For anyone who would like to track the status of Trisquel 9 (or even
better, would like to help), here is a list and description of
everything that needs to be done before Trisquel 9 is released.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/status-package-helpers-etiona
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> when entering what you suggest I get an error message that "autoremove"
> is an invalid option. Nothing else happens. Why?
I'm not sure. Double check that you typed everything correctly, and if
you get the same error, please copy/paste the exact error message here.
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> Marble seems to be exactly what I'm looking for.
Great, I'm glad it's working for you.
> I would like to pay you back for your help but I'm an only an old
> unprosperous IT student who is struggling to get out of digital
> illiteracy with the burden of little time and a flat learning curve.
I
> I get rectangles instead of letters.
> import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
>
> # calculating x and y
>
> plt.figure(1)
> plt.clf()
> plt.plot(x,y)
> plt.text(0.5,0.5,'Привет!')
I don't know how to use matplotlib. I was able to import it after
installing `python3-matplotlib`, but in order to
> I've had Debian installed on my Laptop before and after entering my
> LUKS password, it took an estimated 10-20 seconds or so to reach
> lightdm. With Trisquel, it's a matter of one or two seconds! That's
> absolutely nuts and I don't understand why that would be the case.
> Were any special
> Your Debian system might have been starting more services while booting,
> or one particular service was holding everything up. It's hard to say
> since it sounds like you've since erased thew Debian system.
For future reference though, after booting you can run
$ systemd-analyze blame
To
> However, I'm unsure of the best way to fix the problem. That Jami repo
> doesn't appear in /etc/apt/sources.list
What is the output of
$ ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
?
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> As far as I know, Trisquel just strips down proprietary software from
> an Ubuntu release.
>
> We should be able to identify and delete all proprietary software just
> by running a script.
>
> Then a new Trisquel version should be published within hours of an
> Ubuntu release.
>
> What am I
> However, E17 isn't a couple of years old,
> it's almost a decade old (released in 2012), so that doesn't explain it.
> It could be that Ubuntu have decided for some reason not to bother
> packaging any newer versions, but left E17 in their repos for backwards
> compatibility (people upgrading
> We have debated this before. How trisquel gets provided has to mean
> somewhere in the chain a waste of resources takes place. The adding
> and removing of non free software.
Yes we have, and I have already explained that Ubuntu does *not* add
non-free software to Debian, so there is no "adding
> It doesn't seem to be possible to use spotify etc in complete privacy.
Hell no. (See attachment)
> What could be the *most* private way to use spotify (or a similar service)?
If you want something similar to Spotify without the freedom and privacy
issues, maybe Nuclear would work for you.
> I want to have Cyrillic text on python graphs.
> but I can not do it with python 3 on Trisquel, even if I use same
> commands.
What did you try and what was the result?
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> Lite Software offers a seemingly curated, de-mystified list of
> "popular" apps and other installs.
> https://www.linuxliteos.com/manual/software.html#installsoftware
Yes, it is based on manual curation. The source code contains a hard
coded list of applications to recommend.[1] Much of it is
> my ufw is set to only allow dns http and https so wen i lunch jami it
> wont connect to the internet
I see. I'm not sure which port Jami uses, and I don't have time to look
into it right now. Maybe strypey can help, since he uses Jami, but it
might be worth asking the Jami team for help here:
> I'm not a very experienced user, and I had been trying to install Python
> 3.8 this afternoon, a process which I partially succeeded in after much
> frustration.
> There is no pip, and python-pip had no "installation candidate"
pip searches and installs software from the PyPi repository, which
> Since I have the same Wifi chipset (AR9271), I installed the latest
> updates to see. Here is the related entry in
> /var/log/apt/history.log:
Thanks for saving me the trouble of breaking my own Internet in order to
get this information. Hopefully reinstalling the previous version of
On 10/20, lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote:
> Deleting both sections of
> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and executing
> 'systemctl restart NetworkManager' does not solve any
> of the two problems (the DNS not being automatically
> configured with Ethernet, the Wifi adapter never
> connecting to
If you use the backports repository (i.e. if there are uncommented
lines containing the word "backports" in /etc/apt/sources.list), don't
upgrade to the recently backported versions of network-manager and
wpasupplicant until this issue[1] is fixed.
