AMEN Dean!!
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 15, 2006 12:38
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk
s covenant ppl) of SIN,
righteousness, and judgment?
(John 16:8) Why didn't God send
Him as an antidote to "unbelief" only if this is the main
problem??
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:50:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
FYI re:Who is Victor?
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From: "Victor Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: January 07, 2006 20:35
Lance,
Here's the latest.
Victor
Theology and Science.doc
Description: MS-Word document
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From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 15, 2006 09:23
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Lance, I think David may be right about regularly posting
to TT the remarks I make to you about forwarded messages that I find
i
: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
- Original Message -----
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 8:40:26 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
Let's break the response down into two parts,
Dean. Part #1:Are you aware t
and judgment?
(John 16:8) Why didn't God send Him as
an antidote to "unbelief" only if this is the main problem??
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:50:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
- Original Message -
Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 6:49:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
Dean:I'd ask of you what I asked of DM, namely,
outline your own pos
that Lance Muir himself
would deign to write the following
about another person ..
"Should you wish to continue to pontificate from on
high then, we shall not hear matters of substance. We shall only hear you
judge us. (something you seem to do regularly)"
From:
w: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
Lance, you may not believe me, but I think Bill and I believe in the same
Jesus. I'm not sure what to talk about. What's the point? Write a
thesis
about Jesus? That's a book, man. Where would I find the time to do that?
David Mill
- Original Message -----
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/15/2006 6:46:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
Any errors in the passage, Dean? No, I know of
none. Any errors in the interpretation, Dean? YES!
Dean:IMO,
DM: You have an impressive mind which is reflected
in your ability to write and, to evaluate the writing of others. Good for you,
DM. NOW, as to that short message, pulling together the disparate
understandings, on Who Jesus Is...
Please,
Lance
and
try to catch us in our words just as the scholars and Pharisees did to
Jesus. On the other hand, the feedback you give us from how we represent
you tells us that we are reading and understanding you just fine.
David Miller.
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From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.inn
erspective.
FWIW, I find my position on this much less dangerous than John claiming an
ontological infallibility for himself. Why do you give him a pass on
that,
but wrangle over every jot and tittle of what I write?
David Miller
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From: Lance Muir
To: TruthTal
een
you differentiate between the holy and the profane.
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:58:51 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Judy:THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, JT, YOU DO BELIEVE
THE BIBLE!! DM ALSO BELIEVES THE BIBLE! Wherein there lies coincidence
bet
vidM since he appears to be a thorn in your side.
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:53:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
It fascinates me that both yourself and DM
believe that readers/participants on TT do not 'know' you. You both have no
hesit
uthTalk] Christ -
incarnate God (Judy)
This is a rather broad question, Lance. I'm not sure where to
begin. It sounds like you want me to write a book for you. Can you
narrow your question a little?
David Miller
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From:
Lance
Mui
them to live their lives as the
Jews lived theirs !! jd
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:56:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
It fascinates me that both yourself and DM believe
that readers/participants on TT do not 'know' you. You both have no hesitation
to say that you 'know' us. Why is that, Judy (DM)?
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk
ed in a moments
time-that is what the passage says -do you know an errors in this
passage?
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/14/2006 10:17:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Differences
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From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 14, 2006 17:02
Subject: OK, done working for now
paragraph in this
lecture of Victor's:
I've often said, too, that the
hardest part of any service of worship for the minister is
---
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 14, 2006 17:42
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
- Original Message
-----
From: Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@ma
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 14, 2006 14:18
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Of course it is sin and needs repenting of. (JD is actually
making the same vocabulary mistake below as DM.) But it is not immorality; in
DM:
We are all helped on hearing that which you do not
believe, David. We are not helped insofar as knowing that which you do believe
on this most important of discussions. You ask questions of Bill, John, Judy,
Gary, Lance etc. All well and good, DM. Why not do what you do so well, namely,
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From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 14, 2006 10:58
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God
(Judy)
Right! There are no degrees of Godhood.
D
From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006
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From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 14, 2006 10:32
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Dead works is not the same as immorality, which is
what I think David means by sin. IMO, that [his equating sin with immorality] is
Never fear Dean, it's based on a faulty reading of
key texts so nobody's goin' anywhere. It is kind of on a par with Albert Barnes'
reading concerning the eternality of the Son.
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From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 14,
Divine = God
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From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 14, 2006 09:59
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] love and
trinity THE HUMANITY OF CHRIST IS NOT DIVINE
Well, yes and no, DH. I am included in that circle
of Truth?"
