Hi David,
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 8:25:54 PM UTC+1, David Bakin wrote:
I am a happy user of TWC. Every few months I check this group to see how
TW5 is coming along and I was very happy to read this message - until I
released it was 3 months old. Has this moratorium paid off? Is
Hi David
Just to a couple of the answers already given by Eric and Mario:
a) The single most important plugin I use is SharedTiddlers, which lets me
have a base wiki which contains nearly all the plugins I use (except
SharedTiddlers itself...) and then a bunch of topic wikis that refer to the
On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 12:25:54 PM UTC-7, David Bakin wrote:
Here's my state: I have several useful TWC wikis in progress ... some
have several hundred tiddlers. Even though there's very little theming
done I have only read that a) TWC tiddlers can't be directly imported to
TW5 and
I am a happy user of TWC. Every few months I check this group to see how
TW5 is coming along and I was very happy to read this message - until I
released it was 3 months old. Has this moratorium paid off? Is there
documentation and a plugin list for new users? I hope so!
Here's my state:
Hi Eric,
I left you a message in TiddlyTools regarding the book project. Not sure if
you've seen it.
Apologies to the group for this unrelated message, just I don't have Eric's
email to communicate to him directly.
Alfonso Arciniega
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 11:42:29 PM UTC-7, Eric
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 11:22:54 PM UTC-8, Hiru Yoru wrote:
That's a great idea! Thank you for the information! My idea was more for
an online wiki, though, so that everyone can add to it and help to expand
it through group effort. I know I didn't say that specifically, but that's
Speaking as someone new to TW5, I think documentation is a must. I had a
hard time starting to use TWC way back in the day because of the
unavailability of documentation. It was a struggle and I stopped bothering
with it on several occasions because of that very problem. It was only
after more
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 9:20:58 PM UTC-8, Hiru Yoru wrote:
If you document TW5 thoroughly -- not just the dense, complex
documentation targeted towards seasoned programmers, but the more easily
understood documentation that could be read by newbies -- I think TW5 will
grow on
That's a great idea! Thank you for the information! My idea was more for an
online wiki, though, so that everyone can add to it and help to expand it
through group effort. I know I didn't say that specifically, but that's
what I had in mind when I wrote that. That said, I'm sure the two aren't
My point is that TW-5 should be informed (or introduced) as (1)
collaborative works where many can edit simultaneously
While that would be very desireable, TiddlyWiki is not that.
Best wishes, Tobias.
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A big topic is clearly how we improve the contribution process for the
documentation. I have a couple of thoughts:
* We could initiate a TW5 community space on tiddlyspace along the lines of
tiddlywiki.org - it's a proven way to work. It would be good to try out
TW5's support for TiddlySpace
On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:52:09 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
On a need basis perhaps? I.e if a part can be reused, then it is
tiddlified to avoid redundance in the system. Not sure how to deal with if
there's later a wish to change it in one context but not the other. Or
maybe
Thanks everyone for their contributions. There are a bunch of good
suggestions in the thread which I'll try to pick up in the hangout on
Tuesday.
A big topic is clearly how we improve the contribution process for the
documentation. I have a couple of thoughts:
* We could initiate a TW5 community
And 5.1.5 will be released this week, right Jeremy? I am really eager to
have this update. It's got some great stuff in it. Also I am eager because
I have used some of the define newhere bits you emailed me, but they don't
seem to work in 5.1.4, only in my copy of the prerelease of 5.1.5. This
Hi Dave
And 5.1.5 will be released this week, right Jeremy?
Yes, there's nothing else big planned, but it'll still be a couple of days
before the release. In particular there's quite a few contributions
awaiting merging on github.
Best wishes
Jeremy.
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:29 PM, David
Hi everyone,
as this is my first post here, I'd like to start by thanking Jeremy and
everyone who contributes to TW, from core development to helping make
the community so engaging. I've discovered TW only a few months ago (I
was lucky to arrive just for the birth of the official TW5), and
Hi Erwan
I tried to develop these ideas and to imagine how things could work
globally in a more detailed proposition, in case that helps:
http://tw-doc-ideas.tiddlyspot.com
Terrific stuff, thank you Erwan. You've done a great job of summarising the
situation and the ideas that are floating
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:33:40 PM UTC+1, Erwan wrote:
http://tw-doc-ideas.tiddlyspot.com
Hear, hear! I particularly like that you brought up the need for different
types of documentation, and probably for different levels of expertise.
BTW, this will, to say the least, be one tough
Hi all,
With regards the Philosophy of Tiddlers
http://tiddlywiki.com/#:%5B%5BPhilosophy%20of%20Tiddlers%5D%5D.
