Mynb:-
Choosing My Music caused it to hang - it couldn't use LMS.
LMS shows MySB but when the servers are down there's no list, obviously.
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Thanks, kids - didn't see that as I was typing the above but that's
pretty well exactly what I did.
Kind of surprising that when MySB was down SBT wouldn't connect to LMS
(which obviously couldn't see MySB either).
Hmm.
I may have solved this but don't understand why in detail.
With SBT playing a station I shut down the PC. SBT stopped playing as
expected.
I used the SBT remote to go back to Favourites and then forward to
select a station. Error message saying can't connect. I then tried to
connect to
Touch (SBT) is running with mysqueezebox.com.
It hasn't been working during the recent outages.
Figure me this:-
During the outages SBT would not access the PC and LMS.
MySB is back but SBT won't play stations until LMS is running - it used
to.
MySB says my device is disconnected.
Something
Ah, that figures.
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There was no uninstall/install just updates - to the app and iOS, which
is easily enough to send things awry!
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Yes, I have LMS and the Touch is also used to play music from the PC.
My guess is that both apps have been updated since I last used them and
needed to be connected to Mysqueezebox again (I just found out how to do
it on iPeng, too).
OK, at least it's now asking for mysqueezebox login details.
I never had set up anything for the app so what gives? Nothing in
mysqueezebox either.
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My iThing is on the network.
Gave the apps a long time to run. No good.
iPeng are in touch which is VERY good.
Orange Squeeze crashed the phone so it appears to be non supported. It
didn't see anything. But - it's running differently now - let me check.
Although the Squeezebox is used every day, it's been a long time since I
used iPeng and Orange Squeeze.
Last night I tried iPeng: disaster. It no longer finds the Touch ("Your
player can't be found") though it does find the music folder on my PC.
If I try to play a track all I get is the track
bpa wrote:
Hindsight is an exact science.
Indeed.
Just read the article in the link. Two thoughts:-
What a kerfuffle! Sheer madness to merely get USB to work.
Author also says up to an hour to ready 7k tracks to play: insane.
garym wrote:
This might help. In particular the disk partitions issue. Also, there is
tiny LMS that is running on the touch. This is different from full LMS
running on PC. Tiny LMS is what allows you to play the files on the usb.
What is the point of having a USB slot that only reads images on the
stick on a device that is a music streamer?
There is no way to access MP3 files on a USB drive - why?
Ok, there's an image folder on the stick but that is absolutely NO
excuse.
Mad
Apesbrain wrote:
Of course it does. Insert USB and switch server to Touch internal
server. May take a minute to index and you're good to go.
Nope. Already tried that with no result. However I'll try again and give
it more than the 20 minutes I did.
My suspicion is that the unit only
Thanks, guys.
We tried everything bar resetting the Touch which I really don't want to
do. It kept asking for an IP address and password which it had.
We'd already decided that fixing the wireless problem may be the answer:
the (Netgear) router is 10 - 12 years old and may be failing. The point
I've posted before about the SBT continually dropping out. Now it's also
another radio and also TV, so clearly it's a (wireless) connection
problem.
With this in mind I bought a powerline system (UK, TP-Link) but whilst a
laptop works perfectly the Touch refuses to detect a signal via
ethernet.
Thanks for all the comments, here are some answers.
SlimChances - I use the music folder and browse by artist/album.
aubuti - I use both servers but when accessing the PC I use LMS. It is
LMS that I am talking about here i.e. I rescan the music folder (which
has no dupes) yet LMS always shows
aubuti - I cleared the W7 My Music folder of all content when I started
using the SBT; it's still empty. I use a library folder with the same
name in a HDD root directory. LMS points to the My Music in the root
directory on that HD (I just checked!).
As to your other points:-
1. No shortcuts.
This is an ongoing fault.
Initially, LMS scanned the music folder OK but soon got out of sync.
Now, most folders in LMS point to to completely wrong music.
The SBT itself is useless - it cannot play what is in the music folder:
worse, it lists a whole load of spurious folders for the same
I don't use tags.
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Was listening to an album on PC music folder and it stopped after a
track and stayed stopped.
Rescanned, went back to the Touch and it says Empty in all files.
In LMS, I rescanned (full) but the LMS library is still missing hundreds
of albums that are in the music folder it's pointing to.
This
aubuti wrote:
Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but it sounds as if the scan isn't
completing successfully. Check the scanner.log -- you can see the
location, and view excerpts, under Settings Information in the LMS web
ui.