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 07:39:32 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Judy, rightly IMO, has oft spoken of the
disconnect that may take place between theologizing and godliness.
Conversely, as illustrated in this post by Bill, a more tho
Judy, rightly IMO, has oft spoken of the disconnect
that may take place between theologizing and godliness. Conversely, as
illustrated in this post by Bill, a more thoroughgoing teaching, along with the
apprehension, of the Trinitarian Nature of God ought to issue in that which Jt
speaks of.
n 2006 14:11:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
I think I know where you are going with this,
David. I will of course agree that Jesus was exalted after his
death and resurrection, and you will say that this somehow corroborates
Judy's view
easure (ie he was given the Spirit without measure)
along with holiness; he loved righteousness and
hated evil an ordinary human would never qualify as a perfect
sacrifice without blemish.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:05:24 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
t God hath made that
same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
David
Miller.
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:09
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] C
Jan 2006 12:09:38 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy 'what
about Jesus made Him divine'.
It is not as if he were a man to whom
a special endowment were added or superimposed, 'making' h
I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy 'what about
Jesus made Him divine'. It is not as if he were a man to whom
a special endowment were added or superimposed, 'making' him God. He is
divine because he is God the Son who has existed from eternity, of
one nature with the Father and Spirit, c
.
I
am hoping that the answer is not what I think it is. Perhaps Judy has
been
right all along in her appraisal of you boys and I am the one who has been
thinking too optimistically about your salvation and ontological status in
Jesus Christ.
David Miller.
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From:
Perhaps not, David.
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 13, 2006 08:58
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Bill wrote:
... turning from sin is subsidiary to
genuine repentance.
I'm glad to hear you say this Bill. Perhaps
.org
Sent: January 13, 2006 08:28
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the
gospel?
One thing I will say about you Lance, and this is an
observation rather than ad hom.
You are a MASTER of the put down.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:10:58 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTEC
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 13, 2006 07:51
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the
gospel?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:56:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
I'm with Bill on this one. God is with Bill on
this on
: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the
gospel?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:52:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
You've provided me with an excellent
illustration, JT. Neither 'my "D" (as you now refer to her..DM's "D" als
y.org
Sent: January 13, 2006 07:36
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] What is the
gospel?
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:56:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
EVERYONE on TT, Judy, believes their
observations to be 'rooted and grounded' in
as you call it would do her
some good; sounds like she is wound pretty tight.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:01:24 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Mrs. Muir is principal of a school of some 600+
students. She teaches a course on leadership at a local
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
From: Debbie Sawczak
It was not the Holy Spirit "in"
Jesus that made him divine, if it were then all believers would be equally
divine.
Yes; this is what I
quot;total depravity" and this comes
out of a
misunderstanding of the spiritual realities
involved.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:21:05 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
From: Debbie Sawczak
Is repentance part of the Gospel? Yes, the
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 12, 2006 22:59
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
It was not the Holy Spirit "in" Jesus
that made him divine, if it were then all believers would be equally divine.
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: 'Lance Muir'
Sent: January 12, 2006 22:57
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Is repentance part of the Gospel? Yes, the NT is replete with
directives to repent. But repentance is not a means by which or thr
gospel.
Why are you saying that Bill does not believe that repentance is part of
the
gospel?
David Miller.
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From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
The int
The interloper says 'horsefeathers'!!
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 12, 2006 17:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is the gospel?
Bill wrote:
And so, to those people, "repentance" was firstly
a change of mind, a turning away from old
The interloper speaks: NO DAVID, IT DID NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. You saw
the 'yes' and, harkening back the days of olde (yes/no) it made you think
that it answered the question. (remember those days?) You wished for him
(Bill) to say YES so, you read him to say yes.
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No, Judy, this is NOT the movie I'm recommending. I
can always trust you to get it wrong. Why is that invariably the
case?
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 12, 2006 08:07
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Movie
Crash
ance-I will look at it -God willing.
