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David, I agree completely. But you
seem to err on the side of simply brushing aside the material
obedience if one wishes to have spiritual obedience. Do you
believe the shadows of something should be done away with, or
kept, while understanding the deeper
Okay, add to Terrys original
scenario the fact that the couple that realized that they were living in
adultery had actually been Christians prior to their adultery
with each other. They then each divorced their spouses because they were in
love. They now have a child between them, as
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From: Dave
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Sent: 11/5/2005 10:56:30 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Dee of Utah
"Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance." Will Durant
cd: So what does it mean who one doesn't progress in education?
Thank you Marlin -I am just getting to this as you were not on my address list and junked you-sorry.
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From: Marlin halverson
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 11/2/2005 5:26:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Campus Preaching-Kevin Deegan / David Miller?
To
[Original Message]
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Date: 11/5/2005 11:28:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Jewish traditions
CD wrote:
Are you stating that the law mentioned are not
removed but more in a static state for the church?
Very
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 11/5/2005 6:44:35 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
I will surrender by allotted time toSenator Taylor. If he has not the time to respond -- a very goodquestion, by the way -- I will
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 11/6/2005 7:29:29 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
Okay, add to Terrys original scenario the fact that the couple that realized that they were living in adultery had
They both claim to be Christians now, and
to have been Christians when they committed adultery and left their spouses for
each other because they were unhappy and decided to make each other their
spouses instead. They claim they have repented and everything is now okay
because of that
Mornin' Iz. As I see it, these two are lying to themselves. To repent
means to turn and go in another direction. When Jesus, Peter, Paul,
John and others called sinners to repentance, they were calling for a
180 turn, from sin, to Christ. From living for self, to living for
Him. These people,
Other than sackcloth and ashes, what form
should their repentance take? They have never apologized to their ex-spouses
for destroying their families, and still speak evil of them at every
opportunity. It seems like a hopeless situation, but surely God could help
them repent. If they did
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 11/6/2005 8:40:34 AM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
They both claim to be Christians now, and to have been Christians when they committed adultery and left their spouses for
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From: Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 11/6/2005 10:22:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
Mornin' Iz. As I see it, these two are lying to themselves. To repent means to turn and go in another direction. When
As I see it, there can be no forgivness without turning from the sin
that needs to be forgiven. That means that they cannot stay in that
relationship and have a relationship with the Lord. The normal
reaction here is to say "Consider the others that will be hurt," and
there is nothing wrong
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As I see it, there can be no forgivness without turning from the sin
that needs to be forgiven. That means that they cannot stay in that
relationship and have a relationship with the Lord. The normal
reaction here is to say "Consider the others that will be hurt," and
there is nothing
Please understand that one of the differences between you and I is age: I am considerably older than you. I took two years of "biblical languages" way back when(1968-1970), Dana and Mantey, Robertson and Thayer were big names back then. And much of what I writecomes from that background. It is
I was reading 1 Corinthians 7, not particularly
thinking of this topic, but I read this about
circumcision:
1 Cor. 7:18 - Is any man called being circumcised? let
him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in
uncircumcision? Let him not be circumcised.
And then verse 19 says how circumsision is
Reading Romans 21 without taking into account Paul's message in II Co 9:19-23 and his letter to the Galatians is to misapply the actions of Acts 21 and to see "patterned authority" where none exists.
Jd-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
You ignore II Co 9:19-23as the reasoning behind my comment.
JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:51:24 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Torah Jewish traditions
JD wrote: Advantageous?? Only as it kept doors of
From David Miller, we have this rather unusal course of words [ my comments will be the very last entry in this post - I have saved the best for the last, perhaps !!] :
JD wrote: "Telos" is the word translated "end" in Romans 10:4.
The word always means "end of a state [of being] or
an
- Original Message -
From: Terry Clifton
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 11/6/2005 1:01:06 PM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?]
-As I see it, there can be no forgivness without turning from the sin that needs to be forgiven. That means that they
cd: I think you are right on target and I also used David as an
example-Great minds think alike:-)
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From: Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Date: 11/6/2005 1:13:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
I was reading 1
Circumcision may be nothing Christine.You can only do it once. Adultery
on the other hand , can be, and in this case is, continual sin. Those
who live in continual sin when they know that it is wrong are not
following Christ; they are living in rebellion to His command. There is
no
Don't you think that in these verses cirumcism means jew? Why does Paul
say that one who is circumcised should not become
uncircumsized...certainly he is not talking about physical circumcism in
this instance. He may be simply saying that jews should not become non-jews
and non-jews sould
I think that you are probably right.
