Re: [Tutor] Return to my python26.dll python.dll problems on bootup

2012-01-07 Thread Wayne Watson
that are thick with other $ products advertising. Once you get through several pages of them, you then find the download. On 1/5/2012 10:25 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Wayne Watson wrote: I have two problems upon bootup of my Win7 PC, 64-bit. Wayne, I sympathize with your problems

[Tutor] Return to my python26.dll python.dll problems on bootup

2012-01-05 Thread Wayne Watson
is Winamp. I have no idea how it got entangled with Python 2.6. 2. This appears too: Specified module could not be found:Module could not be found. Load Lib, python.dll Python works fine. What's the problem? -- Wayne

Re: [Tutor] Which libraries for Python 2.5.2 [SOLVED]

2012-01-01 Thread Wayne Watson
This problem was solved when my wife noticed that there was a second install disk for the 5 year old XP zx6000 PC she had given me, which I will now give to a friend. The problem originally was a missing dll that Python wanted. All is well now. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-26 Thread Wayne Watson
On 12/24/2011 11:24 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 24/12/11 18:58, Wayne Watson wrote: Yikes. I gave the permissions for .idlerc above. The problem is with recent-files.py. IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\Users\\Wayne\\.idlerc\\recent-files.lst' Can you open it in Notepad from

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [SOLVED]

2011-12-26 Thread Wayne Watson
to all who followed this long perplexing thread. On 12/24/2011 8:08 PM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/25/2011 06:24 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 24/12/11 18:58, Wayne Watson wrote: Yikes. I gave the permissions for .idlerc above. The problem is with recent-files.py. IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C

Re: [Tutor] Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-26 Thread Wayne Watson
: On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I'm trying to restore Python 2.5.2 on an old PC for a particular application that uses it from 4-5 years ago. According to the latest manual on it, the following should be installed. python-2.5.2.msi PIL-1.1.6

Re: [Tutor] Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-26 Thread Wayne Watson
. On 12/26/2011 11:44 AM, Wayne Watson wrote: Yes, that's a reasonable request, and I expected it, but hoped it might be apparent from what I revealed. Why? It's on another PC this happened, and getting the messages of it is not easily done, but today I have time, so soon I will post the details

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-26 Thread Wayne Watson
Regardless, the problem is solved. See my [SOLVED] msg I put up this morning (USA). It's in response to Lie Ryan. However, I have no real idea how is was caused. On 12/26/2011 1:28 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 26/12/11 18:57, Wayne Watson wrote: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-24 Thread Wayne Watson
login. On 12/23/2011 11:47 PM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/23/2011 03:20 PM, Wayne Watson wrote: Hi, I found it, but not in a place I would expect. It's under my username, Wayne. It is a folder and has three files: breakpoints.lst recent-files.lst ZZrecent-files.lst The last one has the odd ZZ

[Tutor] Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-24 Thread Wayne Watson
tkMessageBox import tkSimpleDialog from pylab import plot, xlabel, ylabel, title, show, xticks, bar I tried numpy-1.2.0 and matplotlib-0.98.3 and had the same difficulty. What are wiser choices? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-24 Thread Wayne Watson
Permissions as follows: SYSTEM: All. From Full control to write Account Unknown(S-1-5-21...): read, exec, list folder contents, Read Wayne: (normal use) All. From Full control to write Admin: All. From Full control to write WMPNetwork: Read -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-24 Thread Wayne Watson
: SYSTEM: All. From Full control to write Account Unknown(S-1-5-21...): readexec, Read Wayne: (normal use) All. From Full control to write Admin: All. From Full control to write WMPNetwork: Read -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W

[Tutor] Unable to remove three libs from XP

2011-12-23 Thread Wayne Watson
. How do I get around this problem? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet CE 1955 October 20 07:53:32.6 UT

Re: [Tutor] Unable to remove three libs from XP

2011-12-23 Thread Wayne Watson
This is a laugher. The Add/Remove screen was hiding a dialog that wanted to know if I really wanted to remove the program. Argh. On 12/23/2011 4:56 AM, Wayne Watson wrote: I have three py libs and the python program itself, 2.52, installed on an 6 year old HP Laptop. I decided to remove them

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Watson
. your IDLE issues. Who know what the cause is? Maybe Uniblue. I hope not. :-) Walter ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Wayne Watson (Watson

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Watson
On 12/21/2011 4:10 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 21/12/11 19:56, Wayne Watson wrote: To clarify: Python on Windows does **not** put itself on the System PATH when installed. So, PythonNN, where NN is the version, should never appear in PATH? Not from a standard Python installation. But other

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Watson
I just searched the registry for the dll. Nothing. I then searched for python. It found a a Python folder with a PythonCore folder. Under it are three folders: 2.5, 2.7 and 3.2. I do recall installing 3.2, but I'm pretty sure I uninstalled it. Under each of the three folders is Module.

