Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread tank121
Something like this should work fine then ? http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160903 -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread tank121
Will the external drive work with any file format e.g. NTFS/fat32 ? -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-09 Thread Sakkerju
My Touch order has shipped and is now inside an UPS van on its way to my home, scheduled for today. So I am having home arrest untill delivery... Status: In transit Deliverydate: 09/04/2010 Type: Pakket Service: STANDARD Weight: 1,50 Kg -- Sakkerju Squeezebox Server-7.5.1 SSODS ***

[SlimDevices: Touch] Touch HFS+ Journaled

2010-04-09 Thread Nikhil
I'm guessing that the touch does not support plain old HFS+ (let alone the journaled variety) at this point in time. I know that linux support for Read+Write on HFS+ is not the greatest, so I understand this. Nevertheless, how hard will it be to get the Touch to mount an HFS+ Journaled USB

[SlimDevices: Touch] Funky new applications for the Touch

2010-04-09 Thread Mr_Sukebe
After waiting since ordering my Touch back in October, I'm rubbing my hands in antipication of receiving it this coming Monday. Big thumbs up for that. One thing I did notice recently were comments about the design of the Touch, implying that it was far more capable that the usual embedded

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Funky new applications for the Touch

2010-04-09 Thread erland
Mr_Sukebe;532165 Wrote: One thing I did notice recently were comments about the design of the Touch, implying that it was far more capable that the usual embedded software unit, and could accept new applications, almost like a Logitech version of an Iphone. Assuming that to be the case,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-09 Thread Kevint
MickeyG;532008 Wrote: I was wrong. I have now been straightened out. Here's what I know: - US -- Shipping pre-orders. Taking orders now even though it says Out of Stock. Start shipping new orders Monday April 12. - EU -- Pre-orders have shipped. Taking orders now even though

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-09 Thread nonnoroger
nonnoroger;531772 Wrote: Ordered on-line to Logitech UK on 03/29 - express delivery. Now shipping from the Netherlands. On schedule for delivery tomorrow, Friday 04/09. In process has changed to completed. I am at home tomorrow and really looking forward to playing my 24/96 vinyl

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch has no fixed volume setting

2010-04-09 Thread ziggyb63
Phil Leigh;532099 Wrote: +1 - categorically bit-perfect when vol=100 (DTS and HDCD prove this). The Touch doesn't need the -63dB setting for the analogue outs that was useful on the SB3). There is no additional analogue level control on the Touch. Many thanks for the info... --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch HFS+ Journaled

2010-04-09 Thread andyg
No, HFS is not supported due to the lack of RW support for journaled mode. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Funky new applications for the Touch

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti
Mr_Sukebe;532165 Wrote: Personally I'd love to see an update to the Inguz room correction software. Do the developers of the Touch believe that it has the processing power for that type of work? I'm not a developer, but I was one of the Touch beta testers and I don't see any way it could run

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-09 Thread Sakkerju
Neat looking, fine touch. Typing this while listening to Radio Paradise on my freshly arrived Touch. Patience IS a virtue :-) -- Sakkerju Squeezebox Server-7.5.1 SSODS *** Squeezebox Radio *** Squeezebox Touch *** WD TV Live Media Player Synology DS209+II - DSM 2.3-1141 - WD Caviar WD20EARS

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread Quad
R Johnson;532013 Wrote: The latest newsletter from HD Tracks promotes some new 96/24 material from the New York Philharmonic. Perhaps these recordings follow a simpler path than the SACD conversion for the Chicago Symphony... I recently bought Tenor Madness and Bags meets Wes!, two

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] US Logitech Preorder Shipped

2010-04-09 Thread ckknox
Me too! -- ckknox ckknox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32584 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77033 ___ Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] US Logitech Preorder Shipped

2010-04-09 Thread dsdreamer
Yep, mine is on its way. -- dsdreamer -- Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-09 Thread Hofstede
Mine arrived 4 hours ago and is now playing along. First impressions are good. Beautiful screen. It is now scanning an USB disk (Samsung S1) for files. Then I can try out it's internal Squeezeserver Marc -- Hofstede

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread Hofstede
I have a Samsung S1 mini 250Gb disk attached that is even smaller than a 2.5 drive and hardly consumes any power. It works great with the touch Marc -- Hofstede Hofstede's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?

