Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
Do what you want. I feel sorry about you. You're losing the best and calling Tomcat a "crap" tells you're a loser. I've installed Tomcat in 5 minutes. - Original Message - From: "Árni Arent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:22 AM Subject: NIGHTMA

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2002-04-08 Thread Jim Urban
> I doubt I'm the only one who has complaint. We have no complaints. We have been using Tomcat for almost 2 years now. We have installed it at several client sites on several different platforms with no problems. Tomcat is just another Java application. If you understand the Java platform (CLAS

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread laurent marot - alliacom
and my grand mother did it too ! - Original Message - From: Martin Mauri To: Tomcat Users List Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE Do what you want. I feel sorry about you. You're losing the best and calling Tomcat a "crap" tells

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Sefton, Adam
... but thanks for taking the time to let us all know about your insight ... and there I was thinking this was a Tomcat "users" maillist ... if you're not "using" it, then maybe you shouldn't post here just a thought. -Original Message- From: Árni Arent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
Hahaha! No doubt, he's a loser, he must be thinking in an M$ way. - Original Message - From: "laurent marot - alliacom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:53 AM Subject: Re: NIGHT

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2002-04-08 Thread Javier A. Leyba
On 08/04/2002 at 11:48 Martin Mauri wrote: >Do what you want. I feel sorry about you. You're losing the best and >calling >Tomcat a "crap" tells you're a loser. >I've installed Tomcat in 5 minutes. > Hi Martin I could say yes and no. I think Tomcat is great, but installatin is not so easy as

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread D. Jay Newman
Personally I think that both of you should calm down. Normally I agree that a Tomcat installation is easy. *However* I spent an hour this weekend trying to install Tomcat on a Digital OpenUnix (or whatever they're calling it), and had to give up for now. I *like* Tomcat, but people new to Tomca

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > On 08/04/2002 at 11:48 Martin Mauri wrote: > > >Do what you want. I feel sorry about you. You're losing the best and > >calling > >Tomcat

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread William Shulman
I have my problems with Tomcat, but I must say it is the easiest app server to install by far (and I have used many) -will Árni Arent writes: > Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent 2 WHOLE days > trying to make it work without success. > > Endless configuration fil

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
I agree, and look. There was an opportunity some time ago to build an entire Tomcat Book about installation, configuration and problem solving about Tomcat. We needed volunteers. But guess what. Nobody lasted for more than 3 weeks. Come on, this is free software, it's impossible to pay someone for

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2002-04-08 Thread Alan Williamson
All, I would have to say that, while the installation for Apache-Tomcat was not without its problems, getting the standalone version up and running was literally minutes from downloading the software. MINUTES i tell you. That said, once i was pointed in the direction of mod_jk.so my world beca

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Stuart Stephen
indeed. -Original Message- From: Martin Mauri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 April 2002 16:02 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE Javier, supongo que hablas en castellano. Te cuento que por 1 anio hemos intentado encontrar voluntarios para el libro Tomcat Book el cual iba

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Javier A. Leyba
On 08/04/2002 at 12:01 Martin Mauri wrote: >Javier, supongo que hablas en castellano. Te cuento que por 1 anio hemos >intentado encontrar voluntarios para el libro Tomcat Book el cual iba a ser >un completo libro de instalacion, configuracion y uso de Tomcat. Pero todo >el que venia duraba 2 sema

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread todd tredeau
I completely disagree with you. I am NOT a programmer, and pretty easily figured out the BASIC installation, ie:unzip/expand and run. Is it possible this is a case of No Planning, or Not Reading the ample documentation, How many unanswered questions have you posted? I'm sorry, but this type

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Williams Mark L DLPC
Would you all quit this? It's silly to generate so much email in defense of a product we're all working with. If someone doesn't like it, so be it. BTW, our correspondent may already be off the group, which could mean that we're all just reading our own flames. Can we return to matters of substanc

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2002-04-08 Thread Karthikeyan .K.V
Tomcat Installation/Configuration is very quick and easy and can be done under 10 mins - if u understand the classpaths funda and know where to put your files. For Advanced Configs if u need to take the tweak it a little bit, a little more effort is required but that is true of any software. Ca