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Watson
More. I did some Googling on IDLE not appearing. My case appears not to be unique. One site offered this as a solution in 2.6, C:\Python27python.exe \Lib\idlelib\idle.py. It issued a complaint that no such file or directory exists. It however does. A place to go that may clear this up

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Watson
9:58 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 22/12/11 16:37, Wayne Watson wrote: C:\Python27python.exe \Lib\idlelib\idle.py. It issued a complaint that no such file or directory exists. It however does. It almost certainly doesn't. The \ in front of Lib says look in the root directory of the C drive. You

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-22 Thread Wayne Watson
/2011 2:34 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 22/12/11 19:08, Wayne Watson wrote: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'C:\\Users\\Wayne\\.idlerc\\recent-files.lst' - Maybe as I pointed out a few msgs ago here the permissions shown on Properties looked a bit odd. But the problem

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Watson
uninstalled it long ago too. On 12/21/2011 2:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Wayne Watson wrote: I changed Python25 to Python27, and rebooted. I got the same two dll msgs again. I suggest you find out what applications are trying to run using Python 2.5. This is a Windows problem -- you need

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Watson
://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet CE 1955 October 20 07:53:32.6 UT

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Watson
: Wayne Watson wrote: I changed Python25 to Python27, and rebooted. I got the same two dll msgs again. I suggest you find out what applications are trying to run using Python 2.5. This is a Windows problem -- you need to get the list of programs that run at start up and inspect them for something

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Watson
try these suggestions and post back with specificity if you have further problems. HTH, Walter ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Wayne

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries [Reset]

2011-12-21 Thread Wayne Watson
. Is there something that needs to be done here, to get IDLE active? Is this where having Python27 in the path causes a problem with IDLE? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-20 Thread Wayne Watson
I changed Python25 to Python27, and rebooted. I got the same two dll msgs again. On 12/19/2011 7:33 PM, Wayne Watson wrote: It became apparent during the other part of this thread that I had not uninstalled Python 2.7, as I thought I had. As pointed out in the PATH discussion (James R

[Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Watson
-on. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet CE 1955 October 20 07:53:32.6 UT -- The Date The mystery unfolds

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Watson
On 12/19/2011 8:50 AM, James Reynolds wrote: On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Win 7, 64-bit I had Py 2.5 installed on my PC earlier this year

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Watson
python. if you get Python 2.7.2 (some more stuff) then python is now on your path. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Watson
On 12/19/2011 3:19 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Wayne Watson wrote: Win 7, 64-bit I had Py 2.5 installed on my PC earlier this year, and it began failing around June. I finally uninstalled it, and tried 2.6. Still had problems that centered around getting to IDLE. Uninstalled 2.6, and went

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Watson
, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2

Re: [Tutor] A few Python Mysteries

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne Watson
. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet CE 1955 October 20 07:53:32.6 UT -- The Date The mystery

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne Watson
On Win7, I think I'm always the administrator. Everything gets installed from my userid. ... -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39 15'

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne Watson
nterpreter set CURRDIR=%~dp0 start "IDLE" "%CURRDIR%..\..\pythonw.exe" "%CURRDIR%idle.pyw" %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9 -- Wayne Watson (W

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne Watson
this works, you can worry about running IDLE.bat. But get something working first. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne Watson
. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet My suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne Watson
with that either - but you need to recognize that it is NOT the default setting, and plan accordingly. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-15 Thread Wayne Watson
. If not, I'm going to declare it dead. I think I'm done here with 2.5.2. I think it's time to move to 2.6 or 2.7. Now! On 11/15/2011 4:33 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: On 15/11/11 23:55, Wayne Watson wrote: I think we've exhausted ourselves. Time to ditch 2.5.2 and find a better version of Python to work

[Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread Wayne Watson
it in IDLE, I would get an error that said something like this: c:\Users\blah\...\junk.py is not a valid Win 32 app. (or idle.pyw) Comments? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread Wayne Watson
I do not see Python listed there. I see Word Pad, Winamp, Paint, ... I'm at CP/All CP Items/Default prgrms/Set Defaults On 11/14/2011 2:18 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread Wayne Watson
On 11/14/2011 4:04 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I do not see Python listed there. I see Word Pad, Winamp, Paint

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread Wayne Watson
at 4:08 PM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I had py 2.5.2 installed (Yes, I know it's old) on my Win 7 64-bit PC earlier this year, but it began to fail back in June. I tried a uninstall/install, but that got me nowhere

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread Wayne Watson
On 11/14/2011 6:17 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote: On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 11/14/2011 4:04 PM, Marc Tompkins wrote

Re: [Tutor] Trouble installing Python on Win7 (not a valid Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread Wayne Watson
Note that I did not install some libraries like numpy before uninstall/install. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Getting Idle to work in Win7

2011-07-28 Thread Wayne Watson
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 4:39 PM To: tutor@python.org Subject: Re: [Tutor] Getting Idle to work in Win7 Hi On 27 July 2011 22:07, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: It's been many

[Tutor] Getting Idle to work in Win7

2011-07-27 Thread Wayne Watson
, the same thing happens when I select IDLE. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet The physicist uses ordinary words

[Tutor] Moving from Python 2.5.4 to 2.5.2?

2010-08-16 Thread Wayne Watson
programs I've sent him. I'm presuming he did not put them under c:\Python. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet

Re: [Tutor] Moving from Python 2.5.4 to 2.5.2?

2010-08-16 Thread Wayne Watson
The question is would going back likely cause problems? I'm dealing with neophytes. He's messed up before. On 8/16/2010 8:58 AM, Luke Paireepinart wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: My partner got ahead of the game last year

Re: [Tutor] Moving from Python 2.5.4 to 2.5.2?

2010-08-16 Thread Wayne Watson
? There shouldn't be hardly any reason to force you all to maintain the exact same python version, especially if you're in the same sub-version (2.5) On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The question is would going back likely cause problems? I'm

Re: [Tutor] Moving from Python 2.5.4 to 2.5.2?

2010-08-16 Thread Wayne Watson
No question about that. For the record, I'm not going to ask him to change based on the answers here. On 8/16/2010 5:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:57:37 am Wayne Watson wrote: The question is would going back likely cause problems? I'm dealing with neophytes. He's

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
On Friday 06 August 2010, Wayne Watson wrote: Yes, porpoises was a (old) pun. Back in Feb. I raised a question related to Subject. I just wanted to know if Python code could be compiled in some sense. Robert Berman pitched in with some help. Although I was making progress, I put it off

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
like numpy and scipy. After that, he should be able to follow the instructions written by the sponsor. On 8/6/2010 2:18 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: On 8/6/2010 10:51 AM Wayne Watson said... Yes, porpoises was a (old) pun. Back in Feb. I raised a question related to Subject. I just wanted

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
?), and that may be where my partner went wrong. I'm pretty sure he jumped ahead of my versions despite my cautions. On 8/6/2010 5:18 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote programs w/o him stumbling. I send him a py program written using Windows Python 2.5. He has the same

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
such as matplotlib, numpy, and scipy. Then it has all sorts of other bells and whistles, as well. HTH, Wayne -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet

Re: [Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-07 Thread Wayne Watson
in the real world. Always test deployable code in a real, native execution environment - outside the development tool and outside the development folder structure too. Include the installation process (whether automated or manual) in your test. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop

[Tutor] Distributing Python Code for Commercial Porpoises?

2010-08-06 Thread Wayne Watson
not confident that using py2exe will solve this problem. Is there a Python tool that provides some thorough description of a Python installation? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time

[Tutor] Finding the version # of a module, and py module problem

2010-08-05 Thread Wayne Watson
. I need to find out his version numbers. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39 15' 7" N, 121 2' 32" W, 2700 feet "Republicans are

Re: [Tutor] Finding the version # of a module, and py module problem

2010-08-05 Thread Wayne Watson
I should have mentioned I use windows. import numpy numpy.__version__ It's now written in my Py book! ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Why this Difference in Importing NumPy 1.2 vs 1.4?