[1]
> Or instead of encrypting the home directory encrypt the entire drive.
> That requires using the netinstall image
IIRC, you have this backward. The netinstaller offers to encrypt the
home directory, and the graphical installer offers to encrypt the entire
disk.
> which, last I checked, has
> The solution I found: add
>nameserver 8.8.8.8
> to file /etc/resolv.conf
Does this survive a reboot?
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> Nothing unexpected: I have to choose the GVT-989C_nomap network by
> hand, the password is asked but, again, the connection is never
> established. I see no relevant difference in dmesg's output. I
> detect no relevant difference in NetworkManager's log either but maybe
> you will:
Neither do
> Given the problem with DNS, I would bet on a problem
> relating to "disabling sending hostname on DHCP
> requests".
In that case, it is the changes made to nm-setting-ip4-config.c and
nms-ifcfg-rh-writer.c that are causing the issue, which can only be
reverted by recompiling.
What happens if
> If you use the backports repository (i.e. if there are uncommented
> lines containing the word "backports" in /etc/apt/sources.list), don't
> upgrade to the recently backported versions of network-manager and
> wpasupplicant until this issue[1] is fixed.
If you have already upgraded and need to
> Is there perhaps a bug in the update of the
> network manager?
Possibly. Run
$ apt policy network manager
And see if the "Installed:" field says "1.10.6-2ubuntu1+8.0trisquel1" to
confirm that you received the update I think you received.
This is a recent change so prevent network-manager
> I understand that backporting adds a lot of work that I don't have the
> skills to volunteer for (although I'm willing to learn with some
> mentorship).
It would probably take less time for me to do it myself, but if you are
really willing to learn how to do it, I would much prefer to take the
> First problem: it seems Lightdm is not installed, but
> Synaptic says Lightdm is installed. Do you have the
> same problem?
Is lightdm-gtk-greeter installed? (Tip: you might find it faster to run
$ apt policy lightdm-gtk-greeter
than to open up and look through synaptic.)
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> There is already a package helper for ring, so you'll be modifying
> helpers/make-ring[2] with your preferred text editor.
Sorry, link [2] is wrong. (Before I saw that there was already a
package helper for ring I was going to suggest using the one for
gutenprint as a template.) Here is the
> Even the commend line doesn't provide any additional
> feedback when this happens since the output I quote is
> given before the error happens when I start typing:
>
> [quote]$ abiword
>
> ** (abiword:1622): WARNING **: Error retrieving
> accessibility bus address:
>
> Then, chaosmonk's commands will work. Well, except
> that he forgot to mention that NetworkManager must be
> restarted at the end:
> $ systemctl restart NetworkManager
Good catch, thank you.
> @chaosmonk: downgrading only NetworkManager was
> sufficient for my system, but I imagine the reason
> Hey chaosmonk, a (very) big audio software release hopefully will be out
> soon, Ardour v.6, it will have major changes in Ardour's base, do you
> think it will be possible to backport it into Trisquel 9?
Probably. I'll give it a shot once it's released.
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> After typing $ apt policy network manager, I have:
Sorry, typo:
$ sudo apt install network-manager
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>> maybe you need also need a newer kernel to support the newer
>> graphics stack?
>
> I doubt that's the problem. I'm using Jxself's linux-libre repos.
> According to uname -r, my current kernel is: 4.19.72-gnu-rt26
Sorry strypey, I wish I could be more help. The only instance I can find
of
> Thank you, but after typing sudo apt install network-manager, I have:
>
> network-manager is already the latest version
> (1.10.6-2ubuntu1+8.0trisquel1).
Did you run
$ sudo apt install network-manager
or
$ sudo apt install network-manager=1.2.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.3
?
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> In any case, after this message appeared, the workspace switcher was
> gone from the panel. But more importantly, the area that shows which
> programs are open, enabling minimization and maximization of programs
> and switching between programs, is blank. There is no way to see a
> list of the
> when i connect to my wifi router, TrisQuel communicate this, seen from
> wireshark.. it had never never happend before..