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/12/2006 7:13:54 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormonism
& Freemasonry
There is, Dean, more to everyone
There is, Dean, more to everyone. For an excellent
example of this see 'Crash'. Rent it, watch it with someone and, have a
discussion. It exemplifies this point. IMO, a truly important film.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent
When you speak, David, you speak as David Miller and, NOT as the Spirit of
God. You do know that don't you? Anyone with a modicum of discernment is
able to tell who's voice they're listening to. You speak often as one
trapped in a framework that is alien to the 'all truth' to which you so
often
My Oh my but we do agree on this one, David!! In my
usualy UNoriginal fashion, let me supply you with a quotation (from Stephen
Seamands, Ministry in the Image of God):
"I think I understand why. Many of the significant
theological works on the Trinity are simply too dense and abstract to b
Do women regularly tell you that you're a really funny guy? BTW, David, my
'investment' is in Him, NOT in them.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 09:49
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
Lance wrote:
I'm cont
What 'good point' does she make, David? Might you be called upon to comment
on my 'double move of God in Christ' post, David.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 09:43
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
Well, you do make a
I'm content to express myself within the framework of those who do a better
job than I, David.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 09:21
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
Lance wrote:
Having so identified your
'Read' you..better? Recognize the landscape, David? We've been on this road
before. What, as you 'see' it, does 'lead her into ALL TRUTH actually mean?
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 09:27
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
Yikes!! You're right, I just looked in the mirror.
BTW & FWIW I always include myself in every criticism, Judy. No
kiddin'.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:54
Subject: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate
u add what is missing in
my "forethought"
Either that or answer my question. Why isn't
the "incarnation" and perichoresis
a factor int he epistles and the book of
Acts?
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:48:57 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The majority of your questions reflect a great deal
of 'absence of forethought', Judy.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:31
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
David,
I am speaking post DBR; i
OK Go to the corner for some down time,
David.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 11, 2006 08:40
Subject: [TruthTalk] Mormon
doctrine
Why not give David a rest Lance; you know as well as
me that we have
Judy, in a post moments ago, acknowledged that she cannot be but what she
is. This is how I read Judy. This is how I accept Judy. I do find her to be
REGULARLY but, UNINTENTIONALLY offensive to others. My concern would be that
such has been pointed out to her often. She adopts a 'I must be true
I read you correctly. Yours is a distinction without a difference.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 07:59
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon doctrine
Lance wrote:
DM accused me of blasphemy for simply pointing out that
you and h
David's expression 'personally, I'm not so sure that...' is one he employs
often. He does so rather than simply say 'Judy's position is my position'.
I'm not so sure that this is not the case
.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 0
Having so identified yourself, David, (more like Plato than Aristotle) you
ought to object to DM, not to me. You are, IMO, a philosophical
rationalist.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 11, 2006 07:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ -
If the 'Mormon Jesus' is comparable to Rudolph the
red nosed reindeer who 'saved' the day for Santa one dark night then belief in
such an one is pointless. DM appears to perceive little difference between his
Jesus and DH's Jesus?
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
preached the "cross"? Does this disparity not ever bother
you?
Why didn't they go about everwhere preaching
the "incarnaton?"
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:58:31 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
When you address the 'incarnati
When you address the 'incarnational folk' as such
you denigrate the Gospel, Judy. DM accused me of blasphemy for simply pointing
out that you and he see something in certain scriptures that isn't there. I
await his similar accusation of you for this continued harassment. This is both
foolish
There is but one on TT, Judy, whose wisdom is the
wisdom of Aristotle. That one would be DM. Philsophy is to DM what the church
fathers are to some others.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 10, 2006 07:49
Subject
Do you, DM, understand the 'spirit' of freemasonry and the 'spirit' of
mormonism to be one and the same 'spirit'?
- Original Message -
From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: January 10, 2006 06:44
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
Bill wrote:
If
ht. I see them as
cisterns
without water. If you can show me where I
am missing it in His Word in balance and in
context then
you will have my full attention.
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:44:52 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Indeed, Judy, y
BILL, SHE DOES NOT ADDRESS IT!!
- Original Message -
From:
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 09, 2006 08:58
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ -
incarnate God (Judy)
Great the accolades, Dean, and glory to God! I
too see the Great King a
d
God the Holy Spirit is the one appointed to
lead us through them. Not one of you so far has
refuted anything I have written by scripture
except Gary who was on the ball and noted that I
added a donkey to the scenario in Acts 9:4.
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:15:31 -0500 "Lance M
Scripture is NOT self-interpreting. No matter what
you may think, Judy, the meaning/interpretation YOU draw from Scripture is not
always the correct one. NOT you nor DM nor anyone else has been promised
otherwise.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mai
can't I also present the truth as such? Lighten up.
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/9/2006 7:09:12 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is this true?
DH
'She' Truth is a Pers
'She' Truth is a Person. That Person is
Jesus.
- Original Message -
From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 09, 2006 07:02
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is this true?
DH
- Original Message -
onvinced you that -
"Noone is able to apprehend the Truth because of the
enlightenment
and the Holy Spirit is hamstrung so that he
is unable to do what Jesus said He would do in the lives
of those who believe?"