2010-03-26 Thread Wayne Watson
ages\scipy\stats\stats.py", line 191, in module import scipy.special as special File "C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\scipy\special\__init__.py", line 22, in module from numpy.testing import NumpyTest ImportError: cannot import name NumpyTest Comments? -- Wayne Watso

[Tutor] Press Enter to quit. Silently maybe.

2010-03-23 Thread Wayne Watson
') sys.exit() -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet Stop the illegal killing of dolphins and porpoises

Re: [Tutor] Press Enter to quit. Silently maybe.

2010-03-23 Thread Wayne Watson
there crept into the finish here. Yes, no need to fiddle with the finish. Just let it reach the end. On 3/23/2010 3:08 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:47:40 am Wayne Watson wrote: I use this code to quit a completed program. What on earth for? If the program

Re: [Tutor] Understanding (Complex) Modules

2010-03-19 Thread Wayne Watson
To: tutor@python.org Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 6:24:15 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] Understanding (Complex) Modules On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:24:35 pm Wayne Watson wrote: First a little preamble before my questions. Most of my work in Python has required modifying a program that uses modules that were

[Tutor] Understanding (Complex) Modules

2010-03-03 Thread Wayne Watson
of MPL, and probably some of the other modules mentioned above have not provided a lot of insight. Is there some relationship between modules and objects that I'm not seeing that could be of value? -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015

[Tutor] Why is the max size so low in this mail list?

2010-03-01 Thread Wayne Watson
See Subject. 40K here, but other Python lists allow for larger (total) sizes. -- Wayne Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA) (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time) Obz Site: 39° 15' 7 N, 121° 2' 32 W, 2700 feet

Re: [Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python and Win7

2010-02-27 Thread Wayne Watson
in folder1 (one). I do not believe I've experienced this sort of linkage in any WinOS before. I believed I confirmed that the same behavior occurs using cmd prompt. I'll now head for Alan's reply. On 2/23/2010 5:35 PM, Dave Angel wrote: Wayne Watson wrote: A few days ago I posted a message titled

Re: [Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python and Win7

2010-02-27 Thread Wayne Watson
I just referenced Alan to my response to you, and included this statement. Once you've both read the first reply to you and this, then you should both be in synch with where I'm at. To Alan=== Oh, I also changed the name of folder1 in the reply to Dave to see what

Re: [Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python and Win7

2010-02-27 Thread Wayne Watson
See below. On 2/27/2010 10:58 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 05:30:49 am Wayne Watson wrote: Ok, I'm back after a three day trip. You are correct about the use of pronouns and a few misplaced words. I should have reread what I wrote. I had described this in better detail

Re: [Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python andWin7

2010-02-27 Thread Wayne Watson
(Apparently, I did not send this about 6 hours ago. Anyway, here it is.) Let's start from the response I just made to Dave Angel minutes ago, or, at least very recently. I think I wrote a bit more accurately about matters. We'll continue as appropriate from that point. Let me answer some of

Re: [Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python and Win7

2010-02-27 Thread Wayne Watson
On 2/27/2010 5:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: Hello Wayne, I sympathise with your problem, but please understand you are not making it easy for us when you give us incoherent information. I hope the coherency has improved recently. :-) I think if you saw the cramped quarters I'm in that

Re: [Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python and Win7

2010-02-27 Thread Wayne Watson
Hang in there. My story about HP tech support took me a bit off course. I think I can provide a meaningful description from the stand point of the properties of each py file. I want to look at this carefully. -- There is nothing so annoying as to have two people

[Tutor] Verifying My Troublesome Linkage Claim between Python and Win7

2010-02-23 Thread Wayne Watson
A few days ago I posted a message titled Two Card Monty. The problem I mentioned looks legitimate, and remains puzzling. I've probed this in a newsgroup, and no one has an explanation that fits. My claim is that if one creates a program in a folder that reads a file in the folder it and then

Re: [Tutor] Two Card Monty with File Operations--Reading from Wrong Folder (W7?) !!!

