I'm in my current job because I was willing to learn Python at work and on
my own dime. I took a beginner's course in Python at the University of
Washington because I didn't know much besides Prime Information, Henco's
Info, Structure/4, UniVerse, UniData and MITS. It was fun to learn Python
as
So your company hired you to write in Python with no work experience in Python?
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From: Louie Bergsagel louiebergsa...@gmail.com
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mv basic doesn't require an END to an IF either
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mv basic doesn't require an END to an IF either
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On 09/12/12 17:38, Wjhonson wrote:
For a single line.
I don't understand how an IF would know, for multiple lines, where it's
supposed to end.
With a semi colon? Horrible.
Computer languages should be written for humans to read, not machines.
Why don't you take the OP's advice and learn
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mv basic doesn't require an END to an IF either
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mv basic doesn't require an END to an IF either
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Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk
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Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 10:06 am
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since I often find myself working in mvBasic, Delphi, C#, javascript and
sometimes VB.NET at the same time
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From: Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk
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Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 10:06 am
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since I often find myself working in mvBasic, Delphi, C#, javascript and
sometimes VB.NET
Why are you responding?
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From: Martin Braid mbr...@epicor.com
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Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2012 11:04 am
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I don't have time for this Give us all
From: Martin Braid
I don't have time for this Give us all a break
I completely agree. This is nonsense.
And for historical accuracy and with some relevance to Pick, RPL did
and still does support one or multi-line IF just like every other
language on the planet.
So please, done
Those of use who *wish* to discuss it can continue, and those who don't want to
read it, should stop reading it and whining about being *forced* to read it ;)
You aren't.
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Those of us who *wish* to discuss it can continue, and those who don't
want to read it, should stop reading it and whining about being *forced*
to read it ;)
You aren't
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Sent: 09 December 2012 20:15
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Subject: Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
Those of us who *wish* to discuss it can continue, and those who don't
want to read it, should stop reading it and whining about being *forced
I do pretty well with a QWERTY keyboard, since I've been using one all
my life, starting with an old Underwood typewriter. I don't think I want
to try to learn the Dvorak keyboard at this point. I have enough
frustrations in my life. :-) Thanks for the tip, though.
Actually I did start
On 05/11/12 12:36, Charlie Noah wrote:
I do pretty well with a QWERTY keyboard, since I've been using one all
my life, starting with an old Underwood typewriter. I don't think I want
to try to learn the Dvorak keyboard at this point. I have enough
frustrations in my life. :-) Thanks for the
On 02/11/12 16:31, Charlie Noah wrote:
Left handed only, when I used to be right handed?
Try and get a left-handed-dvorjak keyboard layout. If you're on windows
you should be able to find a key mapping somewhere. It'll then take some
getting used to :-) but it should make life easier. I swear by
On 02/11/12 02:49, Bill Haskett wrote:
Kind of reminds me of my phone. It's gotten so many functions, that
barely work, now I can't even make a simple phone call. So I ditched my
Android and went to a pay-as-you-go simple phone. Now I can receive and
make calls without any problems. Who'd
November 2012 10:57
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
On 02/11/12 02:49, Bill Haskett wrote:
Kind of reminds me of my phone. It's gotten so many functions, that
barely work, now I can't even make a simple phone call. So I ditched
my
...
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*From:* 3xk547...@sneakemail.com
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*Date:* 11/1/2012 4:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
In the mainstream, it's generally understood that one
Come on Charlie, texting is cool and it is easy.
If I want to talk to my son in France for instance, I send him a text to
switch on his PC so we can use Skype to actually talk and vice versa.
The workshop sending me a text that my bike is ready to be collected -
now how cool is that?
You're an
Just old fashioned, I guess, Mecki. My phone has 12 buttons: 1-0, * and
#, and the necessary Send, End, Menu and cursor arrows. That's enough
buttons for me. I know what you mean about the eyes not being what they
used to be. I've been looking for an easier to read keyboard, maybe with
black
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing
Took me from 42 wpm to 78 wpm in two weeks.
I'm not kidding
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From: Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net
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Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 6:07 am
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Sent: Fri, Nov 2, 2012 6:07 am
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Just old fashioned, I guess, Mecki. My phone has 12 buttons: 1-0, * and
#, and the necessary Send, End, Menu and cursor arrows. That's enough
buttons for me. I know what you mean about
http://simply.engcen.com/JobAdCareerJet.asp?JobID=1253361
Really don't these people get actual... you know... specs?
What did they do skip some words?
Show me a single person in the world who has all of : Universe, Unidata, D3,
Jbase, Revelation AND RPL
and I will show you a liar
Clearly they
So me a person who wants* to work in RPL, and I'll show you desperate.