I read some of Tobias' and Jeremy's recent conversations about sections in
Tiddlers. Although I don't understand some of the complexities, I do think
the goal of 'smallest
On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:40:32 PM UTC+1, Richard Smith wrote:
With regards to the documentation specifically then, how should we think
about, for example Introduction to Filters
http://tiddlywiki.com/#:%5B%5BIntroduction%20to%20Filters%5D%5D -
should it be split into ~13 different
On 23/11/14 17:17, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
Hi Erwan
I tried to develop these ideas and to imagine how things could work
globally in a more detailed proposition, in case that helps:
http://tw-doc-ideas.tiddlyspot.com
Terrific stuff, thank you Erwan. You've done a great job of
summarising the
Erwin,
I was hoping to restart the dedicated documentation mailing list trying out
the ideas discussed here
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/F0dnmWrOuxg
The other mailing list is
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikidocs and I put up a post
briefly discussing
On Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:37:16 AM UTC+1, Jed Carty wrote:
I think that we could try making a public tiddlywiki on tiddlyspot and
make a list of topics people want documentation for the most, then collect
explanations and examples from people and hopefully get someone who is good
at
Whenever you have an open web page, you end up with spammers trying to
create link drops.
Probably a real wiki (with authentication) or even just a special thread on
this forum would be better. I believe the better wiki systems track
history, so changes can be rolled back when something useful
Whenever you have an open web page, you end up with spammers trying to
create link drops.
Probably a real wiki (with authentication) or even just a special thread on
this forum would be better. I believe the better wiki systems track
history, so changes can be rolled back when something useful
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Whatever boosts your productivity and focus, Jeremy.
Definitely advisable slow down a little from time to time and do some
housekeeping before the next round.
If there are any new feature requests, they'll end up on the pile anyways.
Perhaps there's a way to display a sticky above the
My thoughts:
I thought the criticism was more than an bit unfair.
It's for other members of the community to contribute to efforts according
to their will and skills.
To me it signalled a requirement for the wider community of non-coders to
organise itself a bit more.
I think there are people
On Friday, November 21, 2014 1:27:26 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
Hence my proposal for a new feature moratorium. It's a simple way to
ensure that my attention stays focussed on the really important things for
the next few weeks.
OK. +1
... as long as also every other non programming
Comments:
1. Don't be too hard on yourself about choices made. All of the
possibilities - documentation, new features, bug fixes, helping people who
are stuck on a use case problem - all of it is worthwhile. And while you
are so productive as to seem omnipresent at times, you are still one
One other thing...there is a lot of helpful stuff on the hangouts, and
Mario has done an awesome job of writing annotations for them. But still,
there area almost 70 of them now, most of them two hours long. One possible
help for TiddlyWiki users might be a *topical index of the Hangouts*. Not
@Jeremy,
Could you set the sticky flag for this post for some time?
-m
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great points Dave and Mario
Alex
On 21 November 2014 14:32, David Gifford dgiff...@crcna.org wrote:
One other thing...there is a lot of helpful stuff on the hangouts, and
Mario has done an awesome job of writing annotations for them. But still,
there area almost 70 of them now, most of them
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In the heat of battle a good general knows when it time to resurvey the
situation. I believe that Tiddlywiki5's development has been going at an
accelerated pace ever since it came out of beta. As for myself, I'd the
time is right to take a deep breath and stand back a bit.
Best regards
+1
On Friday, November 21, 2014 4:55:26 PM UTC+1, Julio Peña wrote:
+1
In the heat of battle a good general knows when it time to resurvey the
situation. I believe that Tiddlywiki5's development has been going at an
accelerated pace ever since it came out of beta. As for myself, I'd the
I feel it should be expected. I am surprised you haven't decided to take at
least a month off and celebrate TW5 leaving the nest :) It allows the smoke
to clear, noobs like me to catch up on basic concepts and features. I am
sure plugin development will continue to move forward within our
I didn't like the recent post that provoked the review - it seemed very
ungrateful to me.
I use tiddlywiki every day and it has revolutionised my study and I'm just
thankful for whatever improvements I can pick up along the way.
As far as I'm concerned it's a work in progress and people should
I do agree Jon but at the same time if I understand what transpired it was
meant as constructive criticism and upon reflection Jeremy feels it is in
the best interest of the project to slow new feature development down a bit
and refocus his efforts. As a new comer I have to admit I am drowning in
My +1 shouldn't surprise much.
@everyone - Don't let my views distract you from doing what you love doing
and your personal goals with TW. I think that in non-profit / no-pay
projects the common, and necessary, denominator for anyone doing anything
is enjoyment.
:-)
On Friday, November 21,
+1
@PMario
... as long as also every other non programming and programming community
member contributes to the documentation improvement.
Hi Mario,
Is there any chance we could coordinate this effort somehow? I am happy to
lend my time to the project but I'm a bit unsure as to where to
I think that we could try making a public tiddlywiki on tiddlyspot and make
a list of topics people want documentation for the most, then collect
explanations and examples from people and hopefully get someone who is good
at technical writing or design to collect everything into a nice tiddler
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