2010-02-22 Thread Wayne Watson
to the wrong file. Good grief. What has Win7 brought? On 2/21/2010 7:29 PM, Wayne Watson wrote: ... The question is why does Report see the folder in the wrong folder? Although I think I've verified matters, I could be off. Is there a way to ensure I'm really getting to the right folder

[Tutor] Two Card Monty with File Operations--Reading from Wrong Folder (W7?)

2010-02-21 Thread Wayne Watson
I have a program called TrackStudy.py and another called ReportTool.py Track runs above an Events folder that contains txt files that it examines.Report runs in an Events folder on the same txt files. Neither is operated when the other is operating. Both only read the same files. I've

Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-20 Thread Wayne Watson
: Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote File matplotlib\__init__.pyc, line 478, in _get_data_path RuntimeError: Could not find the matplotlib data files ---What is this? C:\Users\Wayne\Sandia_Meteors\Sentinel_Development\Learn_Python\Py2exe_Test\dist

Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-20 Thread Wayne Watson
This apparently not quite as easy as the py2exe suggests when MPL is involved. See http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/MatPlotLib. It looks like I have some reading and work to do. On 2/20/2010 3:21 AM, Wayne Watson wrote: Yes, I sent a message there last night. No responses yet. Strangely I

Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-20 Thread Wayne Watson
hadn't noticed it last night, since it got stuck in my server as spam. On 2/20/2010 3:21 AM, Wayne Watson wrote: Yes, I sent a message there last night. No responses yet. Strangely I don't see it posted yet. That was six hours ago. Well, I finish off my night's sleep in about 4 hours maybe

[Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
I've successfully compiled several small python programs on Win XP into executables using py2exe. A program goes from a name like snowball.py to snowball. A dir in the command prompt window finds snowball.py but not snowball. If I type in snowball, it executes. What's up with that? --

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
and dist. Forget about the build directory. If you look in the dist directory you will find the exe file and all supporting files. If you look back to an earlier email you will see a more detailed explanation I sent you. Robert Berman -Original Message- From: Wayne Watson

Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
The answer now appears in Wrestling with It's in a dist folder that py2exe produces. See Robert Berman post today, 2/19 early in morning. 5:34 am here. On 2/19/2010 7:00 AM, Wayne Watson wrote: I've successfully compiled several small python programs on Win XP into executables using

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
at all on any of this. I'm glad I finally worked my way to this facility. It should help a good deal on the distribution of my demos to non-python friends, and fellow project workers at far flung places from here. On 2/19/2010 11:44 AM, Alan Gauld wrote: Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
Things were not quite what the seem. I just tried to run a program that was not converted, and left off py. It worked. So maybe the only way to execute the compiled code is to to to dist? -- There is nothing so annoying as to have two people talking when you're busy

Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
' is not clicked. Once that is done, all your file extensions (all of them) will be seen and shown. Robert -Original Message- From: Wayne Watson [mailto:sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11 PM To: Robert Berman Subject: Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe

Re: [Tutor] The Disappearing Program (py2exe)

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Watson
OK, I'm completely on Win7. hello.exe works as expected by the tutorial. That file is in dist. I've now tried this program, pylab_scatter.py: #!/usr/bin/env python from pylab import * N = 30 x = 0.9*rand(N) y = 0.9*rand(N) area = pi*(10 * rand(N))**2 # 0 to 10 point radiuses

Re: [Tutor] Sounding Off, IDLE (Win7)

2010-02-18 Thread Wayne Watson
Nothing to do with Ctrl-G. Cmd Prompt not open. So if you have a syntax error, no bell rings? I don't want to disable all sounds. On 2/17/2010 2:48 AM, Michael M Mason wrote: Wayne Watson wrote on 16 February 2010 at 17:58:- In Win7 IDLE, when I type in something with a syntax problem

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-18 Thread Wayne Watson
+bermanrl=cfl.rr@python.org] On Behalf Of Wayne Watson Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:07 PM To: tutor@python.org Subject: Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5 I'm following the tutorial and ran into a snag. Here is the console output.( Can I do this from IDLE

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-18 Thread Wayne Watson
for a small matplotlib program for the moment. VBG Thanks very much. On 2/18/2010 4:30 PM, Wayne Watson wrote: It imported setup fine from the IDLE cmd prompt. Win Cmd prompt is fine to operate it. Just curious about IDLE. I looked in setup.py and don't see what the complaint is. It sure thinks

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-18 Thread Wayne Watson
There's a bit of an anomaly. I've compiled 3 small programs now, and in cmd prompt a Dir does not find the file. It finds the py file, but not the completed file. Nevertheless, if I type in the prefix, the desired program executes. On 2/18/2010 4:48 PM, Wayne Watson wrote: Got it. Fooled

[Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-17 Thread Wayne Watson
(This is the same msg as above, but I meant XP. I'm transitioning from XP to Win7, and am operating with two monitors and keyboards side by side. I thought I had used W7, but nope. Corrected wrestling it Subject.) I've finally decided to see if I could make an executable out of a py file. XP.