> ---
> 102019-10-25 06:20:21,169100247 127.0.0.1 127.0.1.1 DNS
> 76 Standard
> query 0xa3a6 A ntp.ubuntu.com
>
> 11
> *How much is gap btw?
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/39911/0399111848/fy201710-k.htm#s42E9BC0846355B49898FCDAAE361EC8B
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> hello @chaosmonk I find https://packages.ubuntu.com/
> I grab the file from here
Yes, for example, get lightdm-gtk-greeter from here:
https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lightdm-gtk-greeter
Click on your architecture, and download the deb. Install it with
$ sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb
or
> I got a WLAN Card which needs a Firmware that is Not included. In Startup
> etiona says that the Firmware can not ne loaded, wait and retry with no
> time Limit and CPU stucks.
What is the firmware you need? Is it free?
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> I have used gdebi, but Lightdm greeter doesn't open is config window.
So lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter are both installed, but it doesn't work?
What happens? Black screen? TTY? Does startx work? Does slim work?
> The SliM project has been abandoned (last release was 2013 and is not
> > The SliM project has been abandoned (last release was 2013 and is not
> fully compatible with systemd, including logind sessions.
>
> The version in Etiona works, even with systemd (I briefly used it until I
> got LightDM working).
GDM is in the repo too, though I haven't tested it yet.
> Is there a generic version of them on the wiki? If you want to get
> more people involved in Trisquel dev, it might help to make it very
> easy to find a list of entry level tasks like this, with links to
> detailed information on how to carry them out.
The contributing guide I linked to is the
On 10/29, equimanth...@tiscali.it wrote:
> If I open the Lightdm settings from the Lxde menu I need to type my
> password and nothing happen.
That's a separate package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings. Make sure you
have that installed too.
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> > I would appreciate being able to communicate with you on Jabber,
> > Matrix, or the fediverse if you use any of these.
>
> Jabber is usually the best way to reach me. I'll send you a message.
I sent a message to your jabber.org address. If you didn't receive it
let me know.
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> No, the Firmware isn't free, it also didnt Work with trisquel 8. I
> Never used the WLAN Card since I installed trisquel.
I don't think non-free firmware will work with Trisquel's kernel. My
understanding is that Linux-libre cannot load non-free firmware. This
is not by design, but an
> is not possible to install lightdm-gtk-greeter, the package is missing, and
also abiword is missing too...
I see, these packages have not yet been pushed to the repo.
> what if I "take" the packages from Flidas?
I would instead grab the Bionic debs from packages.ubuntu.com and install
> But I may be able to solve the problem by installing a different web
> browser, with different dependencies, or use a Firefox-based browser
> as an AppImage.
You might look into LibreWolf.[1] It's a Firefox fork which supposedly
prevents all unsolicited connections. According to their
> Perhaps a blog post could be written about a potential Trisquel Studio
> for the front page of Trisquel.info, linking to that wiki page? I
> would be happy to write the copy if Chaosmonk could give me a list of
> bullet points on what ought to be included / not included in the
> piece. Samples
> I did only run sudo apt install network-manager.
This will install the newest known version (the broken version, since
you'll need to run another "apt update" to for the package manager to be
aware of the recent version that fixes the problem). To revert to the
old version you need to run
$
> On this page,[1] you should be able to click on the link that says
> "Ubuntu 16.04 (64-bit)" or "Ubuntu 16.04 (32 bit)" (depending on your
> architecture).
In case for some reason you can't see these links (although I can see them
just fine in Icecat with JS blocked, so I can't think of a
> The Trisquel 8 repos have a version of Jami so old it's still got the
> Ring branding. It's really not helpful to have this kind of thing in
> the repos. Is it possible to backport a newer version? If not, it
> probably makes sense to just remove it from the repos
Ubuntu 16.04 (and thus
> Also, I went to the Jami download page to try to add
> their repo, so I can get a more updated version, but
> I'm a bit confused. They only have manual install
> instructions for various versions of Ubuntu, Debian,
> and Fedora
On this page,[1] you should be able to click on the link that says
> But I might have found the root of the problem: As long as I am typing
> without errors everything is fine. But as soon as I ignore any misspelled
> word and start typing the next anyway then I can't delete any letter and
> program freezes. Therefore, I disabled the on the fly spell check and
> Ubuntu Studio 19.10 has been released. Maybe backport some of these changes?
