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Nearly a billion dollars awarded to the families of the victims. https://apnews.com/article/shootings-school-connecticut-conspiracy-alex-jones-3f579380515fdd6eb59f5bf0e3e1c08f On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 4:35 PM Kevin M. wrote: > Jury decides Jones must pay another $45.2 million in punitive damages

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Jury decides Jones must pay another $45.2 million in punitive damages… of course Texas being Texas, he’ll likely only pay a fraction of that. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/08/05/media/alex-jones-punitive-damages-sandy-hook/index.html Hoping this is the start of a trend, and the voting machine comp

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Jones ordered to pay $4 million, on top of the over $1 million in fines he was ordered to pay during the trial… punitive damages still to be decided upon https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/08/04/media/alex-jones-trial-sandy-hook-decision/index.html Apparently Jones is already claiming victory, that the

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After finally meeting with some of the parents, Jones has apparently dropped the hoax claim, but says that any judgment north of $2mil "will sink us"... https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/03/alex-jones-sandy-hook-attack-real-00049632 (link) B Kevin M, to moi, July 31st: > He’s already

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On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:52 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > He'll go into bankruptcy first... > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/30/business/alex-jones-infowars-bankruptcy.html > (link) >B > He’s already morally bankrupt, so it would be fitting if his

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He'll go into bankruptcy first... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/30/business/alex-jones-infowars-bankruptcy.html (link) B Steve Timko, to moi, Jan 1st 2020: > Alex Jones, Infowars ordered to pa Sandy Hook parents $100,000 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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Frankly, I ponder how anybody could live with Jones and NOT hit him, but I suppose tastes vary On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 2:31 PM Steve Timko wrote: > Alex Jones' wife was arrested on domestic violence charge. Alex blames it > on medication imbalance. > > > https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/alex-

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Alex Jones' wife was arrested on domestic violence charge. Alex blames it on medication imbalance. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/alex-jones-wife-arrested-domestic-violence-charge-81941373 On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:45 AM Kevin M. wrote: > After refusing to comply with multiple requests to

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After refusing to comply with multiple requests to produce discovery, Alex Jones and InfoWars were found guilty on all counts and the process has now proceeded to determining the dollar amounts to be paid to families of the Sandy Hook victims https://apnews.com/article/business-alex-jones-school-s

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Judge rules Alex Jones is in default. Two Sandy Hook parents win their defamation case as Jones refused to comply with court instructions to turn over discovery and just generally follow basic trial rules. A jury will be empaneled to determine how much money the parents will be rewarded. https://w

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Some good news that got lost among all this dismal coronavirus news: Alex Jones got arrested for DUI. LINK On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 6:42 AM Steve Timko wrote: > Alex Jones, Infowa

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Alex Jones, Infowars ordered to pa Sandy Hook parents $100,000 https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/31/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook-texas/index.html On Thu, May 2, 2019, 11:23 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Steve Timko, to Kevin, March 30th: >> >> Alex Jones' deposi

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Steve Timko, to Kevin, March 30th: > > Alex Jones' depositions are online. He doesn't seem to know what he > believes. > > LINK > > > >> Zuckerberg axes Jones, Louie F

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Alex Jones' depositions are online. He doesn't seem to know what he believes. LINK On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 6:03 PM Kevin M. wrote: > A judge just ruled against Alex J

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A judge just ruled against Alex Jones and InfoWars. The Sandy Hook families suing them are to be given access to the financial records of the extremist organization. I’d like to see who is funding the sleezebag and look forward to seeing this trial progress. https://abcnews.go.com/US/families-sand

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PayPal is the latest platform to ditch Alex Jones, Infowars SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - You won't be able use PayPal anymore to buy fluoride-free toothpaste or a bottle of The Real Red Pill Plus from right-wing conspiracy promulgator Alex Jones. The digital payments company is the latest platform to ditch

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Apple bans the Infowars app from the App Store https://www.cnet.com/news/alex-jones-infowars-banned-from-apple-app-store-permanently/ On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 3:44 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > David Bruggeman, to Doug Eastick et al, Thurs. (9/06): >> >> T

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David Bruggeman, to Doug Eastick et al, Thurs. (9/06): > > This reminded me that the Oscar-nominated "The Big Sick" was available on > Pornhub for a time, according to co-writer/star Kumail Nanjiani. > > https://www.newsweek.com/kumail-nanjiani-big-sick-pornhub-759264 > > This was late last year,

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A funny Alex Jones update of where he is available on the internet. Check out @JAdomian’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/JAdomian/status/1038324839856013312?s=09 On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 4:01 PM Steve Timko wrote: > Some Twitter content pulled after coverage by CNN. > > LINK >

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Some Twitter content pulled after coverage by CNN. LINK On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 10:53 PM Steve Timko wrote: > They don't have to provide the audience. Merely a chance to reach them. >

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They don't have to provide the audience. Merely a chance to reach them. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:33 PM Kevin M. wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:47 PM Steve Timko wrote: > >> Free speech pretty much requires an audience. >> > > Perhaps. But there is no legal guarantee which forces a compan

