Interesting stuff guys.I have an Audionote Dac Zero,with which the touch
sounds substantially better than via it's analogue out.The analogue is
still good,and both sound better than my Arcam with the dac.
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Ali
Good stuff Ali..
what Arcam you got again?
Just trying to get a comparative feel for the Touches Analogue out
quality..
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Just the CD 63,but I also have a Marantz CD94 MKII that has had it's DAC
section removed so is just a transport,and I'd say the Touch sounds
better than it.
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cool, sounding better and better!
What arcam?
couldnt find a cd63!
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Sorry,typo,I'm doing this on my phone.It's the CD62.
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Interesting! I received my Touch last night and within 5 minutes had it
playing. It took me longer to get it out of the box than to get it
playing music!
The first thing I did was plug the Touch into my Oracle DAC1000 right
next to my Duet, synced the Touch with the Duet, level-matched them
Good stuff! Yes,I've heard a Duet via analogue out for a quick listen
and I wasn't impressed.Interesting it's very close to the Touch via
digi out.
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Out of curiosity, when you previously compared the analog out of the SB3
vs Lavry, did you conduct the test the same way as the comparison of the
Lavry vs Touch? i.e. Level matched and with the ability to -instantly-
switch between the two.
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Merlinwerks;533696 Wrote:
Out of curiosity, when you previously compared the analog out of the SB3
vs Lavry, did you conduct the test the same way as the comparison of the
Lavry vs Touch? i.e. Level matched and with the ability to -instantly-
switch between the two.
Yes.
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mlsstl
give the guy a break!
thats twice he's said it was all IMHO etc etc :)
Im sure as the days go on there will be more equally as good audio (not
audioPHILE ;)) comparisons.
Id be checking the Audiophile forums for that.
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mlsstl;533516 Wrote:
Sorry I wasn't clear. Let me try again.
1. The Lavry sounds like the Lavry whether I'm using the SB3 or the
Touch as the digital source for the DA-10.
2. As such, my original comments about the analog output of the Touch
compared to the Lavry still stand. On day 3
mlsstl;533700 Wrote:
I will reiterate that this is just my experience and other people can
and will reach different conclusions. I only compared them for the
purpose of making an equipment choice for myself. I make no
representation of scientific rigor or universal application.
Merlinwerks;533788 Wrote:
Easy guys :)
I was definitely not questioning the results, actually I'm not
surprised by them. I just wanted to confirm that both tests (SB3 vs.
Lavry and Lavry vs. Touch) were done the same way. I really believe
that if more people had the ability to instantly
me either! :)
all smilies firmly in place..
And your right, if you can directly switch between sources it's alway
better.
What surprised me a wee bit was the similar sound quality between the
sb3 and the Touch via digital out.
I think m modded beresford caiman dac is quite transport sensitive
Neither my Flickr nor Facebook picture albums can be shown by the
Touch.
My SQB Radio has no problems with it, so settings/account are fine.
I (try) use these as 'when stopped' screensaver...start
loading...error: Could not retrieve imagefile. Check player's network
connectivity
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Sakkerju
Neither my Flickr nor Facebook picture albums can be shown by the
Touch.
My SQB Radio has no problems with it, so settings/account are fine.
I (try) use these as 'when stopped' screensaver...start
loading...error: Could not retrieve imagefile. Check player's network
connectivity
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erland;533241 Wrote:
1.
Audio quality is comparable or even slightly better on the Touch
depending on what amplifier/speaker/DAC you connect it to.
SLIGHTLY better?
Im using my (well, I WAS..) SB3 connected to a Beresford Caiman Dac and
sounded sublime to me.
The touch screen and the
Gazjam;533292 Wrote:
SLIGHTLY better?
A few of the Beta testers over on the Audiophile forum reported that
the digital output on the Touch was SIGNIFICANTLY better than the
SB3...to the extent that if you were using a DAC and were choosing
between the Trasporter and the Touch..
I've
erland;533356 Wrote:
I've only tried the analogue outputs, as I've understood there might be
a bigger difference on the digital outputs as long as you feed them
into a good DAC. I don't have an external DAC and the built-in one in
my Sherwood RVD-9090 receiver isn't good enough to justify
mlsstl;533436 Wrote:
In comparing the Touch analog out to the SB3/Lavry, the difference is
extremely subtle in my book. I have to strain to hear the difference. I
am very impressed and will probably end up selling my Lavry. In
audiophile-land, the Touch has no right to sound as good as it
mlsstl;533436 Wrote:
I've used a SB3 with a Lavry DA10 DAC for the past couple of years as my
primary music source.
The Touch arrived Friday and I spent quite a bit of time the past
couple of days listening to the Touch. I level-matched the SB3/Lavry
output with the Touch and synced the
bloody hell..
I had heard the Touch sounded goodbut thats a great Dac its up
against!
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mlsstl;533436 Wrote:
...However, I'm sure others will disagree with that thinking, but that's
fine by me. When I have to strain to hear the difference between two
pieces of equipment, that's a sign for me to let go of the issue and
just enjoy the music.
And fact is, that in the end, it is
or all in the head? :)
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Gazjam;533451 Wrote:
bloody hell..
I had heard the Touch sounded goodbut thats a great Dac its up
against!
Keep in mind that is just my opinion. While I love good music played on
a fine stereo, I've never been one to chase that last fraction of
[insert buzz word here].
I would probably
Boulderguy;533028 Wrote:
The touchscreen is obvious of course. Specifically, I'm curious about
things like this -
It's in my bathroom now and I love it there because it's the only one
of my Squeezeboxes on which I really don't _have to_ use a remote -
which is what I need in a bathroom.
mdconnelly;533473 Wrote:
So... you mean you couldn't tell any difference between the Touch with
Lavry DAC versus the Touch with analog outs? (earlier you said that
the Lavry was quite an improvement when coupled with the Sb3 so I want
to make sure I understand what you mean by 'with either
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