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2002-04-08 Thread Thomas Cherry
I agree. I gave up trying to get tomcat and apache to talk together and would have loved better documentation, and perhaps examples that work. Don't get me wrong, I love tomcat, I just want to put my vote in for better docs. on 4/8/02 10:56 AM, Javier A. Leyba at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 0

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread @Basebeans.com
Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE From: Vic Cekvenich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> === What Java application server do you like that is easy to install? WebSphere? WebLogic? Árni Arent wrote: > Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent 2 WHOLE days > trying to make it wor

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:02 PM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > I agree. I gave up trying to get tomcat and apache to talk together and > would have loved better documentation, and perhaps examples that work. > Don't get me wrong, I love tomcat, I just want to put my vot

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Javier A. Leyba
On 08/04/2002 at 13:22 Árni Arent wrote: >Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent 2 WHOLE days >trying to make it work without success. > >Endless configuration files, paths, etc. making this a impossible software >to use. I doubt I'm the only one who has complaint. > >I won'

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Jean-Luc BEAUDET
Williams Mark L DLPC a Ýcrit : > Would you all quit this? It's silly to generate so much email in defense of > a product we're all working with. If someone doesn't like it, so be it. BTW, > our correspondent may already be off the group, which could mean that we're > all just reading our own flam

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
8:31 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE Williams Mark L DLPC a Ýcrit : > Would you all quit this? It's silly to generate so much email in defense of > a product we're all working with. If someone doesn't like it, so be it. BTW, > our correspondent may already

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
Hahahaha! Yes. - Original Message - From: "Timlin, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE > Let's see. The following is a nightmare > 1. unzip tomca

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Ken Martin
Upon 4/8/02, todd tredeau saith: > I completely disagree with you. I am NOT a programmer, and pretty easily > figured out the BASIC installation, ie:unzip/expand and run. Is it > possible this is a case of No Planning, or Not Reading the ample > documentation, How many unanswered questions hav

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Harry Keller
- From: "Martin Mauri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:40 AM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > Hahahaha! Yes. > > - Original Message - > From: "Timlin, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread todd tredeau
ething needs to >be done to make tomcat more accessible, but I can't say what. > >I still can't get tomcat to use beans properly. > >Harry > >- Original Message - >From: "Martin Mauri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Tomcat Users List&quo

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
Rather then complain, since most of us here wouldn't agree with you, provide details what you did, so people here can review it. This is the proper way to approach Tomcat issues. -Original Message- From: Árni Arent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:23 AM To: [EM

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2002-04-08 Thread ce
-Original Message- From: Timlin, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:39 AM > Let's see. The following is a nightmare > 1. unzip tomcat > 2. cd $TOMCAT_HOME/bin (unix/linux) or cd %TOMCAT_HOME%\bin (windows) 3. > startup.sh (unix/linux) or startup (windows

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Árni Arent
ssage- From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 8. apríl 2002 15:08 To: Tomcat Users List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE I completely disagree with you. I am NOT a programmer, and pretty easily figured out the BASIC installation, ie:unzip/expand and run. Is it possible th

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
riginal Message- From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 8. apríl 2002 15:08 To: Tomcat Users List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE I completely disagree with you. I am NOT a programmer, and pretty easily figured out the BASIC installation, ie:unzip/expand and run. Is i

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
, 2002 9:09 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE -Original Message- From: Timlin, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:39 AM > Let's see. The following is a nightmare > 1. unzip tomcat > 2. cd $TOMCAT_HOME/bin (unix/linux)

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Jolet, John
;well I got it to serve up the jsp pages, but not quite sure how" stage. -Original Message- From: Timlin, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:31 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE Well in a Unix or Linux environment that is all you have t

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
e examples for Tomcat. -Original Message- From: Jolet, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:39 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE I think a distinction needs to be made here between "installed" and "useful"...those step

