Izzy, praying, voting, and working hard is part of the solution...and most
of us do those things...exposing the truth is the other part of the
equation...and those who expose unpleasant truth are always spurned by those
who do not want to see the reality of the world. As a Christian I am sure
David, and fellow TT'rs,
This may be a good point to bring up some questions, and I hope that
other TT'rs chime in as well.
Many of the points that we discuss on TT require a tremendous amount of
research (biblical and extra-biblical) in terms of scanning, cross
referencing, and word
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Subject: RE: Re: [TruthTalk] The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 19:23:24 -0500
Perry wrote:
Salvation does not remove us from the POWER
of sin as you stated below. Our jutstification
I am also interested in hearing your answer to the second question I asked:
If he did, what does that do to the law under the new covenant?
Perry
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Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand that salvation comes
through faith, not of works, lest any man should boast (Eph 2:8,9) There
is NOTHING WE CAN DO to save ourselves. It is totally a work of our Lord and
Savior. To God be the glory for his endless mercy and grace.
Perry
From:
David, you are right. I was taught that by preachers. But after I was
taught that, I learned that it was this truth that awakened Martin Luther
and thus was one of the foundational tenets of the reformation. Sola Fide, I
believe it was called.
I subsequently learned that the pivotal verses
: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:28:47 -0800
Charles P. Locke wrote:
Hey, Glenn, you are not alone. I, too, understand that salvation comes
through faith, not of works, lest any man should boast (Eph 2:8,9)
There
is NOTHING WE CAN DO to save ourselves.
DAVEH: Perry..Does repentance have anything
AN INFORMAL POLL:
Has anyone on truthtalk ever changed their point of view or doctrine because
of arguments presented on truth talk by other members?
Perry
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Glenn wrote:
David, your whole comments below are built
upon a false foundation. The false foundation
is that Saturday worship is still a law.
This is a sick foundation.
The reason this is my foundation is because Jesus taught:
Mat 5:18 For verily I say
Great posts on the early church, TT'rs. It seems that in first century the
early Christians would evangelize during the week, and meet on the first day
of the week with other Christian believers for fellowship, and praise and
worship. It seems that to combine them into a single service, as we
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By the way, it says in Revelation, chapter 22, that they [dogs] won't be
[in heaven]. [I added the comments in brackets - cpl]
You aren't serious here are you? Surely you are pulling TT's collective leg
by suggesting that the use of dogs in Rev 22:15 refers
As Paul Simon said, You don't have to lie to me. Just give me some
tenderness beneath your honesty.
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Terry,
I'd rather be around
No, we should just ask them nicely.
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Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:15:41 -0600
Here's a question I saw on cable news: Should captured terrorists be
tortured to obtain information to
David,
By all means, please tell the group when Jim's video is available on his
website...I would like to see it, too.
When I was in graduate school, an evangelist was arrested for preaching
in the middle of campus He was standing at the edge of a prominent fountain
on campus; there was a
The mind reading site is indeed clever. But it brings up a great question
for the gtroup! How many were even a little afraid to try it, thinking that
it might have some occultic basis that God would not like? After all, it
does claim to be reading your mind! And it does use ancient pictograms!
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The mind reading site is indeed clever. But it brings up a great question
for the gtroup! How many were even a little afraid to try
Nicely put, David. Do you ever feel proud when the National Anthem is
played? Is that a bad thing?
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Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 13:13:57 -0500
Perry wrote:
Some music today is
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Who's NA sounds better, Canada's, Bill Gaither's or Jimi Hendrix'?
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Do you ever feel proud when the National Anthem is
played? Is that a bad thing
Why thank you, Marlin. All of this comes from reading a lot about hypnosis
and personal experience with it many years ago. For all I know, the thinking
about hypnosis could be quite different these days. However, I visited a few
current web sites on hypnosis, and some of the same ideas and
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Sorry, Marlin, I just do not see a hypnotist in the verses you quoted. I
see
a persuasive deceiver and a woman whose pride caused her to want to be
like
God enough
understand the big things? I think this exchange was good, even though not
on a major doctrinal point.
Have you ever explored seduction? I view it the same way.
Not that I care to discuss :-)
--Marlin
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Sorry, Marlin, I just do not see a hypnotist in the verses you quoted. I see
a persuasive deceiver and a woman whose pride caused her to want to be like
God enough to disobey His commanment not to eat the fruit.
I have never before heard an interpretation of these verses that said that
the
Please excuse my misspelling of eisegesis as isogesis.
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:45:01 +
Sorry, Marlin, I just do not see a hypnotist in the verses you quoted. I
Izzy,
About 25 years ago I developed an interest in hypnosis. I read many books on
it. I have been hypnotised and have hypnotized, and although there are some
strange aspects to it, I was not convinced that it opens one up to evil
spirits. I was not a believer at the time, so that aspect of it
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Subject: Re: Re:Re: [TruthTalk] Yes, to claim the law is not a curse is to
sin
Charles:
It was Lot, not Noah.
Terry
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Thanks. I read right over it.
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:07:44 -0700
Gen 6:9
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hope to have some of my
quilts on it.
Izzy
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Subject: RE: Re:Re: [TruthTalk] Yes, to claim the law is not a curse is to
sin
Hi
I live in Corona...if you take the 10 east out of PS, to Hwy 91, then go
about 25 miles on the 91 S (to the Interstate 15 intersection) you are in
Corona. I am 35 minutes from Newport Beach.
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Can someone refer me to the verse that tells about Noah walking with God? I
remember that Adam did, and Enoch did, but I don't remember reading that
Noah did.