2010-04-09 Thread crazyj
I've got a pre-order waiting on Amazon to get with it. It's listed as unavailable. Has anyone ordered through Amazon and actually had it ship yet? -- crazyj crazyj's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?

2010-04-09 Thread Swimmerbird123
I think you misunderstand. There is only one wireless hop - from the router to the SB3. The SB3 acts as a wireless access point. In fact, I needed to turn off the wireless connection on the computer for it to show up properly on the network map. The computer can still use the SB3's bridge for

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Pricing (Canada/International)

2010-04-09 Thread dmg
iPhone;529997 Wrote: Hello and Welcome to the Forum. I think that you are attempting to put the blame in the wrong place. It is not Logitech, they are going to sell the unit first at what the market will bear (which is called Capitalism IE good business) and the second dynamic is that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread MickeyG
Hofstede;532279 Wrote: I have a Samsung S1 mini 250Gb disk attached that is even smaller than a 2.5 drive (it has an 1.8 drive) and hardly consumes any power. It works great with the Touch Marc I tested a bunch of drives, but not one of those. I went to Fry's and bought a bunch of USB

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread MickeyG
JJZolx;532016 Wrote: Covering our ass verbiage. Logitech is good at that. Hey! I wrote that! :-( But seriously ... a lot of USB drives don't have the USB certified logo. (Note that the box for a lot of drives lately have a logo that only resembles USB but aren't USB certified) These drives

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?

2010-04-09 Thread alfista
Swimmerbird123;532292 Wrote: I think you misunderstand. There is only one wireless hop - from the router to the SB3. Yes, that I understand, but from a streaming perspective there are two wireless hops as far as I can see. First data from the server to the router (via the SB) and then from

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch Pricing (Canada/International)

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti
As bluegaspode already pointed out, this is price discrimination in segmented markets, straight out of any first-year undergraduate economics text. Demand for SBs in Canada is apparently more inelastic than in the US because of a host of factors, including size of market, cost of substitutes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?

2010-04-09 Thread andynormancx
Erm no. His server is plugged into his SB3, so from a Squeezebox point of view he actually has zero wireless hops. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM !

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?

2010-04-09 Thread bigbwb
posted in another thread Well, I ordered one through the logitech site and also have one on pre-order through Amazon. I figure I can cancel the one which ships lasthopefully I imagine from the looks of things, amazons will not ship for a while considering they pulled them off the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?

2010-04-09 Thread bigbwb
posted in another thread Well, I ordered one through the logitech site and also have one on pre-order through Amazon. I figure I can cancel the one which ships lasthopefully I imagine from the looks of things, amazons will not ship for a while considering they pulled them off the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
I have been informed by the Electronc Media Coordinator for the San Francisco Symphony that the San Francisco Symphony also sends their SACDs to HD Tracks. And this employee of the Symphony admits that HD Tracks rips their SACDs to create the digital downloads. HDtracks subcontracts with a

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread johnas
Have you contacted HD Tracks to confirm that they upsample in the examples you have given? -- johnas johnas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31930 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?

2010-04-09 Thread alfista
andynormancx;532333 Wrote: Erm no. His server is plugged into his SB3, so from a Squeezebox point of view he actually has zero wireless hops. Well, perhaps the networking of the SB3 is more competent than I give it credit for. My assumption was that both SB3 and server would have the wireless

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread cwp97
ummm...the EMM Labs ADC8 MKIV converter doesn't appear to be limited to 44.1/24 (http://www.emmlabs.com/full/adc8/flow.html) and the sampling rate for an SACD is 2.8MHz? -- cwp97 cwp97's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?

2010-04-09 Thread andynormancx
Bridges normally work by keeping a list of MAC addresses, so that they know which devices are on the local side of the bridge. No default gateway involved for devices on the same subnet. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM !