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So we have increased tension between the government's reluctance to meddle in what could reasonably construed as tech company monopolies and the political/cultural reluctance to set a firm line beyond which the consequences of exercising free speech are such that said speech should be restricte

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This reminded me that the Oscar-nominated "The Big Sick" was available on Pornhub for a time, according to co-writer/star Kumail Nanjiani. https://www.newsweek.com/kumail-nanjiani-big-sick-pornhub-759264 This was late last year, so it may no longer be there.  (FWIW, Nanjiani said during a Conan i

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:47 PM Steve Timko wrote: > Free speech pretty much requires an audience. > Perhaps. But there is no legal guarantee which forces a company to provide such an audience It’s not really free speech if the only place you can say it is, say, in > front of the Jehovah’s Witne

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Free speech pretty much requires an audience. It’s not really free speech if the only place you can say it is, say, in front of the Jehovah’s Witness Hall. So Alex Jones can proselytize as much as he wants from his website, but as Adam noted, “to a certain generation, access to YouTube or Facebook

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side story. honest I stumbled across the story because I like music festivals and EDM (electronic dance music).. I probably saw it on reddit /r/Coachella or something. There is a DJ that got tired of youtube taking down his 60 minutes videos of his sets. youtube (or someone) claimed

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:22 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > The interesting things is that these companies tend to be quite at good at > keeping some things off their sites - notably porn. Sure they also end up > banning Renaissance paintings, iconic photographs from the Vietnam war, and > mothers feeding

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into several different >> threads, and I missed the majority of well thought out back-and-forth that >> many of you have posted in the last 24 hours. If I'd read those first, my >> response would've been a lot more reasoned and nuanced, and a lot less >> simplistic a

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gt; > My bad. > > > Doug Fields > > Tampa, FL > -- > *From:* Doug Fields > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:11:13 AM > *To:* TV or Not TV > *Subject:* Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended > across digital media

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a lot less simplistic and flippant. My bad. Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: Doug Fields Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:11:13 AM To: TV or Not TV Subject: Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media Once *again*, for the people w

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st you for some explicitly prohibited reason. Doug Fields Tampa, FL From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com on behalf of Steve Timko Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 6:25:03 PM To: TV or Not TV Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across di

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I'm more aligned with Kevin on this topic and don't have much more to add than this article that summarizes my exposure to the cases of my past 30 years. Https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.1036731 The grey sidebar summarizes my understanding. Once you add a TOS, the company can do more

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I too am hot and smoked out (literally coughing as I type this) from ongoing fire storms on my near horizon, but it seems you don’t need me to explain my point to you. You understand it, just disagree with it. As you say, the problem is the danger posed by how arbitrary these denial of access decis

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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:27 PM PGage wrote: > Right - so this is a very cogent and helpful analysis showing why this is > a high stakes discussion. I think you do not emphasize enough the role of > teaching consumers of this new media how to evaluate the quality and > credibility of a source tha

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Right - so this is a very cogent and helpful analysis showing why this is a high stakes discussion. I think you do not emphasize enough the role of teaching consumers of this new media how to evaluate the quality and credibility of a source than I think is warranted. When I was a kid there was a l

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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:50 PM PGage wrote: > Well, I think it pretty clearly is a free speech issue (though not, for > the obvious reason, a First Amendment issue). Labeling it thus does not > mean Facebook et al are in the wrong; free speech is not an absolute value, > and we accept limitations

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Well, I think it pretty clearly is a free speech issue (though not, for the obvious reason, a First Amendment issue). Labeling it thus does not mean Facebook et al are in the wrong; free speech is not an absolute value, and we accept limitations on it all the time. I think there is a good argument

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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 3:25 PM Steve Timko wrote: > If porn and stripping are free speech issues then Alex Jones is a free > speech issue. > Certain businesses allow porn and stripping; other businesses do not. Both are legally allowed to make that choice. Pretty sure stripping is not allowed at

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On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:25 PM Steve Timko wrote: > If porn and stripping are free speech issues then Alex Jones is a free > speech issue. > Alex Jones still has his website where anybody can stream his videos. This is not a free speech issue. -- You received this message because you are subsc

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If porn and stripping are free speech issues then Alex Jones is a free speech issue. ⁣Not sent from an iPhone​ On Aug 7, 2018, 1:27 PM, at 1:27 PM, "Kevin M." wrote: >I’m amazed at seemingly intelligent writers claiming this is a free >speech >issue. It’s a business decision. It turns out havi

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I’m amazed at seemingly intelligent writers claiming this is a free speech issue. It’s a business decision. It turns out having a guy in your establishment screaming threats and insults at children is bad for business. As others have said, if you ran a bookstore or managed an office and there was s

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I tuned in to Alex Jones' stream for a few minutes this morning. He said Apple's Tim Cook is leading the attack on him. Is that a dog whistle way of saying the gays are against him? He also said the Fox News owners owners won't let the Fox News hosts speak honestly about him getting yanked off Y

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Loved this Tweet. https://twitter.com/joshgondelman/status/1026629178484051971?s=19 On Mon, Aug 6, 2018, 5:45 PM 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV < tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 1:26:26 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote: >> >> Spotify, YouTube, Facebook, and iTun