The only packages that I backport from Ubuntu Studio are
ubuntustudio-controls and ubuntustudio-menu. I backport these from the
Ubuntu Studio PPA, not from Ubuntu's repositories, so our versions
of these two packages
> Thanks for the tip. I installed that package, shut down the laptop, and
> booted up again. Sadly, the issue seems to be persisting :( Is there
> anything I need to do to activate that package or get ABrowser to use it?
Sorry, I misremembered. It was this thread[1] that led me to believe
this
> Only the Abiword version available in the repository breaks as soon as
> I want to delete any character when I type in any text.
Can you be a little more specific about how it "breaks"? Does it just
crash, or does it become glitchy in some other way?
To troubleshoot, can you please open a
> If I 'sudo apt-mark unhold network-manager', the Update Manager still
> proposes me the version 1.10.6-2ubuntu1+8.0trisquel2 of
> NetworkManager...
If you really did use "unhold", then this is the expected behavior.
Change it to "hold" in order to prevent upgrades to network-manager.
If you
> i started synaptic and searched for anything with "ntp" and uninstalled
one/all..
> packets/programs named with any-thing like ntp..
> one.. program synaptic found: ntpdate
> in this update on the 24-10-2019 there where a ntp update.
Do you did not have ntp installed, but there was a ntp
> I really meant "unhold" (no typo).I do not think it is OK to still
> have the normally proposed version of NetworkManager (well, normal for
> those who enabled flidas-backports) "break the Internet" of many
> users.
Sorry, I misunderstood you. It sounds you had already successfully
"held" the
> I've probably said this elsewhere, but with the performance of the
> Mate desktop, Trisquel-Mini is a bit redundant.
To be fair, in addition to a different desktop environment, Trisquel
Mini also has different default applications (Midori instead of
Abrowser, Abiword instead of LibreOffice
> That did it for me -- now I have a different problem
> because I need space on my hard disk, either change
> partition size or delete stuff, let's see.
$ sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt clean
might help.
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> In my understanding, I would have to change the
> repositories, is that right? In other words, and more
> basic: How /do/ I upgrade from Trisquel 7 to Trisquel 8
> without re-install?
Edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root
$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
and replace every occurance of "belenos"
> And especially, I'm looking forward to Trisquel's new software center.
I've reviewed various alternative apt frontends. The only ones that I
liked were apper and mx-package-installer, neither of which is a
suitable replacement for gnome-app-install:
apper does not distinguish between
> Then what about gnome-software? I see that gnome-software has least
> issues to fix. Just disable snap integration and fix certain
> GTK-related issues. (Maybe a few more works need to be done, such as
> removing any ambiguous "free" in the license areas.) Generally,
> purifying gnome-software
> It works just fine on Fedora 31. Just Start Typing!
The last version of Fedora that I tried was 29, I think. After a fresh
install, I launched gnome-software, and it was unable to find any
applications. I eventually found a workaround (I forget what it was),
and got applications to show up,
> Thank you very much guys, the laptop was gifted to me and doesn't have a
> Ethernet port so I'm forced to use the WiFi module in order to connect
> the device on Internet
Can you give us more information about the laptop (make/model)? That
will help us figure out what your options are as far
> Unfortunately, HP notebooks are heavily encumbered by whitelist
> restrictions. Unless this series has ath5k/9k cards approved by HP's
> firmware, it's impossible to replace the WLAN card with a free/libre
> one.
Do you have a list of which laptop manufacturers do and don't impose
whitelist
> are you guys planing to backport jami anytime soon or i just go and
> install from the .deb file
You might as well install from a .deb file. If/when Trisquel provides a
newer version than whatever you install now, the package manager will
know to upgrade.