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Lecaros, Noel
ny questions, just ask it on this list. Regards, Noel Lecaros -Original Message- From: Árni Arent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:15 AM To: todd tredeau; Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE Sorry for the flame :) Just got very frustrated. I am very patie

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
List' Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE Hi Arni, Have you checked the tomcat logs in %TOMCAT_HOME%\logs\jvm.stderr (or jvm.stdout)? There also appears to be an issue with the wrapper.properties file (which you supply as a command-line parameter to jk_nt_service.exe) in that the wrapper.jvm.options is

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Micael Padraig Og mac Grene
Good move! If you find Tomcat hard, you need to stick to PHP. At 01:22 PM 4/8/02 +, you wrote: >Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent 2 WHOLE days >trying to make it work without success. > >Endless configuration files, paths, etc. making this a impossible software >t

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Micael Padraig Og mac Grene
I agree that the documentation on virtual hosts is too abstract, unless you want to really learn what you are doing, rather than merely how to do it. An example of different sample server.xml configurations would be advised. At 04:56 PM 4/8/02 +0200, you wrote: >On 08/04/2002 at 11:48 Martin M

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
Except PHP has no FUTURE. The whole world is moving to J2EE. -Original Message- From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:14 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE Good move! If you find Tomcat hard, you need to stick to

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
Getting PHP to work on an Linux System is much harder than Tomcat. -Original Message- From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:17 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE I agree that the documentation on virtual hosts is too

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote: > Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:16:55 -0700 > From: Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tomcat Users List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: R

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Jolet, John
I'd have to put them about on par, myself...although, i've gotten tomcat working on 2 linux systems, and php on one... :-) -Original Message- From: Timlin, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE Gett

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2002-04-08 Thread Fabian Sommer
I disagree with the point that installing tomcat is a nightmare, but making it work properly with apache and understanding how to deploy an own web application takes a lot of time, although you might be familiar with strange applications... And you are always stuck in problems where you don't g

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
e and MySQL were installed. I found this strange to accept, but since I had no desire to use PHP after the class I left it at that. -Original Message- From: Jolet, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:25 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE

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2002-04-08 Thread Javier A. Leyba
On 08/04/2002 at 10:37 Timlin, Bob wrote: >Well I took a PHP class and asked my instructor about this scenario. > >I installed SuSE Linux 7.2 with Apache and PHP pre-installed, then I >installed MySQL after the fact. I couldn't get PHP to see MySQL, I asked >my >instructor and he told me that I

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:46 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE On 08/04/2002 at 10:37 Timlin, Bob wrote: >Well I took a PHP class and asked my instructor about this scenario. > >I installed SuSE Linux 7.2 with Apache and PHP pre-installed, then I >installed

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
MAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet: Montag, 8. April 2002 18:31 > An: Tomcat Users List > Betreff: RE: NIGHTMARE > Well in a Unix or Linux environment that is all you have to do. In a > Windows environment that will get Tomcat running in a DOS > window. To run as an NT Service ther

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Javier A. Leyba
On 08/04/2002 at 10:55 Timlin, Bob wrote: >But with Tomcat all I have to do after I install a new database is put the >jdbc driver in the TOMCAT/lib directory. No re-compiling or re-installing >of the software. Why is PHP so difficult to add components after the fact? > Well, it depends what

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread August Detlefsen
Search the list! I posted my whole virtual hosts config for Apache 1.3/TC 4 ages ago and it works like a champ. --- Thomas Cherry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. I gave up trying to get tomcat and apache to talk together > and > would have loved better documentation, and perhaps examples

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
As usual, by the time they figure it out, it will be a fact two years deep. -Original Message- From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:22 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE While I am a big J2EE fan, I wonder if Microsoft has

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:51 PM Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE > As usual, by the time they figure it out, it will be a fact two years deep. > > -Original Message- > From: Kemp Randy-W18971 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
Well Netscape is still around and version 6.22 is damm good. Remember Netscape is part of the Sun/AOL alliance. -Original Message- From: Martin Mauri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:55 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE Anyway I have a little

