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Why not just keep the list up w/o one?
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bet we'd all be quick to jump right back on the TT battle-wagon!
May God Bless You All..!!!
Cheerio.Dave Hansen
David Miller wrote:
As the week winds down, I will not be enforcing any rules on
TruthTalk. If any of you have felt muzzled by the no ad homine
be too difficult for a God like this and how can the
feeble efforts of man explain
Him?
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:57:56 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Conor: Might we hear from you on this? Frame this in whatever fashion suits
you.
Lance
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DAVEH: I would think anybody who understands that the argument of
using
a burning bush as evidence to prove that God is capable of creating
an
*unquenchable fire* is a bit weak if that *unquenchable fire*
(burning
bush) ha
CREATORS of this planet
Why is Adam a creator of Earth?
Why are you to follow adam to become a God?
ELohim
Jehovah
Michael/Adam
Why is Adam a Grandson?
Great Granpa, Granpa and Grandson*
(Father Son and ADAM/Michael)
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e - what would be too difficult for a God like this and how can the
feeble efforts of man explain
Him?
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Conor: Might we hear from you on this? Frame this in whatever fashion suits
you.
Holy Ghost
Great Granpa, Granpa and Grandson
(Father Son and ADAM/Michael)
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How
do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE?
DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it using
the Trinity?
DAVEH:
he facts straight!
http://www.mormonismi.info/jamesdavid/negative.htm
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To avoid
WHAT?
DAVEH: Contention perhaps, such as is commonly found here?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
faith Trinity!
Dave Hansen wrote:
How do you get Father PLUS Son PLUS Holy Ghost EQUALS ONE?
DAVEH: I forgot to ask, Kevin.Would you please explain it
using
the Trinity?
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If you do not believe that God is expressesed as a Trinity
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do have a hard time understanding how you have THREE gods but you tell
me you really have one.
DAVEH: I don't know if you read my post
DAVEH: Another typo, Kevin? Were you intending to send a subtle
message to the Bishop
GRIDDLE me that, Matman!
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watched a half hour of Carl Baugh's TBN (Thursday nights) program about
science and the Bible. How do you folks perceive him?
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truth of something, yet one know that it is true if the HS has
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Do I know LDS theology as well as you do?
Or is Lance putting words in your mouth?
I seem to remember you saying quite the opposite!
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Conor: Might we hear from you on this? Frame this in whatever fashion suits
you.
Lance
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Do YOU know of anyone who has read that
new biography on Joseph Smith? 'Joseph Smith - Rough Stone Rolling
DAVEH: I'm not aware of anybody locally who has read it. I belong to
Mormon-Library, and several members have it, but as yet none have
posted a personal review. Several reviews have be
I guess the LDS organization has not restored the church then, eh? You
are
not doing what the early church did. :-)
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God?
Father
Son
Holy Ghost
Father
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burning trash pit of Jerusalem to reflect how one who does not go to
heaven will feel. Posting the below passages from other sources
reaffirms the same conclusion.
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Then according to your own book you have been decieved
by the Devil into thinking there is No liter
2006 07:18:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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the kingdom of God, or to be cast out
because of that djustice of
which I have spoken.
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Hadn't thought about it, Kevin. Post a passage and let's examine it.
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Is it figurative in the BoM too?
ou to
contribute. Don't let criticism (on this forum) effect your sense
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that have been a typo, G..perhaps you meant.. mirth
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What pray tell is an EVangelical prior to 1900??
DAVEH: HmmIs this a test? If so, I should think the
answer is simple...PreVangelical.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
LOL That is FUNNY!
What pray tell is an EVangelical prior to 1900??
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know Bob Dylan
to some degree (didn't you say he's got one of your leather jackets?);
perhaps write, through
his internet site, and ask him to check out the TT archives for a ©
violation
(& let us know what
he says:)]
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:24:38
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Are you saying I am thoughtLESS?
DAVEH: Lance is probably thinking less than you think, Kevin! ;-)
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Are you saying I am thoughtLESS?
Regular questions are intended to provoke answers
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http://www.umuc.edu/library/copy.html
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Responding to Kevin.It seemed to me that he posted the entire text
of each song.