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> i have a notebook hp (G4) with a pci wifi card who need a non-free
> software rtl8723be driver
Some Realtek WiFi cards do work without non-free firmware. A friend of
mine has an rtl8188ee, which is functional, though not always reliable,
with Trisquel. I have not tested the rtl8723be, so I
> My initial hunch is that 3-5~ubuntu1 may not be up to date with the
> latest developments that have incorporated drivers for Brother printers,
> such as the Brother HL-L 2320D
I got my Brother printer working by running "system-config-printer". It
provides a configuration wizard which searches
> One of the things I mostly miss of my old operating systems is that
> with them I could use Google Earth with its ruler that allowed me to
> measure, almost to the inch, the distance between two points of the
> images it showed.
>
> Is there any Trisquel Flidas compatible application that allows
> Is it possible to install on tablet Trisquel 8 Mini with GNURootDebian
> or similar?
What is the architecture of the device? If it is x86 then it might be
possible, but I'm don't really know. If it is ARM, then it cannot run
Trisquel 8, but may be able to run Trisquel 9 once it is released.
> cause this is about jami i will ask one more question here!
> i have installed it with the .deb but i dont know how
> to set it up with my ufw firewall
> it looks like its connecting with too many ip address
> im a bit confused about what should i withelist
> if one of u is using it and have set
> After double-check, I get the following error:
> > E: Ungültige Operation autoremove
> Literally translated, this means "invalid operation autoremove".
Hm. What if you change "apt" to "apt-get"?
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> Thank you for compiling this. I have wanted to help but I have been
> having trouble getting started. I dont't know where to begin with
> creating a package helper and havent had time to try. Apologies!
If you look at the wiki page, you'll see that some of the missing
packages specify where the
> what is the best music player and the best video player who follow the
> GPL3? vlc doesn't follow the 3°, isn't??
VLC uses GPLv2+, so it can be distributed under the terms of GPLv2 or
GPLv3. Even if it could only be distributed under the terms of GPLv2
(as is the case with Linux), it would
> So if that table is correct, how to I downgrade to 4.14, and how do I
> make sure I only get updates to that version, rather than newer kernel
> versions?
If you are using jxself's repo, run
$ sudo apt install linux-libre-4.14
which is a metapackage that always depends on the latest 4.14
> Quick questions, since I ran ...
>
> sudo apt purge linux-image-5.4.0-gnu
>
> ... on my 32-bit laptop, it seems unable to connect to the linux-libre
> repo when I apt update. Is that expected behaviour after running that
> command? Would I have been better to just use 'remove' instead of
>
> FWIW Linphone is another comms app that relies on E2EE to protect user
> privacy. The version in the 8.0 repos is 3.6.1 and seems to have a
> number of bugs when trying to add or connect to accounts on
> Linphone.org. The latest version according to Wikipedia is 4.1.1. The
> SFD lists a stable
> How can I find something to share here that might tell you why the
> kernel is panicking with 5.4.0 but not with 5.3.12?
I don't know the answer to this, but my general suggestion is that any
upgrade comes with a risk of regression, so when you upgrade it should
be for a reason. In general the
> I guys the Wifi card of my laptop works only with proprietary driver, do
> you know how to replace the Wifi card of such laptop ?
It depends on your laptop model.
With some laptops, the proprietary BIOS will refuse to boot if it
detects unauthorized hardware. If there are no BIOS
> FYI I recently found our that the Jami devs only support the most
> recent 2 Ubuntu LTS releases, so if Etiona is not released by the time
> 20.04 is released, no officially released and currently supported
> Trisquel version will be actively supported by Jami:
>
I currently use mcabber as my XMPP client. I am generally happy with
it, but it does not support OMEMO, and it does not look like it will any
time soon. Does anyone know of an XMPP client which, in order of
importance,
* supports OMEMO
* can be ergonomically navigated using only the keyboard
> Is that amarok or amarok 2?
$ amarok --version
Qt: 4.8.7
KDE Development Platform: 4.14.16
Amarok: 2.8.0
> amarok 2 has apparently been depricated and removed from Buster's
> repositories, and original amarok is not available at all from Buster,
> Stretch or Jessie or Sid. I'm running original
> Question: How to add Trisquel's desktop theme to other OSes?