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Martin Mauri
Monday, April 08, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE > Well Netscape is still around and version 6.22 is damm good. Remember > Netscape is part of the Sun/AOL alliance. > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Mauri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 08, 20

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread Timlin, Bob
rican countries. Microsoft is eyed suspiciously much more around the world then in the U.S. -Original Message- From: Martin Mauri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 1:34 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE Yes I know. I have 6.22 and it works fine, though

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-08 Thread George Shafik
Hi Arni, About three years ago we went through many web servers in the market and found Tomcat simple to install. We found it simple because we had a lot of exposure to different web servers that run in a number if different environments and an extensive background in the various programming a

RE: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-09 Thread Justin Rowles
> Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent > 2 WHOLE days trying to make it work without success. You should've asked for help sooner then, rather than wait till you were so mad all you could do was vent... that's what the list is for. That's help, not venting ;-) J. --

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2002-04-09 Thread Dominic Parry
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:34 PM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > Yes I know. I have 6.22 and it works fine, though it's pretty heavy to start > up. Once it's up is damn good. And the interface rocks! > > - Original Message - > From: &

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-09 Thread Shanmugam K
No PAIN No GAIN. Some more PAIN could possibly give you more GAIN. Árni Arent wrote: > Your software, Tomcat, is a nightmare to install. I've spent 2 WHOLE days > trying to make it work without success. > > Endless configuration files, paths, etc. making this a impossible software > to use. I do

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2002-04-09 Thread Jean-Luc BEAUDET
Dominic Parry a Ýcrit : > Ever heard of Opera? Now that works Damn well. > > Dominic Parry > B.Sc. (Computer Science, Information Systems) > B.Sc Hons Computer Science > M.Sc. I Computer Science > Rhodes University Hi ! I had yur address on Tomcat's User List. Well, do yu know if Opera is aval

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-09 Thread Dominic Parry
AIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > Dominic Parry a Ýcrit : > > > Ever heard of Opera? Now that works Damn well. > > > > Dominic Parry > > B.Sc. (Computer Science, Information Systems) > > B.Sc Hons Computer Science &

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2002-04-09 Thread Martin Mauri
And what's opera anyway?? I've never heard about that... - Original Message - From: "Dominic Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 4:58 AM Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > Ever heard of

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2002-04-09 Thread Alan Williamson
||| And what's opera anyway?? I've never heard about that... seriously? wow ... i thought those guys were doing a good job of their marketing. Its a great web browser that blows Netscape out of the water. -- To unsubscribe: For additional commands:

Re: NIGHTMARE

2002-04-09 Thread Martin Mauri
and what about IExplore? Is it affected in some way? - Original Message - From: "Alan Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: RE: NIGHTMARE > > > |

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2002-04-09 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
It's another web browser like IE or Netscape. -Original Message- From: Martin Mauri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 7:35 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE And what's opera anyway?? I've never heard about that... - Original Mes

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2002-04-09 Thread Joel Rees
> and what about IExplore? Is it affected in some way? Sarcasm. Wakes a guy up in the morning. -- To unsubscribe: For additional commands: Troubles with the list:

re: NIGHTMARE REVISITED

2002-04-08 Thread todd tredeau
; >-Original Message- >From: todd tredeau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 8. apríl 2002 15:08 >To: Tomcat Users List >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: NIGHTMARE > > >I completely disagree with you. I am NOT a programmer, and pretty easily >figured out th

RE: Nightmare with Tomcat 4.1 and SSL configuration

2003-06-04 Thread Alex Burton
my 2cents would be to use apache on the front to do the SSL... -Original Message- From: Cosmin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2003 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nightmare with Tomcat 4.1 and SSL configuration Hi there , I've just registered to this list in hop

Re: Nightmare with Tomcat 4.1 and SSL configuration

2003-06-04 Thread Bill Barker
The standalone SSL connector for 4.1.24 only works with Sun's 1.4.x JVM. There is support in the CVS for other vendors. You could try checking out the coyote_10 branch of jakarta-tomcat-connectors, and see if you have more luck. "Cosmin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]