Agreed. I just checked the Touch and it says Music Folder is
Rebooted PC - exactly the same in LMS.
I also deleted a couple of folders in a folder that is listed in LMS as
the Playlists Folder (I don't use playlists) and it is STILL showing
that folder and its contents after a scan even though they no longer
exist!
BUT - it gets stranger: the Touch
garym wrote:
you never owned a 1972 chevy vega ;-)
lol!!!
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Thanks, Slate.
I also have an address from Bill at RP for a London server for the 192
Ogg stream (the Texas one continually rebuffers) but haven't tried
adding it yet. My guess is that I won't be able to.
Mardler's
I'm listening to RP at 128mp3 and have added the 128AAC and 192OV
streams to mysqueezebox favourites (but haven't listened yet).
To complete the comparisons I wanted to add the 192mp3 stream but after
clicking Add it doesn't show in the list.
Never had a problem adding stations to the list
Thanks, folks.
Interestingly, yesterday my SBT worked fine - my wife played music on
the PC and didn't think to ask if LMS was running. Obviously, it was.
Over Christmas, LMS had to be started manually every time. Odd.
I agree that probably it's only the system tray icon that isn't running
at
Under XP LMS ran automatically at boot, under W7 it doesn't.
All necessary actions taken re start menu etc.
I can't find anything helpful elsewhere so - is there a way to get LMS
running automatically at boot?
Mardler's
JohnB wrote:
It automatically starts on my W7 PC. I did nothing else but the standard
install.
Very strange because I've upgraded the OS (clean install) and put all
programs into the start menu - nothing, it only runs if launched
manually.
CaptainSpalding wrote:
Open the Logitech Media Server Control Panel not the Web Control
Go to Status then Startup Options. Set to Automatically run at
system start.
That is how it was set from the start and still is.
I think it will run if User Account Control is turned off because that
Firstly, apologies to the bright folks and also if this has been asked
before.
I've been using a SBT with LMS etc. for several months and all is fine.
I have just upgraded this PC from XP to W7. Naturally, relaunching LMS
shows a completely blank server/settings/web control. I have screen
shots
Many thanks, aubuti.
In fact, I came back here to say that I had already tried that route
after my post and so far, so good.
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MySB was back in the UK last night and seems to be faster than before.
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Yup, if you're in the UK, that's it.
BTW, US member Squeezeit has been most helpful on the thread above. I
started this one because I somewhat derailed that one.
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sroux, welcome to the unhelpful world of the Touch. Well, the people
here are great, the Touch isn't.
FWIW, Logitech have been having serious problems. I think the U.S. ones
are now OK (I recognise your name) but in the UK mysqueezebox.com is up
and down like, well, I'd better not say! I shall
There are serious problems with mysqueezebox.com in the UK since
yesterday.
Please see this thread:-
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/mysqueezebox/m-p/911844#M7663
Basically, it was down most of last night and is intermittent today.
Given that a fundamental facility of the
Now THAT, Supertramp, is very interesting.
Would you care to provide a step by step guide? E.g. m3u?
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No comments?
Anybody?
mysqueezebox.com still down.
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bpa wrote:
Until you try how can you be certain ?
You still haven't said how you know the playing stream is not using
Flash when getting the connection reset problem ?
edit:
A possible explanation to current behaviour with your current setting.
When you have no problems the http/AAC
dpa, where is the Touch log?
TIA
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How do you do that?
Anyway, I think it's using AAC and mp3 (on lower resolution streams)
with no Flash involved.
It worked fine this morning!
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My understanding of the Triode BBC Radio app is that he uses HD streams
(AAC) but maybe I'm wrong.
I'll have a look and see, if I can - one of the problems with the unit
is that it's not easy and doing the same thing twice doesn't always give
identical results.
Thanks for your input - but
Fermate wrote:
Are you using Spotify or WiMP or other play on demand services?
What about other radiostations (the one that comes as standard on the
Squeezebox menu)?
1. No.
2. Other stations e.g. those I have loaded into Favourites are OK (bar
one where I think the BBC dropped the
Fermate wrote:
Do you get a connection reset by local host ?
Sometimes. At first, always but not so now. Last night (small hours,
actually) I got the message once but some stations (Radio 4 Extra) were
just dead (but later so was the version I have on mysqueezebox). Could
this be the BBC?
Fermate wrote:
Are you also running thru a Logitech Media Server?