Re: [Tutor] Wrestling with the Py2exe Install, Win7[XP!], Py2.5

2010-02-17 Thread Wayne Watson
I'm following the tutorial and ran into a snag. Here is the console output.( Can I do this from IDLE?) C:\Sandia_Meteors\Sentinel_Development\Learn_Pythonc:\python25\python setup.py Traceback (most recent call last): File setup.py, line 2, in module import py2exe ImportError: No

Re: [Tutor] PyCon anyone?

2010-02-16 Thread Wayne Watson
Hi all, I'm going to PyCon this year for the first time (yeah!) and I would love to meet other regular contributors to the tutor list. Is anyone else going to be there? Any interest in a Meet the tutors Open Space or dinner? Kent ___ Tutor maillist

Re: [Tutor] PyCon anyone?

2010-02-16 Thread Wayne Watson
On 2/16/2010 7:42 AM, Kent Johnson wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all, I'm going to PyCon this year for the first time (yeah!) and I would love to meet other regular contributors to the tutor list. Is anyone else going

[Tutor] Sounding Off, IDLE (Win7)

2010-02-16 Thread Wayne Watson
In Win7 IDLE, when I type in something with a syntax problem, a bell rings. How do I stop that? I've looked at Control Panel Sounds, but don't see anything of apparent use. -- Crime is way down. War is declining. And that's far from the good news. -- Steven Pinker (and other sources) Why is

Re: [Tutor] A Stuborn Tab Problem in IDLE

2010-02-15 Thread Wayne Watson
I've found there's quite a bit of discrepancy in top vs bottom posting. It's hardly worth thinking about. I seem to navigate through top, bottom or mixed. The real problem, IMHO, is very long posts from various people. Marty Ah ha! Sorry for the noise, I should really read the whole message

[Tutor] A Stuborn Tab Problem in IDLE

2010-02-14 Thread Wayne Watson
When I use F5 to execute a py program in IDLE, Win7, I get a tab error on an indented else. I've selected all and untabifed with 4 spaces several times, and get the same problem. I've tried re-typing the line with zero results. What next? I had been modifying the program repeatedly over

Re: [Tutor] A Stuborn Tab Problem in IDLE

2010-02-14 Thread Wayne Watson
I'm not sure it's postable or attachable for this mail list. I'll give it a try. Attachments do work with other lists. On 2/14/2010 2:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 09:19:35 am Wayne Watson wrote: When I use F5 to execute a py program in IDLE, Win7, I get a tab error

Re: [Tutor] A Stuborn Tab Problem in IDLE

2010-02-14 Thread Wayne Watson
back. Maybe stuffing it in a txt file with NotePad might reveal something. On 2/14/2010 5:05 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote When I use F5 to execute a py program in IDLE, Win7, I get a tab error on an indented else. What happens if you execute from

Re: [Tutor] A Stuborn Tab Problem in IDLE

2010-02-14 Thread Wayne Watson
Well, command line was easy to get to. It's on the menu for python, but it gives me . How do I get to the folder with the py file? Can I switch to a c:\ type operation? Back to exploring. On 2/14/2010 5:05 PM, Alan Gauld wrote: Wayne Watson sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net wrote When I use

Re: [Tutor] A Stuborn Tab Problem in IDLE

2010-02-14 Thread Wayne Watson
in path last_pt = len(xy[:,0]) ax1.plot([xy[npts-1,0]],[xy[npts-1,1]],'rs') On 2/14/2010 6:18 PM, Wayne Watson wrote: Well, command line was easy to get to. It's on the menu for python, but it gives me . How do I get to the folder with the py file? Can I switch to a c:\ type

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