02-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
It’s also available in both formats through Netflix. Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry UT Southwestern Medical Center 5323 Harry Hines Blvd. Rm. ND10.214A Dallas, TX 75390-8816

Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey

2020-02-03 Thread Diana Tomchick
..@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Weaver Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 10:44 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey thanks Andy. Jill told me that the cave was being privately explored and that it was purportedly "3 miles long and going” which

Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey

2020-02-03 Thread Geary Schindel
Nancy, We have been, PM me at tablechair1...@gmail.com and I may be able to help. Thanks, Geary Schindel -Original Message- From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Nancy Weaver Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 5:32 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near

Re: [Texascavers] Shape Memory Alloy Rock Splitters (SMARS)

2020-02-02 Thread Mark Minton
I had not heard of shape-memory alloys being used to split rock, but it makes sense. A related method uses an expanding clay powder that is mixed with water to form a paste and then poured into a drill hole. As it dries, it expands and breaks the rock. Disadvantages of the clay method are that

Re: [Texascavers] The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers updated again

2020-02-02 Thread keith heuss
Mike Hennessy died on January 6, 2020.  He was a caver in the 1970's with the Than SWT Grotto.  Logan McNatt might have more information for your Web page.  I hadn't realized so many cavers have passed, especially in 2019. Thanks for the info.  Keep it up. Keith Heuss On Sunday, February

Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey

2020-02-02 Thread Mark Minton
mmin...@caver.net -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Weaver Sent: Sunday, February 2, 2020 10:44 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey thanks Andy. Jill told me that the cave

Re: [Texascavers] UT Grotto Meeting 1/29/2020 Anouncement

2020-02-02 Thread Underground Texas Grotto
Greetings Cavers, Ah, sorry - I don't look at the email much. We are moving all the talks to our YouTube channel! There may be some small lag from the night they are presented until they are posted. I think the person who posts the videos is at NCRC this week, so that one hasn't been posted yet.

Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey

2020-02-02 Thread Nancy Weaver
thanks Andy. Jill told me that the cave was being privately explored and that it was purportedly "3 miles long and going” which made me think, if true, that cavers would know about it. She was on the ranch studying golden cheek warblers as there was habitat. I’m highly dubious of most

Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey

2020-02-02 Thread grubbsi
Leakey is Real county. There are some caves that have been known for a long time there, names elude me at the moment. The Geology is favorable for caves. Good limestones in the Edwards section, potential confining layers in the underlying Glen Rose. The Frio and its branches are cutting into

Re: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey

2020-02-01 Thread Mark Minton
I presume you mean Frio (River). Mark Minton -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Weaver Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:32 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] cave on ranch near leakey anyone

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Re: Animal dug caves

2020-01-31 Thread Logan
Reminds me of the movie The Princes Bride with the R.O.U.S., Rodents of Unusual Size. A great example of truth is stranger than fiction. On 1/30/2020 8:48 AM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: Very cool. A more well-known set of large animal-dug caves are the salt caves in Africa dug by elephants:

Re: [Texascavers] Bats and Chinese Flu

2020-01-31 Thread Diana Tomchick
It’s a little more complicated than that. Typical wild reservoir for many coronaviruses is bats. Genome published in The Lancet of the 2019-nCoV indicates highest homology (88%) to two bat-derived SARS-like coronaviruses, and 79% identical to the SARSCoV. Bats might be the reservoir, but it’s

Re: [Texascavers] Animal dug caves

2020-01-30 Thread mminton
Very cool. A more well-known set of large animal-dug caves are the salt caves in Africa dug by elephants: . Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On 2020-01-30 04:13, Mike Flannigan wrote: Animal dug caves:

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