Yes and no. Was running the Touch on its own when this happened.
Have also had connection problems today. This is with BBC plugin, using
same stations via Favourites was OK.
Just started the Touch and it took ages to access BBC Radio via the
plugin. Hitherto it's been instant.
Anyone know what's gone wrong?
Triode?
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Fermate wrote:
Do you exerience this problem when playing Internet radio too?
Normann?
Yes, had this problem with the BBC plugin last night and this morning.
This afternoon only one station remained affected, most of those I chose
last night now work. National stations were not affected.
The SBT is an OK image viewer except that brightness is dimmed once a
slideshow is started which is silly. No amount of fiddling i.e. Auto
brightness minimum brightness changes this as the ambient light sensor
over-rides settings.
Is there a way around this?
So, I might be able to get the SB to look at my Frontier Silicon radio
page (it has just level of folders but that's enough) instead of MySB?
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Gary, yup, I follow your instructions and they make perfect sense. All I
have to do is get round to finding time amongst all the other stuff that
needs doing!
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Agree about YT mp4 quality for audio but often these are old and rare
tracks so quality isn't a factor. However, I have some clips where the
audio is excellent. It would be good to be able to listen to all of
these on a better system than a PC.
Great response, Jon, so many thanks.
I'll read it later to give it the time it (you) deserves.
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Well, this is strange!
I tried everything to no avail then (accidentally) pressed the down
button on the remote and the display went back to left justified. I am
unable to replicate the right (more correctly, middle) justification.
So far the problem hasn't returned.
...the problem is probably one of the server losing contact to MySB. -
either that or MySB going off line.
Whatever, it happened again. Both LMS and MySB are up to date with
internet station favourites. Switched off the PC and SB had no stations
in Favourites (I'd been using LMS to update Music
Forgive my ignorance but from what I've seen Favourites is for internet
radio only.
On that assumption, is it possible to organize Favourites? My R83i uses
a, Windows-like, simple tree structure to store facourite stations i.e.
UK Music, US Music, Politics, Humour etc.
SB Favourites is one huge
Very helpful and interesting.
Thanks, guys.
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Had a storm earlier and a power cut.
When SBT came back on the screen display was on the right i.r. starting
text in the middle of the screen. Previously the text was on the left.
There is also, on some stations, a station logo.
No user changes made - power went off and back on in seconds.
I have updated the My Music folder that LMS reads and rescanned - LMS
said complete.
The Music Folder is now not available and LMS says is is not available
whilst scanning - what is wrong with it?!
LMS no longer shows anything at all in Music Folder.
Thanks, Gary, will try that later.
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It seems that it is impossible to switch, on LST, between listening to
PC based music via LMS and internet radio.
The method to get from streaming music off an HD to listening to radio
is (a) turn off the server (or /PC/NAS) (b) turn off LST (c) turn LST
back on.
There's no switch for going
I'm new to LST as my last two threads show.
Setting up the LST was a nightmare of frustration repeated attempts to
get it to do what was wanted plus workrounds I discovered to make it do
simple things the software won't. Just the simple stuff, no clever
plugins or w.h.y.
(Here, I must thank
Exactly as I thought, thx.
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Is there any likelihood of LST software being modified to play mp4
audio?
It would be a boon and competitors such as SONOS already provide it.
TIA
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Useful info, Gary.
Looks like there's no point in using USB on the LST.
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Not GUI, just UI. IOW the user experience is not simple, intuitive or
helpful especially on the LST (LMS MySB are a bit better I must
admit).
The software is typical open source: developed by a bunch of geeks with
little or no top down design and no thought for useability. as a couple
of forum
All very interesting comments; I agree that poor documentation isn't
limited to Logitech.
I had looked at all the various stuff I could find, fiddled about a lot
and this, together with the support of a few forum members (garym, I
thought that was you!) I've got the thing into a much more usable
I mean *.mp4. I have loads of such files; WMP plays them, SONOS plays
them but SB (and R83i) doesn't.
They're video files as often found on You Tube and other internet
sites.
SB plays m4a fine.
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Not a clue if it works OK but here's the link:-
http://www.mp4converter.net/mp4-to-mp3-converter-win.html
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It remains a nasty product; the user interface is appalling.
However I have managed to add some favourite stations to the list - but
now need to sort it!
The fail to parse comes up if you attempt to select an internet radio
provider (yet it will play the station if selected via that provider
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