I am out of the office until 28/04/2009.
I am visiting a Customer in Sweden. I have limited access to email and
phone.
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Hear hear. And now that this Microsoft-centric mentality has spread to
management, I am concerned that there will be serious consequences down
the road. I just heard that the US power grid control systems have been
hacked. Imagine if the US were invaded and the power grid was taken down
at
I guess the basic premise of your argument is that the PHB's are
listening to 90-day-wonder windows programmers, and they encouraged said
PHB's that they needed to replace the UV database.
I don't buy it.
Even PHB's don't go spending millions of dollars on SAP just because
their 25 year old
There can also be blame at the coalface as well - I know many pick guys
who really are dinosaurs and who bury their head in the sand if xml, web
services, web access etc are mentioned ...
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For the past twenty years we have been trying to get the multivalue
Vendors to advertise and market their products. They never have had the
inclination to do that for a variety of reasons.
Microsoft on the other hand has spent literally 100's of millions if not
billions on advertising. They
In Jerry's case, you have IT director that has spent 10-20 years in
windows world, he doesn't like UniVerse and is not open to learning its
capabilities and the good tools that are in the market for it. He went
to a IBM conference once and that was before I joined the company over 7
years ago.
It's yet another story that makes people who know and understand the
multivalue database model cringe. Often one of the reasons for migrating
seems to be due to decisions being made upstairs by people who have not
bothered to consult the people with the knowledge to inform of the
technical
I'd start with the basics. First check for the process to be running
(ps -ef | grep unirpc) and then for it to be listening on the port
(netstat -an | grep 31438). I deal mainly with Solaris so the commands
may be slightly different for linux but should be close.
- Josh
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What does the acronym PHB stand for?
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Maybe a U2 from IBM logo on Tiger Woods' golf cap would be helpful. :-)
Bill
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From: Glenn Sallis glenn.sal...@nl.flextronics.com
Sent: 4/20/2009 6:47 AM
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What does the acronym PHB stand for?
Ask any Dilbert fan! PHB is pointy-haired boss.
Norman Morgan nmor...@brake.com http://www.brake.com
Lottery: a tax on people who are
Pointy Haired Boss from Dilbert.
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster
What does the acronym PHB stand for?
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Dude, giyf.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-Haired_Boss
/Scott Ballinger
Pareto Corporation
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367f3b3911959c4da9991c00166f620c01b90...@euducex2.europe.ad.flextronics.
com, Glenn Sallis glenn.sal...@nl.flextronics.com writes
It's yet another story that makes people who know and understand the
multivalue database model cringe. Often one of the reasons for migrating
seems to be
Rex's point that PHB's would do an ROI first is absolutely the correct
thing to do before jumping into a major conversion ... the fact is they
don't always ... and it doesn't matter what platform.
Keep in mind this was another large software/hardware migration ... just
not Universe.
A few years
Even PHB's don't go spending millions of dollars on SAP just because
their 25 year old windows programmers don't think UV is productive.
Rex,
Based on the results, I have to wonder if the PHB selected SAP before any
kind of analysis was done and without the knowledge of how difficult
In our particular case the IS Manager, who was a Pick programmer retired.
Jerry Banker
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:21 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
I know that on my system (Fedora) there's a uv.rc script in /etc/init.d
that takes care of starting all the daemons. Can't recall, now, but I
think I copied it from /usr/ibm/uv/sample.
Bob Little
UniVerse Developer
Market America
Greensboro, NC
336-478-1694
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From:
I second that.
And don't forget those people who have been in the same company and the
same office for over 20 years and still reminisce about the 'good old
mainframe days'.
The first thing a new guy hears is, 'We don't like change here!'
Upgrading? Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
If you get
I worked for a company that bought another company to replace an
existing product strictly because it has a pretty interface by
management. The amazing thing was that they got several developers and
support personall together to go over the system and see how it compares
to ours (which was
From: Charles_Shaffer
Hear hear. And now that this Microsoft-centric
mentality has spread to management, I am concerned
that there will be serious consequences down the road. ...
2. It was Windows-based. (Bad idea #2)...
Charles Shaffer
Senior Analyst
NTN-Bower Corporation
I'm
If you bought UniData from an OEM/VAD as part of an embedded application
solution you need to speak to them - you bought a solution, not the
database. Otherwise if you email u...@us.ibm.com with your reasons for
requiring a re-authorisation then as long as your current version of UniData
is
A common disconnect is to think of UniData and UniVerse as databases - they
are not. MV databases are Application Servers with an integrated database.
At least ONE major U2 consumer was headed off this route when they found out
a migration would have left them with a database - but no
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From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-
us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony G
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 4:14 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster
[chop]
A Microsoft-centric metality
An IBM vendor went to a company I used to work for to try to get them to dump
their current Unidata database and switch to DB2, how much new and better it
was. One of the advantages he listed was IBM support.
So one guy in our IT department told him: You really don't know anything
about
OMG. That is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jacques G.
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 3:24 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UV to SAP migration
We have a Thomson Reuters logo on Mike Weir's cap - does that count??
Of course, I remember a story my old boss told me about a CEO he met at a golf
tournament. Apparently he was crowing about the new $25 million SAP system he
had just purchased. He had no idea what it would do for them, but it
Hello all,
This is an interesting subject. I remember reading several years ago that TI
(Texas Instruments) spent $50 million on SAP and gave up. SAP must be a bear to
implement but TI should have known better.
I have personal knowledge of several migrations/conversions that didn't go so
I heard that IBM bought Unidata and Universe to kill them off.
To their surprise many of us are refusing to let the U2 die.
Laurie
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From: Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [U2] UV to SAP migration disaster
To:
Really. From whom did you hear that?
Henry
Henry P. Unger
Hitech Systems, Inc.
http://www.hitech.com
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Laurie Blain
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:29 PM
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