Perry
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Wasn't that Lot that got drunk and slept with his daughters? Didn't Noah
just expose his nakedness? I need a scripture reference for when did Noah
get drunk and sleep with his offspring please.
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w/o gettin' my hide switched, may i ask: which side of the deluge did
this come from?
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the Noahide
God's instructions to Christians are in the Holy Bible. If it is
not
there, I would advise you to fergedaboudit.
Terry
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Glen,
Glad you dropped by. Please come back when you can stay longer.
Perry
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Just a clarification from Glenn
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:41:59 EST
1. I am not a prophet, the son of a prophet, nor
Izzy, JS is a reference from a long time ago, to Joseph Smith, founder and
non-prophet of the Mormon Church.
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Who
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Hi, Izzy.
Hank Hanegraaf, aka the Bible Answer Man, and president of the
Christian Research Insitute (CRI), has published an article in The
Christian Research
Hi, Izzy.
Hank Hanegraaf, aka the Bible Answer Man, and president of the
Christian Research Insitute (CRI), has published an article in The
Christian Research Journal that debunks it. In fact, I have heard that if
the same ELS (equidistant letter spacing) sequences that are used on the
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Perry wrote:
So far I do not have a continuous historical track
for any single name. Their name seems to change
throughout that period
Two books that track the history of Christianity through non-institutional
groups are, The Pilgrim Church by E.H.
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Subject: [TruthTalk] Eastern Orhtodox Paradigm. WAS: Is the Bible
Complete?--Part 1
DavidM,
It is interesting that you should mention eastern orthodoxy.
It is a long story that began in 1981 (which
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David Miller wrote:
What exactly does that mean to you, that the
delivery of the gospel was complete?
Perry wrote:
Christ made one sacrice and was resurrected once,
the apostles reported on it with eyewitness accounts,
set up churches, and wrote letters
TT,
Is the Lord's prayer, as taught to the Apostles by Jesus, original, or not?
That is, did Jesus create this prayer, or did he get it from somewhere else?
Many hold that it is original. However, in the Luke version (Luke 11:1), one
the Apostles says, Lord, teach us to pray, as John also
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DAVEH: Does Protestant theology suggest prophets are no longer needed
since Canon is closed?
I am not sure if there is an official protestant view, but I think it is
safe to say yes since they don't recognize any authority but the Bible. Sola
Scriptura.
]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Law
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:48:23 -0800
Charles P. Locke wrote:
The point I was trying to make is that when I bring up controversial
issues
about LDS docrtrine, you often give a cute witticism, and thus avoid
a
serious response.
DAVEH: I do
...it is an open forum.
Charles P. Locke wrote:
DavidM wrote:
What you say above has certainly been a growing traditional perspective
since the fifteenth century, but it does not appear that the Scriptures
themselves either establish a canon, nor indicate any closure to it.
Would
you agree?
I
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Charles P. Locke wrote:
Charles P. Locke wrote:
DAvidH, Thanks for your reply. Concerning your responses to my LDS
concerns,
they are full of cute witticisms and side-steps. You are clever.
DAVEH: Hmmm...am I to assume
,
or Netscape to retreive his mail, which removes it from the pop3 server when
it is retreived and stores it on his personal computer.
Yet further revelation from Perry G.
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Hi, David. Not being trained in Biblical exegesis, and not being a biblical
or greek or hebrew scholar, it takes me a lot of time to respond to your
very deeply thought out posts. Sometimes I just don't have the energy or
time to do it, thus my lack of response to your ealier questions. I do
Actually, I read an aticle about Mother Teresa, and her life has evidently
not been one of strong faith. Although she was VERY compassionate, and
didicated her life to the unfortunate, her spiritual life appears to have
been very shakey and filled with doubt.
From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL
of
the trash out of our house.
Perry
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Law
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:14:36 -0800
Charles P. Locke wrote:
DavidH,
I am in no rush...I can wait for your response.
No, I did
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Izzy,
I searched and searched and cannot find the original article. It was
one
I clicked on from either WND, newsmax, aol or yahoo
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Law
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 21:13:01 -0800
Charles P. Locke wrote:
DAvidH, Thanks for your reply. Concerning your responses to my LDS
concerns,
they are full of cute
DavidH,
I am in no rush...I can wait for your response.
No, I did not see the History Channel special on the Bible. I would like
to have watched it, but do not get the HIstory Channel. May I assume you
watched it? Do you think it was, or at least made an attempt to be accurate,
or was it
more than once. I'm sure I'm not
unusual for that! Sure you don't want to define your meaning again? Izzy
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law
I don't think I can change the meaning of a word because one person
claims
to have had a revelation.
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Izzy, I was waiting for you to ask that or a similar question. Thank
you.
Of course the HS has given me information. He has convicted me of my
sin. He
has shown me my need
does.
Izzy
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Law
Izzy, please stick with me and read my entire post.
I do not believe that Joseph
Terry,
Somebody already did that...back in 1830 (VBG).
Perry
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Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:18:33 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
To DaveH:
There is no need for God to reveal
The sense in which I am using revelation is information that comes to an
individual by divine or supernatural means. A supernatural revealing of
information.
Perry
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Date: Thu,
Does anyone use followers of the way? I kind of like that name for those
who believe in and follow Christ. I am the way, the truth, and the life.
Jn 14:6
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Subject: [TruthTalk] The term Christian
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Crucial Doctrines
David,
Since you became a believer, have you sinned?
You said If you are still a sinner, then Jesus did not save you from
sin. Perhaps
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