On a Debian or Debian-based system, the easiest way is probably to
install Trisquel's "trisquel-gtk-theme" and "trisquel-icon-theme"
packages.
If you have gdebi installed, you should be able to open up these[1]
links[2] and be
> Can I get Compiz, with its special graphical effects for the desktop,
> on Trisquel 8?
$ sudo apt install compiz compiz-plugins
> Is there a GUI to turn on/off particular effects like there was on
> Ubuntu when I tried that OS years ago?
$ sudo apt install compizconfig-settings-manager
> Is
> I've heard good things about Clementine and Rhythmbox although for now
> I've simply been using VLC Media Player.
If you like text-based interfaces and vim-like keybindings, I recommend
cmus.
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> I've recently gotten amarok running by installing the Trinity Desktop
> Environment. Once that's installed, you can invoke amarok from within
> Trinity, or from most other desktops by running
> /opt/trinity/bin/amarokapp from a terminal.
Why would you need to install Trinity? In Trisquel at
> I replaced them with icons I don't know it that's
> affecting anything but yes they are always ordered in
> the way that the windows are opened, not the workspace
> #.
>
> so that every time I restart my computer, rhythmbox
> opens on workspace 9 and is the first workspace. So far
> so good,
> I mean, Wikipedia. Trisquel's page says "Default user
> interface: LXQt and MATE (9.0 or above)".
I just brought this up at the meeting. quidam does not recall discussing
LXDE vs LXQt. I don't know where the Wikipedia info came from, since
there's not citation. I don't think dropping LXDE is
> It states that it depends on `gtk3-engines-unico` but
> `gtk3-engines-unico` has no installation candidate.
I guess Debian doesn't have that package. You can grab it from the
Trisquel repo too.
http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/g/gtk3-engines-unico/
If you have a 64-bit system
> I have some photos in the disk, that I would like to retrieve,
> particularly photos of my then pregnant wife. It is somewhat important
> to us to get those unique photos that we store on that trisquel
> computer.
> The thing is I don't know any more, what was my password then
Do you recall
> Do you recall whether you encrypted your disk or home directories when
> installing Trisquel?
Ah. Just reread your message and saw that you were able to get into your
wife's account. This means that the disk is not encrypted, which is
good. That was my worry, since the graphical Trisquel
> You can reset your user password by chrooting using a live CD:
This is what I would suggest if the OP wanted to go back to using this
system. I am under the impression that they just want to recover data
from it, which can be achieved more easily by mounting the disk with
graphical tools.
> Ever since I installed 64bit Trisquel 8 on my Lenovo X60 laptop, I have
> been having weird issues with the display of text in ABrowser.
This is a known issue with Trisquel 8 on the X60. The workaround is to
install the xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04 package.
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> Would it be a good idea to have an interactive prompt from the package
> manager?
Perhaps when an LTS kernel reaches EOL, you could bump the version
number and replace it with a transitional package to the next LTS
kernel. For example, when 4.4 reaches EOL, turn linux-libre-4.4 into a
dummy
> I really like Trisquel. But I am annoyed that updates of important
> programs (like Libreoffice) are not available - you only have to add
> package sources. It is not that there are no current Linx versions of
> the programs - they are only made unavailable by Trisquel. If you
> don't search
> How can I safely install python-pip?
pip searches and installs software from the PyPi repository, which
contains proprietary software. According to the Free System
Distribution Guidelines:
"The system should have no repositories for nonfree software and no
specific recipes for installation of
> I installed Audacity and tried it. But I did not understand how to
> record it, so I tried to check the online manual of Audacity but the
> website required persistent security checks. Their claims:
>
> "Why do I have to complete a CAPTCHA?
>
> - Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human
> I needed it to compile Tribler and ZeroNet.
ZeroNet does not seem to actually depend on pip. The README is just
recommending that you install ZeroNet's dependencies from the PyPi
repository using pip. As long as you make sure that all of those
dependencies are free (and all of their
> I can't seem to install freemind from the terminal. It shows up in
> the Add/Remove Programs program but won't install. I'm on Trisquel
> Mini if it makes a difference.
That program has been abandoned for several years[1] and was removed
from Ubuntu and Trisquel several releases ago.
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