[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread dawn ahukanna
Hi Kilucas, I'd like to use hypergraph as a visual table of contents for my TW and > indeed the primary example delivered with the hypergraph package, is > of such a ToC. But when I ask it to display my TW which is only a core > TW with some 15 or 20 extra plugins, the map is overwhelmed by the >

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread dawn ahukanna
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:29 PM, wolfgang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > Your repeated unanswered questions about hypergraph made me wonder and > play around with it again. > > > I'd like to use hypergraph as a visual table of contents for my TW and > > indeed the primary example deli

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread wolfgang
Hi Dawn, > > I already have difficulty updating the default hypergraph map. > > Sometimes the 'save XML' works - but most of the time it simply > > doesn't update. > > What browser are you using? If you have security restrictions not allowing > the browser to write to the target filesystem, this

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread wolfgang
> I made a tiddlerMap of my 3.7 MB 'Changing Themes' TiddlyWiki with > almost 1000 tiddlers. The XML grew 1.8 MB itself! Here's a screenshot: > > http://110mb.com/hypergraph_.jpg > Sorry, this is the correct link to the screenshot: http://wolfi.110mb.com/hypergraph_.jpg W. --~--~-~--~--

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread kilucas
Wolfgang I still can't see your screenshot. Is the URL correct? I have no online location to post a screenshot. Is there a way to post one as an attachment in this group - I can't see a mechanism as I type this - and are we permitted to do so? If so I can provide a screenshot. I know words are

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread wolfgang
> Wolfgang > > I still can't see your screenshot. Is the URL correct? > the url is correct, but I found out only now that this (free) host doesn't allows pictures linked from elsewhere. However, you still can copy the url and paste it into a new tab and click 'enter', and it will still show. W.

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread wolfgang
Or you can rightclick the link to the XML and choose 'save as', then rename it to tiddlerMap.xml - place it in your graphs folder - and see it as real. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" gro

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread dawn ahukanna
I had a look at the XML file and there are 6516 nodes(tiddlers) not just 18. you have a bunch of styles, templates and a large amount of tiddlers starting tagRef0... At this rate you are probably exceeding the limits of what Java can load into the browser. I'll do some investigation. Dawn. On Mon,

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-06 Thread wolfgang
Hi Dawn, > > I made a tiddlerMap of my 3.7 MB 'Changing Themes' TiddlyWiki with > > almost 1000 tiddlers. The XML grew 1.8 MB itself! > > > I had a look at the XML file and there are 6516 nodes(tiddlers) not just 18. > you have a bunch of styles, templates and a large amount of tiddlers > startin

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-09 Thread wolfgang
> ... with a structure like the date category - but by being able to > indicate the tag for the home node. Which then connects to those tags > it tags, and so on to how many levels one would like - with the > respective tiddlers branching off - is the only way and category I > could think of to ma

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-10 Thread rakugo
Hey.. Have you considered a different approach? I'm currently working on a plugin which just visualises tiddler relationships as you uncover them which I feel could work perfectly as a table of contents, plus it doesn't require any additional files - all you need to do is include the appropriate t

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-11 Thread wolfgang
Hi Jon, > and of course let me know how I can improve it.. .. thanks for having an open ear for suggestions. Though reading your own 'to do list' at http://preview.tinyurl.com/5yb26c it seems you're pretty aware what still needs to be done to make tiddlytagmindmap useful. - However, having it si

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-13 Thread rakugo
Hi Wolfgang, Thanks for all the comments. I complete aree with comments on drag, zooming and customising. All these things I am hoping to rectify with a massive code rewrite, I am hoping to package everything up to minimise the amount of installation required and also aiming to separate preference

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-13 Thread wolfgang
Thanks for your response, > Regarding displaying the whole content like hypergraph.. the big issue > here is performance. Although possible I have seen it break big > Tiddlywikis and alot here needs to be ironed out, but I agree this > would be the ideal. Showing the whole content like hypergrap

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-14 Thread wolfgang
> > ... I really like your idea of combining it with TiddlyDesktop, > but there it would be much more useful in a tiddler than in > the background, since only this tiddler would have to be > brought to the foreground, and not all others minimized for > having the overview. > Too bad TagMindMapPlu

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-14 Thread Mario
Hi everyone-working-on-this, I just wanted to cheer you all on. Ever since finding TiddlyWiki I've felt that it has real potential to help with some of the work I do and I've been especially interested in the development of these visualization techniques. Thank you for all the effort you are putt

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-14 Thread wolfgang
Hi Mario, > These animated graphs that stay synced with the content of the > tiddlywiki are great. Does anybody know if this stuff will work on a > hosted tiddlywiki at tiddlyspot? > The bad news: hypergraph needs additional sub folders for the actual application which isn't possible to upload t

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-14 Thread wolfgang
Hi Jon and all, > > these things I am hoping to rectify with a massive code rewrite, > > > Too bad TagMindMapPlugin is disabling TiddlyDesktop functionality > completely. Maybe better tackle this issue with this rewrite already? Here how far I came with TiddlyDesktop and TagMindMap installed alo

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-23 Thread rakugo
Hi Wolfgang, I've cleaned up my code significantly and made some massive changes including allowing panning/zooming of the graph, loading all nodes at start up, installation. Check it out at tiddlytagmindmap.tiddlyspot.com I'm hoping this addresses quite a few of the differences between hypergrap

[tw] Re: Hypergraph as a visual TW table of contents

2008-10-24 Thread wolfgang
Hi Jon, Geat! This has indeed been a massive rewrite and you've got much done in such a short time: > # don't combine its distribution with a custom TW > # the ability to customize its size > # vertical size customize-ability > # drag ability > # the ability to place it where and how one wants