On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
http://simply.engcen.com/JobAdCareerJet.asp?JobID=1253361
Really don't these people get actual... you know... specs?
What did they do skip some words?
.
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From: Clifton Oliver w...@oliver.com
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Sent: Thu, Nov 1, 2012 8:50 am
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So me a person who wants* to work in RPL, and I'll show you desperate.
On Nov 1
I have all of the relevant experience. So what does that say about me?
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
Very experienced U2 programming staff
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I have experience with Universe, Unidata, D3, Jbase, Revelation and RPL
(which was Microdata's very proc-like language). Actually, I have a few
more, too. Gonna call me a liar, Will? :-)
Charlie
Tiny Bear's Wild Bird Store
Home of Safety Net Shipping
http://www.TinyBearWildBirdStore.com
Toll
?
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From: Brian Leach br...@brianleach.co.uk
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Sent: Thu, Nov 1, 2012 10:02 am
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Show me a single person in the world who has all of : Universe, Unidata
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: November-01-12 10:06 AM
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Usually if your experience is more than five
Leach
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 12:02 PM
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Show me a single person in the world who has all of : Universe, Unidata,
D3, Jbase, Revelation AND RPL and I will show you a liar
Better keep my mouth shut
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HA! I had to go look up SMILE for GIRLS -- what a GREAT
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 12:02 PM
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Show me a single person in the world who has all of : Universe, Unidata
To: U2 Users List
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So what does SMILE stand for ?
Barry Rogen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
PNY Technologies, Inc.
(973) 560-5327
bro...@pny.com
Subject: Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
So what does SMILE stand for ?
Barry Rogen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
PNY Technologies, Inc.
(973) 560-5327
bro...@pny.com
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:08 PM
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System Marketing Inc. Language Extender for Generalized (Global?) Information
Retrieval
Not sure where to jump in on this thread so I'll start at the top.
First, like Doug Averch, Charlie Noah, Brian Leach, and others here, I
actually do have experience with all of the technologies AND
applications defined. So once again your commentary has over-reached
your limited understanding
I did a lot of RPL coding in the 80s. I remember when I left that job
telling them that I would rather slide down a razor blade into a vat of
alcohol than write one more line of RPL code. But that's just my opinion.
Charles Shaffer
Senior Analyst
NTN-Bower Corporation
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Robert Houben robert.hou...@fwic.net wrote:
I could pretend to do all of these, but frankly, I've never actually written
production RPL code. I've also not written anything in about 2 years in
Revelation and that was for Revelation G (really old) so I'm not
A good CEO knows the first rule of employing. First look at attitude, then
capability and last experience. When you write a resume, don't list
experience, list your capability to pick up languages, ability to adapt and
ability to understand the business. It is also worth looking at how to
...@dacono.com.au
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Sent: Thu, Nov 1, 2012 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
A good CEO knows the first rule of employing. First look at attitude, then
capability and last experience. When you write a resume
hmm and there was I thinking it was tiime for RPL.NET.
All it would need is a tortuously non obvious syntax for property and method
setting and class instantiation and it would be job done..
just need another buffer type for handles..
C instantiate my form and return handle
IS ^1 MyForm ELSE
I didn't say it was easy, I am saying if you want to increase your opportunity
change the dynamics. You can curse and disparate the selection until the cows
come home and it won't change a thing, you have to change the way you get the
job interview.
Regards
David Jordan
Where's my pitchfork?
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hmm and there was I thinking it was tiime
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:23 PM, David Jordan da...@dacono.com.au wrote:
you have to change the way you get the job interview.
Only works if there are jobs available.
In Portland, the long list of what people are looking for in skills
when hiring does not include Pick (or other varieties). And
In the mainstream, it's generally understood that one must be in a
constant learning cycle, or skills get outdated in a matter of 6-18
months. So .NET people need to understand the difference between
WebForms and MVC, and adapt to generics, lambdas, and dynamic types.
Java people need to adjust to
:25 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
In the mainstream, it's generally understood that one must be in a
constant learning cycle, or skills get outdated in a matter of 6-18
months. So .NET people need to understand the difference between
WebForms and MVC
:* 11/1/2012 4:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Another job ad written by people who have no clue
In the mainstream, it's generally understood that one must be in a
constant learning cycle, or skills get outdated in a matter of 6-18
months. So .NET people need to understand the difference between
WebForms
TonyG wrote:
*Profile your skills as a problem solver who can get qualified people to
write code, rather than competing with a million people who can write code
but can't solve real world business problems. Sell your understanding of
business rules, because this is an area where you excel
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