Responding to KevinI think you are wrong about that. If you
wrote a book, the law would
DAVEH: Hadn't thought about it, Kevin. Post a passage and let's
examine it.
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Is it figurative in the BoM too?
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DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean.
To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs
an attack on your person?
Seriously; can you expound?
Dave Hanse
erefore become
your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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DAVEH: Thanx Kevin. Hmmm...what do you think Judge Dean
meant by his comment.I guess I will Get DavH off you back?
His below explanation lac
Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs
an attack on your person?
Seriously; can you expound?
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called you a Mormon-to which you do not deny-You called me a Christian
to wit I did not deny. By doing so you
come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they
which see might be made blind.
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Does
this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?
DAVEH: Naw.It's just an observation, Kevin. Why do think it is an
ad
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Sure sounded like a set up to
me? You agree DaveH?
DAVEH: Hmmm again.Sounds like
something he learned from SPers.
WHAT are you implying DH? Does this come close to a NON
BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?
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an in that rant?
cd: Hey-No
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You have no problem with the draconian rules of your leaders?
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oon as David shows of-or better yet I might as well get
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hat way Lance-I would much rather say this
now and get you to understand the principle behind my words than to be
there when God say's "depart from me". At that time it will then be too
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ad-hom?
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DAVEH: You've lost me on that, Izzy. Care to elaborate?
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it. iz
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Kevin Deegan wrote:
DH I have never been attacked by a Mormon! GO FIGURE
Does that mean I do/do not/can/can not have my own personal
martyr complex as you put it?
If you want to postulate further on your false assumptions have
at it
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Taylor wrote:
Everyone is born into this world with an
equal opportunity to choose who they will serve.
along with the opportunity to grow in wisdom
and grace - or in deceit and darkness... judyt
What do you believe separates ppl at birth
JD? judyt
The decision to seek and/or trust rests
with us. I happen to believe that God's call was to all ppl
in all generations. Abraham responded.
I expect to hear some balking from the Calvinists but this is
the understanding given to me judyt
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 06:54:33 -0800 Dave
e a masculine quality is to be a male.
Dean, are
you willing to put your proposition to the test?
cd: That is the very reason I am here Bill-if my
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1Pe 1:17
DAVEH: If that
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ized unto
repentance.
DaveH wrote:
After their proper baptism, then Paul laid his
hands upon them and conferred the Holy Ghost.
FWIW.Jesus was baptized by John, and did
not need rebaptism.
I'm not sure what this rebaptism statement is suppose to mean. What
one who falsely accuses and
then refuses to present the evidence is not tolerating sin, but rather
committing sin. Where is the fairness in that, Dean?
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DAVEH:
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remained so on some things sir.
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this even more sad is the fact that children are the ones who
benefit the most by the kind of evangelism that John approves of.
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DAVEH: Hey DavidM.what's this all about??? I've not heard of it
before. Is this for real, and if sodo you think it is worth
visiting? Have you any personal experiences with it?
http://www.theholylandexperience.com/home.html
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sent their best
debaters out but they didn't stay around long:-)
Lonnie,Kevin,Ruben,and Larry Craft had a good time with their best.
Larry C. also had James White for breakfast and didn't break a
sweat:-)
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respectful ?
He is one busy hombre, that's for sure.
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free speech has limitations. We recognize that.
DAVEH: Really! Who determines those limitat
battery, discrimination, or murder. You don't really believe in free
speech, do you.
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u are Bill.
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expected of the party who has entered into the
agreement. At least that's how I look at it. :-)
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authority of the one baptizing him was from God. Does this properly
characterize our differences about baptism from your perspective?
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urposes as well, and one is to provide a means of establishing faith
in Jesus Christ. It is a vehicle for expressing faith, the same way that an
automobile is a method of allowing gasoline or diesel to propel cars.
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. It is a vehicle for expressing faith, the same way that an
automobile is a method of allowing gasoline or diesel to propel cars.
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God and receiving the Holy Spirit by faith, even before they had been
baptized in water.
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