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:37:27 -0500 "Lance Muir"
c: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 09, 2006 06:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ -
incarnate God (Judy)
Exactly what it says
Lance,
I did not change it to the plural did
I?
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:40:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wri
.
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:15:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Perhaps 'model' would've been more
appropriate.
From: Judy Taylor
Who set me up as your teacher - certainly
not me?
Whats more thi
incarnate God (Judy)
Why would I ask DM? He isn't the one running
everything by her for some exalted opinion
you are.
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:34:13 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Ask DM as you appear to respect HIS
opinion.
It was a purely pragmatic decision. It was NOT a revelation.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 08, 2006 20:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormonism &
Freemasonry(update on remnant of Jacob)
Blainerb
Studying the Word is good/commendable! I know of no
one on TT who would dissuade you from that, Judy.IFO Amen you on
that!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 09, 2006 06:22
Su
QUESTION:"the PromiseALL Truth' As it does not
say 'truth(s)' might your interpretation of this word be mistaken? What do you
believe 'all truth' to mean?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
qualifies her? Why are you so sure she knows
the Truth?
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:14:21 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Expert witness.
From: Judy Taylor
Lance you are doing it again; if Debbie Sawczak
is so interested in what
ke her ideas unvalid. Your statement was
condescending and closed-minded.-ChristineLance
Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Original Message -
From:
Debbie Sawczak
To: Lance Muir
Sent: January
I suspect not but, more importantly, is it
reflective of your 'inspired' interpretations?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 08, 2006 22:19
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ -
e essay kind of things in which she shares her impressions and they are
totally one sided.
What is one to say? "Oh that's nice?"
What is your purpose in sending her opinions about me to TT? I'm
certainly not requesting her
counsel.
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006
Perhaps 'model' would've been more
appropriate.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 08, 2006 17:07
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel
from the heretic
Who set me
Augustine/Athanasius held different
understandings regarding the trinitarian nature of God.
Please explain 'what spirit YOU are of'! Both you
and DM seem given to 'warnings/accusations/threatenings'
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.o
I note that DM identified your position with
sabellianism (God is one being, one person who takes on three different forms or
manifestations - 3rd century). He also recollected his own , unsuccessful,
attempts to address both the humanity of Christ and the Incarnation in dialogue
with you.
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: Lance Muir
Sent: January 08, 2006 08:41
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
You see? She sometimes does believe in the deity of
Christ. She goes down a trail of disagreeing with somebody because of who it is
or
EVERY REFORM MOVEMENT utilizes less than lauditory speech concerning those
not themselves part of the 'reform'.
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 07, 2006 18:47
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] FW: January 6 -
The D
Blaine: I have an audio tape, surreptitiously obtained, of the
then prophet (1978) describing the 'revelation' (political decision)
to permit non-whites into the priesthood.
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From:
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 07
- Original Message -
From: Debbie Sawczak
To: Lance Muir
Sent: January 07, 2006 15:07
Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk] Catholics and Idols (to
Dean)
"a doctoring of men"--what a great
pun!!
D
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From:
Lance
Muir
To: Debb
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From: Debbie Sawczak
To: Lance Muir
Sent: January 07, 2006 15:55
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christ as the incarnate God
[I'm quite excited because in the course of writing
the second paragraph below, I became aware of knowing something
important.]
From
il.innglory.org
Sent: January 07, 2006 11:49
Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk]
Catholics and Idols (to Dean)
- Original Message -
From:
Lance
Muir
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/7/2006 11:04:55 AM
Subject: Re: FW:
My question, Dean, is where is the RAPTURE in the
Bible? My question, Dean, is where is sinless perfection in the Bible...and
on
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From:
Dean
Moore
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 07, 2006 10:48
Subject: Re: FW: Re: [TruthTalk]
NOTHING! However, I'm prepared to say that Judy,
past, present and, future, cannot 'reconcile' herself to this understanding.
Thus my point concerning 'why'.
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From:
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: January 07, 2006 10:52
Subject:
actly does this mean to you? (in Canadianese)
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 07:04:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
JT,
I also may be mistaken but I get the idea that
you've just offered up the beginnings of a trinitarian understanding of
God'
JT,
I also may be mistaken but I get the idea that
you've just offered up the beginnings of a trinitarian understanding of God's
reconciling work in Christ by the Spirit. The Father is God. Jesus is God/Man.
The Spirit is God. God alone saves/reconciles/redeems/restores.
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