Pride is a sin, no matter what you are proud of. There
are no exceptions.
It is not however, a sin to judge, but there is a
condition. You have to get the board out of your own eye
first.
That is why I am giving advice, and not judging.
Terry
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From:
Glenn wrote:
THE SABBATH HAS NO MEANING TO ME.
I will just line up with Jesus Christ
on this one.
You do not line up with Jesus Christ on this one. The Sabbath had
meaning to Jesus Christ, and still does, and it had meaning to all his
apostles. To make a statement like this is to depart
Glenn wrote:
The commandments have changed.
What? Have you become a Mormon now? LOL.
Jesus taught that until heaven and earth passed away, there would be no
change in the commandments.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot
or one tittle shall in no wise
WRONG! This is just like the Church of Christ mixing works and salvation. Saturday worship has nothing to do with Christ today. TT has a secret agenda (It seems to me.) to teach a doctrine that people who refuse to wear the name of Christ are on their way to heaven. ONLY people belonging to Christ
David, your whole comments below are built upon a false foundation. The false foundation is that Saturday worship is still a law. This is a sick foundation. Jesus lived under the law (a broke it's traditions) I do not. To mix works with salvation Roman Catholicism.
You answered you own question.
Glenn wrote:
LOL It is ALWAYS A SIN TO JUDGE MOTIVES.
Jesus judged motives. Did he sin when he did this, or does he get a
free pass because he supposedly was not really subject to human
weaknesses?
John 2:24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew
all men,
John 2:25
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David,
quit taking up for Judiazers. This is a grave doctrinal error.
Quit taking up for Jews that refuse to wear the name of Christ. This
is grave doctrinal error. This is the reason I left TT and will leave
it again. I can't take much of this tommyrot. It breaks my
Glenn,
I have only given you warning that it is the Lord who weighs
your boasting, so be very careful that your boasting is not considered
arrogance to Him, who is Judge. Do you only come on TT to indulge in rebuking
those who love you? We are told in John 7:24 to judge with righteous
AN INFORMAL POLL:
Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine because
of arguments presented on truth talk by other members?
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Perry wrote:
Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their
point of view or doctrine because of arguments
presented on truth talk by other members?
Hi Perry.
I've had several views change because of TruthTalk. For example:
1) I was very ignorant of Mormonism and didn't really have an
Glenn wrote:
David, quit taking up for Judiazers.
This is a grave doctrinal error.
Quit taking up for Jews that refuse
to wear the name of Christ. This
is grave doctrinal error. This is
the reason I left TT and will leave
it again.
I think you do not understand my position
Yes, I have.
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My answer to all this mixing of works and salvation is John 3:16. Salvation by grace through faith plus nothing minus nothing. John 3:16. Of course I have heard this explained away on TT. Much talk about salvation by grace, but when all the posting is said and done, it is not what is believed.
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Glenn wrote:
David, your whole comments below are built
upon a false foundation. The false foundation
is that Saturday worship is still a law.
This is a sick foundation.
The reason this is my foundation is because Jesus taught:
Mat 5:18 For verily I say
Glenn to DaveH - Agreed, except for the grand entrance. :-)
Whether one worships on Saturday or Sunday or whenever, doesn't
concern me as much as whether one feels the need to have reverence for the Lord on a regular basis. I'm sure the way you explained your believe was meant to agitate some
Yes, I am judging right from wrong. I am not judging your motives. For example, I am judging as wrong the requirement for Saturday worship.
NOW, if I say, Izzy, the reason you want to play like you believe in Saturday worship is to have a day where you have an excuse to not do anything. You can
ROFL Times 666. You would make a good Church of Christ member.
2) When I first joined TruthTalk, I use to believe that we were saved
by faith alone, but because of discussions here on TruthTalk, I have
changed my viewpoint to see that Scripture does not teach this.
You twice wrong. I do not teach that. Saturday worship is fulfilled and no longer required. You are wrong on what I said. BUT more importantly you are wrong on what Jesus said.
Glenn teaches that keeping the Sabbath holy is no longer law. Jesus
taught that not one jot or tittle will pass from
Law is fulfilled. Study Hebrews. The veil has been torn from top to bottom.
Please explain to me what you do with his passage (Mat. 5:18)?
There is a difference in REFUSING to be called a Christian and honestly be mistaken on wearing the Divine name of Christian as was a fulfillment of prophecy.
So I guess we might agree. But we really don't because the people you are referring to REFUSE to wear the name Christian. Now, I do not
Perry,
I have changed my mind about at least a couple of things due to TT:
1) I used to believe that faith in Jesus plus nothing else = salvation. But
the intolerant, arrogant, and even hateful attitude of those with that
belief has taught me that just believing without love and obedience =
Hello all.