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread Quad
mortslim Wrote: HDtracks subcontracts with a studio to do the rip of the SACD’s using a machine called the EMM Labs ADC8 MKIV converter. This machine converts the SACD’s DSD format to a PCM format of 24/44.1. That is a technical restriction of the machine whose specifications are limited

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
mortslim;518719 Wrote: The studio that does the SACD conversions for HDtracks told me that it uses the EMM Labs ADC8 MKIV converter for these conversions. And HDtracks confirmed in an email to another poster in post #73 that this is indeed the machine that is used for the conversions.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
Quad;532369 Wrote: this is a misunderstanding. Maybe the subcontracting studio knows a way to preserve 24/96 while converting DSD to PCM. I mean hey, it's David Chesky from Chesky Records who owns and runs HDtracks! He sure knows how to deal with sampling rates. (That's what one hopes.)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?

2010-04-09 Thread MadCityGeoff
I, too, have had a Touch on pre-order from Amazon since last December. I'm very displeased to see the product available elsewhere and unavailable on Amazon. -- MadCityGeoff MadCityGeoff's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?

2010-04-09 Thread bigbwb
MadCityGeoff;532404 Wrote: I, too, have had a Touch on pre-order from Amazon since last December. I'm very displeased to see the product available elsewhere and unavailable on Amazon. I know amazon gives you the option to cancel the order anytime, you might want to try ordering one through

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch have Wireless Bridge Functionality?

2010-04-09 Thread bigbwb
So what is the consensus, does the Touch offer the bridge functunality like the SB3? I use this feature on my SB3 for my Directv HDDVR box and hope the touch has it too. -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Touch] SBS version and Touch

2010-04-09 Thread laimjar
Ready for ordering Touch, but have a question. My flac's are on NAS (D-Link DNS343) with SBS Version: 7.4.1 - r28947 . I do not plan to use USB drives and built-in server software. So, will Squeezebox Touch work with my current setup, or it's absolutely necessary to upgrade to 7.5.0. (on NAS)

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread johnas
I contacted HD Tracks, here's what they said: Thank you for your interest in HDtracks. All of our high resolution files are provided to us from the label and are not upsampled. We do not convert them to 44.1 and then back up to 88.2. We read the post that you provided a link for as

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread JJZolx
MickeyG;532316 Wrote: I was worried that a lot of users would have throw on a old drive and possibly run into this situation too. Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It will make sense to few

[SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 Perfromance Issue ( Solution!)

2010-04-09 Thread glenw
Hi, Posting this as it may help others enjoy their Touch I have been lucky enough to get a Touch quickly last Wednesday here in NZ. It worked without any real problems with the exception of some glitches and stutters playing SOME hi-res FLAC files, not all as some were fine. This was

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread Kevin Haskins
johnas;532442 Wrote: I contacted HD Tracks, here's what they said: Wow I bet he is going to learn to keep his mouth shut. -- Kevin Haskins Kevin Haskins's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
HDTracks now says: we have taken the San Francisco Symphony albums off of our site while we investigate. If it reads the earlier posts in this thread, it may want to also take off the albums from Resound, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra’s record label, because the same upsampling is happening

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How good is the DAC in the touch ?

2010-04-09 Thread Sturmhardt
@Phil: You´re right, I forgot the clock matters!! V-DAC: I tried using V-DAC instead of internal ONKYO PR-SC886 DAC (20bit). Definitely no difference. Speakers were active Pro-Equipment (Geithain RL901). @Dibou: Thanks for answering. VERY interesting link!!! -- Sturmhardt 2 x SBReceiver, 1

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread iPhone
JJZolx;532453 Wrote: Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It will make sense to few people that a bus-powered USB drive that works when attached to virtually any computer or laptop fails to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread cwp97
Thanks for reposting that info. So I read the instruction manual and yes, the base frequency can only be set to 44.1 for DSD, but, there is another switch listed above that in the manual that sets the sample rate. Wouldn't setting that switch to 2fs give you 88.2 (2 x the base frequency)? --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
The EMM Labs machine is a swiss army knife. It can do many different types of projects and its capabilities vary depending on the project. The issue for this discussion is DSD to PCM conversion of a ripped SACD. So the specs on other types of conversions by the same machine are not relevant.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
As cited above, the EMM manual is quite clear: “only 44.1kHz is allowed for DSD outputs and inputs” on page 2 and page 8. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread cwp97
But that “only 44.1kHz is allowed for DSD outputs and inputs” applies to the base frequency. As far as I can tell, isn't that different from the actual sampling rate? Looking at the manual: 1FS / 2FS: Selects the sample rate for PCM data. FS is the base frequency (see 44.1 / 48 switch). 2FS