Terry
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
Don't you think that in these verses cirumcism means jew? Why does
Paul say that one who is circumcised should not become
uncircumsized...certainly he is not talking about physical
circumcism in
Why wasn'tKing David told to dump Bathsheba? Do we not see that the rules of marriage were developed out of cultural considerations? And who said that the "commandments" in I Co 7:19 are the 613of the old law?He just got through saying thatcircumcision is nothing one way or the other !!!Yet it is
http://www.article8.org/docs/news_events/love_won_out/conf_1029.htm
Homosexual activists terrorize Boston church during ex-Gay conference while police watch.
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I see neitherin your response.
JD
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From:
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Hey Bill - call me. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 21:17:10 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What counsel would you offer?
Why wasn'tKing David told to dump Bathsheba? Do we not see that the rules of marriage were developed
Kevin Deegan wrote:
http://www.article8.org/docs/news_events/love_won_out/conf_1029.htm
Homosexual activists terrorize Boston church
during ex-Gay conference while police watch.
Yahoo!
FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
That might work in Boston. In
DAVEH: Do you have a problem with those people publicly protesting, Kevin?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
This could happen to your church eventually,
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46406
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47185
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DAVEH: That was not my post, Kevin. The Bishop of TT was apparently
asking me (DH) a question.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Thanks DH!
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The church was never "right" based on its collective understanding of
the Message. In the First Church, the population
DH Do you believe
that the RCC had the truth but
lost it?
Where they the one true church but Apostacized?
DAVEH: I'm not sure if you wrote the above, John...or if another TTer
(Dean perhaps) wrote it. But, to respond...
No, I do not believe the RCC had the priesthood as they claimed.
DAVEH: Oooops.Now I see that it was Kevin who posted the
below questions to me. FTRI posted my reply assuming it was John's
question.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
DH Do you believe that the RCC had the truth but lost it?
Where they the one true church but Apostacized?
Dean Moore wrote:
cd: Ignorance in our language isn't a bad word or a
put down-it means that one simple doesn't know certain topics or facts.
I am ignorant about many areas of Mormon religion such as what is
Pay-lay ale? Yet I understand that to be the brother of
Dean Moore wrote:
DAVEH: My interjection did not prevent
you from continuing to discuss it with Jeff.
cd: Correct butand in our truth God gives times of
salvation and once rejection is made He may withdraw the light-for a
time or forever-
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
Did not the early apostles (mentioned in the
Bible) possess
the authority of God? Do you know of any who you are
certain had the authority as was given by the Lord who
lived after they (the Biblical apostles) died?
I think St. Martin
David Miller wrote:
DAVEH:
Do you accept that the Reformers adopted it due to their familiarity
with RCC doctrines?
There is no doubt that tradition is a powerful force, even among those
who break away from what they consider to be bad tradition.
Nevertheless, there is evidence that
I can plainly see the T - doctrine in the scriptures
DAVEH: Where do you find one substance in the Bible,
Kevin?
As with any incorrect doctrine...it is not what can be found in
Scripture that is congruent with it, but rather that which is in the
theory that is not found in Scripture
DAVEH: That seems to support my assumption that (modern day) Baptists
are Protestants, as I read it. Do you disagree, DavidM??? If so,
what baptist groups can you point to today that have not descended
from the Protestant Baptists
The word Anabaptism may be used to describe a
DAVEH: Did you not read the WIKI definition I previously provided,
Kevin? DavidM has subsequently provided this one, also from
WIKI
The word Anabaptism may be used to describe a "Protestant"
group baptizing Christians who were baptized in infancy and/or who come
to them from other
DAVEH: Seems to me that the Southern Baptists may be able to trace
their roots to the Rev Wm Screven
The Church was founded in 1682 and originally organized in Kittery,
Maine by the Rev. William Screven.
..according to...
http://www.cr.nps.gov/nr/travel/charleston/bap.htm
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