I'm glad to see we have some people in the
TruthTalk Email Service who are not motivated by human dogma. The
concept of grace plus nothing minus nothing is a great place to start. Grace
plus nothing minus nothing in terms of salvation is great. It's wonderful. It's
marvelous. I
Izzy, You have shown me you a hateful attitude toward those who clearly show your Saturday keeping a false lie hatched out of hell.
Perry,
I have changed my mind about at least a couple of things due to TT:
1) I used to believe that faith in Jesus plus nothing else = salvation. But
the
Izzy, is not honest with herself. He takes up for Judaizers and their "go to hell" attitude, but she gives people like me, who believe in salvation by grace through faith, plus nothing minus nothing, sharp jags.
The people who require Saturday worship get her "niceness", but if anyone disagrees
We should worship YHVH on EVERY day... not just
on the day you think Jesus was resurrected. I keep one particular day HOLY
because the commandments tell me to do so. That day begins on"Friday" at
sundown until sundown on "Saturday" night.
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From:
[EMAIL
Slade Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all.
I'm glad to see we have some people in the TruthTalk Email Service who are not motivated by human dogma. The concept of grace plus nothing minus nothing is a great place to start. Grace plus nothing minus nothing in terms of salvation is
The Bible DOES say so. Perhaps you should read
the testimony of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Daniel. When did they worship
YHVH?
The name jehovah is not his name. It's a made up
thing. There are no "J" sounds in Hebrew. (Hebrew is the language the Bible was
originally written in... not King's
Slade, You are so cool! J Izzy
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 4:02
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The
Sabbath Breaker of Numbers
We should
worship YHVH on EVERY
This is also totally cool! Thanks
Glenn! Izzy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:48
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Saving 'em in
the sand Who says hell fire doesn't
You obviously are a very sick religious bigot. I guess I need to treat you like a baby and a sinner headed to hell. The New Testament does not say so. WHO GIVES A FLIP WHAT 7TH DAY ADVENTIST SAY???
NOW LET ME ANSWER THAT. JESUS DOES AND HE CONDEMNED TO AN EVERLASTING HELL FIRE THE
I WARN YOU THAT YOU ARE DEFILING THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. YOU JUST INSULTED JEHOVAH GOD, THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE BY TEACHING "IN FOR HELL" DOCTRINE.
WHAT IS WORSE IS THAT YOU ARE TEACHING YOUR CHILDREN HOW TO DEFILE THE NAME OF JEHOVAH TOO!! YOU ARE SICK! YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE
Since when you are God, Izzy?
Michael D: Slade, one wonders if glorified bodies like Jesus' which walked through walls, will ever get tired and need to rest John says that when we see Jesus we will be like Him. Paul says that we shall be changed. One wonders what would be the need of a
Slade si cool because he is a Judaizer which people are condemned to hello fire in Galatians. But I am mean and ugly because I stand for salvation by grace through faith. You are sick too Izzy.
Slade, You are so cool! J Izzy
Izzy, you have just described below Slade who whoever the Pharisee is.
Terry, Perhaps you are being facetious, but I think you are right. But if anyone on TT thinks they have a corner on the whole truth, and being right, and totally correct doctrine, and are the only one who can read the Bible
What you are saying David, is NOT what the Bible says, but this is nothing new here on TT with the non-Christian view.
Jesus did NOT fulfill all the law. His coming to fulfill the law is
progressive. He fulfilled many parts, such as the part requiring
atonement for sin, ushering in the Kingdom of
I don't believe in David's revelations. I believe in Biblical revelation.
David, When will you finish telling us about your Sabbath revelation? Izzy
... except he repent!
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings in the Matchless
NameofYahShua!!
"And there shall in no
wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh
abomination, or maketh a lie" Revelation 21:27
Glenn wrote of Slade ...
You're the only person who is
Certainly not Iz. Christians know that a soft answer turns away wrath.
Terry
Terry, Perhaps you are being facetious, but I think you are right. But if anyone on TT thinks they have a corner on the whole truth, and being right, and totally correct doctrine, and are the only one who can read
ONLY YOU AND YOUR "KIND" OF DOCTRINE ARE RIGHT. YOU JUST VERIFIED WHAT I SAID. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES RIGHT.
JESUS HAS SPECIAL WORDS FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU. I will not rebuke you again in the name of Jehovah and in the name of Jesus the Christ. Cast not your pearls before the swine.
EVEN YOUR
I used to think 7th Day Adventists were not a cult. I have changed my beliefs on this. I now believe 7th Day Adventists are a cult. I now believe they are headed to hell fire forever and ever if they die in their 7th Day Adventists condition. I now believe they are spiritual pigs eating the filth
There is a time to give a soft answer. There is a time to rebuke. 2 Tim. 3:16-17.
How a man of God speaks to others often depends upon how worthy the receivers are to receive.
1 Cor. 4:21.
Certainly not Iz. Christians know that a soft answer turns away wrath.
Terry
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From:
Marlin Halverson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/21/2003 9:43 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Remember the Sun's
Day, to keep it holy
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