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread MickeyG
JJZolx;532453 Wrote: Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It will make sense to few people that a bus-powered USB drive that works when attached to virtually any computer or laptop fails to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Help Buying 2.5 External Drive

2010-04-09 Thread MickeyG
JJZolx;532453 Wrote: Many users _will_ run into this situation. But Logitech should have thought of that during the time that the Touch was in development. It will make sense to few people that a bus-powered USB drive that works when attached to virtually any computer or laptop fails to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] How good is the DAC in the touch ?

2010-04-09 Thread badboygolf16v
sturmhardt;532474 Wrote: geithain rl901Cool speakers. -- badboygolf16v badboygolf16v's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19486 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread johnas
From HD Tracks Thank you for waiting. We have gotten in touch with Bruce and we have clarified what is going on with these conversions. Firstly, the EMM Labs converter can convert DSD to PCM at either 44.1 or 88.2. There is a switch on the front for 1fs or 2fs for this. However

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread cwp97
Thanks for contacting them and posting their reply johnas. So I guess all this talk about switches and things was irrelevant? -- cwp97 cwp97's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37412 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread johnas
I am not sure, I don't know anything about the technology. Maybe Mortslim can comment on the information HD Tracks sent me - they seem to refute what he is saying but I will leave him to comment. -- johnas johnas's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Funky new applications for the Touch

2010-04-09 Thread JohnSwenson
Traditionally third party applications were implemented as a plugin for the server and ran on the machine the server was running on. These are written in perl (the language the server is written in) The new generation devices (controller, radio and touch) add a new form called an applet that is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread Bruce B
johnas;532552 Wrote: I am not sure, I don't know anything about the technology. Maybe Mortslim can comment on the information HD Tracks sent me - they seem to refute what he is saying but I will leave him to comment. I'd like to hear his comment as well! Regards, Bruce

[SlimDevices: Touch] Apple Lossless limitations?

2010-04-09 Thread demicco
Hi everyone, I have two quick questions about the touch: When playing off a local USB drive, is seeking in ALAC files possible? When playing ALAC files off a local USB drive, do gapless tracks play as they should? Thanks! Eric -- demicco

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] SBS version and Touch

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti
Welcome to the forums. As per the Touch announcement (http://forums.slimdevices.com/announcement.php?f=34) at the top of the forum, if you want to use an SB Touch running SBS off your NAS, then yes, you do need to upgrade to 7.5.0. -- aubuti

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Amazon shipping yet?

2010-04-09 Thread p-cubed
I haven't found any. Please contribute US sites or stores indicating Touch is available NOW. -- p-cubed p-cubed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15028 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch released or not?

2010-04-09 Thread margava
Logitech URL is not working for buying the touch and there is no stock. -- margava margava's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37433 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
The issue is not what Bruce does, the issue is how Bruce's product is marketed by HDTracks. Here are the specs for the Playback Designs MPS-5 (which is the transport for the SACD): Digital outputs: XLR: AES/EBU formatted for stereo linear PCM data. If playing from disc the data on this output

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread mortslim
Bruce B;532576 Wrote: we take a direct DSD data stream from a Playback Designs MPS-5 into either a Sonoma workstation or a Pyramix workstation. Actually, this seems to suggest that rather than the analog output of the transport, the digital output is being used (which per the specs of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-04-09 Thread Bruce B
mortslim;532596 Wrote: Am I missing something here? Yes... you're missing something... and I'm trying to defend myself again and wasting time... The digital output for both the Playback Designs MPS-5 and the EMM Labs CDSD-SE... of which we both use, is a direct DSD data stream from the